Tuur was a geesi the war between the ahlu baits in africa was also caused by resources the clan in berbera claiming the port, the sultans of sl claiming the airport. It was not about the case of independence we all agreed on independence, but cigaals administration didnt start fairly. Althought it was fixed later tuur will be remembered for defeating the siad bare govt under his reign that happened he had the hardest reign a country destroyed no roads no schools ministeries broken people. He had to fix that there was division among snm calancas vs the rest but he kept snm united for as long as he could. He held the borama conference. So i have to say tuur did well in his time of leadership may allah bless his soul and may allah bles cigaals soul to

^^ Its just formal of expressing themselves read that they support the dialogue between Somalia and Somaliland, at the same time support a peaceful strong united Somalia, the latter can mean all kind of things but for now its appeasing both sides. They are basically saying we support the talks but we also support the Unity of Somalia in international diplomatic words its appeasing both sides. They cannot say we support the quest for statehood of Somaliland because that will be inappropriate at the moment. Nor can they say we support the territorial integrity of Somalia with Somaliland included. The United states made it clea that the recognition of Somaliland should go through the channels of the African union. The Bush administration Dr Frazer answered: Yes, the President of Somaliland did come to Washington and I did go to Somaliland. Somaliland has done a lot of good things. They have a democratic system. They had elections, and they have elections coming. We support the democratic process there. We also have mutual interests in combating terrorism. When it comes to recognition, we were hoping that the African Union would make a definitive statement on this, but unfortunately, the African Union has not made a definitive statement and that has delayed our taking of a position on this matter. One of the things we are considering now is to have some sort of diplomatic representation or office in Somaliland, but I am not sure whether we would be able to do it in the remaining six months of our administration. "I had the opportunity to meet with representatives of Somaliland government. I also met with President Yusuf. On Somaliland, the US would follow the lead taken by the AU. We would encourage dialogue between them but I said we would take the lead by AU.

Indeed che , i mean if it is something minor no need to make drama just add it the brits wont mind it.

Interesting so faroole wanted to add something , what was it he wanted to add ?

Che -Guevara;944464 wrote: Who will pay their salaries? Walaalaheen beesha calaamka adeero John kerry ayaa kiish lacag ah soo diraya.

^ Autonomous states of Somalia thats the future own army own security forces own flags own financial institutionS own navy forces own parliament own constitution. They might share the same name for the outside worlds and ask aid using the Somalia name and even use the same flag on some occasions. And share the same parliament, if Jubbaland manages to built its self the same way as Puntland did than that is the end of a modern Somali state. What we have today in Somalia is not federal states, hassan sheikh does not control Puntland, but Puntland cooperates with the SFG.

how far are these people away from the border of Somaliland.

This is wonderful:D

malistar2012;944407 wrote: No one has time for Farol demands we know what he wants , his desire and nature. The president pleaded with them as a Somalinimo lets move on , they stuck with tribalism hatred , They can see man from Xamar as a president . President hasan should learn From Somaliland keep the pirates isolated , while somaliland still rules LA and are 30 km from Garowe ... Farole is still beating his chess ,,,,,, :D Malistar you are learning how to deal with the defeated lot

Xamar is no longer the old Xamar it now belongs to one tribe , this is the reality even tarzan is trying to create an image since tribal identity of homeland exists nothing will change. haa dhakhleyso.

^ Jacpher where did i pray for civil war , i call for peace , by the way i am not against jubbaland state formation nor am i for it , i only discuss what the govt of Somalia is doing and how it views the Jubbaland conference.

^^ Jawaari is touring Turkey

Shirki gooni isutaaga Somaliland was in 1991 burco it was declared out loud every one was there the 9 garaads of the garaad clan including cali khalif galaydh. But Cali was in the borama conference the borame conference was about state governmental building what was he doing there, or is cali saying i ran for vp but not for an independent state a state with in Somalia. Its not bad to change your stance on the union or independence but just be honest with it.

Meyeen dadki laha meesha wala isku afgartay oo wala heshiiyey imisaan laha xaajiga dhegeysta, oo wax ka maqla where is my little brother Che, ama jin la shaqeyihi Nuune war meesha casho macaan wa jirta laakin waxba la isku ma afgaran.

War deg Deg Ah—Puntland iyo Dowlada Federaalka oo kala boodey, Xasan Sheikh oo xanaaq kaga dhoofey Garowe Garowe–29 April,2013–Pi– Shirar Xasasi ah oo maanta Puntland iyo Dowlada Federaalka uga socdey Guriga Madaxtooyada Puntland ayaa natiijo la’aan kusoo dhamaadey ka dib markii labada dhinac ay dhowr qodob isku mariwaayeen, Madaxweyne Xasan Sheikh isagoo xanaaqsan ayuu Garowe ka dhoofey goor dhaweyd. Kulamada Xasaasiga ah oo saacado ka hor kusoo idlaadey guul darada ayaa labada dhinac isku mariwaayeen Qodobo dhowra oo ay kamid yihiin. 1- Arimaha Jubooyinka oo Puntland soo jeedisey in uu Madaxweynuhu taageero sharuud la’aan maadaamada ay Dastuuri tahay. 2- Qodobo Datuurka Federaalka ah oo la ogaadey in wax laga badalay ama la damacsan yahay in wax laga badalo oo Puntland ku tilmaantey Khiyaano qaran, iyo in deg deg wax looga qabto, Dowlada Federaalku way dafirtey eedeyntaas lakiin hadana gadaal ayay iska badaleen oo cadeeyeen iney wax ka jiraan warkaas. 3- Shirka London oo la isku fahmi waayey ajandayaasha lala tagayo, qolaba waxbay ku! lskiin Xasan Sheikh wuxuu ku adkeystey ajandaha uu isagu wato. Qodobadaan oo ah kuwo Howlwadeenada Puntlandi si hoose u heleen waa kuwa lagu kala boodey inkastoo ay dhici karto in qodobo kale jiraa. Shirkii u dambeeyey ee Galabta dhexmaray Puntland iyo DF waa lagu kala kacay iyadoo dhinaca Federaalka xanaaq ka muuqdo. Wafdigii Madaxweynaha booqashadoodii saas bay kusoo dhamaatey waxayna hada kusii jeedaan Muqdisho oo ay u duuleen. Faahfaahin buuxda goor dhow ayaan idiin soo gudbineynaa.

The things with professor cali is he said he took part of the burco conference Not to declare somaliland but to make peace fair enough. But he aslo said he was at the borama conference What was he doing in the borama conference. Because the borama conference was about forming a modern somaliland government post snm interim govt.. Its not bad to change ur stance u didnt commit anything haraam sifir did to. But just be honest about. That said i like the professore wa nin dantisa yaqaan He wanted to run for vp in 1993 but he lost to mujahid abdiraxmaan aw cali of awdal He got a better deal seven years later in cabdiqasbayas tng.

Guys dont get me wrong cashaadu wey macaantahay but do u guys really believe they are on one line now. Its just a trip to show they are on one line for the london conference. Forget about secessionist unionist globalist humanist, waxyaalahaso dhan meel ino dhiga.. Where do they stand on federalism on jubbaland and all of that.after the nice casho

Classified;944198 wrote: How do you like the Presidential compound? That looks goood

I never said it did not take place wala wada casheyey iyo waxyaalahaas waa iska sheeko baralay. Madaxweynuhu wali qaab dhismeedka federaalku sidu yahay iyo sidu faroole u arku wa kaaf iyo kala dheeri. Maxa dagaal keeney where did i mention dagaal. Siyaasada la isku diidanyahay. Any way wa iska shimbiroy heesa hees wanaagsan heesa, trust me on this, somalida siyaasimtooda sidayu shaqeyaan aqaana.

Its all just for the show

The garaad clan is claimed by the pirates ut the garaad clan doesnt want anything to do with the pirate enclave

SOO MAAL;944123 wrote: Amina Mohamed's family hail from Taleex and Xudun towns of Khatumo State of Somalia. I don't understand why some secessionist minded individuals are claiming her family hail from Somaliland. She is from xudun north sool originally which is somaliland that makes her a somalilander,,she is,a pure ethnic somalilander.

Silly childish people

Ace of Spadez;943990 wrote: Axmed Ismaciil Samatar is singing a different tune lately. Listen to the below videos. He is a changed man. http://www.livestream.com/debateforsomalia/video?clipId=pla_13ab8c26-b56c-4acd-8163-22922148fdb7 He sure is a changed man look how he described the union between the 2 states in 1960 he just schooled the Koonfurian journalist about the history of SL and how the Somaliland people lay the foundation of the Union. When the journalists said Somalia has a president and the rest should just follow. In addition he talked about what the people of Somaliland achieved ,that if a union has to come than surely the Koonfurians need to come with something much better for Somalilanders to consider a Union. He also said that many koonfurians told him that Somalilanders cannot lead Somalia. It was a real eye opener for him when he visited Somalia i have to say he is one of the most honest unionist alive today. I think it will all be clear and he will abandon the Koonfurians when he visits Somaliland. And he will know there is no place like home Hargeysa awaits you Professor tafadal.

Che -Guevara;943893 wrote: Waranle. Do you realize how humilitating this is for all Somalis? Che national humiliation or clan Humiliation or ethnic Humiliation, Somalis have a problem with all of those 3