SomaliPhilosopher;948097 wrote: Saalax, you make me cringe. Why don't you stop surrounding yourselves with such 'cannibals' and leave this site and instead join www.somalilandonline.com/community I think the day Koonfurians stop claiming Somaliland altogether in Somalia and abroad and in their constitution , is the day no Somalilander will ever ever visit this site again.

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^^ Because those who support Ethiopia and the dds admin in jigjiga and the last 2 years the support for Ethiopia with in those communities increased. Eventhough he also empowered their tribe in the Somali region, remember the TPLF supported Cabdilahi Yusuf , and ofcourse ileey is seen as a hero by many in Somali galbeed and diaspora.

^^ He says Qaranimada Somaliland mala hargeysu u socda

Safferz;948068 wrote: Yes, why do you ask? lol Cant tell you:D

^^ Are those your fingers?

I also don't like a lot of the ideological components of "Somaliland nationalism," like the insulting language directed towards fellow Somalis in the south as well This goes both ways the koonfurians deny Somaliland and its right to exist thus they get a reaction, action reaction its not based on Somaliland nationalism to dislike the koonfurians , when the future relations between Somalia and Somaliland become normal there is no need for tensions. Somaliland has no problem with other speaking Somali people like Djibouti Somali galbeed region, Kenya's north eastern Somali province. All is well its just koonfurians and their dislike for Somaliland.

I like safferz she is a smart young lady although i disagree with her on her love for Oromos and the words she picks when she is discussing Somaliland related issues. But woman are always treated well by the xaaji

True it is not illogical but it is not legal , since Khaatumo ( as an entity or a federal Somali state) itself for a reason or another can neither negotiate with Somaliland nor liberate it's territory militarily, the federal government has to deal with the reality on the ground as the underdog of the status quo, yes exactly that is right Johnny, hassan and Siilanyo agreed in the previous talks that the Somaliland government is the sole representative of the people of Somaliland the state that united with Somalia on first of July.They have agreed that the 2 talks are always 2 sides Somalia on one side Somaliland on the other. They just haven't agreed on their future relations and what kind of relationship they will have. Khatumo on the other hand is not a state under Somalia they might call themselves that but they are not state under Somalia. Nor does the government of hassan sheikh recognize them as a state or a movement or anything else.

Saalax;948044 wrote: Pictures or no proof . She was probably visiting Somaliland carrying a Kenyan or Ethiopian passport and working for some of these governments yes foreigners are treated very well in Somaliland. Farax macalin got the same treatment when he visited Somaliland wa caadi.

Wadani;948032 wrote: Bro, y u surprised. She's not SNM dee, even though her family is reer Hargaysa. Many people were born in hargeysa doesn't make them hargaysaawis, to name a few Sangub from dhagaxbuur, Yasmin allas the writer from gedo. Our stoic from isiolo from Kenya has more claim to hargeysa since he traces his lineage back to the Sultanate lineage of Sultan Farax of Ceelka Herer the original hargeysa.

Alpha Blondy;948029 wrote: ^ the NORTH? ? :mad: Because she is from the south Alpha they the Koonfurians are opposed to Somaliland when will you get that , never trust them even those that try to act nice. Always treat them with suspicion i know the Koonfurians very well. Because what they say they dont mean it.

Who is trolling? are you saying the Somali speaking people share the same history or share the same nationality or even share the same ancestry i doubt it very much unless you want to bring proof. The Somali identity is a lose identity of various tribes of various origins who came from different parts of the world and regions. Any one can be Somali just master the Somali language and you can be a Somali a rendile if he learns the Somali language marries from a Somali is a Muslim can be incorporated in one the so called tribes of Somalia and can be a Somali.Somali identity is similar like the Arab identity you have berbers assimilated with arab claiming to be an Arab a dark blue Sudanese claiming to be an Arab to the Assyrian Syrian claiming to be an Arab. But its a lose identity and Arabism spread around the middle east into Africa during the rise of islam. Similar like Soomaals they were different people of different origins but islam united them and they started closely defending themselves from other aggressors because they shared the same faith and developed a common language this happened after the death of our beloved Prophet Muhammad may peace be upon him and the rashidun took over the islamic caliphate.

Safferz;948008 wrote: ... which is mythology, and a way of distancing yourself from your indigeneity to the Horn of Africa and relationship to other Somalis. Ancestry and the genealogy of the people Somaliland is well noted no one is distancing them selves from any one but that is the identity of the people of SL, and the people of Somaliland take their identity and ancestry very serious. Relationship with other Somalis is strictly based on the language and some cultural similarities but its not based on ancestry or history or nationality.

There is it is those people from Somaliland who trace their lineage back to hashimite origin, particularly through the lineage of the holy man buried in Mait and Yusuf al Baqdaadi and his sons Cumar walashma maternally and paternally on both sides.

^^ Karti la'aan tamar la'aan Maskax la'aan, iyo xaflad jacayl Kuwan wax weyn haka so qaadin Hadhow bay heesti ku dhufanayaan beerkey ada ku weyn markasay kala dareerayaan. Waligood xabad ma ridin wa sidi slaan leh maanto dhan waan foolanaya waan foolanaya , hadana waxba ma dhasho

Saalax;947968 wrote: Good points. But Gariisa isn't really developed as compared to say the Luo headquarters of Kisumu, or coastal groups land of Mombasa or Kikuyu's Eldoret. He feels like a 4th rate citizen hence the attempt to escape from Kenya. They should work hard to make a different and develop the NFD region and become full fledged kenyans and dont look back to Somalia. Most of them are doing that though now and days and are showing no mercy to Somalia and are supporting the Kenyan troops in Somalia. Many are part of the kenyan army. The Kenyans should fight for equality justice although the Somalis are outnumbered by Kikuyu luos and Luhyas and other tribes. Atleast their country is making progress.

After independence by lowell barrington, The Hizbullah and SNS were established 2 years after Sheikh bashiirs death in burco, it was actually the other way around the SNL and USP delegations were lobbying for Somali galbeed but it failed. If you look at Africa though the vast majority of African nations were given around the same time.

This is very entertaining i like it allot atleast they are not partying in international airports

Saalax;947953 wrote: Aren't you Kenyan? You want to be a Somali so bad ya Haatu. I don't think he wants to be Somali , why cant he be a Kenyan, Kenya is more productive has much better economy than Somalia its a economic power house in the region. Why on earth would he want to be from Somalia makes no sense. He should be glad that he is from a prosperous proud African nation. Why would he want to be part of the most failed state in the world i believe brother haatu will embrace his Kenyannimo very soon and he should not look back. He should uphold the Somali identity as being part of Kenya.

Coofle;947944 wrote: Hadaa ma cid kalu ayay u jeedaanba....Laakiin dee waa Muwaadiniin Soomaaliyeed yayna ahaanin dad soomaaliyeed ...This is how Discrimination starts. Muwaadinin Somaliyeed dad Somaliyeed siday ethnic kale u noqon karaan , any way iska sheeko walaan but still he has a fair point not that i condone racism.

Safferz;947938 wrote: Where is my home, Saalax? A little presumptuous, no? Revisionist hogwash. Tell me what part is bad history i can tell you and post you sources of the general elections in the 1959 and how it went. What matters is that this is history and not that long ago and that we learn from the terrible mistakes the generation in the late 50s did.

Johnny B;947903 wrote: That she is from Khaatumo is neither here nor there,, she could have been from Hargeisa and still pose the same laymanish and evidient question and still get the same answer, as it has always been obvious ( at least to those of us who understand ) where the president stands regarding the unity of our Nation. The president answered valiantly despite the dubious nature of statehood of Khaatumo, I enjoyed his honesty regarding those who feel wronged and the federal governement's approach where he clarified that going to war with our breethen in the North is never an option. Now those who lined with our good professor Glaydh's cry of foul and his illigal motion in the federal parliament can breeth and support their president. i doubt she is even from Khatumo, the Khatumites know and can pronounce the KH , the woman in the video said Qatumo , see Koonfurians cannot pronounce the letter KH, while they from the Garaad clan can. So i doubt the woman is from the sool region.

Coofle;947934 wrote: Some of them are not even Somalis, They are African! This part is the only thing wrong about the whole story......in ethical sense that is! not by fact. Maybe he is talking about the Somali bantu, even cabdilahi Yusuf said they are not Somalis.