Abdul;948388 wrote: The ever desperate secessionists are feeling the heat the last couple of days and things will even get worse.This is coming a day after president hassan Sheikh turned his back on them and rejected the break up of the country. Abdul Somaliland doesn't put their hopes into a person or a group of people its survived because of its own strength the past 22 years and before that as they resisted general siad bare. Somaliland controls its land something no white man no black man no Somali man can take from them. Hassan doesn't keep him self busy with Somaliland his main priority is Somalia and the peace in Somalia and to remove the Kenyan proxies from southern Somalia. He and the Somaliland government have a framework of talks and these talks will continue in the next coming months. So tell me where does khatumo stand in here waliba ma xafladihi ba lugu jira , caydina ma ka deyseen madaxweynihi sida webstiyadina lol

Waxas wa waxan ahay eeh maha wax xaqijin u bahaan waxay la mid tahay oo kale adiga oba ma lugu yidha mise lugu ma yidha taasay la mid tahay oo kale.

This is good news Somalia is one nation And Somaliland is one nation Together they are 2 nations But than again some people put their hopes in the hands of the white man to bring unity amongst them so sad

Oba i do not need a test to tell me who i am , dadka identity crisis ay hayso ba waxa iska qaada

A_Khadar;948310 wrote: Someone here has same attributes of this Oromo dude who took me surprise with his “Endha Adegy” not to mention baaaaaacnimadiisa.. It as years back and he went the same school I was going at that time, and the teacher invited all her students, the current and X ones, for getting together in her parents home. Those who didn't have a car, she arranged for a ride. I was among "Ciidanka cagta" and she hooked me up with this Oromo dude. Long story short, when people of all nations from Australia to America started mingling in the gethering, this question circulated around “Where are you from” and asked for those looked non-Americans? When it was the Omoro guy’s turn, he said, he is from Oromia Republic . As I just left Ethiopia few months ago at that time and lived in both Dire Dawa and Adis Ababa for several years, I choked but didn't say much. However someone asked him about where is that and someone else also said I never heard of Oromia.. The dude pulled his pen and drew a map between Somalia, Djibouti and Ethiopia and squarely pointed out its capital as being Dire Dawe, THE OROMIA REPUBLIC.. What can I say, Oromia Republic joined the UN... Welcome Oromia Republic! Oromia republic there is no such thing lol these folks will never have a country of their own they cannot even think for themselves.

oba hiloowlow;948157 wrote: I dare you to take the national geographic Dna ancestry test, if the test actually say you have hashemite origin walahi i'll never post in this forum again marka are you ready? :D http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/browse/productDetail.jsp?productId=2001246&gsk There is no hashimite genetic DNA for instance the Haplogroups will divide several sub groups , the Moroccon sharif Hassan athani and his family carry the E1B1C haplogroup the Hassanis Husseynis of Iraq and iran carry the T1 haplogroup these are the shrine keepers of the Najaf Mosque in iraq. The Jordanian asharaafs of Jordan carry the J1 haplogroup, you could care all of these haplogroups but it still doesnt prove anything it just means you carry another haplogroup. Till the day of today the hashimite DNA does not exist the only way you can know if you study the sub clades and how they are related to sub family level for instance comparing the hassani and the hussani with the asharaafs in Morocco and where they differentiate.

Carafaat ur asking what is wrong with her she is an ethnic somalilander thats what is wrong with her The defeated lot have a problem with her nationality and ethnic origin. Not about her skills but because this woman comes from snm houses and was married to an usc general some people do not like her.

SomaliPhilosopher;948105 wrote: So the Koonfurian's claim over Somaliland is why you keep ties to 'Somalis'? Quite the independent character you are, aren't you? its really that and the last remaining union the social interaction between Somali speaking people, u want it gone and fair point its your website the moment the koonfurians accept Somaliland is different country than theirs i will recommend every Somalilander to delete his membership of this site and never return or the admin should ban all Somalilanders. Wa faduul waxay u joogaan meesha markaas. but as long as they claim it Somalilanders have the right to stay here and defend their land. But the moment you say F off Somalilanders leave our site we share nothing i believe every Somalilander with self respect will go. Do you see any Djiboutians on this site yet they are Somali speaking people but they are not here. Why are they not here because koonfurians do not claim their land. Also the Somali Kenyans are here but smaller in number why because Koonfurians do not claim them.

^^ Oke i understand that fair point.

SomaliPhilosopher;948101 wrote: I see you don't understand the point I was making, which doesn't surprise me. I will make it simple for you, GTFO! Its funny though you have no problem with Somalis from Kenya and Somalis from Ethiopia , yet many of you call for Somalilanders to leave this site yet you claim their country how does that work?

SomaliPhilosopher;948097 wrote: Saalax, you make me cringe. Why don't you stop surrounding yourselves with such 'cannibals' and leave this site and instead join www.somalilandonline.com/community I think the day Koonfurians stop claiming Somaliland altogether in Somalia and abroad and in their constitution , is the day no Somalilander will ever ever visit this site again.

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^^ Because those who support Ethiopia and the dds admin in jigjiga and the last 2 years the support for Ethiopia with in those communities increased. Eventhough he also empowered their tribe in the Somali region, remember the TPLF supported Cabdilahi Yusuf , and ofcourse ileey is seen as a hero by many in Somali galbeed and diaspora.

^^ He says Qaranimada Somaliland mala hargeysu u socda

Safferz;948068 wrote: Yes, why do you ask? lol Cant tell you:D

^^ Are those your fingers?

I also don't like a lot of the ideological components of "Somaliland nationalism," like the insulting language directed towards fellow Somalis in the south as well This goes both ways the koonfurians deny Somaliland and its right to exist thus they get a reaction, action reaction its not based on Somaliland nationalism to dislike the koonfurians , when the future relations between Somalia and Somaliland become normal there is no need for tensions. Somaliland has no problem with other speaking Somali people like Djibouti Somali galbeed region, Kenya's north eastern Somali province. All is well its just koonfurians and their dislike for Somaliland.

I like safferz she is a smart young lady although i disagree with her on her love for Oromos and the words she picks when she is discussing Somaliland related issues. But woman are always treated well by the xaaji

True it is not illogical but it is not legal , since Khaatumo ( as an entity or a federal Somali state) itself for a reason or another can neither negotiate with Somaliland nor liberate it's territory militarily, the federal government has to deal with the reality on the ground as the underdog of the status quo, yes exactly that is right Johnny, hassan and Siilanyo agreed in the previous talks that the Somaliland government is the sole representative of the people of Somaliland the state that united with Somalia on first of July.They have agreed that the 2 talks are always 2 sides Somalia on one side Somaliland on the other. They just haven't agreed on their future relations and what kind of relationship they will have. Khatumo on the other hand is not a state under Somalia they might call themselves that but they are not state under Somalia. Nor does the government of hassan sheikh recognize them as a state or a movement or anything else.

Saalax;948044 wrote: Pictures or no proof . She was probably visiting Somaliland carrying a Kenyan or Ethiopian passport and working for some of these governments yes foreigners are treated very well in Somaliland. Farax macalin got the same treatment when he visited Somaliland wa caadi.

Wadani;948032 wrote: Bro, y u surprised. She's not SNM dee, even though her family is reer Hargaysa. Many people were born in hargeysa doesn't make them hargaysaawis, to name a few Sangub from dhagaxbuur, Yasmin allas the writer from gedo. Our stoic from isiolo from Kenya has more claim to hargeysa since he traces his lineage back to the Sultanate lineage of Sultan Farax of Ceelka Herer the original hargeysa.

Alpha Blondy;948029 wrote: ^ the NORTH? ? :mad: Because she is from the south Alpha they the Koonfurians are opposed to Somaliland when will you get that , never trust them even those that try to act nice. Always treat them with suspicion i know the Koonfurians very well. Because what they say they dont mean it.

Who is trolling? are you saying the Somali speaking people share the same history or share the same nationality or even share the same ancestry i doubt it very much unless you want to bring proof. The Somali identity is a lose identity of various tribes of various origins who came from different parts of the world and regions. Any one can be Somali just master the Somali language and you can be a Somali a rendile if he learns the Somali language marries from a Somali is a Muslim can be incorporated in one the so called tribes of Somalia and can be a Somali.Somali identity is similar like the Arab identity you have berbers assimilated with arab claiming to be an Arab a dark blue Sudanese claiming to be an Arab to the Assyrian Syrian claiming to be an Arab. But its a lose identity and Arabism spread around the middle east into Africa during the rise of islam. Similar like Soomaals they were different people of different origins but islam united them and they started closely defending themselves from other aggressors because they shared the same faith and developed a common language this happened after the death of our beloved Prophet Muhammad may peace be upon him and the rashidun took over the islamic caliphate.

Safferz;948008 wrote: ... which is mythology, and a way of distancing yourself from your indigeneity to the Horn of Africa and relationship to other Somalis. Ancestry and the genealogy of the people Somaliland is well noted no one is distancing them selves from any one but that is the identity of the people of SL, and the people of Somaliland take their identity and ancestry very serious. Relationship with other Somalis is strictly based on the language and some cultural similarities but its not based on ancestry or history or nationality.