Thats wishful thinking faisal is meeting a man he can cooperate with it and pragmatical Somalia leader, remember they previously met in Ankara. And this meeting was just an unofficial informal meeting. The only written rule we have is that you cannot visit Somaliland if you hold a position in Somalia and you cannot visit Somalia if you hold a position in Somaliland. But they can meet in other foreign countries its all good for the talks in 2 months time. Dont get why some folks are getting excited faisal is still the same man who said Ethiopians are closer to me than Koonfurians lol

Bal weynu eegi how is xamar faisals city ?

Nuune sultan faisal met culusow in ankara to and culusow did not say midnimada Somalia wa muqadis and even if he said that Somaliland was never part of Somalia, it was part of the Somali republic union, koonfurians need to use the right name when they talk about the union. I have listened to culusow and he said Midnimada Somaliya wa lama tabtaan not muqadis. but this is normal he believes that, remember he was speaking to a certain audience. They just had a casho i dont think its a big issue, Sultan faisal met sh sharif to before the talks happened in. Nuune the day sultan faisal goes to xamar is the day the pope goes to a pilgrimage to mecca:D I think its just an innocent informal casho

Nuune what do you think of the Picture your self I see Sultan faisal with hassan culusow and Fawziya and they are smiling.

^^ Somali nationalism died when Djibouti gained independence and the S rebel movements started springing up left right:D

Where did he say that do you have a video? Although its just words even if he said that but its not showing the middle finger, he cannot show SL the middle finger he has not the means to do that. See what he and Somaliland share are the talks thats the only thing they share. He can only walk away from the talks and let the talks collapse. Its like when Sultan faisal says hassan is a damul jadiid sect group and controls just a few towns in Somalia. Trust me hassan knows his enemies and they are those who are escorting the Kikuyus into Somalia. But both hassan and sultan faisal need to honer the 7 points agreed in Ankara.

The Somaliland independence will also be held in Somalia's capital Mogadishu this year, it will be held in all the 5 Somali speaking countries Somalia Mogadishu Kenya Ethiopia Djibouti.

Xuska 18-ka May Oo Qaban Qaabadiisu Ka Socoto Caasimada Somalia Ee Muqdhiso Iyo Doorka Jaaliyada S/land Ee Xamar Muqdisho, May 10, 2013 (Haatuf) - Wararka ka imanaya magaalada Muqdisho ayaa sheegaya inuu ka socdo qabanqaabo ay wadaan xubno ka tirsan xisbiyada ka jira magaalada Muqdisho iyo jaaliyada reer Somaliland ee degan magaalada Muqdisho ee caasimada Somalia. Kuwaas oo intaa ku daraya in haatan loo qoondeyey in xafaladaasi ay ka dhacdo huteel ka mida huteelada ku yaala magaalada Muqdisho. Gudoomye ku xigeenka xisbiga Midnimada Jamuuriga Cali Maxamed (Cali-timo-jilic) oo khadka telofoonka ugu waramayey Haatuf isagoo jooga magaalda Muqdisho. “18-ka May oo ah malintii ay walaaladay ay la noqdeen midnimadii lagu hungoobay kaas oo ay maanta marayaan 22sano, midnimada iyaga ayaa noo keenay ayaa maantana iyaga ayaa la noqday, xorna iyagaa ayaa u ah cid qasbi kartaa ma jirto oo oran karta midnimadu waa muqadas, kitaabka quraanka uun baa ah muqadas waxaa kale waa wax ku yimaada wadahadal dad walaalo ah maantana waxaan walaaladay ka rajaynayaa sida ay iyaga ula muuqato in aan ku taageersanahay oo cid jujuub ku keeni kartaa ama hadidi kartaa ma jirto”. Ayuu yidhi Mr Cali Maxamed, waxaanu intaasi ku daray “Somaliland 22 sano waxaa ay samaysten cid samaysatay ma jirto haydaheda waxa ay leeyihiin isla xisaabtan dhaba oo waxa ay qaataan cashuuro bariga iyo kan badaba oo ay ku bixiyaan ciidamadooda iyo 20kun shaqaale dawlada Somaliland u shaqeeya, hadaanay xasidnimo naga ahayn maaha waxaa ay qabteen wax la dafiri karo” Sidaasi ayuu yidhi Cali timo jilic ku, waxaanu intaa raaciyey “Hadaanu nahay xisbiga Midnimada Jamhuuriga waxaan diyaar u nahay in aanu samayno anagoo kaashanayna jaaliyda reer Somaliland ee degan Muqdisho in aan maalintaas wayn soo dhawayno oo dadka reer Muqdishana u tagno in walalaheen naga mudan yahiin in lasoo dhaweeyo oo aan la fogayn” ayuu yidhi Cali Timo Jilic

^^ Middle finger what did he do?

Daahir calasow is a mental person qof madaxa ka buka weye

Point taken

Name an example how did he abuse his powers be a bit more specific , i just hear reer hargeysa saying hirsi this hirsi that , but no one is saying what he did wrong.He is very undiplomatic sometimes. But he didn't make a big mistake so far.

^^^What did he do?

They are not ONLF waxbaad isku qaldaysa Salaxo. ONLF wali duurkay ku jiraan and rejected the fake peace deal the TPLF came with. Although i have to admit since 2011 ileey gained lots of supporters including many diaspora members former ONLF supporters. The TPLF and their divisive politics they have been spreading propaganda that Amharas are the evil of all things not just the Somali region but the oromo kilil and southern nationalities afar kilil and ofcourse Tigray kilil.

Here it is " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>

http://www.waagacusub.com/news/09.05.13.1garwaaqsi.htm

Zack correct my bad.

Yes siciid and Axmed are very different even though they are brothers

The center of conflict abyei oil rich region it seems after the Killing of Dinka NG ok Abyei chief created a new friction between sudan and south sudan around the border. Although Ethiopia brought them closer together in talks last months.

South Sudan moves soldiers to Sudan region By MACHEL AMOS in Juba | Thursday, May 9 2013 at 15:54 18 3 22 Font size: A+ | Reset | A- Killed: Leader of Sudan's Dinka Ngok tribe, Kual Deng Majok South Sudan has moved some of its troops back to the border zone to protect civilians, an official said on Thursday. The move comes days after the country's Dinka chief, Kual Deng Majok, and several other people were killed by Sudan Arab Misseriya militias in the disputed Abyei region. “We have moved some of the smaller units to protect the civilians until the time that the United Nations peacekeeping forces or African Union will have the mechanism to manage the buffer zone,” said army spokesman, Colonel Philip Aguer Panyang. “You cannot create a buffer zone that you cannot protect,” he told a local radio station. This confirmed a report from Satellite Sentinel Project headed by the American actor and activist George Clooney, which said captured images indicated that Sudan and South Sudan had moved troops into the buzzer zone in violation of previous agreements. Sudan has, however, denied that it violated the agreement, saying that even the joint border monitoring and verification mechanism the two parties had established to oversee the buffer zone had not recorded any complaint about the alleged violation. “This is not true, we as the armed forces are still outside the buffer zone as agreed in Addis Ababa Agreement,” Sudan Armed Forces spokesman Alkhaled Sahad. Both sides had withdrawn 10km from each side of the undefined border to establish a 20km safe demilitarised zone. Tensions have been easing between the two former foes, with a promise of mutual cooperation. The killing of the Dinka Ng’ok Abyei chief on Saturday is, however, a new challenge the two sides are trying to contain.

^^ I think it will be uploaded soon stay tuned maadeey what is your opinion on the professor?

Abdul than how come Hassan and his government has not empowered you and supported you. What i mean adding something of value is to support his government the interests of his government. Hassan right now is fighting the evil forces who want to use Kenyan muscle to establish an autonomous state. His focus is mainly on that and it seems you support those who are opposed to his interests.Somaliland is not a European country i never said that but SL govt and Somalia's govt have an understanding so far. Abdul can the so called USP provide a base for Hassans government can they give him security support how can they help him.

Prof Axmed Ismaaciil Samater Oo Ka Waramay Cadaawad Badan Oo Uu Ka Dhaxley Garawshihii Uu Siiyey S/Land, KanaHadlay Sababta Uu 20-Ka Sano Dibad-Wareega U Ahaa Hargeysa, May 10, 2013 (Haatuf) – Prof. Axmed Ismaaciil Samater oo ah aqoonyahan Somaliland kasoo jeeda, balse 22-kii sano ee ay jirta Somaliland si wayn u aaminsanaa mabda’a Somaliweyn oo mudooyinkan u muuqday mid ka soo dabcay halkii uu taagnaa ayaa sheegay inuu cadaawad badan ka dhaxlay garawshiyo uu hore uga bixiyey rabitaanka iyo dadaalka shacbiga Somaliland, kaas oo tilmaamay in dacaayado raqiis ah laga fidiyo. Prof Samater waxa uu sheegay inaanu shaqsiyan diidanayn Midow danbe oo Somaliland iyo Somalia mar kale dhexmara, balse uu go’aansaday in imika wixii ka danbeeya uu ka shaqeeyo sidii beesha Caalamku u dhagaysan lahayd Qadiyadda Somaliland oo uu si adag u qiray inay dunidu ka dhago adaygaysay mudo dheer. Aqoonyahan Axmed Ismaaciil Samater waxa uu sidoo kale ka waramay sababta uu Somaliland u iman waayey mudadii ay jirtey, kaas oo meesha ka saaray in loo diiday inuu dalka yimaado, tibaaxay inuu isagu markii hore diidanaa inuu yimaado, balse uu imaka uu go’aansaday inuu dalka yimaado. Waxaanu sidaas ku sheegay mar uu ka hadlayey Dood aqoonyahano Soomaali ah loogu qabtey Magaalada Minnesota ee Cariga Maraykanka. Ugu horayna isaga oo ka hadlaya gooni isku taaga Somaliland, waxa uu yidhi “Hadii ay Somaliland sidaa ku tagto oo aanu ku baxno aduunyaduna Aqoonsato, waxay u noqonaysaa Tusaale Soomaalida kale oo dhan, isla markaana wadadaas hadii la furo Fardihiii kalena markaa way soo baxayaan oo markaa marka waxa ku jira hadii ay Somaliland rabitaankeedaas ku guulaysato faa’ido iyo khasaare-ba way leedahay. Mida kale aniga waxay iila muuqataa hadii Somaliland iyo Somalia ay miiska wada-hadalka soo fadhiisteen inay Muftaax tahay oo hadii ay sidaas Somaliland ku go’dana ay furmayaan daaqado badan, hadii ay dib u soo noqdaana albaabka kala qaybsanaanta Soomaalidu uu xidhmi doono maadaama oo kuwii ugu fogaa ee waqooyigu ay soo noqdeen”. Isaga oo hadalkiisa sii wata, isla markaana ka hadlayey sababta uu Somaliland u iman waayey, waxa uu yidhi “Waligay Cidi iimay diidin inaan Somaliland tago, anigaa diiday inaan tago ee taas sidaas ha la fahmo. Somaliland doodaha waawayn ee yaala gudaheeda ee taagan ama soo socda ee laga hadlayo way badan yihiin laakiin anigu waxaan taageersanahay in dadkaas Somaliland way dadaaleene oo waxbay qabsadeene ha loo qiro waxay hagaajisteen. Mida kale waxyaabaha qaarkood hadii ay muran galaan waa mushkilad”. Prof. Axmed Ismaaciil mar uu ka hadlayey halka uu ka taagnaa Midawga Somalia 30-kii Sano ee ugu danbeyey iyo sida uu u arko gooni isku taaga Somaliland, waxa uu yidhi “Anigu 30 sanadood ayaan ka hadlayey Qoomiyada iyo Midowga Ummadda Soomaalida inaan laga tagin, isla markaana dadka shalay dhashay ama siyaasada soo galay ee meelahaas Sarifka ka wada way ogyihiin inaan 30 sanadood Midowga Somalia inaan ku dagaalamayey oo kuwa meelahaas wax ka wad-wada aan ku lahaa waar naga daaya. Aniga oo aan Midowgii ka tagin oo aan diidanayn inay Soomaali isku soo noqoto, hadana maanta waxa aan joogaa oo aan soo gaadhay meel aan doonayo Qadiyadii dadkii reer Somaliland aduunyadu inay sii wanaagsan u fahanto, mana ah mid gooni u socota oo *****-aysan ama ***-eysan oo waanu wada degnaa Waqooyi oo qabaa’il badan ayaa wada degan Waqooyiga. Hadii la fahmo anigu waxa aan aaminsanahay inay wax ku soo kordhin karto heshiisiinta ummadda Soomaalida”. Isaga oo hadalkiisa sii watana, waxa uu intaas raaciyey “Waxa aan ka qayb-galay 30-kii Sanadood ee ugu danbeeyey Shirar Soomaaliyeed oo aad u tiro badan, isla markaana 20-kii sano ee ugu danbeeyey reer Somaliland way qaylinayeen oo waxay lahaayeen waar anaga xanuunkeedii wuu naga ba’ay oo gooni ayaanu u baxnay. Shirarbaan ka qaybgalayey mudadaasi Walaahi caawa waan dhaaranayaaye inaanan wali ka qaybgalin shir mar uun lagaga hadlay ama lagu soo qaaday ama lagu dhagaysanayo oo banaanka lagu soo dhigay arimaha Somaliland oo la leeyahay waar nimanyahow dadkaasi waxbay qabsadeene ha loo qiro waxay qabsadeen, markaa Walaahi aniga ayey igu kaliftaa mar walba inaan ka hadlo arintaasi”. Proff Samater mar uu ka hadlayey Cilmi baadhis uu xaqiiqada Somaliland ka jirta ka sameeyey, waxa uu hadalkiisa ku bilaabay “Anigu waxaan aaminsanahay Somaliland wadankii la odhan jiray oo aan ahayn wax imika la sameeyey oo ah wax hore u jiray waxaan qabaa waxna ka qoray isla markaana baadhis ku sameeyey wax badan oo wanaagsan inay Somaliland qabsatey oo ay aduunyaduna u markhaati furayso oo ay ku odhanayso Soomaalida cadaalada iyo runta jecelina ay u markhaati furayso, ayaan hadana qabaa inay wax badanina ka dhiman yihiin waxbadana ay qabsadeen. Markaa waxaan leeyahay waar waxaas wanaagsan ee ay qabsadeen reer Somaliland ha loo qiro oo garawshiyo ha laga bixiyo, iyaguna ha is hagaajiyaan oo aan ka mid ah dadka halkaas ka imid oo waxaan leeyahay wixii khaldana ha la hagaajiyo”.

Complicated;948513 wrote: No wonder Somalis don't agree on anything. The one from Hargaysa hates Xamar, the one from Xamar hates Kismayo, the one from Bosaso hates Jigjiga and the one from Jigjiga hates Xamar. It is a never ending cycle of hate. We are people who thrive on the misery of their kins and worst of all, one would go out of his way to amplify the fire next door while illogically arguing to being a "nationalist" or hating the idea of "qabiil". PeaceNow's "we are cursed people" comment comes to mind. Hargeysa does not hate Xamar, hargeysa just refuses to be ruled from xamar or to be part of the failed union but there is no hate at all, people in Somaliland wish to see a strong united Somalia , next to Somaliland.

interesting development it seems that they cant even agree to select a leader, because it will create friction they just think by sitting in Kismayo things might change. The real issue is large stakeholders are opposed to the conference.