Classfied me and u both know that uniting Ahmed madoobe with barre hiiraale is like forming unity and an agreement between hamas and the Israeli government.

Was his presidential palace attacked?

^^ Because he gained allot of weight the past few months since was in Kismayo , Axmed madoobe wuxu nugu yidhi maalin walba awr baanu u qalayney cumar buur.

Metta You cannot sideline entire communities u will just create a more divided Somalia and it will for ever remain a weak country divided nation.i dont see how this can be achieved u need to have one man one vote system and let the people decide.

They visited Mogadishu and met the President of Somalia ,, but they dont have a base in Somalia yet.

^^ I doubt professor galaydh will ever be in bed with the pirates:D Dont even dream about that

Chimera;958644 wrote: Speaker Jawaari must come down hard on these crappy action groups, and outlaw them immediately in parliament. They are not even in the country but based in the diaspora lol

Well since the HAG thing is a tribal organization like Sahal . it promotes political HAGISM the same as Sahal. But i dont think people need to take tribal groups based outside the country to serious.

I dont know u mean oday xaad?

I wonder though if they will crown Axmed diiriye as the supreme HAG Sultan like the ceremonial spiritual leader. Like in the form the of the Cultural leadership. Similar like our Xaaji Cabdi waraabe. And the Tigrays had in the 90s Abay Yohannes.Who would open the ceremonial gatherings of the Tigray leadership.

Good on the President, it should be clear that the Somali government should protect its nationals abroad by using their diplomatic missions in those countries.

They want to be like the Kikuyus of Kenya and the Tigrays of Ethiopia and the Jesus tribe of Djibouti

Sahal is a diaspora tribal organization its like HAG also a tribal diaspora organization LOL Sahal supports Jubbaland Puntland Khatumo wardheernews ileey the Somali Kenyan politicians HAG supports the Somali government damuljadiid galmudug ximan iyo xeeb , Barre hiraales Jubbaland Keydmedia.

Deeper troubles at home for the garowe clan enclave

Whats with people and ictraaf searching i dont understand what ictraaf got to do with this . This is about samatar being back to his homeland what does that have to do with Somaliland in search for their recognition. Somaliland recognition will be discussed with nation states. Not with individuals.

She is a Somalilander but on the side of Kenya this is normal she works for the Kenyan republic. And her policies are in favor of Kenyan interests. And those interests never conflict with Somaliland interests.

I really want to listen to the full interview. With jawaari. Funny the last part the interviewer made him really nervous Sultan Faisal was more direct and answered every question

Ergayga cusub ee Qaramada Midoobay u soo magacowday Soomaaliya oo Muqdisho yimid si uu xilka ula wareego Wasiirka Warfaafinta ee Dowladda Soomaaliya & Ergayga cusb ee UNSOM Isniin, Juun 03, 2013 (HOL) — Ergayga cusub ee Qaramadda Midoobay u soo magacowday Soomaaliya, Nicholas Kay ayaa maanta yimid Muqdisho si uu ula wareego xilkiisa ergaygii hore ee Qaramada Midoobay u qaabilsanaa arrimaha Soomaaliya, Augustine Mahiga. Nicholas Kay oo u dhashay dalka Ingiriiska ayaa waxaa xilka u magacaabay bishii hore xoghayaha guud ee Qaramada Midoobay, Ban Ki-Moon isagoo ka noqon doona madax xafiiska cusub ee Qaramada Midoobay ay ka furanayso Soomaaliya ee UNSOM. “Waxaan ku faraxsanahay inaan Muqdisho imaado iyo inaan helo fursad aan ku taageero dowladda Federaalka iyo dadka Soomaaliyeed si dib loogu soo celiyo nabaddii Soomaaliya,” ayuu yiri Nicholas Key markii uu Muqdisho ka soo dagay. Isagoo sii hadlay ayuu yiri: “Soomaaliya waa dal sharaf weyn iyo taariikh qoto-dheer ku leh caalamka, lehna dhaqan nool iyo qiyam adag. Marnaba ma illaabi doono taas inta aan howshan hayo.” “Waxaan bogaadinayaa Dr. Mahiga iyo Shaqaalihii UNPOS, kuwaasoo gutay hawshooda, kuna faani kara guulaha ay soo hooyeen. Maanta waxaa billowday waa cusub oo u baryay Qaramada Midoobay iyo UNSOM oo ah hawlgal cusub.” Mr. Key ayaa sheegay in xafiiska cusub ee Qaramada Midoobay ka furayso Soomaaliya oo dhan uu fursad taariikhi ah u yahay shacabka iyo dowladda Soomaaliya. Waxayna dadka Soomaaliyeed xaq u leeyihiin inay wax weyn fishaan. “Waxaan ku han-weynahay oo aan rajaynaynaa in sannadka 2016 Somalia laga qabto doorasho ay dadku kusoo doortaan madaxda hoggaamin doonta, caqabayada na horyaallana aad ayay u badan yihiin, laakiin waa inaan shaqo badan qabano si aan uga gudubno dhammaan caqabadaha horteenna yaalla. Sidoo kale, ergaygu wuxuu sheegay in maalmaha soo socda uu Muqdisho kula kulmi doono madaxweynaha Soomaaliya, Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud, uuna la kulmi doono xubnaha kale ee dowladda, madaxda AMISOM iyo IGAD, bulshada rayidka ah iyo saaxiibbada kale ee taageera Soomaaliya. “Waxaan daneynayaa inaan xiriir adag la sameysto dhammaan dadka ka shaqeynaya maslaxadda dowladda iyo dadka Soomaaliyeed. Marka ugu horreysa, shaqaalaheenna waxay saldhig ka dhigan doonaan magaalooyinka Muqdisho, Hargeysa, Garoowe iyo Baydhabo, waxaana ka go’an in Soomaalida oo dhan ay la shaqeeyaan,” ayuu hadalkiisa raaciyay. Ergeyga ayaa hadalkiisa raaciyay: “Aniga shakhsi ahaan waxaan si aad ah u aamin-sanahay hawlgalkan, waxaana ku hanweynahay hawsha bilaha soo socota aan qaban doono.” UNSOM waa xafiis cusub oo ah hawlgal siyaasadeed ee Qaramada Midoobay, oo hawshiisa billaabay maanta oo ah 03-Juun-2013. Waxaana xilkiisa ka mid ah inuu taageero dhismaha qaranka iyo nabadeynta, xooggana saaro dowlad-wanaagga, dib-u-habeyn hay’adaha ammaanka, sharciga iyo kala dambeynta, xuquuqda aadanaha, dhex-dhexaadinta siyaasadeed iyo isku-duwidda kaalmada caalamiga.

Malistar Cumar buur was was a faroole agent to begin with this is not something new

Carafaat do you think there are Somali nationalists left well atleast the Somali political leaders are not nationalistic people. This is not something new

Kenya is now deeply involved in Somalia domestic issues state formation federal constitution, this will be very interesting how the Government of Somalia reacts to it. Uhurro now wants to play the jury on the Somali national verdict.

But what change will this bring on the ground. I dont believe Hassan will approve the leadership of Ahmed madoobe because its a constitutional principle for him . Just because faroole insist on it. And what can uhurro change more moral support for one side. How does a compromise look like in this context can some one tell us.But surely this is a goal for the Jubbaland and Puntland to complain to uhurro kenyata , about hassans policy.

The Zack;958348 wrote: What you don't understand is Tigrays aka Wayane make less than 10% of the army. The foot soldiers are not important the army chiefs colonels generals are all tigrays in the Ethiopian army from all of the commands in Ethiopia The Tigrays are rooted in the Ethiopian Military.

^ Well u dont have a choice its either that or nothing

Problem with Ethiopia there is no unified opposition every ethnic group is fighting for their own political goals the Amharas want to replace the TPLF and want to reinvent Ethiopia under their vision probably they are dreaming to bring back how haile selasie ruled and Menelik. The oromos are divided parts of them are part of the Amhara movements ginbots EPPF others are OLF supporters and the last group of them are in bed with the TPLF.Egyptians were a nation state , Ethiopia is not Ethiopia,is very different than Egypt in all aspects. Its true that the TPLF is much weaker than it was few years ago. But still i dont see how protests will worry the TPLF. Mad Mullah you should not view oromo as one ethnic group , oromos are just one in name but in reality they are not the arsi oromos have nothing to do with wollo oromo or showa oromo Tulamo oromo. Those oromos are basically multilingual Amharas. While the Wellega oromos are in bed with the TPLF. And the Borana oromos are basically disconnected from the rest of the oromos. Than there are the sidamo liberation movements all of their farm lands is in the hands of indians now. And the Somalis just want complete secession so they cant really team up with the other groups because they dont have the same interests the olf came the closest and basically OLF doesn't function any more so they cant team up with any one. For the Somalis a Strong Somali state would ideal for them to support their cause but i dont see that happening any time soon. The Somali republic is in the process of fragmentation. You cannot compare Egypt with Ethiopia, Egyptians were a nation state and have Christian minority they are not as diverse as Ethiopia the people just there wanted change. While in Ethiopia there are secessionist movements left right and major religious differences fundamental political differences.