Does the professor fully support the separation of Somaliland from Somalia, Listen from 19:25 the republic of Somaliland., than few minutes later he says it again Jamhuuuriyada Somaliland. I think the professor with this speech he gave up on the Koonfurians officially

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^^ Depends how the Kenyans assist but for now its under Kenyan protection.

The camelover guy was hilarious to but its obvious they agreed that jubbaland has more than 40 clans , and Ahmed madoobe just represents his clan. The debate was actually not that bad, because people were being honest. People were talking about clan dulmi subjugation expansionism, foreign intervention. And these are the key problems. Not some constitution there is no proper reconciliation between the people who live there. The constitution is not the problem its the people who cant agree. And finally Universal TV is putting it in context, and people see what is wrong with Somalia. its some times good to speak your mind its part of the caafimaad. No need to hide and hide your feelings.

Mad_Mullah;961909 wrote: Somaliland is successful because it's only one tribe. That's why they are fighting in Khaatumo. Nope its several tribes the borama tribe the seylac tribe the hargeisa tribe the makhir tribe. There is no war with khatumo when did you hear there was a war?

^^ How does Siilaanyo undermine peace bal waxa la isugu sheekenayo eeg, Somaliland is a strategic ally of the international community in the war against terrorism and piracy. Somaliland also support Somalia coming together in peace and stability, it repeated that several times. New UN envoy hails Somaliland as ‘island of relative peace and stability’ in insecure region

Iraqi Kurdistan: Oil, politics and power We ask if Iraq's prime minister can resolve disputes over territory and oil to finally reunite the country. Inside Story Last Modified: 11 Jun 2013 12:33 Nouri al-Maliki, Iraq's prime minister, makes a rare visit to the semi-autonomous Kurdish north, a region that could hold the key to Iraq's future prosperity and stability. So a lot is at stake for the visit of Nouri al-Maliki: This is the first step after a long time of a deadlock ... Kurdistan's prime minister went to Baghdad a few weeks ago and promised to take the first step in the right direction .... It is difficult to predict the outcome ... but psychologically it is important for the people of Kurdistan that Maliki is going to Kurdistan, that there is a dialogue going on and that there is hope. Khaled Salih, a political scientist and former spokesman of the Kurdistan Regional Government First, there is power-sharing, in fact, Kurdish support was essential for al-Maliki's coalition government, but a power-sharing agreement has fallen apart. There is also disputed territories as many areas in the region are still claimed by both sides. Then, there is oil. Kurds say they have the right to control their own reserves. And finally there is identity - Kurds share a common geographical territory and language, with many favouring an independent Kurdish state. Masoud Barzani, the president of the Kurdish region, made his feelings clear in a statement in September 2012. "The Kurds will not live in the shadow of a dictatorial regime. The right to decide our destiny is a legitimate one and we ask others not to try to take this right from us," he said. May has been the worst month in Iraq since 2008, with more than 1,000 people killed. A series of bomb attacks north of Baghdad on Monday claimed yet more lives.Two car-bombs and a suicide attack targeted a mainly Shia market town near the city of Baquba. Besides, on Saturday, a suicide bomber rammed a car into an army checkpoint in a Shia neighbourhood in Baghdad, killing five soldiers and two civilians, drawing therefore this response from the Iraqi prime minister: "The region is going through a new tempest, a reckless and sectarian tempest, a tempest of chaos in most countries of the area. And one of its most dangerous aspects is the return of extremist organisations like al-Qaeda and the Nasra Front and other advocates of radicalism and sectarianism, sometimes regrettably backed by Fitwas (religious decrees): a matter that brings back the ghost of fear of a return of violence, not only in Iraq, but in the whole region." People in Iraq's Kurdish region are increasingly striking out on their own, especially in Iraq's northeast. Erbil is the regional capital that has taken care of its own affairs since 1991, when Saddam Hussein's troops left the area after the Gulf War. Ever since his re-election, everything Maliki has done has made the situation worse ... Given the other problems he has ... he really does not need a Kurdish problem. Lawrence Korb, a senior fellow at the Centre for American Progress, and a former US assistant secretary of defence It is the country’s most prosperous and secure region, which has strengthened its economy, and helped encourage foreign investment. However, part of its budget is still paid for by the national government, from oil revenues. Oil is at the heart of much of the tensions between Kurds in the north and the central government in Iraq. The Kurds used to ship crude through a pipeline controlled by Baghdad, but that came to an abrupt halt in December because of a disagreement about payments to oil companies. The semi-autonomous Kurdish region has now almost completed its own pipeline, which will run from the Tawke oilfield in the north to Turkey - cutting out Iraq. This decision has angered Baghdad which insists it should control all of Iraq's oil. But with deals between the Kurds and Exxon Mobil, Chevron Corp and Total, it seems the region's leaders are well-placed to proceed on their own. So, will Iraq's prime minister's visit to the Kurdish north help in solving the Iraqi issues and unite this country wracked by violence and division? To answer these questions, Inside Story, with presenter Jane Dutton, is joined by guests: Khaled Salih, a political scientist and former spokesman of the Kurdistan Regional Government; Lawrence Korb, a senior fellow at the Centre for American Progress, and a former US assistant secretary of defence; and Torhan al-Mufti, currently Iraq's minister of communications and minister of provincial affairs. "The whole political sides, from Sunni, Shia, and Turkmen and Christians and all the other political sides ... are realising the kind of danger they are faced to, so they are starting to have meetings together and they are trying to calm down the political situation." Torhan al-Mufti, Iraq's minister of communications and minister of provincial affairs http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2013/06/201361172934430597.html

^^ War mala kani ma fayooba, waryaa jooji jooji ..

^Not exactly because i said they are buried there not all of the people are ahlu bait, although the 2 countries are very close.

^^ Even half Ethnic Somalilandish people such as Nimco dareen sing for Somaliland And Cambuulo is telling us this woman is from Somaliland yet all she does is sing for the koonfurians naga da wa tu is nacday eh. Kheyr nugu ma so kordhinayso Djibouti non ethnic Somalilandes sing for Somaliland like kaltuun bacado and Xanxanteeye , and this is woman is supposedly from Somaliland.

^^ I find it very entertaining the HAG oday was really funny, it shows though the fake Somali nationalism is based on tribal politics, those who support jubbaland do it for tribal reason those against it do it because of tribal reasons.

Syriyinta dhibaato naga ma dhexesyo wanaag baanu la jecelnahay wa dad aanu walaalo nahay , kala badh ahlu baitka ku asaasn siyria marka wax badan banu isu nahay.

We pray for the Syrian citizens my allah protect you

Very funny debate weye lol, pure tribalism, you can easily tell who is a HAG and who is a SAHAL.. There is no balanced view, the sahal guy minority baad tihin wala idin xukumaya:D

^^ Hada wa tu is nacday i have never seen her singing SL songs , did she ever compose an SL song , ever are. I prefer the HAG farxiya fiiska , Farxiya fiiska is more of a Somalilander than this chick.

New UN envoy hails Somaliland as ‘island of relative peace and stability’ in insecure region [special Representative Nicholas Kay listening in Mogadishu to one of a group of Somali women activists about a number of their concerns. Special Representative Nicholas Kay listening in Mogadishu to one of a group of Somali women activists about a number of their concerns. Photo: AU-UN IST/ Stuart Price 13 June 2013 – The new United Nations envoy for Somalia arrived today in Somaliland, which he said has remained “an island of relative peace and stability” and could provide lessons for peace consolidation throughout the wider region. “We are…here to learn and to support initiatives that will lead to sustainable peace, stability and prosperity in Somalia and beyond,” said Nicholas Kay, head of the new UN Assistance Mission in Somalia (UNSOM) as he arrived in Hargeisa, Somaliland this morning. In his first visit to the region since assuming his duties as head of the Mission on 3 June, he met with President Ahmed Mahamed Mohamud (Silaanyo) and officials of the Somaliland Administration. He was received by Dr. Mohamed Abdillahi Omar, Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Relations, who accompanied Mr. Kay to the mass graves in Hargeisa, in commemoration of the worst human rights violations of the Siyad Barre regime, which occurred between 1984 and 1988. On his arrival, he said: “I have come to Hargeisa early in my new assignment in order to make it clear to the authorities and people of Somaliland that the United Nations supports their aspirations for peace and prosperity.” “Somaliland has remained an island of relative peace and stability in an insecure region and we believe that there are lessons that can be learned here about stabilizing the whole region,” he continued, noting Somaliland’s efforts to strengthen democratic institutions and to entrench democracy through holding periodic elections. “We are also aware of the challenges that Somaliland faces in institutionalizing a formal system of justice alongside the traditional one and we look forward to working together to reinforce the rule of law,” Mr. Kay said, stressing that the Mission stood ready to support constructive engagement between Somalia and Somaliland. Noting that this was the first of many visits to Somaliland and that he intends to have a close and fruitful relationship with its people and authorities of the region, he said the UNSOM office in Hargeisa will be proactively engaging the administration and civil society to explore areas of further cooperation. The mandate of UNSOM is to support the building of national capacity, peacebuilding, with a focus on good governance, security sector reform, rule of law, human rights, providing “good offices” for mediation and political reconciliation and coordination of international assistance. Meanwhile, the Security Council was briefed this afternoon by Assistant Secretary-General Tayé-Brooke Zerihoun on the situation in the Juba regions of Somalia. Following those closed door talks, Mark Lyall Grant of the United Kingdom, which holds the Council’s presidency for the month, read out a statement expressing Council members’ concern at the deterioration in the security situation in the Juba regions, particularly in Kismayo, and at the resulting impact on the civilian population and the humanitarian situation. “The Members of the Security Council called on all parties to refrain from any action which may threaten peace and stability in the Juba regions and to engage with the Federal Government of Somalia in a constructive manner to achieve a peaceful resolution to the current crisis and to alleviate the dire humanitarian situation,” he said. Further, Council members underlined their support for the development of an effective federal system of Government, in line with the Provisional Constitution and in respect of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Somalia, in order to ensure a constructive and sincere partnership between the Somali Government and local and regional administrations. “The members of the Security Council welcomed the commitment of the Federal Government of Somalia to lead reconciliation efforts in the Juba regions with the support of UNSOM, IGAD [intergovernmental Authority on Development] and other appropriate actors,” he said, adding that Council members urged that this be taken forward expeditiously. Security Council members underlined the availability of the Special Representative of the Secretary-General to assist the Government of Somalia in peacefully resolving the situation. They also underlined the importance of the issues in the Juba regions not distracting from the urgent need to end the threat posed by Al-Shabaab and bring, security and prosperity to the Somali people, the overwhelming majority of whom are committed to peace through dialogue. “In that context, the members of the Council underscored their support for AMISOM [African Union Mission in Somalia] and reiterated their willingness to take action against those who undermine the peace and reconciliation process in Somalia,” the Council president concluded.

Yes he is Somalias ambassador but he wont be opening his political office in Somaliland,this is a UN chief , Somaliland diplomatic channels go via Ambassadors sitting in Ethiopia and Kenya. Because the country is not recognized.

Abtigiis marka ma waxad ku talinaysa in axmed madoobe na dawladisa ahaado xassan na HAG dawlad u noqdo , faroole na reer budhcadbadeed dawlad u ahaado. Dawladnimo Somali waligeed la heli mayo markaas, Abtigiis hadaas sida rabtid, oo kiiniya qeyb Somalia yeelato. Xassan na u noqdo nin qoladisa u taliya. Somali waligeed is raaci mayso adiguna xabashi laga ma xoreyn karo.

Wiil Cusub;961738 wrote: Read Below the position letter submitted to UNSOM Government of Somaliland Subject: Position letter Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General United Nation, UNSOM 13 June 2013 Dear Ambassador Nicholas Kay, I am grateful for your decision to visit Somaliland at such an early stage in your tenure as Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General. My government hopes that your appointment will result in a further deepening of the cooperation between Somaliland and the United Nations. To facilitate this, we would like to state our positions clearly and to share with you our views on how relations between the UN and Somaliland might best develop. As you know, we are guided by the reality that Somaliland is independent. Our people decided in 1991 to end the voluntary union with Somalia which began in 1960 after we obtained our independence from Britain. That decision was endorsed in a referendum in 2001, and in subsequent general elections, in which our people have voted in favour of parties supporting independence. For the people and government of Somaliland, there is no going back. More importantly, it constitutes a contradiction to our constitution which states we are an independent country We understand that UNSOM's political role is to rebuild a federal Somalia through a comprehensive and integrated international support, while it seeks to open a sub-office in Somaliland. This ignores the reality of Somaliland's existence and functioning as an independent state since 1991 and the self-determination rights of our people. Since the purpose of such an office is to extend the remit of the federal government to Somaliland, my government is of the view that a UNSOM'S presences in Hargeisa will not be in the best interest of our country. Therefore, we can not allow UNSOM'S political office to function in Somaliland. However, we wish to continue engaging with all UN humanitarian and development agencies, whose support to Somaliland's development is much appreciated. We would like to see an increase in UN development assistance in line with Somaliland's National Development Plan. This will allow Somaliland to consolidate its already considerable democratic and institution-building gains. It will also help us to retain ownership over our development path. But we ask that in order to address Somaliland's specific needs adequately, the UN development programs should be managed from Hargeisa not from Mogadishu. UN support for the consolidation of Somali federal government institutions should be undertaken with full consideration of its potential impact on Somaliland. The recent issue over airspace management clearly demonstrates the risks involved in forgoing a holistic, conflict-sensitive approach. We suggest that UNSOM should take all measures to safeguard Somaliland's achievements in accordance with the principle of "do no harm". The Dialogue between Somaliland and Somalia provides a neutral, level playing field for the two governments to discuss cooperation on areas of mutual concern such as security, as well as to clarify their future relations, in accordance with the approach endorsed again at the most recent London Conference. The resumption of bilateral discussions in Ankara on 13 April was also welcomed by the international community at last month's conference, and received strong support in the recent report issued by the UN Secretary-General. Somaliland views the Dialogue as an integral component of international efforts to foster peace and stability in the Horn of Africa. There may come a time when your "good offices" may be needed in order to help us maintain momentum in the Dialogue, and we would welcome your assistance with this. We would like to emphasize that, from our perspective, the purpose of the Dialogue is not to negotiate Somaliland's place in a Somali federal structure. Rather, the Dialogue should proceed in accordance with the terms agreed by the two governments in Ankara, Dubai and Schevening, and must respect the independence of Somaliland. Finally, it is important to clarify that Somaliland views Somalia as a neighbour, and one with which good relations are crucial. Please accept the assurances of my highest consideration. Mohamed A Omar Minister of Foreign Affairs Republic of Somaliland Loud and clear well done Dr bidaar

Whooow British i am scared:D Come on again my friend this guy cannot change anything on the ground he is forced to cooperate with Somaliland on their terms. Or they will be no cooperation. This is not Somalia,we have to be very clear on this. We just need to sort out the Airspace conflict between Somalia and Somaliland. But we will know more early next month when the SL Somalia stalks restart.

How is this bad news , Cigaal from 1996 to 1998 deported the UN Ambassador Stevenson and told him if he ever sees him he would lock him in his dungeon. This is not a complete deportation but simply that the political office will not be opened in SL. What will the UN do take back the ictraaf:D

Cambuulo iyo bun;961447 wrote: Hibaaq is actually an ethnic somalilander as xaaji would say abdow aramram is cadcad from Jowhar dont know about the other guy while the other guy fernando torres is an emotional qabiiliste from puntland just check his youtube channel and his comments :cool: Are u sure she is from Somaliland, how come she never made a song for SL?