Mad_Mullah;961475 wrote: The Habashis always made sure the Somalis were the poorest of all groups as we are their biggest enemy. Oromos are the majority of the country yet they did not create as many problems for the government as the Somalis. ONLF is still around, I think it was one section of it that joined the government, they're trying to consolidate their power from within by taking over the police/secret services etc. All in all good news, if Independence comes we need to have a sound infrastructure. Resistance does not mean Destruction. The oromo peasants are not an Ethnic group they are the Majority because half of them dont know who their father is, Tigray only 7 Million people is more effective. Being in the Millions and the Millions means nothing if you cant enforce anything. Oromo ethnic group needs to be broken down the one in Jimma should adopt sidamo identity the one in wello should become Amhara because 60% of the population dont speak oromo. The one in shoa should become just Amhara and drop the whole we are partly oromo. The borana should become their own distinct group.The Afraan Qalloo in harar should become harari's and learn the Adari language. What is left is arsi and bale oromo, They should remain the original oromos.in a small Territory. Several OG subclans did more damage to Ethiopia than these people you are talking about Mad mullah. You should never view the oromo as one ethnic group because they are not.

Abtigiis is right Jigjiga made some progress it looks oke because of Somali standards but it looks Sh!tty when compared to bahirdar and Mekelle adama

^^ The on the far right shafkay ka barakaysantahay.

^^ Ximan iyo xeeb existed before the government so ximan iyo xeeb is the same as Puntland and Galmudug. Why should the government appoint governors. If there is governance in ximan iyo xeeb.

Madaxweyne iyo Madaxweyne ku xigeen cusub oo kusoo baxay doorashadii Madaxnimo ee Maamulka Ximan iyo Xeeb Khamiis, Juun 13, 2013 (HOL) — Madaxweyne iyo madaxweyne ku xigeen cusub ayaa maanta loo doortay maanta maamulka Ximan iyo Xeeb oo ka tiliya deegaanno ka yaalla bartamaha Soomaaliya, waxaana xubnahan cusub ee la doortay maanta u codeeyay 23-ka xubnood ee baarlamaanka maamulkaas uu ka kooban yahay. Madaxweynaha cusub ee la doortay oo lagu magacaabo, Cabdullaahi Cali Maxamed Kadiye ayaa waxaa la tartamay laba murashax o kale, oo kala ahaa Cismaan Maxamed Cali (Cismaan Dheere) iyo Cali Amiin Sayid Axmed, isagoo codadkiid doorashada oo ahaa kuwo qarsoodi ah ka helay 20-cod, labada murashax ee kale ay kala heleen saddexdii cod ee kale. Sidoo kale, madaxweyne ku xigeenka cusub oo loo doortay Cabdi Maxamed Axmed ayaanay jirin cid la tartantay, isagoo helay 22-cod oo ka mid ahaa 23-kii cod ee xubnaha baarlamaanka maamulkaas, halka codkii kalena uu noqday mid hallaabay. “Waxaan ku faraxsanahay xilka la ii doortay, waxaana ballanqaadayaa inaan ku shaqeyn doono cadaalad, kana shaqeyn doono horumarka deegaannada uu maamulka ka taliyo iyo dadka ku nool,” ayuu yiri madaxweynaha cusub ee maamulka Ximan iyo Xeeb. Labadii murashax ee looga adkaaday doorashada madaxweynenimada oo ka hadlay iyaguna goobta ayaa sheegay inay ku faraxsan yihiin sida uu codku ku dhacay, waxayna xuseen inay u hambalyeynayaan murashaxa la doortay ayna la shaqeyn doonaan. Goobta ay codeyntu ka dhacaysay ayaa waxaa goobjoog ku ahaa Maxamed Aadan Tiiceey oo ahaa madaxweynihii maamulka Ximan iyo Xeeb iyo xubno ka tirsan maamulkiisii, kuwaasoo iyaguna u hambalyeeyay madaxda cusub ee xilka kala wareegaya. Maamulka Ximan iyo Xeeb ayaa ka mid ah maamullada ka jira bartamaha Soomaaliya, inkastoo uusan aqoonsi buuxa ka haysan dowladda Soomaaliya ee cusub, waxaana horay safar ugu tagay madaxweynihii hore ee Somalia, Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Axmed.

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Looks very good thanks for sharing, we see some progress.

Nice songs LOL.

Muqdisho: Askar ka tirsan AMISOM oo gacanta ula tegey taliyaha Ciidanka Booliska Soomaaliya on June 12, 2013 saacidWaxaa maanta ka dhacay magaalada Muqdisho arrin dadku aad ula yaabeen, kadib markii Taliyaha ciidanka Booliska Soomaaliya Gen. Cabdixakim Dahir Siciid (Saacid), laba askeri oo ka tirsan AMISOM ay gacanta ula tageen, isla markaana jajuubeen. Arrintan ayaa ka dhacdey Garoonka Diyaaradaha ee Muqdisho, halkaas oo ay imaanayeen wefdi ka socdey Midowga Yurub oo kulan la qaadanayey Madaxweyne Xassan Shiikh Maxamuud, Gen. Cabdixakim Dahir Siciid (Saacid) ayaa tegey halkaas ka hor Madaxweynaha waxaana uu watey ciidamo hordhac ah oo u eegayey xaaladda amniga. Laba Askeri oo ka tirsan ciidanka AMISOM ayaa u diidey in ay galaan isku day ay damceena si jajuub ah uga soosaarey, waxaana ay u sheegeen in ay halkaas ka taliyaan, isla markaana sinaba ugu oggolaaneyn in ay galaan. Cod maqal ah oo laga duubey fadeexadii maanta ka dhacdey halkaas ayaa la amqlaaya gen.Saacid oo ku dhawaaqaya in uu yahay Taliyaha ciidanka Booliska, sidoo kale waxaa isla codka laga maqlaayaa iyaga oo dhahaya ciidankayaga oo dhan ayaan la baxaynaa, ha itaaban iyo erayo kale. Wararka aan helayno ayaa sheegaya in saraakiil ka tirsan AMISMO ay soo dhexgaleen arrinta mar danbe taliyaha loo fasaxay in uu galo isla markaana su’aalo la weydiinayo labadii askeri ee falkan la yaabka leh kula kacay Taliyaha Booliska Soomaaliya. Xukuumadda federaalka ah iyo Xildhibaano ayaa horey uga qaylin jirey AMISOM-ta joogta Kismaayo, waxaana ay isticmaali jireen erayo ah Kismaayo waa dhul Soomaali kadib markii garoonka lagu celiyey, waxaase hadda laga hadlaayo waa caasimaddii dalka oo lagu xumeynaayo sarkaalkii u sareeyey ciidanka Booliska. Dhegayso codka maanta laga duubey:

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Apophis freeing the pirates even gave up, your mentors in Kismayo lol

There is allot of resources in Somaliland , we have to wait and see when he arrives. Apophis you are forgetting Somaliland controls much and much more land than the habro lands LOOL.

Watch the program here,the man is determined to go to Somaliland to when asked that he should consider Kenya. He believes Nigeria will be divided to in the near future. http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/witness/2013/05/2013528142234495531.html

“To get to the area, one needs an escort from the right clan and permission from the Ministry of Water and Minerals. Because of the mistrust and suspicion among the inhabitants, it is difficult to get to the gem bearing areas,” Dr Kinnaird said. Sapphire occurs in nodules on the surface. The nodules appear as lumpy bumps of corundum, and when cracked open, expose the sapphire. Nodules on the surface produce a more greenish blue sapphire, but nice blue sapphire is being mined from greater depths within the rock. The deposits in Somaliland are different from those in other African countries such as Tanzania and Nigeria where both sapphire and ruby occur together. In Somaliland, ruby and sapphire are found separately. GARNET, OPAL AND QUARTZ Dr Kinnaird said the most abundant mineral in Somaliland is garnet. “Everywhere I went there were garnets by the bucket loads – garnets in varying sizes and colours from red to orange, grossular garnet, pyrope and almandine garnets. When polished, they are clean and beautiful. “When I showed Tsavorite garnet from Kenya to some miners, they said they had seen green garnet and took me to see their green garnet. The rock formations resemble the Kenyan area bearing Tsavorite garnet. We found a few tiny crystals. The larger green crystals which they believed to be green garnet turned out to be a minty green vesuvianite.” Dr Kinnaird said in the places she went, people showed her crystals and wanted her to help identify the stones. “One of them was my driver who brought me orange to yellow opal which did not have a good play of colour. I have also seen nice reddish material with a good colour play and it seems that there is an abundant supply of opal in the country. “When I first saw the opal specimens, I thought because they looked like the opal from Ethiopia they might occur as nodules in rhyolite. However, some of the opal appears in gypsum and anhydrite strata near the coast of Berbera, although the opal from the west of the country may still come from lava.” Dr Kinnaird said Somaliland has an abundant supply of a variety of quartz. She said an area to the west of Darbuuruq was mined in 1977 and 1978 and a Bulgarian company extracted some 200 tonnes of rock crystals of high purity and clarity. There is also a variety of smoky quartz, often banded, as well as a good quantity of amethyst in deep purple. Dr Kinnaird said there is production of red spinel and tourmaline in dark green and pink watermelon type, which the miners initially mistaken as alexandrite. An abundance of zircon, nice crystals of colourless topaz, blue and green vesuvianite, rarer titanite as well as apple green apatite occurs in abundance in the emerald-bearing localities. She said many thought the quartz was diamond and it requires a lot to explaining that there are no diamonds in Somaliland.

Somaliland: Minerals and gemstones discoveries in Somaliland Recent geological surveys indicate that Somaliland has abundant deposits of gemstones, from emerald to aquamarine, ruby and sapphire as well as vast amounts of garnet, quartz and opal as well as lesser-known minerals such as titanite and vesuvianite. In addition to pegmatite, which are the host rocks of emerald and other kinds of beryl such as aquamarine, Somaliland has metamorphic rocks that hold nodules of ruby and sapphire.There is little understanding of its mineral deposits but villagers in Somaliland use primitive tools to dig out a range of gemstones that they offer for sale to dealers locally. When aid officials at the European union (EU) office in the country’s capital, Hargeisa, first saw the gemstones, they believed they had been stolen from graves. To determine whether these stones came out of the ground or stolen from graves, EC invited a consultant geologist and gemmologist from the University of Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa, Dr Judith Kinnaird, to investigate. Dr Kinnaird visited the country twice in the past two years. In addition to identifying gem minerals in the country, she helps local miners distinguish among similar coloured minerals and is working with Progressive Interventions supported by EU funding to help set up a gemmological association and marketing channels for Somaliland’s mineral resources. The following report was compiled by Jewellery News Asia’s contributing editor, Jennifer Henricus from a presentation made by Dr Kinnaird at the annual conference of the Gemmological Association of Great Britain in London and from an interview with Dr Kinnaird. Somaliland is part of the Mozambique belt and prior to the continental drift 900 million years ago, was in the same area as Madagascar, Tanzania, Sri Lanka and India, Dr Judith Kinnaird said. Somaliland has the similar type of gem minerals as these other well-known gem-bearing countries but gem deposits have only recently been discovered. Recovery of gemstones, carried out in a primitive and haphazard manner, has been done only since 1988, Dr Kinnaird said. The gem-producing belt is a fairly narrow strip located in a zone of rocks roughly parallel to the Gulf of Aden and is between 30 and 80 kilometres wide, 200 to 300 kilometres long. The country was a British protectorate from 1886 until it became independent in 1960 and five days later became part of Somalia, a former Italian colony. In 1982 civil war broke out and lasted for nine years, but the country is still trying to recover from the ravages of this war. “Access to gem deposits is difficult. The debris from the war remains: roads suffered extremely, bridges have been bombed out. Getting to many of the mineral locations involves a bone-shaking journey,” Dr Kinnaird said. The terrain in Somaliland is varied including high mountains and beaches along the Gulf of Aden. Temperatures are sub-Saharan, up to 50 degrees Celsius in summer on the coast, she said. EMERALD The country has two known emerald producing areas, one at Alihiley and another at Simodi in western Somaliland, Dr Kinnaird said. Emerald deposits occur at the contact of two rock types: where large granite-like pegmatite comes in contact with softer black schist. Dr Kinnaird explained: “Two types of rock are necessary to form emerald. To give the emerald its green colour, the beryl needs to be in contact with chromium-bearing rock or, in some cases, vanadium, and this colouring agent comes from schist because pegmatite has no chromium. “Occasionally little fingers of pegmatite go out into the schist and the best emerald rough is in these fingers. Because the schist is softer than pegmatite, most of the exploration work has been in the schist, which is easier to mine. As a result, the miners were going away from the emerald.” She said in most of the emerald rough she examined there is quite patchy colour development, and the very well developed crystals have a dark green outer layer and a paler or yellowish green core. Dr Kinnaird said the Simodi area has enormous potential: pegmatite is abundant and is visible in white streaks across the hillsides and on several occasions large clumps of emerald or beryl of other colours have been found. “The pegmatite in Simodi is located in remote area and it took us six hours to cover 50 miles, with the last two hours spent on foot through the mountains.” Local miners have recently re-started mining with 200 men working the area after a long period of absence. “They are working on only one pegmatite. Pits were dug in a haphazard manner initially in 1988 during the civil war. The precarious pits will sooner or later become the cause of accidents. I hope to return to Somaliland and try to help organise the mining in the area. The instability of the slopes is aggravated by torrential rain as well as slight earth tremors as the Gulf of Aden is widening.” She said mining is extremely difficult and painstakingly slow because people do not have the proper equipment. “Rock breaking is done by hammer and chisel while waste is extracted and thrown up by hand in small pans. They have a local saying ‘everybody must put their hands to work’. “As mining started only recently, gem material is not available in large amount. But inevitably out of every pocket and hut comes some material. Some nice-quality emerald is being mined and people are managing to sell, though in an amateur manner.” Dr Kinnaird said Alihiley too has some emerald-bearing pegmatite and this is the only place in Somaliland where any sort of mechanical equipment is used. “These miners were the proud owners of a compressor.” She said she had some stones cut and the colour and quality is good. AQUAMARINE AND OTHER BERYLS To the east of the emerald gem belt in western Somaliland, the gemstones occur still in pegmatite and they can be seen as white criss-crossing bodies on the hillside. In this eastern part, miners are working on pegmatite with aquamarine, Dr Kinnaird said. “Because the pegmatite has intruded into a granite rock, it does not have chromium to give the beryls the green colour. Instead, the presence of iron or titanium gives forth the blue or blue green colours of aquamarine.” Dr Kinnaird said the aquamarine crystals in the area are quite large. “I have seen crystals up to one metre long, but the crystals are mostly characterised with cracks. The local miners thought they were actually creating the cracks because of the lack of proper tools. It was a surprise to them to realise that a lot of the material is originally cracked although the lack of proper equipment does add to cracks and fractures.” However, it is possible to produce nice polished of good colour from these crystals, she said. There have been reports of yellow beryl or heliodor also being mined in the area as well. RUBY AND SAPPHIRE Ruby and sapphire occur in the gemstone belt, in metamorphic rock instead of pegmatite. A nice bright red ruby, similar to ruby from Longido in Tanzania, has been found in a metamorphic rock. The ruby occurs as core of red corundum together with green zoisite. Getting to the ruby deposits in the Molis area is difficult, Dr Kinnaird said. “The usual mode of transport for food and goods in the area is on camel back. In addition, residents in the area treat outsiders with great suspicion, which is a legacy of the civil war. People in the area belong to different clans and are suspicious of people from other clans.

Maraykanka iyo Reer Yurub oo u baratamaya Iibsiga Dhulka Dihin ee South Sudan iyo Somaliland posted by Maxamuud Jama | June 12, 2013 | In Waaheen News, WMG Editorial togdheer sss“Waxaan doonayaa dhul aan Iibsado oo Somaliland ama Koonfurta Sudaan ah Kiiniya ma doonayo waliba waxaan xiisaynayaa Somaliland” Phil Helberg Maal-qabeen Maraykan ah Telefishanka Aljazeera ee xaruntiisu tahay dalka Qatar ayaa habeen hore barnaamijkiisa The Witness wuxuu ka sii daayey barnaamij cajiib ah oo layaableh, barnaamijkaasi oo la magac baxay “Our Man In Sudan” oo ah ninkayagii Sudan. Barnaamijku wuxuu ku saabsanaa sida tujaarta iyo dilaaliinta maraykanka iyo dalalka kale ee reer galbeedku ay uga shaqeeyeen sidii ay dalka Koonfurta Sudan xornimo uga heli lahayd Sudan ta kale iyagoo ujeedada koobaad ee ay ka lahaayeen ahayd sidii ay u iibsan lahaayeen dhulka ku qaniga ah macdanta, shiidaalka, beeraha iyo dahabka ee dhulka koonfurta Sudan. Haddaba mid ka mid ah nimankaasi tujaarta ah oo hore u ahaan jiray Bangiyahan weyn oo haysta lacag balaayiin dollar ah oo la yidhaahdo Phil Helberg oo dhalashadiisu tahay dalka maraykanka ayaa ka mid ah nimankaasi iyagu dhulka hore uga iibsaday dalka Koonfurta Sudan. Wuxuu barnaamijkani ka samaynaya filim ninkaasi oo imanaya Juba caasimadda koonfurta Sudan isla markaana ku daba jooga in si rasmi ah ay wasiiradda Koonfurta Sudan ugu saxeexan inuu dhulka hantiyo, waxaana dawladda uga mukhalas ah nin Janaraal ah oo hore u ahaan jiray hogaamiye kooxeed haddana laga dhigay taliye ku xigeenka ilaaladda madaxweynaha dalka koonfurta Sudan Silva Kier. Arrinta cajiibka leh ee barnaamijkani ayaa ah in ninkani Bilyaneerka ah ee Phil Helberg oo ka mid ahaa ragii qaybta libaax ka qaatay in koonfurta Sudan ka go’do Sudan si uu dantiisa uga fushado ayaa waxaa u imanaya mar nin Mukhalas ah oo ay is dhaafsanayaan baayactan dhuleed wuxuuna ku odhanaya mukhalasku Phil Berg “inteed ka shaqaynaysay hawlaha shiidaalka iyo macdanta, wuxuuna ugu jawaabay anigu waxaan ku jiray noloshayda oo dhan, laakiin waxaa jira dad nala shaqeeya oo ilaa 35 sanno ku jiray” dabadeed ninka mukhalaska ah ayaa ku odhanaya “ka waran waxaan ku haya dhul weyn oo qanni ku ah macdanta kobarta (copper) dalka Kenya”, Dabadeed ninkani taajirka ah ee Phil Berg ayaa ku jawaabaya “maya Kenya dooni maayo waxaan doonayaa halkani Koonfurta Sudan ama Somaliland, haddii aad ka hayso diyaar ayaan u ahay”. Ninka mukhalaska ah ayaa u sharaxaya Phil dhulkaasi haddana Phil ayaa ugu jawaabaya “dhulkaad ka hadlaysaa ma Somaliland ayuu ku yaalla” mukhalaska ayaa ku jawaabaya “maya waa Kenya” dabadeed Phil ayaa ku odhanaya “Maya Somaliland ayaan aad u xiisaynayaa” Barnaamijka qaybtiisa labaad todobaadka danbe oo Aljazeera soo dayn doonto ayuu Phil wuxuu tagaya Hargeysa oo uu sidani oo kale doonayo in dhul shiidaal ku jiro iibsado la soco.

Dalkaaga, halkeen dalkayga ku cayey.

No war absolutely no war ever again do you know how many lives were lost during the wars. Eventually both Somalia and Somaliland will be losers and generations will be lost. No development will take place in the entire regions heaven forbid have we not seen enough of wars. There will absolutely no winner in a war we will be both broken destroyed and generations after will be ruined for good to. In 1993 i visited Somaliland i never thought Somaliland could be rebuild again. Imagine being in war again. Lets not waste our resources, qof inaga dhinta ma karayno, every person counts.Salax Somalia are also Somaliland brothers they might be a bit irresponsible and do not know how to deal with situations but they are Somaliland closest brothers and sisters.

warsamaale;961283 wrote: let me ask you the same question ? no ictiraaf, khatumo broke away from your clan project for good, economy is bad, human resource in the triangle is below the rest of somalia and the killer app: no more al shabaab for you. its very sad for you xaaji Ictraaf or no ictraaf , you have ictraaf and look at Somalia its not like ictraaf made Somalia a functioning state, there is no peace and 3rd world countries are undermining your country and even IGADs words are more valued than your own government. Khatumo was first part of the pirate enclave did we notice them was it even a problem did it stop Somaliland So how can khatumo break away from SL when they were first with the pirates before 2007. Not that they are going any where they are still their eastern village with no support coming from Somalia, or any other region. Khatumo is just like ssc , and they will head towards their capital. Somalilands economy has a long way to go but its making some progress the private sector is booming and investments are taking place the livestock trade is making lots of revenue. And there will be oil drilling next year. Its just a matter of time until Somaliland starts manufacturing, not to forget to modernize the Somaliland sea ports. Alshabaab was never a Somaliland problem but a Somalia problem , Somaliland has the chance that every Somalilander can live the good. Now compare where your Somalia is heading in the next coming years, you lot have actually killed your own country, the government is about to be confined in a small territory by the opposing Tribes.Unless it retaliates and takes control but that it self will take a long struggle and wasted resources and time wasted. Former Alshabaab members are now your hero's. I think you are in a much more difficult position than Somaliland. But i dont think you have a problem with that

Qaadoba Somalidom eeh what do you have to show for:D

Nuune Budhlayn waxay cunaan kaluul iyo waxas Somali galbeed na wa aan u ogalahay dhaqanka na waxa gaadhsiiye the afro hashimites.

Hilib iyo caano geel thats our culture

They cant leave you alone thats impossible, see in Somalia many have lost hope. seeing Somaliland one day returning to Somalia gives them hope. You want to take away their hope, if Somaliland was recognized few years ago , i doubt there would be a government today in Somalia. Burahadeer see the Koonfurians do not think like Somalilanders. They would destroy each other use kenyans Ethiopian Ugandans Afghans but still claim Nationalists protecting the nation. Even the word Somalinimo has been abused and overused and even raped , because every one talks about it no one actually knows what the true definition of Somalinimo is and what it stands for. But you want to keep Somalinimo alive as some sort of cultural identity that bonds Somali speaking all over the horn, This is a beautiful thing but this impossible Burahadeer for atleast a few decades because there are Somalis who want to see you trapped. But i dont think you should focus to much on the Koonfurians they are harmless just watch them carefully what they do. As for the Ignoble xabashis they have other problems to worry about like the Nile Conflict Muslim protests in Addis ababa ethnic movements but do not touch their Enjeera, waxaas la isku ma cuno. There is little they can do to help our case. The best thing we can get from the Xabashis if we ask the TPLF regime in addis ababa if they buy Military hard ware tanks in their name and we buy it from them. Particularly T90 tanks and couple of Merkava Type one tanks.

^I have been asking my self that 2 there is absolutely no threat coming from Somalia The news is fake i doubt the TPLF even said that.

Xassan does not support Khatumo he has never mentioned the word khatumo ever , ofcourse he can meet diaspora Somalis where ever in Kenya in Dubai from any clan. this is a normal thing . But it has no political relevancy other than for hassan to win Somali Kenyans to support his government instead of the Kenyan initiative.