Somaliland: Recent Attacks On UN In Somalia Spur Secession Talks The recent bombing of a UN compound in Mogadishu has increased Somaliland’s drive for independence. Below is an article published by The Africa Report: A senior Somaliland politician has condemned the tragic terror attack on a UN compound in Mogadishu, but says it strengthens claims for secession from Somalia. Mohamed Omar, the breakaway state's foreign minister, says that Wednesday's bomb-and-ground-assault [19 June 2013] by Al Shabaab should prompt the international community to rethink its vision for a united Somalia, while stressing the need to be 'vigilant' of the spread of Islamism across the Horn of Africa. The attack left at least 13 dead including four foreigners. Wednesday's attack is the latest blow to harmony in Somalia's troubled capital, despite its government receiving recognition by the US and International Monetary Fund last year. Some 18,000 African Union forces are stationed in Mogadishu. But Al Shabaab, a terror group with close ties to Al Qaeda, still controls vast swathes of land around the city, enforcing its strict interpretation of Sharia on millions of Somalis. Somaliland, whose own armed forces number some 35,000, has remained relatively peaceful since car bombs in Hargeisa and Bosaso, a port city in neighbouring Puntland, claimed 29 lives in 2008. The breakaway state remains unrecognised despite Somalia's fragility. "An effective Somali government is the best way to fight the disease of Al Shabaab," said Omar. "The tragic events in Mogadishu show how difficult this is." Despite reports of skirmishes between Somaliland forces and Al Shabaab in the state's easternmost reaches, and that Al Shabaab leader Ahmed Godane hails from the capital city, Hargeisa, Omar feels that Somaliland is containing the threat of terrorism. However, the minister claims that a united Somalia would draw Somaliland into violence such as Wednesday's. "Thank God our youth are not turning to Al Shabaab. We are not at war. If recognition was based on security we would have recognition. However we must remain vigilant, always looking out. "If we join Somalia, we become the target. We hope the international community will rethink its position on Somaliland in light of these tragic events." - See more at: http://www.unpo.org/article/16098#sthash.5kkIk3S5.dpuf

You mean like this guy we can take down any tribe in Somalia let the foreigners leave lool " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>

Maan fahmin slaanta cisbitaal ba la dhigay markay Puntland amaantay marka calashaan sidee ma mid HAG a ba feedhay mise way iska xanuunsatay Osman bal sheekada ino faah faahi.

IsseRiyole;963334 wrote: War Xaaji X, i am way confused which way to Ride you, what on earth areyou talking about when you are saying Mixed Clan States? first of all each and every one of state is mixed however you looked but the point is if one Region decides to rule themself so let it be , it is clear that the Old Somali you knew will not come back in its original state for sure.so whatever is left must be worked it out. Why afraid to see each Region Rule themself? i can't comprehend those of you who are so adamant against Federalism? Muqdisho need to realize and get serious ,welcoming Foregin donors is not the answer to resolve the core issue, accepting Federalism is the first and the last step,if they can't pass that road then no point of talking to anyone. The way i see Alshabab will do better then the current Rag Holligans. I just told you why they are against it thats not persay my opinion i believe clan federalism should be given a chance and see if it works or not lets try it for now. When i said Mix is the states will be exclusively one tribe. And some want to mix the regions for example Jubbaland should unite with bay and bakool and the lower shabelle. So that the state is more diverse something that in that order. Well atleast thats how Mogadishu want it.

^^^HAG are not against federalism they just dont want clan federalism they want mixed clan states. But still with a strong federal govt that controls the regions. They are against autonomous states

Faisal said , that President hassan rather resigns as president than to accept Ahmed madoobe's Jubbaland

Getting Smuggled Into Somaliland in Somaliland Travel Blog, Travel Blogs It really felt like we were being smuggled into a country territory that is deeply misunderstood by the entire world. We left Addis Ababa, the capital of Ethiopia, at a shockingly good time (at 5.28, roughly 2 minutes before we had to leave at 5.30). What was even funnier is the advertisement on the bus that said “Young Man Bus, German Technology, Chinese Price” which sounds about right in this part of the world. It was a refreshing change of pace after getting used to the wonderful delays with African transportation. Even when I flew from Madagascar I was able to win a bet because I was the only one that knew that we weren’t leaving on time. A 6 hour layover turned into a 2 layover because the plane was “surprisingly” late. Luckily, Kenya Airways was nice enough to give us sandwiches, a bread sandwich to be exact. Ethiopian Customs Somaliland Yes that’s right.. this is the customs at the border We arrived at the bus station, better known as the side of the road, in Jijiga, Ethiopia at roughly 4pm. I was able to find the best hotel in the city through a contact for the expensive price of $20 a room. Being a Muslim hotel, we were informed of their #1 rule, a marriage certificate is required for couples staying in the same room. I was fortunately traveling with another straight man so the only documentation we had to provide were our passports. I wonder if the same rule would have applied if we told them we were actually gay and happened to be partners. Who doesn’t love Cher anyway? After we befriended some locals and ate at a local restaurant we laid on our beds at the Hamdu hotel which felt like the floor of a wrestling ring. The mattresses were stiffer than the day after bread in Europe. For those of you that haven’t been to Europe, bread is made fresh daily and if you don’t eat it the same day it turns into a rock due to the lack of preservatives. We were eating at the hotel restaurant when it happened. The man sitting across from us was clearly Somali by the looks of the bottom part of his goatee. He corrected us when we tried to order a Coke and say thank you and as the conversation continued he invited us to his table. Somaliland Customs, Somaliland Customs office The Somaliland Customs office Later we realized we were talking to the personal advisor to the Somaliland president and one of the men that engineered the Somaliland revolution. We spoke for roughly 20 minutes before being thrown out of the restaurant. I tried to pay for the meal but they informed us it was already paid for by the man with the awesome beard. After meeting a few Somali’s Somalilanders, I have started to realize that they are as polite and inviting as Colombians, Israelis, and Zambians. After waking up the next day we were very excited to encounter our adventure crossing into no man’s land. The self declared state of Somaliland isn’t recognized by anyone in the world but many countries are ready to recognize the new state Israel, Kenya, Ethiopia have all stated this publicly). We found a small cafe in the hotel compound and sat down to have some of the best coffee in the world. Ironically, the same Somalilander man that we met the night before walks up to the cafe. Somaliland License Somaliland License We invite him to sit with us and insist on buying his coffee since he paid for our dinner the night before. We have a great conversation with him and he writes down some Somali Arabic phrases for us to remember. As the conversation continued he invited us to ride with him. Since the cars were full we rode in the very back of the 4×4, after making a nice castle of luggage we eventually felt like we were being smuggled in to the country. We passed 3 checkpoints before arriving to the Ethiopian border and the faces of the security personnel were priceless. It’s as if they expected to see us sitting in the front of vehicle and everyone else in the back. It was a great experience that would lead into one of many unique experiences in the territory of Somaliland. After we were dropped off we looked at each other and said, “we were just smuggled into the country by the president’s personal advisor”, what a great way to start the trip.

Somalia's Islamist Shebab, a still-powerful force Friday, June 21, 2013 Al-Qaeda linked Shebab are still a powerful force, as a recent suicide attack on a Mogadishu UN compound shows. Somalia's Al-Qaeda linked Shebab insurgents have been forced from almost all key towns by African Union forces, fighting alongside Somali government troops and other militia opposed to the extremists. But the fighters remain a powerful force in Somalia, demonstrating their ability to strike at the heart of the most secure areas in the country by their brazen daylight attack on a key United Nations compound on Wednesday. The seven-man suicide commando, first using car bombs and suicide attacks to blast their way into the compound before starting a gun battle to the death, followed similar bloody tactics used in April, when they attacked a Mogadishu court house. The coordinated attack on the UN killed 11, while 34 died in the raid on the courthouse. Somalia's capital has been hit by a series of attacks including suicide and car bombings, mortar attacks and shootings, ever since the Shebab abandoned fixed frontline positions in Mogadishu almost two years ago. The Shebab, meaning "youth" in Arabic, emerged out of the bitter insurgency fighting Ethiopia, whose troops entered Somalia in a 2006 US-backed invasion to topple the Islamic Courts Union that was then controlling the capital Mogadishu. They impose their own radical version of Islamic law, including dress regulations and public mutilations, on the parts of the country they control. They have also imposed draconian restrictions on foreign aid agencies operating in their zones, bans that saw them accused of exacerbating southern Somalia's devastating 2011-2012 famine. Long active mainly in southern and central Somalia, large swathes of territory have been wrested from them by the 17,000-AU force fighting alongside government troops. Ethiopian troops, who again invaded in late 2011 and who cooperate with AU troops, are also battling the Shebab. Two key bastions fell in 2012: in February, the central town of Baidoa was seized by Ethiopian and Somali troops, while in October, Kenyan troops took the southern port of Kismayo. The United States has offered multi-million dollar bounties for several top leaders, including $7 million for commander Ahmed Abdi Godane, and $5 million for Afghan-trained leader Mukhtar Robow as well also for two US citizens fighting with the Shebab. But the group is riven by multiple factions, some based along regional and clan lines, as well as ideological, with some attracted by a nationalist agenda to oust foreigners from Somalia, and others with international jihadi ambitions. Given their scattered and fractured forces, it is hard to estimate the group's numbers. Several foreign fighters have fought in the Shebab, many of ethnic Somali descent. Key strongholds include rural southern and central Somalia, while another faction has dug into remote parts of the northern Puntland region, in the rugged Golis mountains.

No stability in sight for Somalia The entrance of the UNDP office where the suicide bomb attack took place - Photo: AFP Friday, June 21, 2013 The international community had hoped that Somalia would soon stabilize. But the recent attack on a UN compound shows that the security situation is still precarious and the terrorist militia al-Shabab is still active. In early May this year, the United Nations passed a resolution to support Somalia by sending in up to 200 experts to advise the government and local authorities. The aim was to stabilize the security situation in the country. At the time, security expert Ahmed Abdi Hassan, a former senior official with the national security forces, expressed the hope that "the resolution would help the Somali government to improve its security situation." But the United Nations' additional forces could not prevent Wednesday's (19.06.2013) suicide bombing at the United Nations Development Program (UNDP) building in the Somali capital, Mogadishu that killed 15 people, including four foreign nationals. South African arms manufacturer Denel confirmed that two of its employees were killed in the attack. The recent attack on a UN compound has dampened the euphoria in Somalia Via Twitter, al-Shabab claimed responsibility for the attack. In an interview with the German Press Agency (dpa), the newly appointed UN Special Envoy to Somalia, Nicholas Kay, condemned the attack as a "desperate attempt to derail Somalia from its course towards reconstruction and peace." Earlier, 34 people were killed on 14 April 2013, in a series of coordinated suicide attacks. The UN Special Envoy for Somalia at the time, Augustine Mahiga, warned then of further "terror attacks" by al-Shabab. The security situation was also the main topic at the Somalia conference in London in early May, a conference which was also overshadowed by an attack aimed at a high level delegation from Qatar. Spirit of optimism dampened The attacks are part of the asymmetric form of warfare, with which the Somali al-Qaeda splinter group al-Shabab (Arabic for "the boys") is trying to discredit the new government of President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud. After his victory over transitional President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed (widely regarded as corrupt) in September 2012, the new president has addressed a number of burning issues in the country. His priority list includes building institutions based on the rule of law, establishing a powerful army and police, fighting corruption and increasing public security. This has been well received by his local partners. A clear sympathy bonus for the engineer and later university dean is the fact that he has no political background, unlike the usual representatives of the Somali political class. However, as a member of the influential ****** ethnic group, he knows how clan leaders can be an indispensable instrument of power in a country dominated by ethnic loyalties. Mohamud's new prime minister Abdi Farah Shirdon Saaid is also a close ally, which raises hope that in this new government there will be no wrangling between the president and prime minister. The new government is regarded positively by Somalis in the diaspora. Many Somalis who lived in the US, UK and neighboring Kenya are now returning home. Some have given up well-paid jobs and a secure existence in order to come back and help in the reconstruction of their home country or establish business connections. The few airlines that fly to Mogadishu are fully booked for weeks in advance. The legendary beaches of Mogadishu, once dubbed the "Pearl of the Indian Ocean" by Italians, are once again open for bathing. The shrill tones of mobile phones, strictly prohibited by al-Shabab militias, can be heard again. But attacks like the one on the UN office are dampening the euphoria in the country. Moreover, "the progress that one would wish to see, has failed to materialize," says Markus Hoehne from the Max Planck Institute in Halle. According to Hoehne, this is not surprising, especially when you look at the difficult situation that Somalia has been going through. He sees merely "baby steps towards a possible stabilization of Somalia." Annette Weber, from the Institute for International and Security Affairs in Berlin and a long-time observer of Somalia, agrees. "The main dilemma of the Mogadishu government is the fact that it exists only in Mogadishu and it has no influence in other areas of the country," Weber told DW. It is crucial, she says, that the central government should extend its authority, mainly to southern Kismayu, the former stronghold of al-Shabab. Source: Deutsche Welle (DW)

Technically Mogadishu is not the capital the constitution does not say that Mogadishu is the capital, so these old men can say that Mogadishu belongs to their clan until the constitutions defines the Capital city of the country.

Somalis are each other worse enemies.

^ Nothing wrong with visiting Mogadishu, not sure about migrating but people can visit Mogadishu, its a very nice city and i am planning to visit the place soon to U act if JB went to garowe ama meelo kale.

Rahima is the only honest real honest person on these boards and tells what is wrong all of them are qabiliste but they blame each other to be qabiliste lool. Noolow Rahima.

Jubbaland:D

By the way safaaradaha manay 4.5 ahayn how can HAG dominate these posts? Mise 4.5 Ma laga booday?

Abtigiis;963171 wrote: very bad move! appointing your own clansmen to key diplomatic posts suggests you do not trust others. While Ahmed will not change Ethiopian position on Somalia, this appointment will damage Hassan Sheikh. I don't know who is advising the President. Ambassadors in Kenya, Ethiopia and London, all from the President's clan makes one wonder why the President can't find men and women who can be trusted from other clans. Similar what General Afweyne used to do Tolku ha qadeyo eeh daa Abtigiis be honest with your self the govt is fighting Jubbaland autonomous states who might get support from Ethiopia and Kenya. He needs to have a trusted diplomats in the neighboring countries. By the way they were appointed by the Prime Minister

The capital city belongs to a clan , Xamar unukka leh:D But i dont really blame them Detoore Osman believes Bosaaso belongs to the Kings lol

War is ilaali safiir iyo calilahayne eh.

brainblaster456;963103 wrote: Hargeisa would be less of a shanty looking, well Infrastructure and organised if the city was controlled by National government. i Hope for you u are talking about Somaliland national government. Somalia's governments only destroyed Hargeisa

Long live H town Allahu Akbar The founders of the Old Herer can smile in their grave their descendants completely transformed Hargeisa We have still some work to do when it comes to city planning but the city is expanding and expanding and keep on building We shall succeed God willing

Well he constructed more schools hospitals roads than the government so he can be considered a leader of Somalia.

The question is will Ethiopia listen to Ahmed diiriye or will they support Jubbaland and jeopardize their relations with Mogadishu i think the Ethiopians will make some promises to Ahmed madoobe but will not make it official. As for Nuune in Somalia there is no dominating factor no one won the civil war other African countries some one wins the civil war and becomes the new elites. This didn't happen in Somalia the opposite actually happened in Somalia. Somalia remains a society broken by zerosum tribal politics Militant Islamism and poverty.