Asha hagi wonderful woman mashallah

Mafia;966175 wrote: It resulted the loss of the lives of many many innocent people, which as Somalis, should all touch and sadden us, but at the heart of it, this wasn't a clandestine operation targeted at one tribe/people. The government was trying to subdue a militia that was vying to overthrow them by force. No one wins in a war. More people were killed/forced out by the bullet that followed in the South than in Somaliland. Who is responsible for those lives? USC and SNM mainly. USC was not a government the Kacaan regime was a government claiming to protect the people of Somaliland they shelled residential areas in Somaliand carpet bombed the city and 95% of the people of hargeisa fled to Ethiopia. How can you claim to protect the people you are forcing to flee from their homes. Even lets say they were not targeting a specific tribe . How do you explain the jazeera massacre in Mogadishu do you think SNM was operating in Mogadishu in 1989. Why were they targeting ethnic Somalilandish people in the heart land of the capital? USC was a rebel movement they did not claim to be a government for all Somalis they were just a clan organization. But when your own government declares you enemy state you know there is something wrong.

Naxar Nugaaleed;966164 wrote: Which one of this people got elected by a 500 member parliament Xaaji or came about thanks nearly year of reconciliation talks. Or are naive enough to give credence to fools who declared themselves president and were soundly defeated? We can say madoobes elections was not all inclusive even it had not the blessings of the SFG, the members who declared them selves president were stake holders of the region. And they were dissatisfied of how things were going. its better if a state is going to be created in those regions all stakeholders are included. Also the government must be involved with the coordination and facilitating the state building of the new state and together with the indigenous people of those regions set up a state along with the approval of the Parliament committee. Right now it is just being viewed one clan forming a state at the expense of the others. Also before a state can be established there should be proper reconciliation between the various communities there.

Nuune qiiq ha isku qarin Axmed madoobe waad la jirta ceeb maha inad la jirtid Axmed madoobe. Dowlada waad ka so horjeeda wan garan kara sabab iyadu Jubbaland Axmed madoobe wato ma ogala. Anigu cidna dagaal lama jeclin laakin dagaal wu dhaca because kooxaha meesha jooga ba is khilafsan khilaafka xaajigu ma keenin. kenya cadaabta lama rabtid eeh naga daa Nuune sawdigi Kenya maalin dhawayd joogay lol War kikuyadu yanay ku arkin. Dagaalka sida looga hortagi karo ka fakir maxaad adigu xal u aragta Kismayo?

Nuune naga daa hoostaad kala xiidhisantahay axmed madoobe wa caadi waad u ducayn karta in mamuulkisa hirgalo inadan dhex dhexaad ahayn alleh wa ogyahay anana wa ogahay, Anigu inta badan kheyr baan sheega laakin doodu inta badan waxay ku fiicantahay topic markay conflict jiro Abtigiis ba fahansan. Nuune adigu waxad rabta in Kenya iyo Axmed madoobe kismayo loo daayo oo ay iyagu u taliyaan dabeedna gabbal iyo kooxdisa gabbalku u dhaco waan ogahay taas. Xiinfaniin ba arinta kugu raacsan markaas taas dhex dhexaad maha. Kosovo wa wadan wanaagsan ilahay ha barakayo Ictraaf na wan u baryaya inshallah.

^^ Ma wax aan run ahayn baan sheegay Kismayo wala isku dilay kooxo hubeysan oo madaxweynayaal sheegtey ba isku dilay. Sax heavy weapons were involved oo kenya hubkoodi ba meesha dhex mushaxaya tasina wa run. Kismayo 1991 Caydiid qabsay oo laga qabsay Gabyow qabsay oo laga qabsay Moorgen Qabsay oo laga qabsay Barre hiiraale qabsay oo laga qabsay maxakiim qabsay oo laga qabsay, Cabdilahi Yusuf qabsay oo laga qabsay. Amiir Godane Qabsay oo laga qabsay. Kenya/Axmed madobe Qabsay oo laga qabsay. Barre hiiraale qabsay oo laga qabsay.

Horta nuune topica korkisa eeg waxa ku qoran cabas oo u diyaar garoobay inu weeraar ku qaado Kismayo isagu col wata , meesha iyado dagaal la isu hub urursanyo baad leedahay xaajiyo waxad ka hadasha waagi anu beeraha wada falan jirnay. Iyo in ay tolku is jecelyihin iyo wax kalo oo aan lo joogin. Marka bal i sheeg waxa qalad eeh aan qoray oo aan ahayn inan sadaaliyey sida la isaga so horjeedo. Ileen meeshu wa dood iyo ka hadal strategy iyo waxyalo kalo badan. Anigu inta badan nbada baan la jecelahay geeska africa oo dhan. Iyo barwaaqo laakin wuxu xaajigu jecelyahay inta badan ma dhacdo sabab anigu xaaji kaliyaan ahay. Malayaanin kale ba jooga. Laakin been ha iga sheegin waligay maan odhan hebel wax bu qabsaday oo meel bu qabsaday. Xitaha kooxa ma kala tageero. Siday wax u jiraan uun baan sheegey. Nuune beryahan aad baad u cadheysantahay war yaan laga garan. Ama mamuulku wu idin hirgali ama idin hirlgali mayo mar kalaad tijaabin doonta, Inkastow aad ka dhako qabowdahay xiin. ileen isagu wa waranle assal ah,, oo shafka qaraaca. Hadal iyo dhamaantis anigu kheyr baan idin wada rajeynaya.

^^ Nuune ama aw jin horta dib u akhri waxan so qoray meel aan idhi dagaaal ha dhaco ama aan ugu sahadiyey halkeed ku aragtay waxan kaliya so qoray haday sidasi dhacdo sida laiskaga so horjeedo sidasay noqonaysa. Meel aan dagaal ugu baqay ma jirin adeer. By the way its hadh iyo habeen not har iyo habeen.

Its the early 90s all over again only this time Kenyans with heavy weapons are involved maybe it was better for Jubbaland admin to reconcile the communities before they started creating a state.

If Cabaas joins forces with Barre hiiraale than it will be the SFG versus raskambooni/ Kenya, interesting development. And i am hearing Aw libaax might defect to Barre hiiraale.

The halabja memorial in northern Iraq

^^ If that makes them happy why not and if that heals them why not

ElPunto;966105 wrote: What a waste! Leave the man alone this man is not responsible for this leave him alone

Lol@ STOIC the people of Somaliland fought hard to be where they are now when the world turned their back on them they continued they didnt care much about what the world says. When the world started supporting unconditionally the empty shelf that they call the UN western backed Somali government. Somaliland just continued with democratization of the country. The Koonfurians are an obstacle to Somaliland developing thats why Somaliland need to be fully cut loose from them. In order for Somaliland to shine. Somalia just has a negative impact on Somaliland.

These people celebrating are fake nationalists they are all members of sahal and hag when the festivals end they will go back to their clanish corners and try to carve out a territory for the clan , using the muscle of foreigners. This is just for the show one or 2 days partying waving the flag but it means little in reality people of Somalia have no sense of nationalism. They love to talk hours and hours about one thing but they dont mean it, they know it to some admit it others love to hide it. Qiirada iyo calan baanu jecelahay bakh bakh , haday calan jecelyihin Somalia maanta halka may marteen.

Fantastic that looks good Hargeysa keep on building By the way the MIG stays its to remember the atrocities committed against the people of Somaliland

The Cagadheers were not that involved in the Conquest against the Abyssinians but Garaad wiilwaals people were part of the conquest in huge numbers and other small clans. But Somalis believe the imam is a Somali, but if he was a Somali we would've known his clan either he belongs to one of the clans that became extinct or he was an Arab who grew up in the midst of the northern Somalis at that time.

Haatu;965912 wrote: The last one needs more explanation. Do you mean his ethnicity or his qabiil? Both lol

^^ Ooh the Somaliland Somalia issue is a famous subject on SOL had millions of topics about this issue, actually i have talked more about other affairs than Somaliland. You should also check out twitter and youtube. And you will see how Somalis are divided and concerned about this issue. Maybe you do not care nin yabaan, because lama yabaanid Laakin its a controversial issue with in the Somali community. I post mostly news thats why i have so many posts:D

Abtigiis;965779 wrote: There is no accusation from Mogadishu, i mean SFG. This morning, Kenyan Foreign Ministry summoned Somali Embassy staff here in Nairobi to explain the accusations. The staff called state house in Mogadishu, aka, President Hassan's Office. The instructions was that they can not say that the allegations made by the junior minister acting on the order of the PM and tolnimo responsibility is the SFG's position. File closed. Sow markaa warku uma eka, dheg ha u dhigina waa war reer saar Gedoode!! Yaan la isu dawladeeyn, jubbaland na dawlad ma aha ; Office of PM na dawlad ma ahe. Reeraha hala kala qabto. Abtigiis marka meesha yaa dawlad ka aha Kiiniya somaha. Waba fawdo sideedi ah

Sheikh xassan daahir aweys has caused friction with in the HAG society maybe for HAG political objectives it was better if he had stayed with Alshabaab. But he could not stay with Alshabaab because Amiir Godane was chasing him. Maybe he should've been giving refuge in Asmara his old friend Isaias afewerki would give him asylum. But this is atleast is a short win for Sahal, Xaad and Axmed Diiriye will stop their threats against Jubbaland for a while until this is sorted out.

I am not sure what kind kind of Somali you are but the Somalis i know do not like mix with non Somalis whether they are white or black it dont matter. Salafism is very wide category you have neosalafist and thats a strict group and u have jihadi salafists. .I think the sufis are misunderstood even though i believe there is allot of Jahiliya with in the Sufi community. Nonetheless Sufist spread islam in many parts of the world. Number 3 issue is also very controversial and i seen Somalis debate on that i always say with the Arabs we share a religion and with the Africans we share a skin color and continent and to some extend culture Africa is home.

Arabs need monarchs and dictators they cannot live in freedom, they dont know what it is to have democracy

aero;965857 wrote: ^ It's not healthy This is history re-writing itself once again just in a different part of the world. We know this story very well. The confederates (in this case Somaliland) wanted to break away from union with the North (in this case the rest of Somalia to the south) but unionists weren't having any of that secession mambo jambo and as we know it succeeded and continued with the union and is now one of the greatest nations in the world. And you wonder why I'm a unionist . The union always prevails! If America and the powers that be defines Somaliland as a breakaway nation, best believe the rest of the world would accept and follow but since it chooses not to see you as one, y'all cease to exist. Why do you love this union so much what is it in for you its certainly beneficial for you but not for Somaliland, as we seem to be different on this opinion. Union is dead in the hearts and minds of Somaliland and seriously my generation i think were the closest and maybe were idealistic to the union even though they suffered allot because many of them went through the civil war the 80s and their teen age years were ruined.The current youth born in the mid and late 80s. Have no affection at all with anything Somalia. There are different times i used to flirt with Somaliweyn few years ago with some of the youth and they all looked at me with an eye is he really one of us. If u want union and prevail, than u have to defeat Somaliland. If you want to use the American context of their civil war. Are you ready for a war are you ready to spill blood for the union how many you want to sacrifice do you have what it takes to enforce a Union. America is not the horn of Africa. the horn of Africa is turbulent volatile region. And Somalia is very different than America the leaders of Somalia are different than the US leaders. Silanyo is not Jefferson davis. And Culusow is certainly not Abraham Lincoln. I dont think Somalilands future is tight to America the US is not against it and its not for it they are neutral they said it many times. They want the African union to take the lead when it comes to SL recognition. I believe Somaliland has a good chance to be recognized there are no major powers against it except the few hairy arabs in the region, Somalia is not Turkey or China. If South Sudan could break away from Sudan it took them 50 years If Eritrea could break away from Ethiopia it took them more than 30 years. Than i am sure Somaliland has it easy with Somalia the Amisom guarded government. 22 years and counting Somalia in civil and it is not closer to a union with Somaliland. I am even afraid that Somalia it self might disintegrate who knows with all the autonomous states popping up every where and neighboring countries supporting it. The best way for Somalia and Somaliland is agree to live and let live and make sure the peace and stability is maintained in order for the brotherhood between the nations to grow.If we dont do that it will be wasted . If we dont dont do that i am sure in 100 years time when we are long dead the 2 people cannot grow towards each other and always remember today will be tomorrows future.