War anigu Somaliland meelna kumaan qorin , laakin Somaliland threads waan u sameya se kan kama mid ah , adigu laakin Nuunow beryahan caadi uma dhaqantiid , Somaliland wa muqadis ba sheegtey miyadan ka so horjeedin jamhuuriyada Somaliland. Ileen adigu waxad ka mid tahay Koonfurianska. Mise waad is badashay?

War xishooda what is wrong with you guys wax aan laga hadlin baa jira, this is disgusting behavior both of you salax and kan cambuulo la baxay.

Qofkani ma Qof walaan ba adeer maxaad ka sheekeneysa , Somaliland wax lamid ah threadkan kumaan qorin war mala dagaalki Kismayo baad ku khal khashay:D Sidani si maha,,

^^ Where did i mention Somaliland beryahan Somaliland wabaad ku walatay ma is tidhi?

The UN coordinator’s criticism assumes that on the one hand, the federal government has no necessary financial and human resources and capacities to fulfill the six pillar program and on other hand, the international donors are not prepared to provide the timely necessary support. This later assumption on the part of the international community contradicts the public declaration made by the key actors of the international community. Whether the international donor community will put its money where its mouth is or not remains to be seen in not far distant day. Sure, the federal government lacks capacity and resources to fulfill alone the six pillars program. However, the program’s implementation is a precondition for stable government and the preparation of the political election set for in Somalia in 2016 by the international community. The UN Deputy Secretary General Jan Eliasson said on May 7, 2013 at the London Conference on Somalia the following: “The daunting responsibility of the Somali Government is to deliver, among competing priorities, a Constitution and elections in the space of just three years,” It is inconceivable to ask the federal government to focus on constitutional referendum and preparation and conduct of free and fair elections when the sovereignty, territorial integrity, national unity, political independence, government coercive power and representational legitimacy all are contested or in question. The focus of the federal government should be on the completion of the review of the federal provisional constitution, the return of reliable stability in the south central Somalia, on the acceleration of national political and economic integration and unity through national and local institution building, and on a constructive and independent foreign policy. In answering to the questions related to Somaliland and Jubbaland, the former UN coordinator rehearsed the narratives put out by the protagonists of the two areas. The international community recognizes Somalia as one country and the United Nations refused to circulate the letters from Somaliland for being part of Somalia. The time of division of Somalia into Puntland, Somaliland and South Central Somalia has ended. With regard to Somaliland, Mr. Matt Bryden highlighted that Somaliland and Somalia are talking as two parties in dispute despite the federal government represents the interests of the population in the Somaliland regions. His answer suggests a never ending talk, good neighbor’s relation, and legitimization of “separation” between Somaliland regions and Somalia. He makes clear that the authority of Somaliland regions cannot enter into political compromises because of the constraints of the regional constitution while the unconstitutional behavior of Raskamboni Militia under the provisional federal constitution is permissible. The constitutional path for addressing the unsettled federal system of governance in Somalia is clear. The argument of different constitutional interpretations on the issue is for distraction. There are no unconstrained power, conditions and time for the federal government to engage an indefinite talk with the authority of Somaliland regions if it has to conduct a political election in 2016. As in Jubbaland and other parts, there are simmering political and clan conflicts in Somaliland and Puntland. The federal Government must undertake a national census throughout the country in mid-2015. After state collapse, national election is more important than local elections that deepen fragmentation. Without explanation, the former UN coordinator raised the specter of the use of coercive force against Somaliland regions. Since the matter of Somalia is seized by the UN Security Council, it is hard to fathom such an eventuality. Somalia needs individual and collective transformation that fortifies peace, unity, justice, fairness, trust, and prosperity. Actors and participants of the past disastrous failures should contribute to the transformation and should not reconstruct or engender other colossal failures. With regard to Jubbaland, the former UN Coordinator urges the federal government to accept the Jubbaland constitution, political agenda and authority led by Raskamboni Militia and to seek an inclusion of personalities in the declared Regional Authority. This tricky suggestion breaches the national political consensus, the provisions of the Provisional Federal Constitution and undercuts the legitimacy of the federal government. In addition, the role of the Independent Boundaries and Federation is not to settle the dispute over the principles of federalism. The commission’s role is to study the implementation of a federal system based on certain predetermined principles. There are many issues to be completed before the federal parliament appoints the commission. Given the access and connection of the former UN coordinator to the thinking and intelligence of western policy makers for Somalia, the interview reinforces the perception of the international community’s doublespeak on the support to the current “sovereign federal government of Somalia.” This awareness coupled with the lack of significant assistance from the major donors directly to the Federal Government for improving the security situation, building public administration, and starting the delivery of basic social services, prompts a question about the purpose and meaning of the current flares of activities of the international community led by the United States, United Kingdom and United Nations. The Federal Parliament must investigate this issue and inform the public the truth. With reference to Mr. Matt Bryden’s claim that IGAD and African Union are concerned about the appearance of a nontraditional international partner in the region, it seems that there is a collusion of efforts to thwart the glim of hope sparked by the tangible assistance of Turkey and the Organization of Islamic Conference towards Somalia. The membership of Somalia to Africa, Arab and Islamic world is not an option. It is constitutionally and culturally bound membership. Therefore, the argument that Ethiopia and Kenya under the umbrella of IGAD are not happy with the involvement of Turkey in Somalia deserves serious consideration and public awareness. The former UN coordinator suggested that the federal government is failing as all the previous Transitional Federal Governments (TFG) failed. However, he did not mention the fundamental reasons why all TFG failed to establish a stable government. I like to mention here five reasons. First, the TFG lacked ownership of political agenda that responds to the priorities and needs of the Somali people. Second, the aid resources were exclusively and independently managed in Nairobi by donors. Third, IGAD (Ethiopia) managed TFGs as local government entity. Fourth, the international community focused on terrorism, piracy and humanitarian crisis at the expense of statebuilding. Fifth, factional usurpation and abuse of constitution were encouraged and rewarded. Now if international donor-powers entertain the idea of continuing on that path under the cover of “titular sovereign federal government,” then the possibility of failure of the federal government could be real. The New Deal strategy is based on the vision to exit Somalia from the path of permanent failure. The position of the Federal Government on Jubbaland tends to bring Somalis together and to abandon the culture of clan animosity and hatred, factionalism, warlordism, secession, and foreign manipulation. The presence of Kenya forces in the region will be considered as a foreign occupation forces as long as they are operating outside the mandate of the UN Security Council and African Union. The federal government must consistently defend the interests of all Somalis in accordance with the Provisional Federal Constitution and through the national institutions. The leaders of the Somali Federal Government must engage and educate the public for harmony, loyalty to the state and national values. Injustices, mistrusts and grievances should be addressed through effective legal or traditional mechanisms with strong supervision from the higher authority for the purpose of Somalis coming together and of not replacing injustices with injustices. Openness and public mobilization are needed for political unity. Leaders’ words must correspond to their deeds. If one tries to summarize the substance of former UN coordinator’s interview, the federal government should forget Somaliland and Jubbaland and look for imaginary or failure tasks like the preparation of political elections and constitutional referendum in a fragmented society or concentration on Mogadishu and surrounding areas. This kind of suggestion is a trap for another secure national failure.

Somalia: former UN coordinator came down hard on the federal government June 28, 2013 Mareeg.com-In an interview (Somalia: lights and Shadows) published Saturday 22, 2013 in the Kenya Daily Nation, Mr. Matt Bryden, former coordinator of UN Monitoring Group on Somalia and Eritrea, came down hard on the federal government of Somalia (FGS). He lambasted the federal government for “delusional” performance, supported the unconstitutional ‘Jubbaland’ regional state announced in Kismaio with the blessing of Kenya Government, and pitched for the “status quo” of the north western regions of Somalia renamed “Somaliland.” He attributed the failure of the federal government to not meeting the expectations raised by what he described an ambitious six pillar program- the political platform of President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud. The platform mirrors the “New Deal” strategy that promotes nationally owned plan for peacebuilding and statebuiling. As a government of failed state, the new federal government and the international community agreed on the “New Deal” strategy that focuses on five goals: inclusive legitimate politics, security, justice, employment and livelihood, good financial management and delivery of public services. The new comprehensive approach supplants the bottom-up or top-down approaches. In partnership, the international community adopted the slogan: “One voice, one common vision in the support of new Somalia.” Therefore, I think it is an exaggeration to describe the six pillar program ambitious. The international community accepted it as an initial basis for statebuilding process in Somalia- a game changer- which predicates on a substantial international assistance. To their credit, the leaders of the federal government have shown political steadiness, unity and commitment in the face of unimaginable external and domestic pressures and attacks.

^^ Somaliland moved on long time ago , when will Somalia move on and stop fighting over cities since the 90s.

The zack the goverment has no real boots on the ground so it will be only moral support maybe a few militias.i am sure Hiiraale's Militia are not the SFG. For the long run its not good to take sides but it really depends on the situation. Imagine Zack that Barre loses and Madoobe wins and the govt backed Hiiraale, than it will look bad there will be no trust between madoobe and the SFG. Another scenario If they support hiiraale and hiiraale wins than they have a trusted ally in the region but for how long can he stay in power. If they stay neutral than they can mediate but there will be a chance they lose control. All choices the govt takes will have severe repercussions.

Just Analyzing the situation The Zack everything is ok what is the latest?

You are right but dont you think sometimes it smart to support the lesser evil in order to gain control of the region for example if hiiraale takes control of Kismayo he will allow the govt in and to take control of the region. You are right the situation is messed since the govt has no real presence in the region. It will be very difficult its good not to take sides in order to get both groups together and come to a solution but than again this is Somalia. This is not a normal country.

If sheikh indhocade al markaawi can become a General Maybe there is a place for aways in the damuljadid religious group, the Bond between brothers perhaps

I am sure that Hassan daahir aways will not be brought to court, he will be pardoned he might even join the govt u never know. Or he might be deported to live his last years in peace. But there is no way the SFG to bring him to court. I believe he made a deal with the SFG before he was flown to Mogadishu.

Homunculus the Kenyan troops arrested a top Colonel of the federal troops a gentlemen who goes by the name of Cabaas. But its only fair the raskambooni are being supported by Kenya and if the other group is supported by Somalia its only fair and balanced dont you think?

I dont know what they will do but they cant afford to lose it ,they want to be in control, the Kenyans and the Raskambooni Militia wont let them.But Somalia might even cut all diplomatic ties with Nairobi the problem is the Kenyans are not neutral in this conflict. We shall see in the next coming weeks what kind of direction it will take. So far Ahmed madoobe legitimacy as President has been badly damaged, with the constant clashes. Because the other 2 claim to be President to.

Dagaalkii Kismaayo oo Qaboobay iyo Abaabullo Dagaal oo ka socda gudaha Magaaladaas oo weli la isku hor-fadhiyo Sabti, Juun 29, 2013 (HOL) — Dagaalladii maanta ka socday Kismaayo ayaa qaboobay maqrinimadii caawa, iyadoo ciidamadii dagaalku u dhexeeyay ay weli isku horfadhiyaan xaafado ka tirsan magaaladaas, waxaana si xowli ah uga socda barakac ay dadku sameynayaan. Iyadoo dagaalkii maanta uu ahaa mid xooggan ayaa wararka aan ka helayno Kismaayo waxay sheegayaan inay ku dhinteen 20-ruux oo u badan shacabkii lagu dul-dagaalamay, kuwaasoo qaarkood ay dhaawacyo soo gaaray markii dambe ugu geeriyooday isbitaalka guud ee magaaladaas. “Xaaladdu waa daggan tahay, waxaase socda abaabullo ay wadaan kooxihii ku dagaalamay magaalada, rasaas ayaa mararka qaarkood dhacaysa, iyadoo magaaladu ay u muuqato in labada dhinac ay u qaybsan tahay,” ayuu HOL u sheegay mid ka mid ah dadka ku nool Kismaayo. Goobjoogahan ayaa sheegay in dadka dhintay iyo kuwa dhaawacmay ay inta badan yihiin dadkii shacabka ah ee ka barakacayay magaalada, iyadoo qaar ka mid ah waddooyinka magaalada ay yaallaan maydadka kooxihii dagaalku u dhexeeyay iyo dad shacab ah oo ay dishay rasaasta iyo madaafiicda loo adeegsanayay dagaalkii maanta. “Abaabullo ciidan ayaa socda, waxaana baqdin weyn laga qabaa inuu dhaco dagaal ka culus kuwii labadii maalmood ee lasoo dhaafay socday, dadkuna si aad ah ayay uga barakacayaan magaalada,” ayuu goobjooguhu hadalkiisa ku daray. Ciidamada maamulka Sheekh Axmed Madoobe ayaa la sheegay inay saldhig weyn ay ciidamada dowladda Soomaaliya ka qabsadeen gellinkii dambe ee maanta, kaasoo ku yaalla warshadda hilibka ee Kismaayo. “Qayb ayay ka yihiin ciidamada dowladda dagaalka, waxayna la safan yihiin xoogagga daacadda u ah Col. Barre Hiiraale, Cabdi Baalleey iyo Iftin Baasto, ciidamada AMISOM ee magaalada ku suganna wax tallaabo ah oo ay weli qaadeen ma jirto,” ayuu goobjoogahan hadalkiisa ku daray. Dadkii ku dhintay dagaalladii maanta ayaa waxaa ka mid ahayd hooyo iyo saddex caruur ah oo ay dhashay, kuwaasoo doonayay inay magaalada ka qaxaan, waxaana madfac uu kula dhacay bartamaha magaalada Kismaayo. Dhanka kale, dhaqaatiirta isbitaalka Kismaayo ayaa waxay ka cabanayaan dawo la’aan iyo qalab la’aan, iyadoo isbitaalka ay dhaawacyadii soo gaaray ugu geeriyoonayaan dad badan oo shacab ah, kuwaasoo rasaas iyo hubka waaweyn ay ku dhaceen iyagoo guryahooda ku sugan, qaarkood ay isaga barkacayeen magaalada. Inkastoo dowladda Soomaaliya ay ku baaqday maanta in dagaalka la joojiyo ayaa haddana waxaa ka socda magaalada hub urursi xooggan oo dhinacyadii dagaalamay u dhexeeya, iyadoo baqdin weyn laga qabo dagaallo kale oo dhaca.

Watch the video here http://news.sky.com/story/1109202/olympian-mo-farah-receives-cbe-at-palace

So much hatred war xishooda all of you its good to disagree Politics why u got to involve Woman Gaaroodi Salax Moonlight, cayda joojiya fadlan.

Indeed Somaliland went along way here is the SL first vice President in 1992 in a destroyed Somaliland http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0OlvBMux6p4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Determined unbeatable undeniable

Wasiirkii Hore Ee Daakhiliga Oo Xilkii Wasaaradda Ku Sagootiyay Khudbad Qiiro Leh June 29th, 2013 “Haddii la iga Filayay Inaan Matago oo sidii Nin Cadhaysan u Hadlo, cidii intaas iga Sugaysay Raali ha iga ahaato” “Culays Baa iga degay, waxaan ku faraxsan nahay inaan ku biiro inta Nasatay, Madaxweynahana waan uga mahad naqayaa” “Waxaan ka ilaalin doonaa Bulshadda wax kasta oo kala fogayn kara bulshadda Somaliland sida eexda, qabyaaladda iyo nin jeclaysiga” Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)- Wasiirkii hore ee Wasaaradda Arrimaha Gudaha Somaliland Md. Maxamed Nuur Caraalle (Duur) ayaa maanta khudbad taariikhi ah oo laab qaaday dadweynaha ku sagatootiyay xilka Wasaaradda daakhiliga Somaliland oo uu maanta si rasmi ah ugu wareejiyay Wasiirka cusub Md. Cali Maxamed Waran-cadde oo Madaxweyne Siilaanyo magacaabay Isniintii todobaadkii hore. Xafladii xil wareejinta oo ay ka soo qeyb galeen Xildhibaano ka tirsan Golaha Wakiiladda, Taliyeyaasha ciidammadda Booliska, xeebaha, laanta socdaalka, Wasiir ku xigeenadda wasaaradda Daakhiliga, agaasimeyaasha waaxaha, shaqaalaha wasaaradda Arrimaha gudaha iyo marti-sharaf kale. Wasiirkii hore Md. Maxamed Nuur Caraalle (Duur) ayaa u mahad celiyay shaqaalaha wasaaradda iyo ciidamamada kala duwan ee wasaaraddu xukunto, waxaanu yidhi “Wax baa noo qabsoomay oo wada jir iyo isku duubni ayay wax noogu qabsoomeen. Himilo ayaanu lahayn oo aanu hiigsanaynay in halkii laga qaado oo la sii wado ayay u baahan tahay. Haddii aanu wax ka gaabinayna waxa masuulka cusub Madaxweynuhu u doortay inuu dar-dar geliyo oo uu halkii ka sii qaado,”ayuu yidhi Wasiirkii hore ee Daakhiligu. Wasiir Duur waxa uu sheegay in wasaaradaas mudadii uu Wasiirka ka ahaa ay ku soo mareen duruufo kala gedisan oo uu wax ka bartay isagoo arrintaas ka hadlayayna wuxuu yidhi “Waayo ayaa igu soo maray Wasaaradan adag oo duruus iyo cibro ayaan kala kulmay, casharro ayaan ka bartay, aad ayaan ugu faraxsan nahay duruustaas. Waxay iigu jirtaa baal dahab ah. Dacaladda Somaliland Bari illaa Galbeed ayaan bulshadda degta cid walba hor-fadhiistay anigoo nabad iyo wanaag doonaya. Casharro ayaan ka bartay ii dhaxal noqon doona.” Wasiirkii hore oo hadalkiisa sii watay waxa uu yidhi “Waxay I dhaxal siisay ayaan idiin sheegayaa waxay I dhaxal siisay inaan nabadda dhawro oo nabad dhawre noqdo. Waxay I dhaxal siisay inaan danta dhawro, waxay I dhaxal siisay inaan Masuulka dhawro cid uu yahay-ba. Dantu waa khafiif. Adeegaha danta guudna waxa uu ilaalinayaa wax khafiif ah, markaa waa qof nugul, laakiin qofka tuuraya ee shiidaya danta guud ee dhaawacayaa ma oga nugulka ay danta guud tahay. “Dantu waa quraarad oo way jabaysaa oo waxay u baahan tahay in la dhawro, qaranka Somaliland-na waa qaran daciif ah oo dhawr iyo labaatan sanadood ayuu soo jiray, laakiin wali halkii uu doonayay ma uu gaadhin. Mudadaas dheerna wali waa raad barad, dhaqaaluhuna waa qadhiidh oo wax yar baa wax lagu wadaa,”ayuu yidhi Mr. Duur. Wasiirkii hore waxa uu intaas ku ladhay “Adeegaha danta guudna ee masuuliyadda intaas leeg ilaalinayaa, in loogu duceeyo oo la yidhaahdo ALLE ha kugu asturo mooyee, tuur-tuur uma baahna waxaynu baranay in hadba Tagtaa ay fariidadii tahay, cida joogtaana uu aabihii naarihii yahay. Waxaan idinka codsanayaa in Fariidku ka jooga noqdo oo aanu kii tagay noqon. Waa in farriidka iyo kii taageeradda u baahnaa uu yahay ka jooga uu noqdo.” “Guul-darada adeegeyaasha danta guud oo ah masuuliyada qaranka, guul-daradoodu waa guul daradda qaranka, fashilkooduna waa fashilka qaranka, ummaddana waxay ka sugayaan taageero, laakiin waxaan qirayaa in shacbiga reer Somaliland ay shacab wanaagsan ahaayeen, khalad waa jiraa, waxyaabo way inagu soo baxeen, duruusi way dhacday, qabyaaladii baa dib u soo kacday, doorashadii baa carisay illaa ciyaarihii bay gaadhay,”ayuu yidhi Mr. Duur. “Waxaan u mahad naqayaa ciidammadda kala duwan ee danta iyo daciifka ku samray. Shalay waxa la iga rabay masuuliyadda amniga qaranka, maantana Anigaa amnigayga gaarka ah xataa u daba fadhiisanaya Cali Waran cadde (Wasiirka Cusub), culays baa iga degay, waxaan ku faraxsan nahay inaan ku biiro inta nasatay. Madaxweynahana waan uga mahad naqayaa, Waxaan noqonayaa nabad dhawre, waxaan ku biirayaa inta nabadda jecel ee daljiraha ah, waxaan dusha ka ilaalinayaa oo dayr u noqonayaa in danta qaranku guulaysato, ”ayuu yidhi Wasiirkii hore ee Daakhiligu. Wasiir Duur waxa uu sheegay inaanu caytamayn isla markaana aanu mantagayn haddii xilkii laga qaaday, waxaanu yidhi “Haddii maanta la iga filayay inaan mantago oo sidii nin cadhaysan u hadlo, cidii intaas iga sugaysay raali ha iga ahaato.” Wasiirka cusub ee wasaaradda Arrimaha gudaha Md. Cali Maxamed Waran-cadde oo halkaasi ka jeediyay khudbad dheer ayaa uga mahad celiyay madaxweynaha Somaliland xilka culus ee uu u magacaabay, waxa kale oo uu u mahad celiyay Wasiirka xilka wareejinayay. “ Waxa uu sheegay inuu xilkiisa u gudan doono si daacadnimo, xilkasnimo iyo waddaniyad leh. “Waxaan ka ilaalin doonaa Bulshadda wax kasta oo kala fogayn kara bulshadda Somaliland sida eexda, qabyaaladda iyo nin jeclaysiga.waxaynu u baahan nahay inaynu dhexdeena ka abuurno jawi iskaashi, wada tashi iyo is aamin si loo heli shacbi wada jira oo ka qeyb qaadan kara horumarinta dalkooda,”ayuu yidhi Wasiirka cusub Md. Cali Maxamed Waran-cadde. Wasiirka cusubi waxa uu balan qaaday inuu dhawri doono xuquuqul insaanka iyo xoriyatul qawlka. Wax kale oo uu xusay inuu la diriri doono kooxaha habeenkii dadweynaha ku laayana,kuna baadha dariiqyada xaafadaha magaalooyinka waaweyn.

The legendary Cabdi Siyaaro tells it all Somalia and Somaliland Lixdanki midnimadi la igu siray majarihi beenta lixdanki aan moogahe aha maxa badu un qaaday lixdanki mugdgi anu galnay murti bixin wayney lixdanki masiibadu ii heshay murugu so laabtay ha u malayn inan mooganahay ti aad na marinaysey Maalintu mugdiga naga hadhay madax banaanahay may xorninima qaadanay oo lo mashaxardaye alla magane somaliland muqadis weyaane eh

Why dont we have interviews with some of the factions fighting there is no concrete news on the ground. Jubbalandnews is reporting that the Supreme gedo elder was almost assassinated. Algalguduud reports they have completely annihilated Ahmed madoobe forces with have more than 20 pows.And that also the Ras kambooni troops every time they are pushed back hide behind the Kenyan Military barracks. The Conflict is not over until the Fat Lady sings.

^^ The pirates are hating on Hiiraale because he defeated Moorgen several times Moonlight daynille community are unstable HAGs the biggest Alshabaab supporters . We will hear more news about this story in the upcoming hours.Dont declare victory to early, it might backfire.

Detoore how many parties are now contesting Horseed is Faroole and dawlada party, the Galkacyo Community who do they support?

^^ What you mean prayers unanswered i said in the other thread that Ahmed madoobe will not lose since the Kenyans are on his side. It was never a fair battle to begin with every one knows that The Ahmed madoobe Militia got logistics and Militaristic support from the Kenyans.By the way these are Pirate and Azanian sources and dayniile is unreliable source like waagacusub. I will wait for more sources. Jubbaland getting stronger i dont see that i just see several warlords clashing , by the way Barre believes he is protecting his Jubbaland lol.

Source?