Mad Mullah know Somalis share a cultural bond this should remain and exist we have Somalis from NFD here we Somalis from Somali galbeed and we have Somalilanders. Mad Mullah i believe though the days the Koonfurians fully all accept that Somaliland is gone, there will be less Somalilanders on these boards. Than there will be no political conflict any more.. We cannot agree on a country nation nor on politics. But we should stay together in the cultural way. By the way Djiboutians care they are politically more involved in Somalia than Somaliland there are Djiboutian troops in Somalia.

The coast of Somaliland is enough for Somaliland , Somalilanders can build at least 4 ports on its shores there is enough Fish in the sea's of Somaliland for the entire region. Why would we want more tell me its not good to be greedy my friend. Anas bin Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “If the son of Adam had a valley full of gold, he would like to have two valleys, for nothing fills his mouth except dust; and Allah forgives him who repents to Him. Saxiix Bukhari”

Wonderful Somalia and Somaliland Eritrea all in the Horn Djibouti uun ba ka maqan

carafaat what is the difference between uganda an kenya

^^ There is nothing to celebrate there is no Somali unity and Somalia is under the mercy of Uganda Burundi Nigeria siere leone Ethiopia and Kenya, and Alshabaab Lunatics.

^^:D

Daahir aways will be handed over to the Americans and they will take him to Guantanamo bay

Good news

nuune;965465 wrote: But you keep reminding us that Somaliland is neutral and at the same time supporting President Baasto, I think it is time you write only one hand at a time, because both hands are confusing you, one is writing something, the other against that something. I never supported President baasto bal waalida inta leeg eeg or any of the Presidents there. Meeshu wa meel madaxweynaayaal badan adeer.

The conflict was never fair to begin with i have said it from day one that Barre cannot defeat madoobe aslong as the Kenyans are there it is impossible so this was basically expected wabaan sii sheegey. Nothing new Tilamook waxba ha cadhoon:D But Barre might be back there are others saying he might return.

^^^ Somaliland has nothing to do with this issue , i dont know who abuuna waraabe is ?

^^ He was in control he chased away much of raskambooni but he was pushed back and later he retreated to his house and let the raskambooni come and than pushed them back again. But raskambooni got reinforcement and assistance from the KDF so they pushed him out eventually. If there were no Kenyans in the game than the conflict would be different. But if Barre joins Alshabaab i dont know if this news is true but than the conflict becomes more complicated. By the way i never said Hiiraale was in control of most of Kismayo where did i say that been ha iga sheegin

^^ They would probably hand him over oday aways he refused to die as a shahiid now there is a chance he might be shipped to Guantanamo bay cuffed and wearing an orange prison jumpsuit. Allow u sahal Aweys

Now its getting interesting when you thought you heard everything you read this.

Kenya might not officially say they are supporting Raskambooni but raskambooni is their ally they spend over a year in the bush together, the Kenyans have the Military hardware to protect ras kambooni. The Kenyans have a dozen of AMX 10P armored military vehicles and well trained soldiers in and around and Kismayo, They control the port and the airport heavily guarded even if barre hiiraale badly hurts raskambooni there will always be reinforcement from Kenyan defense forces. Somalia is diplomatically not ready to confront Kenya you have seen how quiet the SFG was. And calling for the Amisom to be neutral in the conflict the things is hassan culusow does not control the KDF. they take orders from uhurro Kenyatta its a very difficult situation.

puntnomads;965435 wrote: Xaaji That was my point. Those who cry about Kenya actions are wasting their time. Kenya liberated Kismaayo to give to their RK allies who helped them and they don't recognize other militias. I was laughing when Mogadishu said to AMISOM to treat both warring factions equally. Somali political positions may change at the drop of a hat but Kenya position is consistent. Kenya may actually go to the international community saying other militias are trouble makers and in order to restore the peace they have crush the other militias in Kismaayo. The only way the SFG can change something on the ground is if they send troops to Kismayo who hold part of the city i mean the SFG has no presence some are saying hiiiraale militia are SFG. But the SFG does little to support them. Thats why i believe Kenya is going to stay in Somalia for some time now. Also Somalia is doing nothing to lobby for the removal of the Kenyan troops, or call for their replacement. Somalia is to friendly to Kenya hassan the past 8 months visited Kenya 5 times and nothing has changed.

Puntnomads yes for now Kenya has the upper hand because Somalia does not even control its territory. Also for the west Kenya is more important than Somalia, basically the Kenyans are paid to protect their own security. If hassan and Ahmed madoobe could make a deal than the Kenyan influence in Somalia would be minor. But because hassan and axmed madoobe cannot agree. They play a significant role in Somalia and their opinions weighs higher on the international stage. Kenya is actually playing it very smart now and they just recently got involved inside Somalia.

I said it before as long as Kenya is present there Barre cannot hold Kismayo he can create instability chase them around but they will get aided and assisted Militarily by the Kenyans so its a loss cause he will never be able to hold it. No Somali militia can confront Kenya unless you are willing to blow your self up in their Military head quarters Alqaeda style

This was very dumb of the government they arrested aways,, first they made a promise that he was safe but they tricked him, now the remaining leaders of shabaab like roobow will never ever even if he thought coming to xamar.They will not come and he will rather die than come to xamar.

The Amiir even though he allied him self with al Zawahiri, he did that just to get support, from them i doubt he is interested now to liberate Jerusalem. I wonder he will be focused on that he now just wants to annihilate the Amisom forces and carry more attacks against the SFG. I believe he just reorganized Alshabaab, its going through the same process as the Taliban in 2005. Getting rid of the difficult elements with in the movement, than shabaab will be more effective they wont be taking control of much regions but they will try to create havoc. And they will unite their strength all over the country and spare their resources and they will just double their attacks. Because Amisom will not face them as one front but they will be spread all over the place and fight a guerrilla warfare. The same as the Taliban exhausted the American NATO forces, Taliban got rid of the Al qaeda Afghanistan and the useless Arab fighters. Alshabaab is sick and Godane is trying to cure it by getting rid of the likes of ibrahim seylici daahir aways Amriki.

Amiir Godane just got rid of his trusted friend Ibrahim Seylici . Ibrahim Seylici was an explosive genius was the coordinator of all the attacks he was also in charge of the finances .rumors say that Abu mansur and Ibrahim seylici wanted to get rid of Amiir Godane. Godane got rid of Ibrahim seylici he beheaded him. And abu mansuur fled to his tribal home land. Others are saying Amiir Godane and Fuad shangoole are on the same side along with sh cali dhere and right now he has no one is challenging him for the throne he got rid of daahir aways got rid of seylici got rid of abu mansur. Seems Like Godane is the last man standing.

Breathes Qabiil where did i mention Qabiil? and what does that have to do with Qabiil i told you they had their responsibility had they never made that troubled unwise union they could have saved allot of people pain misery war famine.

Xishoodku wa waajib diinta islaamka wax yaalo lugu hadlin ba jira both you and salax. by the way why is this thread back its 5 years old, gabadha miskiinada why u so hadal qaadaysan,

Gaw hadaad ka dartay ma bani hashim baad sheegatay the koonfurians hadanad ahay maxa calankooga kugu raray mise Kenyati baad tahay sida haatu Koley ma tihid Somaliland bani hashim na shaqu isku ma lihidin eeh bal cidad tahay sheego. Dhafoor qiiqi iyo waxaas aniga igu ma baxdo dhafoor qiiqiqu xoogaha way yara mad madowyihin.

Haatu;965303 wrote: 1da Luulyo was the time when Somalis put unity before qabiil, and Soomaaliweyn before petty self-interest. It was a time when the Somali people decided to pursue a different course, a better course. To stop the petty clan wars and work for the betterment of their people and land. The sad incident you are referring to Mr Wiil Cusub was a massacre and a war crime. It was a dark, dark event in Somali history that went against everything that 1da Luulyo stood for. It was an event where Somali might and wealth was used to try an eradicate a group of Somalis, totally against the ideals of 1da Luulyo. I understand you want to make a point but all you all you did was insult the great Somali Independence fathers and particularly the Northern leaders at the time by claiming their actions on 1da Luulyo were responsible for the war crimes carried out by Siyaad which was not the case. Somaliland leaders who made the union the vast majority of Somalilanders believe they were wrong the 1950s Politicians of Somaliland are ofcourse partly responsible because they could have safe guarded Somaliland interest, By not uniting with the Koonfurians but they choose not. First of July is a happy for the Koonfurians its their independence day. But for Somalilanders its a dark day, so the 2 stand and have different beliefs. I believe the Union caused the destruction had the Union never happened maybe total collapse of Somalia could have been avoided. Somaliland destruction in the late 80s could have been avoided.