Ahaa the Dervish history one of my favorite its always good to read the dervish horse riders although the kacaan gave their version, the history books speak for themselves. To bad we dont have actual Somali literature about the dervish movement written in the late 19 century early 20th century. There are a few records in Aden about the early stage of the dervish movement but i yet have to see them its written in Arabic i have been told. There is one book i like though i think garoodi quoted some of it , its called Seventeen Trips Through Somaliland by carlos swayne, i think Aw jamac used this book to as guidance although he gave his clanish twist and illustrated his clan as gladiators at the battle of Fardhadin and beer dhiga. Iskaa daa rag bu rag ka daba geynayey eh

Its not complex its not a real conflict there are no clan or water disputes in the hawd this is was a man that was killed so i dont see this as the gaashaamo clan versus the garaad clan this is not happening , maybe some people like that to happen. But this is not the case

Mooge there was no clan clash just a revenge killing nin meesha joogay

Cambuulo iyo bun;969206 wrote: xaaji uu kaadi bal hiiraab is a name. I know ditoore hiiraabe personally he lives in sweden koley nin caqli badan leh maaha Lol adiga baba sheegeya inanu caqli badan lahayn:D

Dr Hiiraab who can take this guy serious when he has a HAG name, the house of sahal rejects his message.

Waxba isma dhamaan Xaraan wa Xaraan

Corruption Nepotism was normal during the Kacaan days, dhulkanada diyaaradanada saafaradanada kamay qasnayn reerka.

This might escalate if the Afro hashimiate elders dont mediate and make peace between brotherly clans

If there is even the size of Yemen of oil it will help, there is always interests for oil when it comes to western powers.

Whats the point of talking what is going to happen in the next 500 to 1000 years if not more who knows if the world even exists maybe it will jawmal qiyaama before that. Somaliweyn is an idealistic concept but it has no real strong foundation on the ground, i dont see how Somalis in Kenya can gain independence when oil was just found, there is a chance the Somali region of Ethiopia to be free. But i doubt that they want to be under Somalia.

I am sure there is oil but Somaliland should be careful about what kind of deals it reaches with oil companies. Oil also will help with Somaliland quest for recognition. Do we have sources that indicate what percentage the oil companies will take and what percentage Somaliland.

Naxar Nugaaleed;969057 wrote: Guys, guys, The "Somali Plate" is splitting from Africa. Not too far into the distant future, Somaliwein will be inevitable, fait accompli. Somalia will be an Island, the world's first Banana Republic, in the literal sense. Until then chill people This will not be in our life time and neither in the life time of our grand childeren

Ethno nationalism should never be a base for a country national identity, Albania and kosovo are ethnic Albanians, Somaliweyn is like people who advocate for greater Albania parts of Macedonia parts of serbia. Or people who advocate Tigray Eritrea unity,or the people who call for the unity of Rwanda and Burundi. Unity if it is not based on equality based on mutual interest it never works you will only get more conflict.I did not even mention the Arab Nations the Khaleeji one why would one khaleej country be under the other. The only way i can possibly think a Somaliweyn can ever exist is if there is giant political unity institution such as the European union. But every country keeps its national status identity country government army but it will be one of cooperation only. But i doubt we can even reach that style of cooperation in our life time. U just have to look at the Mogadishu Jubbaland conflict. Or the Somalia Somaliland conflict

I agree

Thread gone wrong again why do people always need to inject woman into this war xishooda. And its ramadan laqwiga hala yareysto

Muslims should attend Tarweeh prayers nights. Even though, it is not obligatory for a Muslim to pray Tarweeh, without a valid excuse, he will be questioned in the Day of Judgement why he did not pratice a strong Sunnah of the Prophet (sws) during the holy month of Ramadan. The Prophet stated," Whoever observes night prayer in Ramadan as an expression of his faith and to seek reward from Allah, his previous sins will be blotted out."(Muslim) However, the Prophet did not practice Taraweeh daily in the nights of Ramadan in the masjid because he feared that it would become mandatory (fardh) on his Ummah."The Messenger of Allah (saas) observed Taraweeh prayer in the Masjid one night and people prayed with him. He repeated the following night and the number of participants grew. The companions congregated the third and fourth night, but the Messenger did not show up. In the morning he told them, "I saw what you did last night, but nothing prevented me from joining you except my fear that it might be made mandatory on you in Ramadan." Number of Raka'ats in Taraweeh As for the number of raka'ats in Taraweeh and Witr, the worthy ancestor, Salaf as-Saalih disagreed on the amount of Raka'ats. These numbers are mentioned for raka'ats: 39, 29, 23, 19, 13, and 11 raka'ats. Of all the numbers mentioned, none is sounder than 11 raka'ats. 'Aishah (raa) was asked how was the prayer of the Prophet (saas)? She replied: "He did not pray in Ramadan or some other times more than eleven raka'ats." (Muslim/Bukhari)

I think this was the most funniest that angered Allgalguduud Ila qosol: Barre Hiiraalle oo geed hoostii Madaxweyne ku xigeen ku magacaabay,{DHAGAYSO WARAYSI}. http://horufadhi.com/2013/07/07/ila-qosol-barre-hiiraalle-oo-geed-hoostii-madaxweyne-ku-xigeen-ku-magacaabaydhagayso-waraysi/

SomaliPhilosopher;968944 wrote: We lost the NFD for good folks. No more prospects for Somaliweyn NFD is better of In Kenya, Kenya is an economic power house in the region NFD never belonged to Somalia, its inhabited by Ethnic Somalis of the Kenyan nationality, its better if Somali Kenyans try become politically relevant in that nation.

The Khatumo websites are funny , they write funny stuff about barre hiiiraale lol

Raali ahow that was not my intention laakin wadamada uun baan is raaciiyey adiguna cayda jooji

Waxasi wa been isticmaar ka hor Somaliya Somaliya lama odhan jirin waxasi wa sheeko huuhaa, Oromo na wa recent iyadu laftigeeda Galla ba la odhan jiray , dee wa run dadka af Somaliga ku hadla. hada ma af kalay ku hadlan so Somali kuma hadlaan, Somalida Kenya afsomali b ay ku hadlan Somalida Djibouti afsomali bay ku hadlan Somalida ethiopia Somali bay ku hadlan , Somalida Somaliland Somali bay ku hadlan eeh Somalida Somaliana Somali bay ku hadlan.

Haatu;968926 wrote: Come again? You envy the people of Somaliland you belittle their efforts if it wasn't for them there would never be a union to begin with not that the union concerns you. You are still a Kenyan national who tries to meddle into Somali affairs may they be Somalia and Somaliland. Now you have the guts to say that they are rebranding something called Somaliland when Somaliland was much older than your Kenya and Somalia to. You are angry because Cigaal did not safe you from Jomo Kenyatta, well guess again only your self can fight for your freedom that is if your docile communities in kenyas north eastern province want to be free of Kenya. I really dont mind Koonfurians saying this and that about SL waba dad wax naga dhexeyaan oo an jaar nahay, bal kuwan Kenyatiga maxa naga dhexeyaa.

Haatu;968923 wrote: I knew you were going there. You're trying to convince us that in 1960 Somaliland and Somalia united to form the Somali Republic which is false. As you know, Waqooyi and Koonfur united in 1960 to form the Somali Republic also called Somalia.As of today, one of the former components of the Union is trying to rebrand itself as something called 'Somaliland' but Somalia as a country still exists in the international sense (the 1960 Union has not been legally nullified). Only if the latter happens (God forbid), will Somalia be reduced to just the Koonfur. Capiche? The name they agreed to unite was the Somali republic even the country name under Siad bare was the Somali democratic republic, they were never called woqoyi and koonfur much after independence people started referring Somaliland as woqoyi and Somalia as Koonfur. One of the biggest errors in the horn of Africa THE UNION OF SOMALILAND AND SOMALIA LAW Preamble: WHEREAS the State of Somaliland achieved independence and ceased to be under British protection or within the jurisdiction and sovereignty of Her Britannic Majesty on the 26th day of June, 1960 (being Muharram 1st 1379): AND WHEREAS the State of Somalia achieved its independence and ceased to have the status of a Trust Territory of the United Nations Organization administered by the Republic of Italy on the 1st of July, 1960 AND WHEREAS it is the will of the peoples of Somaliland and Somalia that their States shall united shall forever be united in the Somali Republic: NOW, we the signatories hereof being the duly authorized representatives of the peoples of Somaliland and Somalia and having vested in us the power to make and enter into this Law on behalf of our respective States and peoples do hereby solemnly and in the name of God the compassionate and Merciful agree as follows:- Union: 1. (a) The State of Somaliland and the State of Somalia do hereby unite and shall forever remain united in a new, independent, democratic, unitary republic the name whereof shall the SOMALI REPUBLIC.

Haatu;968920 wrote: I'm serious. Somali Republic was the official name in 1960 but it was still called Somalia, including the Waqooyi. Uurkubaalle ma ihi balse I have a feeling where you're trying to go with this. What do you have against woqoyi adigu i believe Kenyans should stay way from Somalia and Somaliland affairs

Bal aan dib u noqdo Former Somali republic Somalia and Somaliland, Somaliland restored it statehood broke away call it what u want. What do you have left Somalia also is balkanized Jubbaland Puntland the SFG led by HAG.