Siyaasada iyo kaftanka dee wala wadayaa oo taasi joogsan mayso , balse waxay somalidu isku hayan u malayn mayo kaftan SOL lugu joojiyo iyo siyasad ka hadal ba wax ka badalaysa wa aragtidayda.

^^ That is going to be a little difficult but on the other hand the koonfurians are already jihadist and religious zealots there is a way they might fall for it the republicans lol.

^^ You are a real OG they are upfront , like the Somalilanders but i believe Koonfurians in Somalia do not like to tell the truth they like to go in circles and talk about other stuff pretend everything is fine. We got the true nomadic waranle culture. The Koonfurians have the Mafia culture of deception and backstabbing but in the open they all act as if they are brothers and sisters and everything is cool. Thats why i like The Zack he tells it like it is they are thinking it but they dont dare to say it , also you mad mullah u have that to. Abtigiis had that to although he gave it an intellectual twist.

^^ Actually i prefer the United states, they helped mediate between South Sudan and Sudan and it got a fine result.

^^ Wax wanaagi ma jirto laakin maxa laga qaban kara

^ it is Balkanized just not officially , Somaliland broke away in 1991, Puntland in 1998 created an autonomous state but it is independent on all fronts , it sometimes goes on equal footing with the Somali federal government and now we have jubbaland in the Making , which will serve Kenya as a buffer zone.

It means inay tabta ku nooladan.

^^ i would not want the Turks to mediate perhaps the Europeans Britain France Germany

^^ Wey kala adagyihin wasee la so kala dhex galay African union troops iyo waxyaalo kale. Lama rabo inay dhinac guuleysato conflictka Somalida.

Daqane;968879 wrote: Again sorry yaa haabaro xaaji Saaxib what ever rocks your boat, anigu waxan ku sheegey uun waxa meesha ka socday , do you really think politicians would openly admit they are plotting loool. Those are dumb politicians if they do lol.

^^ Somalia will not recognize Somaliland, there is a bigger chance Israel withdrawing from the west bank and giving up all of its settlements. What we should aim for is yes recogntion but i know this is not going to happen , so we need to let these talks fail for good and tell the international community we try to reason with the Koonfurians but the talks have failed. And let them organize other talks with mediation or what ever rocks their boat and thats when we reach a final point to these talks.

^ He had to much guns he had to much diplomatic muscle but for to long which became his downfall .

Cambuulo iyo bun;968863 wrote: They weren't just talking about Jubbaland they where discussing federalism as well. Why would Shariif,Nuur cadde etc work against somalia when they infact struggled for somalia to come this far? What about geedi what about galaydh and cumar buur?

^^ Who ever has the most guns and the most diplomatic influence

^^ All the websites are writing it i dont mind if they are for the government if they were for the government why not hold a conference in Xamar why in kampala Nairobi ?

^^ Who do you want to win?

^^ Thats just bull why would they all meet and talk about Jubbaland when we all know Jubbaland is far from being separated from Somalia, its just a political dispute between the govt and admin in jubbaland. There is something else going on in Kenya and these politicians are up to something.

That is the way forward for both countries, we must get rid of emotions at all cost ,and use our brains, Somalia is better off with out Somaliland, and Somaliland is better off with out Somalia. if we can respect each other on that point, than indeed we can move forward.

Is it true what the second guy is saying that the Somaliland delegation rejected mediation between them and Somalia In London if that is true Dr bidaar screwed up big time.

^^ He joined the anti Culusow Camp

How is this the end of culusow just because failed politicians want attention lol.

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Wasiir xaglatoosiye oo Puntland ugu Baaqay in ay faraha kala Baxdo deeganka Sanaag Barri. xaglotoosiyeHargeysa(Waaheen) Wasiirka wasaarada Caafimadaka Somaliland Mudane saleebaan Ciise Axmed Xaglatoosiye ayaa maanta Dib Ugu Soo Laabatay Caasimada hargaysa Kadib marki Uu Ka Imid safar Shaqo uu uu ugu Maqnaa dalalka Kenya Iyo Djibouti Wasiirka Ayaa Ka Soo Dagey Gegada Diyaradaha Ee Cigaal Inter National Air-port Isaga oo Wasiirka taabtay kana Hadlay Shaqaaqooyin Dhawaan Ay Wadeen puntland waxaana uu Yidhi “ilaahay ayaa mahad leh igu soo nabad celiyey dalkaygii, waxaan ku maqnaa safar shaqo aan ku tagay wadanka Kenya kaas oo aan ku wada hadlaynay haayadaha deeqaha bixiya, wada hadalkayagaasi waxa uu ku saabsanaa sidii loogu dedaali lahaa adeegyada caafimaad ee Somaliland, “ wasiirku intaasi oo Kaliya Kuma uu so Gaba Gabeeyn Ee Waxaa uu Raaciyay. “Waxa kale oo aan soo maray wadanka jabuuti oo aan la soo kulmay wasiirka caafimaadka dalkaas, waxaanan uga mahad celinayaa wasiirka caafimaadka jabuuti deeq daawo ah oo ugu deeqay wadanka Somaliland.” “doorasho kama socota deegaamada bariga balse maamulka Puntland qas ayey Ka wadaan, waxanaan maamulka puntland u soo jeedin lahaa inay ka waantoobaan qaska iyo dhibka ay ka wadaan deegaankaas, wax doorasho ah oo ay ka dhacaya deegaankaasina ma jirto” “sida ugu dhakhsaha badan ayaan u tagayaa deegaanka buuhoodle, barnaamijkii nabadeed intii ka dhinayd waan dhamaystiraynaa.”ayuu yidhi wasiir Saleebaan

Somaliland: A Foreigner’s Perspective HARGEISA - "For a foreigner, coming to Somaliland it can feel a bit like stepping into a blank space on the map. Before I arrived in Hargeisa three weeks ago, I decided to educate myself about the country by reading everything I could. Unfortunately, given the limited levels of tourism and press coverage of this nation, even when I went on an active search for information, most of what I found was fragmentary, out-dated, and at the very worst contradictory. To my mind, though, that was no deterrence, but rather all the more reason to come here: to fill in these massive gaps in my personal knowledge of the region, to come to know Somaliland as best I can, and to bring that knowledge back to my little corner of the world. Given my personal interests in history and Islamic knowledge, I've spent a great portion of my time here exploring sites associated with the pre-colonial Islamic kingdoms that inhabited Somaliland. Thus far I have journeyed into the Awdal region, where I was able to visit numerous ruins, ancient cities, and burial sites. Fortunately for other tourists, some of the most impressive of these sites are actually the most accessible, located in the city of Zeila. While most of the sites in Zeila date to the time of the Ottoman Empire's presence on the northern Somali coast, their architecture is unique when compared to other Ottoman buildings and deserve attention and respect just for that fact. However, there are a number of even older historical sites in Zeila (the Qiblatain, although largely ruined, retains some notable features) and on Sa'ad ad-Din Island. Unfortunately not much is known about these old sites. In many cities and towns near the sites, I was saddened to find that those elders who knew the stories and legends associated with the region's history have either died of old age or were killed in the war preceding the withdrawal of Somaliland from Somalia. It is a strange and heartbreaking thing to witness history slipping away. And as this knowledge and respect for the historical sites departs with the death of those who knew about them, the sites themselves face serious threats. In Zeila, a number of structures have begun to collapse in recent years, while other Ottoman-era buildings, over five-hundred years old, have been reduced to trash pits, piled high with scraps of paper and used water bottles. Even more tragically, the site of Ex-Amud appears to have once been a massive settlement which could have been a world-class historical site and tourist attraction. But all of its structures have been torn down, looted for building materials to be used in modern developments. I have been able to learn much about the history of pre-colonial Somaliland from these sites and the remaining stories and poems associated with them. But I worry that in the future those who come, like me, with a historical interest in the region will find little to nothing left to explore. Somaliland's historical sites are, to be sure, only one element of what it has to offer to visitors and to the world (I intend to spend the next couple of weeks exploring modern life in Somaliland, leaving behind history to learn what the nation has to offer today). However, they are wonderful sites, historically noteworthy and deserving of future study. And thus they are worthy of the pride and protection of the Somaliland state. I have cherished the opportunity to visit these national treasures, and I deeply hope that many more will be able to share that opportunity and joy in the future." Mark Hay is also the writer of Somaliland is a real country according to Somaliland