Pirates do not understand the notion democracy , its better they go back to the faro taag style of selecting their leaders. It will only create problems for them.

I am going to love how this turns out:D

Mad mullah if 2.5 Million Eritreans can do it i am sure 7.5 Million Somalis can put up a fight , imagine if the Somalis in that region create a real entity that fights for independence with political and military wing. A real nationalistic movement which is all inclusive i believe they can do allot of damage. Somalia and Somaliland and Djibouti is not important in this they cant help the Somalis in that region maybe diplomatically logistically and to support them as Somalis. But the days they would go to war with ethiopia and to annex the Somali region as part of the Somali republic is long gone. I believe with a home grown nationalistic movement is what can free republic of Dhaantonia. But you need to create a distinct national identity which can help the people. People should not confuse the Somali region as a region under dispute between Somalia and Ethiopia. But as a region that is willing to be free the decolonization of Ethiopia needs to begin, under the self determination principle is what needs to be encouraged. Cooperating with other ethiopians is good oromo amhara TPDM.You can defeat any one aslong as you have a strategy a plan and the will to put up a fight. Revolution is not coming to Ethiopia, there is a tight control over the entire country, i believe it can only be achieved by war.

Lool@ Maaddeey

Qarax lagu Weeraray Xildhibaano ka tirsan Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya oo ka dhacay Degmada Xamarweyne ee Muqdisho Arbaco, July 24, 2013 (HOL) — Qarax xooggan ayaa goor-dhaw ka dhacay degmada Xamar-weyne ee gobolka Banaadir, kasoo ka dhashay gaari ay wateen xildhibaanno ka tirsan baarlamaanka Soomaaliya, iyadoo aysan jirin wax dhibaato ah oo xildhibaannada kasoo gaartay qaraxaas. Qaraxan oo ahaa ka dhashay miino lagu xiray gaariga ay xildhibaannadu wateen ayaa dilay qaar ka mid ah ilaaladii gaariga la socday iyo dadka shacab ah oo goobtaas ku sugnaa, waxaana burbur xooggan uu soo gaaray gaarigii. “Mar qura ayaan maqalay qarax aad xooggan wuxuuna ka dhacay meel ku dhow bacadlihii hore ee degmada Xamarweyne, baabuurka waxaa watay laba xildhibaan oo midkood uu ahaa Sheekh Aadan Mad-deer iyo mudane kale, markii ka dageen gaariga ayuuna qarxay,” ayuu HOL u sheegay mid ka mid ah goobjoogayaashii ku sugnaa goobta uu qaraxu ka dhacay. Dadka rayidka ah ee ku dhintay qaraxa ayaa la sheegay inuu yahay hal qof, iyadoo ay ku dhaawacmeen toddoba qof oo kale oo rayid ah, balse lama oga khasaaraha soo gaaray ilaaladii xildhibaannadan ee gaariga saarnaa markii uu qaraxu dhacayay. Ma jirto cid sheegatay inay weerarkan ka dambeyso, balse mas’uuliyiinta dowladda Soomaaliya ayaa ku eedeeya weerarrada noocan oo kale ah inay ka dambeyso Al-shabaab oo dagaal kula jirta. Wixii warar ah ee kasoo kordha waxaad kula socon doontaan wararkeenna dambe haddii ALLE ogoladao

http://www.boramanews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1460&catid=34&Itemid=53

^^ Waligay waxa kumaan hadlin anigu i like Wanlanweyn communities, hadal hayntooda wada sheekeysiga waalidooda warlordnimadooda diin ku dagalaankooda budhcad badeenimadooda,ciidamada afrikaankay isku adeegsanayeen nimankaas wa niman runti shaqo badan, La ima diidin, Bu this topic is not about them mar badan oo kale baanu iyaga ka wada sheekeysan doona hadu alle idmo wax badan banu isku hayna nimankas.

If the Somali galbeed region is seriously considering to break away from the Black Christian xabashi Empire , an empire conceived on subjugation and oppression of other African groups. There for the Somalis in that region need to be united under one political construct. Where as they unite their idea's and resources. Right now as noble the cause of the ONLF is they lack the effectiveness to make a real change on the ground, because the lack of resources the lack of political build up, the lack of logistical support. But also the deep divisions with in the Somali region between the various communities, it seems the people are exhausted to put up a fight and i can understand that what is there to fight for some ask themselves. But the political national identity which needs to be bit reshaped, the Somali region under Ethiopian occupation is often also called the O'gaden region. British expedition members first mentioned the region as the O'gaden country. In the sixties 70s we called the Somali region just the western Somali region and when asked about that region, the Somali politician elders historians and intellectuals just shortened with one sentence its the western Somali province snatched from us by the bug eyed Xabashis. But there is more to it the region is recognized by the west and the international community as a region under Ethiopia. The British occupied region when they drove out the Italians during the second world war, when they reinstated the rule of Haile selasie in Ethiopia. But as expected they handed the region over to Haile selasie including other provinces like the hawd and reserve area. The Somali region became a victim of European colonialists who signed tricky shrewd deals with other African colonizers the Abyssinians .The only way they can be defeated that is if the Somalis in the region develop a renewed national struggle and this time inclusive of all the regions i suggested they should refer the region as the republic of Dhaantonia and the citizens of that country as Dhaantonians. Dhaanto is the most well known folklore dances which has its roots in the Somali region and i am sure all the Somalis preform it in that region.I know many of the hard core ONLF supporters i have a word with them their argument is most of the time if you dont like our Jabhad why not start your own jabhad with your own clan name. But if the other clan also creates the Afro hashimite resistance movement, or the Jesus liberation front of Shinile. You only create more divisions and the independence struggle will just be derailed.What needs to be created is a national struggle for all the Somalis in that region. Because a clan cannot defeat Ethiopia lets not kid our selves Ethiopia receives military aid from the united states billions of dollars every year. Only together independence can be achieved and the intruders the oromo peasants can be send back to their land.

^^ I dont really care much about that Somaliland has recognized it self that is the most important thing, but the Ukrainians are our friends and our closest people.

This is not going to work because the King will have a Qabiil and Somalia cannot have a royal family.Unless you pick a Somali with out a qabiil. Bu that is impossible a Somali with out a qabiil is no Somali.

So now we have to generalize all Ukrainians for what a few do, Its like saying all Saudis are terrorists because they were hijackers of the airplanes that flew into the twin towers in 2001. Ukraine is one of the best nations, it has one of the fastest growing economies and its people are very welcoming.

Gar_maqaate;970357 wrote: Ok now it the help of google maps or with the help fellow of "somalilanders", can you please name only four even three villages/town/places which are on somaliland's well defined border with Somalia?. The boundaries are clear the Anglo Italian border treaty between Somalia and Somaliland This is all of Africa, Somaliland is no different than any other country in Africa the only difference it made a union with Somalia unfortunately. But when it comes to the legality of the Somaliland state its no different than Kenya Tanzania Nigeria Ghana and so on.

^^ Its not what i believe its the fact this happened 53 years ago, there is no other example in Africa , can you name any nation in Africa that consisted out of 2 countries that merged and formed a union. It doesn't exist. Only the former dissolved Somali republic. Even the African union clearly stated that Somaliland case for statehood is not one of secession. Somaliland and Somalia union law 3. (1) All persons who upon the date of this Union possess the citizenship of Somaliland and Somalia respectively shall by this Union now become citizens of the Somali Republic. (2) All persons who hereafter would, but for this Union, have become citizens of Somaliland or Somalia respectively under the law of either of the two uniting States as presently subsisting, shall hereafter become citizens of the Somali Republic. THE UNION OF SOMALILAND AND SOMALIA LAW Preamble: WHEREAS the State of Somaliland achieved independence and ceased to be under British protection or within the jurisdiction and sovereignty of Her Britannic Majesty on the 26th day of June, 1960 (being Muharram 1st 1379): AND WHEREAS the State of Somalia achieved its independence and ceased to have the status of a Trust Territory of the United Nations Organization administered by the Republic of Italy on the 1st of July, 1960 AND WHEREAS it is the will of the peoples of Somaliland and Somalia that their States shall united shall forever be united in the Somali Republic: NOW, we the signatories hereof being the duly authorized representatives of the peoples of Somaliland and Somalia and having vested in us the power to make and enter into this Law on behalf of our respective States and peoples do hereby solemnly and in the name of God the compassionate and Merciful agree as follows:- Union: 1. (a) The State of Somaliland and the State of Somalia do hereby unite and shall forever remain united in a new, independent, democratic, unitary republic the name whereof shall the SOMALI REPUBLIC. (b) The Capital of the Somali Republic shall be Mogadiscio.

Wiil cusub waxasi wa broboganda madowga shaqo haysan eeh dawarsada eeh dadka dhaca wa in wadanka laga mustafuriya waxba ma so kordhinayaan. Ukrain wa wadan aad u horumaray aadna u qurux badan dadkoodu na wa dad aad u wanaagsan.

He changed his initial stance because he saw it was never going to materialize he saw there is no equal partner in south who believe in the union. He also said in the 53 years exigence of the Somali state there was never ever a president from Somaliland. Legal case for statehood Somaliland gained independence like any other country in Africa with defined territory defined political structure and with its own army and government made a union with Somalia.Somaliland case is not a country that wants to secede from another country, Somaliland with its own distinct history. they were 2 states who made a union professor samatar explained it in the video.

Ukrainian woman The Army

He was only against the independence but he never rejected its legality to its statehood. He was a firm believer of the union to keep the union intact at all cost that was his aim. But after 22 years he saw that those who claim to love the union are not really interested in a union. He had no other choice to leave them altogether. What did you expect him to do to stay in Mogadishu and Somalia, and do nothing at all?

Foreign troops are really the same only people blinded by clan believe Ethiopia is good Kenya is bad or Kenya is good Ethiopia is bad or Uganda is good and Burundi is bad. Non of them support Somali interests non of them will be good for Somalia. If only Somalis trusted each other instead of the foreigners they would not be in this mess

INTERVIEW-Ethiopian troops quit Somali city, but no full withdrawal planned Ethiopia's Foreign Minister Tedros Adhanom speaks during a joint news conference with Algeria's Foreign Minister Mourad Medelci in Algiers June 30, 2013. REUTERS/Ramzi Boudina Reuters.gif Tuesday, July 23, 2013 Ethiopia has begun pulling troops out of a former rebel stronghold in Somalia, but it has no plans for a complete withdrawal from the fight against al Qaeda-linked insurgents, its foreign minister said on Monday. Somalia has enjoyed relative calm after military offensives by African Union (AMISOM) peacekeepers and Ethiopian troops, who have pushed al Qaeda-allied al Shabaab from urban strongholds in central and southern Somalia. But suicide attacks have reinforced concerns the militants remain a potent force and Ethiopia's sudden withdrawal in March from Hudur - the capital of Bakool province near the Ethiopian border - enabled al Shabaab to retake the town. Foreign Minister Tedros Adhanom said Ethiopia had begun pulling out of Baidoa - once considered the most important rebel city after the port of Kismayu - because it was now relatively stabile and Somali forces were able to take over. "The withdrawal from Baidoa should have been done almost a year ago but AMISOM was not ready and that could not be done," he told Reuters in an interview. Ethiopia seized the city, about 250 km (150 miles) northwest of Mogadishu, last year. "I am now glad that there is a well organised and planned withdrawal and the space is already being occupied by Somali forces," Adhanom said. After a 2006-2009 stint, Ethiopia once again sent troops to Somalia in 2011 to fight al Shabaab, alongside African Union forces from Uganda and Burundi and Kenyan troops that later incorporated the AMISOM mission, after entering Somalia independently to pursue al Shabaab. Addis Ababa pledged at the time that its forces would stay in the war-ravaged country until Somalia's government could ratify a new constitution and its ragtag military was able to fend off the militant Islamist threat on its own. Tedros said Ethiopia's aim now was to deploy in areas where the rebels appeared to have a far stronger presence. He expressed confidence that Somali troops would be able to stand their ground in places Ethiopia left. Ethiopian troops may deploy back to areas they have left if AMISOM and Mogadishu asked for their return, he said. ON THE RUN "That is what is needed when al Shabaab is on the run - the best use of our forces instead of stationing them in just certain places," he said. "I don't think there is a need to put a deadline for complete withdrawal because they (troops) will be engaged in one end every now and then, based on the need." Diplomats say Ethiopia has a contingent of around 8,000 troops in the country. The overthrow of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991 plunged Somalia into two decades of violence, first at the hands of clan warlords and then Islamist militants, while two semi-autonomous regions - Puntland and Somaliland - have emerged in northern Somalia. U.N. sanctions experts said this month that Eritrea was undermining stability by paying political agents and a warlord linked to Islamist militants to influence the Mogadishu government. Tedros accused Eritrea - long at odds with Ethiopia over an unresolved border dispute - of supporting the rebels. "We have evidence that Eritrea is continuing to support al Shabaab," he said. "I think the international community should really take this seriously and take serious action especially in terms of strengthening the sanctions that have already been imposed by the U.N." Eritrea denies playing any negative role in Somalia, saying it has no links to al Shabaab. It says U.N. sanctions imposed on it in 2009 for supporting the insurgents were based on lies and has called for the sanctions to be lifted. (Editing by George Obulutsa and Robin Pomeroy)

How did he discredit his career work there are Somalis who dont believe in the closely tied Somali people. But the Professor is not one of them . Samatar believed he said i tried to promote Somaliweyn for the last 2 decades, Laakin as he said it markanu xamar geyney walana la garan waayey. And he is right, so there is nothing that stops him to join his people. Professor samatar is an educated man who is one of the well learned professors with in the Somali society so lets give credit where its due.

Professor Axmed Samatar was forced to change the situation changed he miscalculated he not the natural flipflopper he is an academic scholar. He is still firmly believes in the Somali as one race , he just believes sharing nations between the Somalis is unreachable goal and is infeasible. He explained what caused that in several interviews he gave. I am looking forwards of his August lecture.

^^ Lol Somalia claiming Somaliland oil , why dont they try that and see what happens.

Somaliland police receive 20 emergency police vehicles HARGEISA-Somaliland’s Police Commissioner Abdilahi Fadal Iiman has received 20 emergency lightning police cars from the new minister of interior Ali Mohamed Warancade on Tuesday. The New Interior Minister has been in charge of the ministry for short period and according to reports that he managed to help the police to get enough cars to do their national duty. Once the Interior minister was about to take office, he pledged to rebuild the police in the country. Ceremony where the keys were given to the police Commissioner, Somaliland’s Minister of Interior said that the purpose is to give the police the capability to respond to situations where they are needed to respond very swiftly. The Interior Minister told police will use emergency lightning cars to conduct their daily day tasks. He added that 10 other emergency lightning cars will be brought to the country and will be distributed to other regions of the country. Somaliland’s police Commissioner accepted the donation from the minister of interior and extended thanks to him. He admitted that police were desperately in need of emergency lightning police vehicles in a bid to discharge their duty. He called upon the community to work with the police and to report immediately if they smell a rat. He made clear that police are ready to respond to every call from the community with immediacy and asked them to call 999 for

metta;970215 wrote: HAG is the most powerful entity in Somalia today. That can't be denied. This is why everyone is crying about HAG. If HAG was weak, there would be absolutely no need for anyone to criticize it. This is why SAHAL media is making articles about HAG everyday whereas HAG media don't even acknowledge the existence of others. HAG is a serious threat. It will only get stronger each month when the military gets larger. Don't dismiss HAG for a weak entity. HAG is friendly but HAG is not weak. HAG can be a teddy bear and a grizzly bear at the same time. Listen, recognition is not in the interest of Hassan Sheikh or his people. Recognition is not even in the interests of Somaliland. The world is yet to see a pro-Somaliland administration. All the administrations Somaliland has ever had were very sympathetic to a re-union. Listen, if Somaliland is governed by politicians from the previous regime like Silanyo, Riyale and Egal for the next 5-10, then Somaliland will return to the union. My dream is for Warabe to be President. Warabe is personal friends with HAG. He meets with HAG politicians around the world in non-official governmental meetings and has dinner with them in fancy Dubai restaurants. Warabe is also from south Hargeisa, the most humble Somalilanders. Very easy to speak with and friends to be with. Warabe can be a real friend for HAG. You need HAG. Don't underestimate the power of HAG or you will be sorry. Dude easy with the empty bravado HAG is guarded by African union troops they have no control over Somalia the Sahal crew are just making noise not because you are a threat to them but because they want to undermine culusow because he acts as if he wants to be a threat to their objective Jubbaland and clan federalism. HAG is opposed to clan federalism because they cant organize them selves as a clan every HAG is based in Mogadishu now the middle regions have no federal state. And HAG is united today to stop sahal creating a majority state in Kismayo. HAG politics is very simple but HAG has no power no executive control over the land of Somalia. IGAD has more say in Somalia than HAG. HAG was powerful in the early 90s right now they have nothing to show for , they wasted their resources in silly clan infighting As for Somaliland they are talking to Somalia not because they like you but the IC called for the talks. But the talks are not heading any where we know HAG has not the power to give into the demands of Somaliland. Because that would be the end of the SFG. both Puntland and Jubbaland will cut of ties or even break away we know this HAG is terrified because of that , so they want to cooperate with Somaliland on some issues. Somaliland knows this they went along with it with the talks but they know HAG has no power had HAG been in powerf from raaskambooni to raascaseer. Somaliland would've taken HAG serious. Metta Sultan faisal does not like you what is HAG and their love for Sultan Faisal. Faisal thinks HAG is the lesser evil compared to Sahal. But he does not like u he meets with you because he wants to create relationship with you. remember he is the same man who said ethiopians are closer to me than reer mogadishu. Lol Rayaale being against Somaliland independence president Rayaale told senior US officals we would go to war if needed to protect our statehood. Egal was busy making peace between reer Somaliland building institutions in his last yearS he searched for recogntion he wanted to remodel Somalia but Geele of Djibouti took the project , Cigaal was a very smart man. Silaanyo is the longest serving SNM Chairman the man has done allot for Somaliland he radically changed Somaliland foreign policy for the good creating investments starting oil projects Found a way to get investment and doing trade with other countries using the SDC. Opened up talk with Somalia, silaanyo is a very smart man. HAG is not needed, HAG just need to be HAG if they can do that everything will be good:D