Classified;971519 wrote: Iminka adiguna ma waxa leedahay qaabilada Somaliyeed ee waqooyiga deega, sida DH (SSC), I (Hargeisa), G (Awdal), W (Makhir) iyo C (Zeylac), were once together under one government with parliament, military force, and administration BEFORE the arrival of the British Colonials? They had their separate sultanates but they were all related lived in the same land for centuries. Actually emir sharmarke ruled much of awdal for 80 years he and his son before the colonialists arrived, and the zeila and other awdalites were under his jurisdiction, the fact these people of Somaliland were never ever part of Somalia.or part of a country called Somalia before 1960. Ethiopian nationalists have a better claim to Eritrea than Koonfurians have to Somaliland. Before colonialist came more than 70% of what is today Eritrea was under Ethiopian rule. Somaliland on the other hand was never part of Somalia, only for the short lived experiment and soon Somaliland independence will reach 30 years and it will out live the failed union, god willing. Even the Garaad clan had nothing to do with the rest of Somalia they were living close to Burco area and raided together their own kin while being allied to different other Somaliland subclans. There was no clanism back than , for example the Sanaag garaad clans and the SNM clans of Sanaag used to raid the Buhoodle clans. The only argument koonfurians have against Somaliland we should come under one country because we love it and because we speak the same language but nation hood and statehood cannot be based on a mere language. If that was the case the Koonfurians would want the Djiboutians to be part of their country. This is not the case if that was the case the Arab speaking nations would be one country , this also not the case nationhood, and so called ethno nationalism is not the same. The People of Somaliland share a distinct history tradition culture ancestry and blood line political culture, which goes back for centuries and centuries.

You are missing point the reason the MP asked if Britain and Somaliland already established diplomatic relations was that Somaliland gained independence as an independent state , only a sovreing state forges relations with other nations, reason why he is asking But we know that when Somalia and Somaliland united under the Somali republic they started opening up embassies in the world. Why need an act of union why even hold a referendum for the union if it was a mere territory if it was not a state of it own. So are you saying Somalia expanded into Somaliland and there was never a union , Somalia a state , the people of Somaliland never knew before first of July. Certainly before 1896 Somalia was never heard of . Your argument is very contradicting and it doesn't go in par with the reality. Another fabrication Somaliland was never Somalia , Somaliland was never called Somalia the 2 states united under the name of the Somali republic. As it says in the union law. Unless you believe that was falsely created by Somaliland nationalists.

Why are British Parliament debating Somaliland and calling it a state this is very strange on top of that why are they asking if Somaliland exchanged diplomatic representatives with Britain. The Brits were there signed a treaty with the Somaliland communities, these are colonial treaties the entity of Somaliland was well defined under colonial rule, The Anglo italian border the Anglo French border and so on. Your argument makes no sense at all. What Garmaqaate fails to understand after 1905 The British protectorate as an entity came directly under the colonial office If we have to follow Garmaqate logic and say the treaties were never legal. does that mean we were never colonized or protected. The Fact is Somaliland gained independence just like any other nation the Brits left it had its own judiciary system defined borders distinct history its own prime minister Parliament. And they made a union with a state called Somalia with their own leaders. Anigu ninkan ila hada maan fahmin ada ma wuxu ina leeyahay cidi ba idin ma isticmaarsan waxad ahaydeen dad xor ah, oo hadaan isticmaar jirin muxu ingriisku berbera ka qabanayey iyo hargeisa iyo xeeabaha oo dhan.

UK parliament 1960 Mr Reginald Sorensen (Leyton) asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if the independent State of Somaliland has now exchanged diplomatic representatives with this country; and how many Somalis in this country have now been classified as aliens. Mr Reginald Sorensen (Leyton) asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if the independent State of Somaliland has now exchanged diplomatic representatives with this country; and how many Somalis in this country have now been classified as aliens. Commander Robert Allan (Paddington South) The union between Somaliland and Somalia to form the Somali Republic was acclaimed on 1st July and Mr. T. E. Bromley presented his credentials as first British Ambassador to the Republic on that date. The Somali Republic have not yet appointed a diplomatic representative in London. http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=1960-07-25a.1068.8

Zimbabweans face third Mugabe-Tsvangirai showdown Economy key in Zimbabwe polls 11:50am EDT Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe addresses a media conference at State house in Harare, on the eve of the country's general elections, July 30, 2013. REUTERS/Philimon Bulawayo By Ed Cropley HARARE | Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:03pm EDT (Reuters) - Zimbabweans go to the polls on Wednesday in a fiercely contested election pitting President Robert Mugabe against Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai, who has vowed to push Africa's oldest leader into retirement after 33 years in power. With no reliable opinion polls, it is hard to say whether the 61-year-old Tsvangirai will succeed in his third attempt to unseat the 89-year-old Mugabe, who has run the southern African nation since independence from Britain in 1980. Both sides are forecasting landslide wins but, in a country with a history of election violence, the bigger question is whether the loser will accept the result of a poll dogged by logistical problems and allegations of vote-rigging. Asked on the eve of the vote if he and his ZANU-PF party would accept defeat, Mugabe was unequivocal: "If you go into a process and join a competition where there are only two outcomes, win or lose, you can't be both. You either win or lose. If you lose, you must surrender." A spokesman for Tsvangirai's Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) said the party was prepared only to accept the results if the poll was "free and fair." Mugabe's words were in marked contrast to the thrust of what he described as an "energy-sapping" campaign, and may tamp down fears of a repeat of the violence that broke out after he lost the first round of an election in 2008. Around 200 Tsvangirai supporters were killed in the unrest before South Africa brokered a power-sharing deal that stopped the bloodshed and stabilized the economy, but established a government characterized as fractious and dysfunctional. Western election observers have been barred from the elections, leaving the task of independent oversight to 500 regional and 7,000 domestic monitors. Polls open at 1 a.m. ET and close at 1 p.m. ET, with the results expected well within the five-day legal limit. Around 6.4 million people, or half the population, are registered to vote. The verdict of observers is crucial to the future of Zimbabwe's economy, which is still struggling with the aftermath of a decade-long slump and hyperinflation that ended in 2009 when the worthless Zimbabwe dollar was scrapped. If it gets broad approval, there is a chance that Western sanctions may be eased, allowing Harare to normalize relations with the IMF and World Bank and access the huge amounts of investment needed to rebuild its dilapidated economy. Despite this, Tsvangirai urged African monitors not to give the vote the thumbs-up merely because they do not witness bloodshed. "Mugabe is the world's oldest leader and one of its longest-ruling dictators. He is fixing this election in a more sophisticated fashion than previous ZANU-PF campaigns of beatings, killings and intimidation," he wrote in an editorial in the Washington Post. "Mugabe's election-stealing antics have been documented throughout Zimbabwe and beyond. Yet the international community seems apathetic; perhaps Mugabe has been stealing elections for so long the world just rolls its eyes and moves on." (Reporting by Ed Cropley; Editing by Stacey Joyce)

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Waligay anigu professorka ma cayin xita berigu u ololeyn jiray Koonfurianska waabaan u duceyn jiray, remember anigu dadka reer somaliland eh somalia taga waxba kama sheego whether its Buuba Fawziya Xaaji Godane and others. Taleexi beryahan wabaad soo dhawanaysa hada baad aad tolnimadeeni qireysey, waisu so dhawanay.. Inaynan kala marmayn waligay baan wa oga inshallah mar baynu taleex ku wada afuri doona.

Taleexi Professorka maxaad ku nacday nimanki Muqdisho bu ka so quustay in anaay marnaba Somaliweyn u dacaad ahayn bu ogaada marka maxa u diidaya inu dadkisa u tago, adiguba taleexi maalin uun baad saaxiga keeni.

STOIC;971374 wrote: Don't glamorized for us the words of this twisted soul whose heart is molded into blind hatred of all Somalis.His hate maybe directed at the non-muslim African Union. but his actions is also hostile against Somalis. Why you calling him Amir? This guy should rot in hell and may the next bullet from anyone hit his Somali forehead..... STOIC no one is denying he is a Takfiri and no one is glamorizing his words these were just his words i haven't added anything as for Amir, well thats the tittle he carries for the Shabaab organization.

Well the only difference is Kenya is recognized by the wider world and Somaliland is not but they have the same history which defines them as a state entity. where the Brits took part of their land and gave it to the italian colonialists the same they gave the hawd and reserve area to the Ethiopians. It doesn't make kenya less of an illegitimate entity, because of what the brits did. All African nations are the same in their history except for Liberia Ethiopia who were never colonized.And Somaliland after gaining Independence joined with another nation called Somalia. If there was never a state than how come there was an act of union, why was there the union law.

You cannot change the website rules clan names are censored and will be censored.

Oke pirate:D

Alpha Somaliland has more right to name themselves Somali than the Koonfurians the nomadic way of Somali culture is integral part of Somaliland heritage. Somaliland is the only country with 100% Somali speaking people Djibouti has afar and french speaking people. Somalia is more diverse more than 25% of the population is not even from the ethnic Somali society. The language the nomadic culture is Somalilands, there are many things Somalia and Somaliand are different , when it comes to ethics political culture history nationality traditions. Even the traditional clothing the Sabaaxili hat is not even part of our custom and traditional clothing. Odayaal at the age of 80 told me we never wore those saabixili hat but when we went to Kenya many afro hashimiates went to Kenya to find jobs there in British east Africa. Thats how they got into contact with the saabixili hat. So i believe the name Somaliland stays its very good name Somali and land we are Somali speaking people and this is our land.

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Haa aniga leh

Waxasi wa iska aflagado raqiis ah Piracy wa wax ka jira deeganada u ka taliyo Faroole, waxana jira cadaymo muhim ah faroole iyo kooxdisa ay lug ku leeyihin Budhcad badeednimada. Maha wax aan anigu iska sameystey.I dont know how sodomy has any connection to Somaliland , bal ino sheega?

Amiir Godane changed his tactics which was to have sleeper cells in ,major cities Mogadishu baydhabo beledweyne and Kismayo to create instability in those places u will hear road side bomb suicide attacks this is caused by the new strategy it seems Alshabaab have been studying Taliban art of warfare against the Americans ISAF. Where as they are given time to regroup attack on their own strength retreated when needed to avoid major clashes and unnecessary losses. Another problem which made it easy for Alshabaab is the interior minister the defense minister the whole national security team who are unable to perform with their incompetency to protect the SFG and Somalia from Alshabaab. i dont usually say this but the Garowe clan enclave has a team called Ahshaado la dirir specialized to combat Jihadists and other extreme elements the SFG needs to set up similar like that if they want to to stop Alshabaab.

Piracy is their profession that does not mean i am calling them that because of their clan but because of their profession.

Cambuulo you are a typical Koonfurian there is a difference between Qabyalaad and Tolnimo the people in lower shabelle are Tol who have some disputes tol people fight. Qabyalaad is hadaad qof nacdid becase wa reer hebel ama reer hebel bu ka so jeeda oo aad wax gocatid. For Koonfurians Qabyalaad Tolnimo Qabil is all the same they cant tell the difference waxay ku odhanyaan khabiilka naga dhaaf nooh. Qabil is an identity of the Somali sub groups nothing wrong with that the clan disputes in lower shabelle will have a clan solution. Sidu xeerku aha.

No clan talk , dadkan Qabyalaad ba walaay have a civilized topic with out talking about clan no mentioning of clan names i agree with the SOL founding fathers. They are making Somalis better people walahi, noolada.

Adigu ma Quraan baad Akhrida markad Xaaji Xayrana igu yeedhasysid mise duco baad igu darta , bal waalida inta leeg eega, wa wax is wada burinaya, wa iska caadi budchadka u hili Ramadan karim now bye

Waliga ba budhcadka u hili

Why are the pirates so concerned about what happens in lower shabelle dont you know the 2 clans who are feuding are closer to each other than you think.

He is a clown and need to be locked up

You have a crazy way of reasoning so if the Brits hand over the hawd and reserve area to Ethiopia does that mean they did not have treaties with Somaliland tribes. If that was the case Kenya is no entity either remember Jubbaland was part of Kenya or British east Africa before they gave it to the Italians. You are comparing colonial treaties between Somaliland tribes with bilateral relations between 2 states.