I have to say the pirates are very sharp

Taleexi;972976 wrote: I wished rationality was part of your dictionary. I believe Khatumo one way or another has to deal with and come terms with PL and SL but who are you when you are giving choices what Khatumo should do - If I use the same logic - how many individuals from the subsequent transitional governments of Mogadishu came to Hargeisa, and no one minds their business so, after all, few zealots are milking the secession experimentation while the masses are misguided. Remember, everyone is a part of the main or we are individuals. Taleexi i am not giving choices to Khatumo the have so many choices they have so many options they can even create an autonomous state it all can happen. But do they have the desire to achieve that do they have the will to create such a state. Are the khatumo leadership interested in that. For example khatumo holds a few villages in eastern sool taleex bocaame buurawadal and others. But the Puntland admin comes in and tries to undermine Khatumo. The leadership of Khatumo does little to stop them. Cali sandule is captured when he was touring northern sool he is released after a few hours. i than think how is khatumo going to create a state, when its making such errors. I remember when the SNM clans were rastafarians in the 80s and they were fighting the siad bare regime. if they captured a person working for the regime they either used to convert him to SNM or they used to torture him or they would kill him, to send a message. It doesn't mater if he belonged to the clan or not, he was working for the enemy. Taleexi the so called members working for the previous TFG if they want to come to Somaliland they have to ask for forgiveness and repent. These guys hold no power but how can u compare the powerless TFG officials with the powerful garaad clan officials who are part of Somaliland government The powerless TFG officials of the past could not enforce their law they have been humiliated jailed and deported from Somaliland

Haatu;972972 wrote: The Mogadishu government is sadly just that, a Mogadishu Government. Is SNM/Somaliland want independence, I say go idinka iyo Ilaaheygiin but don't claim other clan's territory as part of your clan project. I genuinely wouldn't like it and would advice you lot to stay as you are until a proper Somali government comes and then make a deal with them as I don't believe Independence will solve anything but if you guys seriously believe that is the best way forward then goodbye and good luck, but just stick to your lands. First of all no one is claiming any land Somaliland rules the regions it rules because the people of those region are in agreement.I believe in post civil war that no clan could occupy another clan. When Khatumites say we are occupied they are not telling the whole truth, in and around sool there are close to 5000 troops well trained and 90% of them are of the Garaad clan. I believe how can there be so many troops in post civil war be one the enemy side or the occupying force.If Somaliland was a clan state how is it a possible a clan can occupy another clan. This never happened between the SNM clans and the garaad clans and they lived in the region for centuries together.

Taleexi Khatumo leaders need to convince their masses that being part of Somalia is better for the garaad clan than being part of Somaliland. I mean how hard is that if they can convince the garaad clan that being part of Mogadishu is better and will bring prosperity. I believe they can convince the rest of Somaliland to. Somaliland is not holding sool at a gun point, if that was the case when Khatumo Militia captured Ali sandule the current Minister for SL on eastern affairs they released him with in 6 hours. Why was that either khatumo does not want to convince their population or they just just like the current status. Or they are not honest that they are opposed to Somaliland.

Taleexi your last point is good so khatumo needs to fix her own house for her to create a state. Yes it is true that SL people want recognition, but remember the recognition demand is not asked because they believe it will fix SL from wit in or it will make SL a viable strong state. But because they believe they have done everything to be a recognized state. Where as the Khatumites seem to be more that they are looking for a miracle to come from Mogadishu. U have tight your aspirations to others , but if u have a khatumite state you can do what ever u like. The pirates next to you seem to have created a state for themselves and they are like if Mogadishu wants to come in terms with us we will work with them. I think the Khatumites can learn a few things from the Pirates.

No they are new one. The Suldaan was unhappy because he believed the ranking was not being done efficiently

Haatu does that mean u support that Mogadishu has no claim over Somaliland.

Haatu;972956 wrote: If SNM can have Somaliland and SSDF can have Puntland then it's only fair for SSC to have Khaatumo. You forget and if USC can have Mogadishu SPM/ONLF can have kismayo

I am not sure if the whole coming together is happening any time soon, the garowe clan enclave and Mogadishu are so far apart politically economically. I some times believe the Khatumites are a bit gullible, no offense there since they are my people. Are they hoping for a messiah or something who would miraculously unite the Somali peninsula. I honestly believe there are major obstacles facing the khatumites whether the communities who want to see an autonomous khatumo or the diaspora who also want to see an independent khatumo. But either the leadership are not serious, right now khatumo is in a situation worse than they were before the ssc formation. Ofcourse they can change their situation if they come together and are honest with each other. What is holding them back from creating a state is it Puntland is it Somaliland is it Mogadishu is it themselves. All in all i wish them the best thing and i hope they make the right decision.

The khatumo leaders are not serious about creating a state, ofcourse conferences are needed what have they achieved the past 18 months. I am hearing the Professor galaydh wants to become the new president of Khatumo.

Alpha Muhammad farah gets the best training ever even though bille was good, he never received the training the brits give to Muhammad farah.Muhammad farah will go down in the history books as the best long distance athlete the world has ever seen. The Brits should consider to knight him. He defeated the double champion Ibrahim Jeilan the Ethiopian.

The borama conference was the most important conference ever held in Somaliland. Its where the transition period ended of the SNM government. Its where the Somaliland elders intellectuals politicians influential people Business people clerics came together and moved Somaliland forward. Where we sat at sheikh Ali Jawhar secondary school in Borama for days and days, the people of Somaliland till this day remember it as a turning point in their history.

Mo Farah wins world 10,000m title in close finish in Moscow • Briton finishes strongly in time of 27min 21sec • Farah pushed hard in the final straight by Ethiopian The Observer, Saturday 10 August 2013 16.34 BST Mo Farah Mo Farah crosses the line to win gold in the men's 10,000 metres final at Moscow. Photograph: Julian Finney/Getty Images Mo Farah won gold in the 10,000m at the 2013 IAAF World Athletics Championships in Moscow in a time of 27min 21sec. The race began at an easy pace over the first 2,000m, after which Farah moved effortlessly to the front, a tactic that brought two Ethiopian runners forward to increase the speed. Farah then settled in between his two training colleagues, Dathan Ritzenheim and Galen Rupp in the middle of the stretched-out field. The first 5,000m were covered in a gentle 13min 49sec, which entirely suited a very relaxed-looking Farah, with nobody apparently willing to take the initiative. The Kenyan Moses Tanui led the field for several laps and into the last 2,000m, before Farah moved again to the front with four laps to go. Ritzenheim and Rupp briefly passed Farah, but the Briton worked his way to the lead with two laps to go and Rupp a protective presence on his shoulder. As the bell sounded, Farah stretched his legs and kicked, but Ethiopia's Ibrahim Jeilan came strongly on to his shoulder, and for a moment it looked less than a foregone conclusion. Down the home straight, though, the Briton found an extra ounce of pace to add the world championship to his Olympic title.

Mo Farah wins 10,000m title at World Championships in Moscow Double Olympic champion Mo Farah won his first 10,000m world title with a brilliant sprint finish in Moscow. The Briton, 30, powered down the home straight to win in 27 minutes 21.71 seconds at the World Athletics Championships. Ethiopia's Ibrahim Jeilan, who beat Farah in Daegu in 2011, took silver and Kenyan Paul Tanui the bronze. Farah is expected to try and repeat his London 2012 distance double by defending his 5,000m title next week. "I had the experience from two years ago," Farah told BBC Sport. "I knew I just had to cover every move and the guys were going to go out there to take a lot out of me. I was just digging in, digging in. "It was nice to come out here and win it. Training's been really hard. "I've spent a lot of time away from my family and when I came home for the Anniversary Games, my little daughter didn't even recognise me. But it's definitely been worth it."

The pirates never liked the Turks so this is understandable

Resolutions of a joint teleconference meeting between the Higher Council of Elders and the G11 held on August 8, 2013 A joint meeting of the Higher Council of Elders and the G11 was held on August 8, 2013. The joint meeting highlighted the need for the Khaatumo community to re-dedicate itself to the core principals of unity, peace and development. The clear and present need for the liberation of the occupied towns and areas were discussed at length. The joint meeting passed the following resolutions: ? Khaatumo THREE meeting is to be held in Taleh starting on August 20, 2013 in which all the Higher Council, G11, members of the current administration, and delegates from SSC territories and the Diaspora must attend. ? The Higher Council have to assemble in Taleh in the next three days and have to attend to the resolving of some of the outstanding issues and to helping finalize the preparatory work at hand. ? Members of the Higher Council, G11 and the administration have to address this coming Saturday August 10th, 2013 the Khaatumo Diaspora’s concerns with respect to the scheduling of the Khaatumo THREE meeting. ? Khaatumo THREE meeting will ratify the draft constitution and install the local parliament. The joint meeting emphatically is opposed to participating in ANY other regional/state parliaments. No elder is mandated to nominate members of parliament for other regions/states. ? Khaatumo THREE meeting will study the constitutionally mandated relationships among the Federal Government and the states/ regional governments. The meeting will focus specifically on the lacking support of Khaatumo by the Federal Authorities. ? Suleiman Haji Mohamed ( Wajixaad) has been appointed as the spokesperson of Khaatumo from August 8 to the formal opening date of Khaatumo THREE meeting.

Xisbiga WADDANI Oo Soo Dhaweeyay Darejooyinka La Siiyay Ciidammadda Somaliland August 10th, 2013 “Waxaanu rajaynaynaa in darejooyinku ay sii adkayn doonto dhismihii ciidammadda Iyo niyad samaantoodda” “Waxaanu u Arragnaa Qorshe Qaranku u baahnaa Oo La fuliyay” Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)- Xisbiga mucaaridka ah ee WADDANI, ayaa soo dhaweeyay isla markaana tallaabo qaran oo weyn ku tilmaamay qorshihii xukuumadda Somaliland ay todobaadkan darajooyinkii ciidammadda ugu qeybisay toban kun oo askari oo ka kala tirsan ciidammadda dalka noocyadooda kala duwan. Xisbiga WADDANI waxay sheegeen in xisbigoodu uu soo dhawaynayo hirgelinta iyo qeybinta Darejooyinka ciidammadda oo ay ku doodeen inay tahay mid soo noolaynaysa karaamadda iyo kala dambaynta ciidammadda, sida uu noo sheegay Xoghayaha Guud ee xisbiga WADDANI Mudane Maxamed Cabdilaahi Uur-cadde oo xalay u waramayay Tifaftiraha Guud ee wargeyska DAWAN Cumar Maxamed Faarax. “Darajooyinka ciidammadda ee la siiyay munaasibadii ciidul fidriga 10 kun oo askari oo ka kala tirsan qeybaha kala duwan ee ciidammadda Somaliland, waa guul qaranku gaadhay oo aanu xisbi ahaan ku faraxsan nahay soona dhawaynayno. Waxaanu jecel nahay xisbi ahaan inaanu Hambalyo iyo bogaadin u dirto 10-ka kun ee askari ee darejadda qaatay, Gudidii ka soo shaqaysay iyo xukuumadda Somaliland ee hirgelisay-ba. Waxaanu aaminsan nahay inay tahay qorshe qaranku u baahnaa oo la taabo-geliyay ama la fuliyay,”ayuu yidhi Maxamed Cabdilaahi Uur-cadde. Xoghayaha Guud ee xisbiga WADDANI waxa uu sheegay in ay ciidammadda Somaliland u rajaynayaan karaamo iyo sharaf isla markaana dhismahooda ay darejooyinku sii xoojin doonaan. “Waxaanu rajaynaynaa in darejooyinka la bixiyay ay sii adkayn doonto dhismihii ciidammadda iyo tayadoodaba, isla markaana ay kor u qaadi doonto niyad samaanta iyo karaamadda ciidanka, waxaana dhici doonta in tartan wax-qabad u bilaabmo ciidammadda qalabka sida oo mar walba aanu uga mahad celinayno doorka iyo kaalinta weyn ee ay ku leeyihiin dhismaha qaranka iyo adkaynta nabad-gelyadda Somaliland,”ayuu yidhi Xoghayaha Guud. Xigasho: WARGEYSKA DAWAN

Somaliland: Vice President Urges Country’s Armed Forces to Accept Award of Rankings August 9, 2013 Hargeisa, Aug 10, 2013 (SDN) — Somaliland Vice President Abdirahman Abdilahi Ismail (Zeili’i) called on all branches of Somaliland national armed forces to accept the newly initiated full scale armed forces rankings after the government awarded 10,000 serving officers pooled from the three branches of the country’s armed forces. “Government dared to provide full scale armed forces rankings. Previous governments have been afraid to dare and take such historic step for a long time, but eventually it became dream true for Kulmiye ruling government. Rankings given to the national forces might be not sufficient as expected, but I am calling for all members of Somaliland national forces to accept and congratulate each other.” Vice president said during Eidal Fidri’i prayer with thousands of Hargeisa people at Hargeisa Grand Mosque Mr. Zeili’I has also sent congratulatory message to all Somaliland people where ever they are for the sake of Eidal Fidri’I days. “Although we have been busy to establish the rankings of the security forces and tried our best to provide rankings, but still there can be errors and complaints by members of the armed forces and we can make mistakes because we are human but there are no intentional mistakes made by the committee for Armed forces Rankings.” Said Somaliland Vice President Seili’I, The Vice president finally urged all Somaliland people to unite for the development, construction and the peace enhancement in entire country and he also call all Somalilanders to pay everything to contribute realizing Somaliland’s recognition efforts. Somaliland president Ahmed Mohamed Silanyo In presidential decree has directed the ministry of Defense to institutionalize armed force’s chain of command by finalizing the award of ranks. The rankings awarded to 10,000 officers from the 3 branches of country’s armed forces as recommended by the report of the Armed forces ranking committee.

She is very close both to Ethiopia and Ghana

Carafaat;972889 wrote: +1 Absolutely, with recongnition comes foreign influences and interference in domestic issues. few African countries are strong enough to resist the foreign cultural, economic and political influences. Its been a blessing for Somaliland to develop its own model and in its own pace. Recognition is also needed for Somaliland passport to be accepted around the world to trade in Somalilands name,ofcourse Somaliland needs to develop the country first. But it also needs the cooperation of the rest of the world. And its also good from a legal point of view that Somaliland sovreingty is recognized. In order to protect themselves from external influences or those who want to undermine their independence. U cannot say its a blessing to be unrecognized. There are many countries the size of Somaliland or smaller who have done it take for example Eritrea,its one of the least influenced countries in Africa.

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Wiil Cusub;972862 wrote: All other 4 countries are in a part of democratic countries, which referendum is enough to make big change and they are part of highly develop regional organisation not silly African union and Arab league. To be realistic I thing Somaliland has lest chance and stronger determination than rest . Xaaji is dreaming if he expecting acceptance from Mogadisho I have never said there will be acceptance from Mogadishu that will never happen on their own , the only way we can go our seperate ways is if our great friends from Europe and America mediate between us. Than it will come and it will be very interesting. Laakin waliga ha sugin koonfurians to support Somaliland independence. You will find more Israelis supporting a independent Palestinian state than Koonfurians to support Somalilands quest for statehood.

This is what our beloved prophet Sayiduna Muhammad said in his last Khutbah All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety (taqwa) and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves. Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone. O People, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QURAN and my example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.

Muslims pray to the one true God , Allah Subxanawatacalla, they dont worship no man no other person its Shirk to worship any one but Allah.There is no threat coming from Arabs to Somalis,they are no threat to our heritage culture one reason they are intertwined.So it will not make sense to create a non existing enemy. Prophet Muhammad preached equality between Humans he was not send to Arabs but to all man Kind. His message is for all breathing humans on this planet. In islam u are not forced to wear Arab clothing this is another lie , and when it come to names its a good thing to name your children after the Sahaba or after the prophets and if you have other names aslong as it doesn't go against the teachings of islam as long as u dont have greek god names its good or something similar to that. One of the most revered islamic scholars were non Arabs. Sheikh Muhammad Bukhaari the hadith collector was a Persian Sheikh Al-Bayhaqi was a Persian. Sheikh Abdulqadir Gilani was a Persian Imam Junaid was a Persian.Abdullah ibn Salam was a sahaba he was of Jewish ancestry, he belonged to the group who were promised paradise. Along with Umar ibn Khatab abubark al sidiq , Sayidina Ali uthman and so on,he was part of that league. What about salman the Persian, who translated the first Quran from Arabic to Farsi, he was the sahaba who translated the quran into a foreign language. What about Salim Mawla Abu Hudhayfa it is said that Umar ibn khatab wanted him as his successor, but he died as a Mujahid There is a hadith that prophet muhammad said oo Muslims learn the Quran from Mawla abu hudhayfa. Islam is for all Human beings islam is the true religion and its superior to any religion on this planet. Arabs are Muslims they are part of the Ummah we pray also for them that allah leads them as he leads all the Muslims. Arabs and Somalis have no fundamental conflicting interests not in the horn not in Africa not else where.