Israeli PM Netanyahu: Iran nuclear deal 'historic mistake' By David Simpson and Josh Levs, CNN November 24, 2013 -- Updated 2113 GMT (0513 HKT) Watch this video Netanyahu: Deal is 'historic mistake' STORY HIGHLIGHTS NEW: Spokesman: "Israel always reserves the right ... to defend ourselves" The deal makes the world "a much more dangerous place," Netanyahu says "You are not our enemies," Israel's president tells Iranian people Last week, Iran's supreme leader said Israeli officials "cannot be even called humans" (CNN) -- [breaking news update at 4:12 p.m. Sunday] U.S. President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke Sunday about the Iran nuclear deal, White House Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest said. Speaking to reporters on Air Force One as Obama traveled to Seattle, Earnest said the two leaders had a "useful discussion" for about a half hour. [Original story, posted at 12 p.m. Sunday] Israeli PM Netanyahu: Iran nuclear deal 'historic mistake' (CNN) -- While the EU and the United States cheered a deal that world powers reached with Tehran over its nuclear ambitions, Israel was fierce in its criticism Sunday. "What was concluded in Geneva last night is not a historic agreement, it's a historic mistake," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told reporters. "It's not made the world a safer place. Like the agreement with North Korea in 2005, this agreement has made the world a much more dangerous place." "For years the international community has demanded that Iran cease all uranium enrichment. Now, for the first time, the international community has formally consented that Iran continue its enrichment of uranium." Washington said the changes called for in the agreement will make Iran less of a threat to Israel. "We believe very strongly that because the Iranian nuclear program is actually set backwards and is actually locked into place in critical places, that that is better for Israel than if you were just continuing to go down the road and they rush towards a nuclear weapon," U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry told CNN's "State of the Union." Netanyahu disagreed. Kerry comments on Iran deal Obama reacts to Iran nuclear deal Iran happy with 'first step' Reaction to deal in Tehran The deal, Netanyahu argued, leaves Iran "taking only cosmetic steps which it could reverse easily within a few weeks, and in return, sanctions that took years to put in place are going to be eased." "This first step could very well be the last step," he said. "Without continued pressure, what incentive does the Iranian regime have to take serious steps that actually dismantle its nuclear weapons capability?" Mark Regev, a spokesman for Netanyahu, said easing pressure will remove any motivation for Iran's leaders to make difficult decisions. "It's like having a small hole in your tire, a small hole in the sanctions regime," he said. "In the end, like with your tire, you'll get a flat." Kerry: 'Very little relief' for Iran Kerry argued the sanctions part of the agreement is hardly a boost for Iran. "There is very little relief. We are convinced over the next few months, we will really be able to put to the test what Iran's intentions are," Kerry told CNN chief political correspondent Candy Crowley. The deal says that the U.S. will provide $6 billion to $7 billion in sanction relief -- just a drop in the bucket compared to the roughly $100 billion in foreign exchange holdings that are inaccessible to Iran because of sanctions, the White House says. Iran insists its nuclear program is purely for civilian purposes, with no long-term goal of developing a nuclear weapons arsenal. But such assurances haven't quelled sharp skepticism from Israel. "If in five years, a nuclear suitcase explodes in New York or Madrid," said Naftali Bennett, the Israeli minister of trade and industry, "it will be because of the agreement that was signed this morning." Shimon Peres, Israel's president, sounded a different note. "This is an interim deal. The success or failure of the deal will be judged by results, not by words," Peres said in a statement. "I would like to say to the Iranian people: You are not our enemies, and we are not yours. There is a possibility to solve this issue diplomatically. It is in your hands. Reject terrorism. Stop the nuclear program. Stop the development of long-range missiles. Israel, like others in the international community, prefers a diplomatic solution. "But I want to remind everyone of what President Obama said, and what I have personally heard from other leaders. The international community will not tolerate a nuclear Iran. And if the diplomatic path fails, the nuclear option will be prevented by other means. The alternative is far worse."

Iran Nuclear Deal Reached At Talks In Geneva Israel's Prime Minister criticises the development as an "historic mistake" and reserves his country's right to defend itself.6:09pm UK, Sunday 24 November 2013 SWITZERLAND-IRAN-NUCLEAR-POLITICS-DIPLOMACY Video: Iran Nuclear Deal Agreed In Geneva Enlarge Measure against Obamacare gets bipartisan support Barack Obama speaks about the Iran nuclear deal from White House. Video: Obama: 'Deal Will Make World Safer' Enlarge Email An agreement has been reached between Iran and six world powers to curb Tehran's nuclear programme in exchange for limited sanctions relief. The deal, announced by European Union policy chief Catherine Ashton, is a first step towards resolving a decade-old stand-off between Tehran and the West. The agreement between the Islamic state and the US, Britain, France, Germany, China and Russia was nailed down after more than four days of negotiations in Geneva. US President Barack Obama said it was an important first step towards a comprehensive solution to Iran's nuclear programme. William Hague is in Geneva for talks with foreign leaders over Iran. William Hague hailed the agreement as 'very important and encouraging' He said Iran could not use its next-generation centrifuges under the deal and the limitations under the agreement "cut off Iran's most likely paths to a bomb". He added that if Iran did not meet its commitments during a six-month period, the US would turn off sanctions relief and "ratchet up the pressure". Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu criticised the nuclear deal as an "historic mistake" and reserved his country's right to defend itself. "Today the world became a much more dangerous place because the most dangerous regime in the world made a significant step in obtaining the most dangerous weapons in the world," he said. US Secretary of State Kerry shakes hands with Iranian Foreign Minister Zarif after a ceremony at the United Nations in Geneva US Secretary of State John Kerry and Iran's Mohammed Javad Zarif Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said the agreement recognises Tehran's "rights" to maintain a nuclear programme, and it would "never" seek atomic weapons. The country's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said: "This can be the basis for further intelligent actions. Without a doubt the grace of God and the prayers of the Iranian nation were a factor in this success." Britain's Prime Minister David Cameron said the deal leaves Tehran further from getting a nuclear weapon and "demonstrates how persistent diplomacy and tough sanctions can together help us to advance our national interest". Foreign Secretary William Hague said the agreement was "very important and encouraging", adding that it meant "the nuclear programme won't move forward for six months". However, he acknowledged that "legitimate concerns" remained. He and US Secretary of State John Kerry are holding talks in London today on the Iran deal and the latest developments in Syria. Speaking in London, Mr Kerry said: "This could not have happened if our friends had not come together to create sanctions and force sanctions and to press this agreement. "Now the really hard part begins; the effort to get the comprehensive agreement in terms of verification, transparency and accountability. "We are determined to work together. We will start today to congtinue the efforts out of Geneva. President Obama could not be more grateful for David Cameron's support." European Union foreign policy chief Ashton smiles next to Iranian Foreign Minister Zarif during a ceremony at the United Nations in Geneva European Union policy chief Baroness Catherine Ashton and Javad Zarif Mr Kerry offered assurances to Israel over the nuclear agreement, saying it would make the Jewish state safer over the next six months because the world would have "insights" into Iran's nuclear programme. Speaking on Iran's Press TV, Iranian foreign minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said the deal was an opportunity for the West to restore trust with the Iranian nation. He said Tehran would expand co-operation with the International Atomic Energy Agency, the UN nuclear watchdog, to address what he called some concerns. Iran will get access to $4.2bn (£2.6bn) in foreign exchange as part of the accord, a Western diplomat said. A senior US official added that the agreement halted progress on Iran's nuclear programme, including construction of the Arak research reactor. It would neutralise Iran's stockpile of uranium refined to a fissile concentration of 20%, which is a close step away from the level needed for weapons, and calls for intrusive UN nuclear inspections. Iran has also committed to stop uranium enrichment above a fissile purity of 5%, a US fact sheet said. The deal has no recognition of an Iranian right to enrich uranium and sanctions would still be enforced. Refined uranium can be used to fuel nuclear power plants - Iran's stated goal - but also provide the fissile core of an atomic bomb if refined much further. The deal has sparked fears in Israel, said Sky's Middle East Correspondent Sam Kiley. "Israel's economy minister Naftali Bennett has said this deal could result in the use of suitcase nuclear devices five years down the line. It could be traced to this historic moment," he said. "What they're really saying is that the international community, the world's diplomats, have been suckered by Iran in the same way that the international community was successfully suckered, let's face it, by the North Koreans who agreed to a similar deal to downscale their nuclear programme, and after a few months went by actually demonstrated that they had developed a nuclear weapon in secret. "That is precisely what worries the Israelis." Diplomacy was stepped up after the landslide election of Hassan Rouhani, a relative moderate, as Iranian president in June, replacing nationalist Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Burahadheer,Jubbaland has been compromised no autonomous state in Kismayo hassan sheikh and his politicking made sure of that. And there is no threat from Mogadishu coming towards the Somali Kilil. Actually the Mogadishu government is being protected by Ethiopian troops in a variety of areas in southern Somalia, so i doubt they can outmaneuver the Ethiopians in the Somali kilil. And Khatumo is doing what they are good at holding a conference about a conference.

Muqdisho:- Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya oo la horkeenay Mooshin ka dhan ah Raysalwasaaraha & Sawaxan ka jira Xarunta. 24. november 2013 Allpuntland Xildhibaanada Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya ayaa goor dhow loo qeybiyay mooshinka ka dhanka ah Ra’iisul Wasaare Cabdi Faarax Shirdon Saacid, iyadoo buuq iyo qeylo uu ka dhex abuuray Mudanayaasha Baarlamaanka. Kulanka Baarlamaanka ayaa waxaa soo xaadiray ilaa 201 xildhibaan, waxaana shir gudoominaya Afhayeenka Baarlamaanka Prof. Jawaari oo ku dhawaaqay in Baarlamaanka uu hor yaalo mooshin ka dhan ah Ra’iisul Wasaaraha oo khamiistii loo soo gudbiyay Gudoonka. Wararka ayaa sheegaya in Xildhibaanada baarlamaanka ee taageersan Ra’iisul wasaaraha ay dalbadeen in mooshinka lagu lifaaqo magacyada saxiixayaasha oo la sheegay in 168 ay soo gudbiyeen, hadii kalena uusan sharci aheyn. Gudoonka Baarlamaanka ayaa waxaa uu sheegay in mooshinka laga doodi maalinta sabtida ee taariikhdu tahay 30-ka November, waxaana wararku sheegayaan inay jiraan shakiyo Xildhibaanada ka qabaan tirada rasmiga ah ee saxiixday Mooshinka. Sidoo kale Gudoonka ayaa ku wargeliyay xildhibaanada in isla sabtida loo soo gudbinayo magacyada liiska Xildhibaanada saxiixay mooshinka, kaasoo keenay in mudanayaasha taageersan Ra’iisul Wasaaraha ay buuqaan Saxawaxan ka jira Xarunta Golaha shacabka ayaa laga yaabaa in uu keeno dib u dhig lugu sameeyo Mooshinka Raysalwasaaraha ka dhanka ah. ilo lugu kalsoonyahay ayaa sheegaya in Mooshinka Raysalwasaaraha uu dib u dhici karo ilaa iyo 30 bishaan.

I think they are advising him very well and are presenting a strategy to prolong his stay as Prime Minister these forces want a prime minister who is willing insert his own policies ideas in Somalia. It seems saacid is not leaving for now

Qamaan had allot of hal hays for example this one Hadalkan saxnayn wuxu taraa, sun iyo waabaye Cali jamac haabiil Muslimnimo nin aan kugu dhaqayn, muuminnimo khaasa Gaal maxasta ku dhowra magansataa dhaama Salaan caraby Hadaad ficil hinaastay aadse aad hilin kari weydey ma afkaad ku ciil bixi cidlaan ka hanjabaysa eh Faacul adan Jugle Gari laba nin kama wada qosliso By Garaad wiilwaal Abasguul meel ma wada joogo warna isu ma seegna

Turkish delegations reafferms the deep historic links between Somaliland and Turkey the Deputy Turkish Prime minister is also due to arrive in Somaliland

ONLF is in a very difficult situation it seems the struggle is heading towards an endless political perplexity the ONLF made a terrible mistake in 1984 when they former wslf broke down along clan lines. And the ONLF was created in Saudi Arabia by former wslf from the O community they should've started an arm struggle from the get to go instead of waiting for the derg of Mengistu to be ousted by the TPLF and EPLF. ONLF started fighting Ethiopia when Meles and his TPLF consdiliated their power in most of Ethiopia. You hit them when they are weak and vulnerable and never believe the promises Ethiopians made. Today the duplicitous EPRDF policians understand the underleying conflicts between Somalis and especially in the Somali Kilil and today 98% of the officials in the Kilil Somali are Somalis including the police and millatiry. When i was 2 years ago in Jigjiga for a visit the people there despite the problems and being neglected by the Ethiopian state ubo as they refer ONLF is non existend especially with in the Big foot community the argument they use is why should we fight when the rest of the Somalis are not fighting we will not fight no son of ours will die fighting the Ethiopian state. In the 80s and the 70s the Somali region had no Somali colonel or General from the Ethiopian army the army officers In the Kilil Somali at that time Hararghe sidamo and bale were all oromo generals or Amhara generals and so were the troops, today the so called Liyu police are all Somalis. The shrewed TPLF politicians understand the deep animosities between Somalis and Zenawi went as far as dividing the big foot community clans along sub clanish lines and started putting them against each other, in order to discredit the ONLF, sometimes Ethiopian troops plunder and burn down villages and the next morning we hear ONLF did it, in order for the people to detest ONLF. The TPLF understood the long term possibility that the Somalis in the Kilil will have some deep resentment for Ethiopia. And the close assocition between the other Somalis and the Somalis in the kilil. So Somali historic figures such as Ina abdilla hassan and others are celebrated in Ethiopia to make Somalis an integral part of Ethiopia and especially the bigfoot Community Ileey plays the drums for this and he often says the honer of the Tribe can be protected only under Ethiopia.

^^ Somaliland can afford it to have capable police forces in terms of police equipments and training , Somaliland is located in a very hostile and volotile region protecting the safety of the people is number one priority. The poor cannot be fed if they are unsafe the thousands of street childeren need to be fed trained and conscripted they need to be trained in one of the Islands of Somaliland in Sanaag or sacaadin.

If some one believes somaliland gets aid somaliland just since 2011 recieved some semi bilataral aid from denmark and the uk, and thats minimum, the rest of the so called aid is Ngo junk which doesnt leave the offices of nairobi. Somaliland is build on the strength of its own poeple , it doesnt need billions of dollars in aid it doesnt need african union troops to guard its poeple and government and it surely does not need turks to feed their childeren and woman.

Burahadheer when the USC militia were closing into Mogadishu Barre called his trusted families and said where are the Generals the one i send to Siberia where are the Soviet trained Generals and Colonels , where are the baddest boys of my Tribe . And he was informed that they were evacuating the woman and the children from Mogadishu and that he is alone in villa Somalia with a small unit of red berets.

^^ Not as how it was back in the days when warlords were importing arms with the help of Foreign Mercenary groups and illegal arms dealers. Today there are no open militia warlord units. There is Alshabaab a tight islamist entity and than there is the UN backed Somali government under African union supervision. The Arms the USC SNF SPM factions had in the early 90s if they kept it they could easily rule the country.

I am not talking about their fighting ability or their warfare skills, but i am talking about arms possession, they are unarmed outgunned today this is not the 90s they wasted all the heavy artillery and all their ammunition and weaponry superiority, because of infighting. All the heavy weaponry today is under Amisom (African union troops), unless you are counting on alshabaab. In the 90s they had so many weaponry this is all gone.

SomaliPhilosopher;987261 wrote: Dalmar it appears you have some sort of kinkish fetish towards SL. Perhaps you need to take a cold shower bud Somalilanders and the victorious SNM have that affect on some people dadka markaad xaraanta ka jartiid kuma deynayan miyey miyirbeleen asqoobeen muraradilaac ma qusteen by the legendary SNM philosopher Boobe Yusuf, this song is directly addressing the ka hadheen, or as oodweyne puts it the defeated lot.

Abdi ileey's speech on Muhammad abdula hassans memorial statue

Haatu;987336 wrote: Xaaji if it comes to the amount of arms, remember the South is awash with them. The difference between the North and the South is one is dominated by one disparate group who are united in their fear of the "other", whilst the other is so big no one group can dominate. So although they have more men and arms, their weakness is their division. As for the other, they lack numbers and weapons but their unity in vision is their strength. Don't misconstrue things for what they're not. In other words, bootada inaga qallee. They dont have more guns they have wasted their resources in the past 22 years both the bulk of the former SNA in both the south and in Somaliland fell in the hands of the rebel factions. But if you count the Ugandan and burundian mercenaries than maybe u have a point

Khadafi;987313 wrote: I would tell them to invest more in general education rather then buy big toys Somalis love to talk big Weather it's in Hargeysa or Mogadishu, it's the same problem. Khat addicted nomads with weapons with a bizarre police uniform and no formal understanding of policiary work. PS: Xaaj according to international standards those who you want equip with aircrafts while lacking simple police radios are by legal definition "clan militia" and not policeman. Actually SL police forces are very capable in conducting their works well trained for the past 22 years and counting, the Somaliland government has invested in them for quiet some time now. Who keeps SL streets secure do you think? Policiary work is well understood in Somaliland, hence why Somaliland is a success.

^^ What does this topic got to do with Police vehicles

Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha Somaliland Oo Shaaciyey Inay Ciidanka Booliska Ku Qalabayn Doonaan Diyaaradaha Qumaatiga U Kaca, 7-Babuurna Ku Wareejiyey Taliyaha Ciidanka Booliska Cabdilaahi Fadal DAAWO SAWIRADAN (Hadhwanaagnews) Saturday, November 23, 2013 (HWN)-Wasiirka Wasaaradda Arrimaha Gudaha Somaliland Md. Cali Maxamed Waran-cadde ayaa maantagelintii danbe ciidanka booliska ku wareejiyay 7-baabuur oo kale oo ka mid ah gaadiidka loogu tallo galay in lagu fuliyo gurmadka deg-dega ah Hargeysa (HWN)- Wasiirka Wasaaradda Arrimaha Gudaha Somaliland Md. Cali Maxamed Waran-cadde ayaa maantagelintii danbe ciidanka booliska ku wareejiyay 7 -baabuur oo kale oo ka mid ah gaadiidka loogu tallo galay in lagu fuliyo gurmadka deg-dega ah. Gaadiidkan ayaa waxa ku hawl geli doona ciidanka Nabad-gelyadda waddooyinka. Munaasibadii loo sameeyey wareejinta Baabuurtan oo galabta fiidkii lagu qabtey barxada hore ee Wasaarada Arrimaha Gudaha Somaliland,ayaa waxa ka soo qeybgalay Taliyaha Ciidaanka Booliska Somaliland Sareeya Guuto Cabdilaahi Fadal Iimaan, iyo masuuliyiin kale, Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha Cali Maxamed Waran-cadde ayaa Gaadiid nooca gurmadka Deg-deg Bilayska ah oo tiradoodu dhantahay 7-Gaadhi (oto-oto) ku wareejiyay Ciidanka Nabad-gelyada waddooyinka Somaliland, gaar ahaan Taliyaha Ciidaanka Booliska Somaliland Sareeya Guuto Cabdilaahi Fadal Iimaan, Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha Somaliland ayaa waxa uu sheegay inay Ciidaanka Booliska ku qalabeyn doonaan diyaaradaha qumaatiga u kaca,Kadibna Waxay Wasiirka Arriimaha Gudaha Somaliland Cali Warancade iyo Taliyaha Ciidaanka Booliska Somaliland Sareeya Guuto Cabdilaahi Fadal Iimaan waxay si wada-jira shir al-baabadu u xidhan yihiin kula yeesheen Ciidaanka ilaalada nabadgelyada Waddooyinka Xarunta Wasaarada Arrimaha Gudaha Somaliland

Turkey oo Qunsuliyad ka Furaysa Somaliland Daabaco La wadaag Safiiirka Turkiga Safiiirka Turkiga QIYAASTA QORAALKA 23.11.2013 Safiirka Dawladda Turkiga u fadhiya Somalia Ambassador Cemalettin Kani Torun ayaa Madaxda Somaliland kala hadlay sidii loo sii amba-qaadi lahaa wadahadalada u dhexeeya Somaliland iyo Somalia, iyo weliba sidii dawladda Turkigu ay qunsuliyad uga furan lahayd magaalada Hargeisa. Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibedda ee Somaliland Maxamed Biixi Yoonis ayaa isaguna sheegay inay Somaliland xafiis ka furanayso dalka Turkiga. Safiirku wuxuu sheegay in dowladda Turkey ay balaadhinayso mashaariicda horumaneed iyo maalgashi ee ay ka wadaan Somaliland.

They can easily purchase the Kawasaki BK 117 the Germans still have some of them in their storage rooms they can get it for each unit a Million dollar if the Germans are nice if we buy 4 or 5 they can give a discount. And later maybe in a year or 2 SL can get the eurocopter ec-135 they cost around 4 million it depends also on what type.

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Homunculus;987244 wrote: For your own sake and mine I hope that's not the case because the whole region doesn't stand a chance. Xaaji, I didn't know that it was this easy to make you beat your chest like the guys in the forum that shall not be named. Its not just Somaliland or Somalia or any other country, or entity in Africa its how the world works the more arms a country has the more powerful they are on the world stage. What makes the United states the most powerful nation on the planet not their democratic values freedom, Its their arm industry which gives them allot of influence in the world economically and politically.