If you want more pics check out this topic in the last few pages some nice pics of Somaliland http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/11000-Somaliland-Picture-Thread

^^ You dont have to view it like that we know the Egyptians are in conflict with the Ethiopians over the nile river. But they know we are not going to change our ideology stance with them what makes you think Arabs can influence Somalilanders. We work with any one but make no promises to any one Balancing our relationship in the region. Never have one permanent ally.

ma qaar ba geeshaambuush la yidha waxan mooday inad leedahay geedi shaambow ba isna itoobiya ku biiray

You are right they already balkanized Somalia along clan lines they just fail to admit it when haatu says lets disintegrate what does he actually mean lets declare it but who is stopping them Puntland is basically independent from Mogadishu, the same is galmduug. Is he waiting for Somalilands approval or something. Is Somaliland stopping them from balkanizing their own country? But than again haatu is not from that balkanized Somalia he wished he was from Somalia , he is not yet a kenyan. I remember those arguments about fertile land i mean if they had all the fertile land why on earth would they want to share their fertile land with Somalilanders makes no sense. Nimankan waxay ku sheekenayan wa iska sheekoyinki habraha suuqa bakaraha ku kaftaman.

burahadeer;989934 wrote: Somalia is getting crazy with Somaliland ,alas and there is nothing they can do.Baroor joogta a Koonfurians are funny and their Kenyan Somali side kicks never take them serious i have heard them all at the end of the day the Koonfurians are under African union supervision and Haatu is not yet a Kenyan. But i heard them all they have used every silly trick in the Book to undermine Somaliland statehood these are so far their arguments. Its starts with we are all Somalis, we need to unite we are walaalow aboowe lets stay together for the sake of islam than they use islam the unity of islam and what not. But when they are confronted with facts about islam, they try to use Xabashi scare tactics when they themselves use Xabashis to outmaneuver each other and to undermine each they even used Xabashi mercenaries to kill their own people. When that doesn't work they say Somaliland is a colonial creation so it cannot exist emphasizing on its colonial boundaries, than Somalilanders say oo xuduudihina ma mama khadija idin xariiqday manay tony carlos iyo gaalki William smith wada xariiqan maxa midna kheyr ka dhigay midna shar ka dhigay. When all that doesn't work now they say lets all disintegrate along clan lines hada wa nimanki marki hore ku bilaabay Somalinimo Somaliweyn hala is raaco , bal waalida eega:D

Haatu;989916 wrote: And what makes your qabiil so special that only they get to separate? Don't you see the hypocrisy in what your saying? The choice should be simple, either all clans unite in Soomaalinimo or every clan gets its own republic. And just to be the xasid I am, I wouldn't sign the S/land papers off until they release Awdal and SSC. Then no one will say we have been sidelined or some other rubbish. Haatu do other tribes want to separate yes or no? Why is the Somaliland separation an aspiration of Somalilanders attached to other Somalis ma anaga dhalnay Somalida kale ma anaga abahood ah if they want to separate they should do it maxa isku kaya xidhay,. Hadaad adigu Kenya ka go aysid maxa ka galay nin reer DJibouti haday Puntland ka go ayso Somalia , Maxa Somaliland ku xidhay. Haatu why do you guys feel to speak for Awdal their academics can speak for them such as samatar and and the Awdal state President. No person from Gaarisa can speak for Awdal. If you wanna speak for eastern sanaaag and eastern sool based some here say tribal affiliation than be my guests even though the likes of sultan faisal ali waraabe will tell you sool and sanaag are not Jubbaland oo rag ba leh.

Well said Fawzia , i believe fawzia can teach Koonfurians allot of reconciliation to if she puts effort to it.

Nice pictures reforming is always good aslong as it betters the lives of the people. Certainly africa needs allot of reform in terms of economy how to deal with mismanagment and new visions are needed.

Adeer they are no threat and if they want to snatch some sadaqo the europeans pay they do it because they want the sadaqo for them selves. I don't mind that the mogadishu boys want unity but they have no real problems with sl. The pirates claim parts of sl on tribal bases. Actually the mogadishu boys unity iyo sheekooyInkaas waka afka they mind their bussines and I don't mind let them continue their ways dhib cidna kuma hayaan.

How did saado cali defeat the kacaan with what her songs naga daa dee waalida. Sangub is known as a real Kacaan Sympathizer

^^ Not true Mogadishu and hargeisa never had any conflict they had power sharing problems which was caused by the pirates in the north in the early 60s. In the 1980s the SNM never shared intel or weapons with the ssdf the Pirates went to Gadafi and got funding's the SNM rejected gadafis's green book. The ssdf gave into the demands of barre and they gave up in 1984, and General Siyad conscripted them in his army remember captain faalso Judge Ali Nur , Colonel Dacar all from the garowe clan enclave. Than the SNM helped establish the HAG rebel movements the USC under the vision of the late of Ali wardhiiglay, the SNM shared intel and weapons with the the USC who on their turn went beyond enemy lines and cut the head of the dragon. The Kacaan had all sort of the tribes even though the Guardians were the M.O.D. But a bulk of the army might have been the HAG and the highest chiefs were also the Afro hashimites it all depends who abandoned the regime at what time. Even today The Afro hashimites are investing in Mogadishu building it again as for the Somalia and Somaliland relations the state collapsed the USC fighters some wanted the SNM to play a mediating role instead of declaring independence. The USC and the SNM failed to fill each others interests and both can be blamed not just the USC. But we are working on to restore relations better than ever which will benefit both Somalia and Somaliland. By the way the So called Nomadic wars were just rehashed in 1983 as an Hawdian you should remember the bloody wars General maxammad Cali Fought against the Forces the WSLF under the command adan gabyow in 1983. 100 years before that the Akil Guleed Xaaji was fighting around the outskirts of Daroor Suldaan Maxammad of Dhagaxbuur. Nothing had changed and in 1988 after the residents of Hargeisa fled Hargeisa who remembers the hate speech of General adan Gabyow , that he and his people were dreaming about this day for more than 1000 years to defeat the majestic Afro Hashmites of Hargeisa. And that they won over Hargeisa finally this was not that long ago. Mala shalay baad dhalatay laakin rag ba shubi jiray.

^^ There are never permanent allies or permanent friends there are only interests

Madaxweynaha Somaliya oo Mamnuucay Filim Sangub iyo Saado Cali ku caayeen Halgankii Dibu-xorraynta Somaliya. (Hadhwanaagnews) Friday, December 06, 2013 Muqdisho (BLM) Madaxweynaha Somaliya Xasan Sh Maxamuud ayaa Somaliya ka mamnuucay Filim ay sameeyeen San-gub iyo Saado Cali kaasoo ay ugu magac dareen ?Ummad wada siyaasi ah side loo xukumi karaa??, taasoo si wayn u af-lagaadaynaysay Halgankii Shacabka Somaliya u soo mareen in ay talada ka tuuraan Siyaad Barre. Madaxweynaha Somaliya oo Mamnuucay Filim Sangub iyo Saado Cali ku caayeen Halgankii Dibu-xorraynta Somaliya. Muqdisho (HWN) Madaxweynaha Somaliya Xasan Sh Maxamuud ayaa Somaliya ka mamnuucay Filim ay sameeyeen San-gub iyo Saado Cali kaasoo ay ugu magac dareen ?Ummad wada siyaasi ah side loo xukumi karaa??, taasoo si wayn u af-lagaadaynaysay Halgankii Shacabka Somaliya u soo mareen in ay talada ka tuuraan Siyaad Barre. Halkan Guji warkaas oo faahfaahsan.

Stop claiming other peoples ancestors this is your last warning

Dalmar1;989730 wrote: Reer hargeisa, believes that Faroole winning is in their best interest as they believe in their fairy tale of imagination that Faroole can Stop DFS from Dismantling their Maamul in hargeisa politicaly!,.....LOL,right:D Little do they know, that Faroole winning or losing makes no difference to DFS as faroole and his State never had a weight to begin with, Puntland only had Hot Air and anything more, and the Only thing Faroole is known for is destroying Puntland from inside out! Look what makes you think Somaliland government and Somalia government have bad relations hassan is a very good man. Hassan has been nothing but a blessing for Somaliland. Mogadishu and Hargeisa never had real problems there were problems created by others. But this is over now.Tuurxaan Bixin gar naqsi is the way forward. As for faroole he is not to bad for his people he is much better than cabdi cawar i give u that he has his short coming but who doesn't.

^^ This is about Egyptian Somaliland relations not Ethiopian Somaliland relations ma qof laga dhex guuxayaad tahay ?

Haatu;989792 wrote: As I said Xaaji, ama unite in Somalinimo ama let each qabiil go his own way. There's no need for sob stories. Warka wuu cad yahay. If I was the President of Somalia I would make that a condition. i have no problem with it but uniting Somalis under a political entity is not definition of Somalinimo or is it who gave it that definition. But i support it definitely, hada la kale tegeyo wixi so dhaweynaya waan so dhaweynaya i even support sub clan self determination i also believe there should be 2 khatumo states one in taleex and one Buhoodle as we see it now.

^^ in Somaliland no clan massacred each other this strictly happened in Somalia only, in Somaliland there is a traditional culture of elders reconciling the differences between the people. Thats why the Grand son of The Sultan of Maakhir in the late 19 century Ina Cali shire , today's sit with the grand nephew of Ibrahim Bohgul President silanyo Even though their 2 grandfathers differed in the 19 century and fought tribal wars yet they were inter linked. But if the the Sultan of Maakhir wants to have his own eastern sanaag maakhir republic no one is stopping him does he want that?

^^ U will keep hearing it for the rest of ur lives:D

This has being going on the past 22 years no one wants to be like Somalia if something goes wrong people always say lets hope it doesn't turn into another Somalia. Somalis can get rid of this image if they for once compromise work together and respect each other.

Why dont these docile Asians fight back ? Why do they like to be abused by Arabs

I don't think in somalia they pick pms on their credentials he might be a good fella but I doubt it.

Actually faroole is not to bad for puntland he won the war against atam. He brought foreign firms to explore oil in puntland he modernized puntland defense forces. And he fought for a federal constitution. He build a new presidential palace in garower improved the health situation there.. I think he is a better candidate than cabid cawar

I doubt hassan sheikh would go for the smallest clan, the next pm must be from another sub clan