But khatumo cares about qawmiyadaha Itoobiya tallow iyagana halkee la fadhisiiyey http://www.lasanod.com/details.php?num=10167

Gar_maqaate;990207 wrote: The Ethiopians were allowed to proceed with their journey but the somali was detained. It's a cause for celebrations. The Ethiopians were not carrying illegal passports banned in Somaliland

President of Djibouti called for the unity of the ethnic groups of Ethiopia.

Gar maqataate i heard khatumo was there 2 any pics of them there.

Puntland Is Stronger Than the Dam Jadid Manifesto 8 DECEMBER 2013 RELATED TOPICS Somalia Somalia: Mogadishu Court to Hear Charges... EDITORIAL The "fowdo" (chaos) presidential candidates emerged - playing the Dam Jadid Manifesto - and hoping for a Barre Hirale-style move: declare the 2014 election illegitimate, declare "multiple presidents of Puntland", and declare allegiance to Dam Jadid. On November 8, 2013, Garowe Online editorialized, regarding Puntland presidential candidates 2014: "...are they genuine presidential candidates with Puntland's best interest at heart, or simply political opportunists exploiting the moment?" Today, some of Puntland's presidential candidates 2014 declared their "own vetting committee" - a surprise move, perhaps intended to disrupt the smooth flow of the electoral process in Puntland. A surprise, indeed, as Puntland has held similar political processes and presidential elections most recently in 2005 and 2009, with a clear trajectory of political developments that transpired under law, with legitimacy and in a state of peace and security. A surprise, indeed, as Puntland stands today as the defender of security and Somali solidarity in a federal system, and promotes a development agenda. Most surprising, indeed, that Dr. Abdiweli Mohamed Ali (Gaas) is among the eight names (out of 20 or so presidential candidates in Puntland), who signed this document that nominates members to an illegal Vetting Committee. Dr. Gaas, as a former Somali Prime Minister, should know the difference between what is law and procedure, and what is hearsay and wishful thinking. Puntland President Dr. Abdirahman Mohamed Farole nominated a 7-member Vetting Committee and a secretary on Dec. 3, after broad consultations with civil society in Puntland. The end result was a Vetting Committee widely accepted and praised for their neutrality and lack of association with Farole's administration. Moreover, former Puntland Presidents Mohamed Abdi Hashi and Mohamud Muse Hersi nominated Vetting Committees in 2004 and 2008, so President Farole did not do anything new in the political system of Puntland. What the presidential candidates could have done is question particular characters of the Vetting Committee nominated by the Puntland President. Are there any conflicts of interest? Instead, some of the presidential candidates opted for the road that promotes political instability and lawlessness. But we believe that Puntland is much stronger, Puntland today is a State, and the clans are united behind a State that protects them, promotes their development and demands the people's rights. This is the State of Puntland. If President Farole did not do anything new, then some of the presidential candidates did something new by nominating their own vetting committee. One wonders: in appointing such a committee, what reference points do some of the presidential candidates have? Will they reference the Puntland Constitution? Or will they reference the Dam Jadid Manifesto - a Mogadishu-centric, clan domination-driven version of the "Communist Manifesto"? The same Dam Jadid Manifesto that failed in Jubaland State, and the regions of Lower Shabelle, Middle Shabelle, Bay, Hiraan, and Mogadishu was loudly. Indeed, many of the presidential candidates have lost their own hopes for an election victory and credibility in Puntland. They rushed to Puntland, fuelled by an imaginary opposition to the situation in Puntland: "the people hate Farole" and "the people need change" - the anthems of the "opposition", but a dose of reality on the ground was clearly suffice. The "fowdo" (chaos) presidential candidates emerged - playing the Dam Jadid Manifesto - and hoping for a Barre Hirale-style move: declare the 2014 election illegitimate, declare "multiple presidents of Puntland", and declare allegiance to Dam Jadid's political sabotage of federalism, undermining of Puntland and Jubaland, and get support to fight against any legitimate authority in Puntland. Not all of the candidates support chaos, however, and the coming days will set a clear line amongst the candidates. To the candidates who support constitutional rule, peaceful elections and pursuit of development, we say welcome to the Puntland political system and best of luck in your electoral endeavor. To the candidates who joined the unfortunate "fowdo group", we say you are from Puntland, and the peace and prosperity in Puntland is in our collective interest, so do not be the one who falls into the trap of the Oreo Cookie: Puntland on the outside, something else on the inside. We are always Puntland - inside and out. Somalia Mogadishu Court to Hear Charges Against Two Journalists Arrested Over Unconfirmed Rape Allegation Benadir regional court is starting today on Monday the first hear of charges against two journalists arrested in late … see more »

Tillamook;990211 wrote: Funny how they all show up here when summoned, yet you never see Silanyo in Garowe or Faroole in Hargaysa....what a bunch of pathetic baboons! What is there for Siilaanyo in Garowe? And what has faroole got to do with Hargeisa , makes no sense

Tallaabo;990238 wrote: I think the message Ethiopia is sending by inviting all these Somali leaders to this event is that the Somaliwayn ideals and aspirations and Somali nationalism is defeated and dead. They are showing the Somali Ethiopians and the ONLF that there is no Somali nation to claim ownership of the Somali region in Ethiopia, no Somali leader to support their movement, and nowhere to run to if they resist the Ethiopian control. This is a very shrewd move indeed. Exactly

Geele was there 2 it was a full house of Somalis

^^ yes that was him:D

No one can enter Somaliland carrying an E Somali passport rules are rules., and siilanyo is the ruler of the country, his word is law.

Wasaaradda Duulista Somaliland Oo Madaarada Dalka Ka Mamnuucday Inay Adeegsadaan Dadka Aan Siday Baasabooradu Sunday, 08 December 2013 17:25 font size decrease font size increase font size Print Email Wasaaradda Duulista Somaliland Oo Madaarada Dalka Ka Mamnuucday Inay Adeegsadaan Dadka Aan Siday Baasabooradu Hargeisa(Caroog)-Dec 08, 2013. Wasaaradda Duulista hawadda iyo gaadiidka cirka Somaliland ayaa ka mamnuucday Madaarrada dalka inay adeegsadaan dad aan sidan dukumanti baasaboor. Sidaasna waxa lagu sheegay war-saxaafadeed uu soo saaray Afhayeenka wasaaradda Duulista Md. Saddaam Maxamed Axmed, waxaanu u dhignaa sidan:- “Wasaaradda Duulista Hawadda iyo Gaadiidka cirka Somaliland waxay dhamaan dadweynaha isaga goosha madaarada Somaliland ee ka soo dega ama ka dhoofa ku wargalinaynsaa inay waajib ku tahay inay sitaan baasaabooro sharci ah, si uu ugu sahlanaado safarkoodu, iyada oo aanu ka codsanayno inay tixgalinayaan una dulqaataan baadhitaana dadweynahaasi lagaga samanayo Madaarada iyo wixii su’aalo ah ee laanta socdaalku ay ugu baahato. Waxaanu dhamaan diyaarahaha ka ganacsada hawadda Somaliland ugu digaynaa inay dalka Somalia ee dariska ah ka soo qaadaan dad dalkaasi u dhashay ama reer Somaliland ah, oo aan baasaabooro sidan, taasi oo ah mid aan la aqbalo karin, hadii ay dhacda waxa diyaaradaasi laga qaadi doonaa tallaabo sharciga waafaqsan, waxana dadkaasi aan sharciga sidan dhamaantood dib loo celindoonaa diyaaradii siday iyo halkii ay ka yimaadeen. Waxaanu dhinacyada ay khusayso faraynaa inay u hogaansamaan amaradaasi kor ku xusan, iyadoo wasaaradu hore go’aankan u baahisay, waxaanu mar labaad ku celinayaa in aanay Madaaradda Somaliland ka soo dageyn ama ka dhoofayn cid aan baasaaboor sharciya sidan, marka laga reebo wixii duulimaadyo gudaha Somaliland ah oo ay Muwaadiniinta u banaan tahay inay u kala safraan Madaaradda gudaha iyaga oo aan baasaaboor sidan.”

Somalia’s Information Minister denied entry to Somaliland Dec 8, 2013 | By Somalicurrent Somalia Information, Telecommunication and Transportation Minister Abdullahi Elmoge Hersi was denied entry to Somaliland, a self-declared republic in Somalia on Friday, local media reports. According to the report, Elmoge along with Somali-Ethiopian officials were heading to Jigjiga to attend the yearly communities celebrations hosted in the city, but he was denied his entry to Somaliland to travel with the officials by car into Ethiopia. Horn of Africa Newspaper from Hargeisa reported that the Ethiopian officials were allowed entry to carry on their travel, but Elmoge was forced to wait a private airplane to take him straight to Jigjiga. Somalia’s Federal Government and Somaliland did not comment on the issue. Recently, there have been a passport dispute between Mogadishu and Hargeisa, after Somaliland refused to allow entry for the banned Somali passport. Local Air travel between the capital Mogadishu and Berbera, was grounded for days, after air carriers canceled their flights due to the row. Somaliland has not its own passport, since it is internationally recognised as an autonomous region of Somalia, and uses the formerly Somali passport, which was officially banned in 2011 by the Transitional Federal Government. Somaliland has yet to accept the new biometric passport of Somalia.

If you want more pics check out this topic in the last few pages some nice pics of Somaliland http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/11000-Somaliland-Picture-Thread

^^ You dont have to view it like that we know the Egyptians are in conflict with the Ethiopians over the nile river. But they know we are not going to change our ideology stance with them what makes you think Arabs can influence Somalilanders. We work with any one but make no promises to any one Balancing our relationship in the region. Never have one permanent ally.

ma qaar ba geeshaambuush la yidha waxan mooday inad leedahay geedi shaambow ba isna itoobiya ku biiray

You are right they already balkanized Somalia along clan lines they just fail to admit it when haatu says lets disintegrate what does he actually mean lets declare it but who is stopping them Puntland is basically independent from Mogadishu, the same is galmduug. Is he waiting for Somalilands approval or something. Is Somaliland stopping them from balkanizing their own country? But than again haatu is not from that balkanized Somalia he wished he was from Somalia , he is not yet a kenyan. I remember those arguments about fertile land i mean if they had all the fertile land why on earth would they want to share their fertile land with Somalilanders makes no sense. Nimankan waxay ku sheekenayan wa iska sheekoyinki habraha suuqa bakaraha ku kaftaman.

burahadeer;989934 wrote: Somalia is getting crazy with Somaliland ,alas and there is nothing they can do.Baroor joogta a Koonfurians are funny and their Kenyan Somali side kicks never take them serious i have heard them all at the end of the day the Koonfurians are under African union supervision and Haatu is not yet a Kenyan. But i heard them all they have used every silly trick in the Book to undermine Somaliland statehood these are so far their arguments. Its starts with we are all Somalis, we need to unite we are walaalow aboowe lets stay together for the sake of islam than they use islam the unity of islam and what not. But when they are confronted with facts about islam, they try to use Xabashi scare tactics when they themselves use Xabashis to outmaneuver each other and to undermine each they even used Xabashi mercenaries to kill their own people. When that doesn't work they say Somaliland is a colonial creation so it cannot exist emphasizing on its colonial boundaries, than Somalilanders say oo xuduudihina ma mama khadija idin xariiqday manay tony carlos iyo gaalki William smith wada xariiqan maxa midna kheyr ka dhigay midna shar ka dhigay. When all that doesn't work now they say lets all disintegrate along clan lines hada wa nimanki marki hore ku bilaabay Somalinimo Somaliweyn hala is raaco , bal waalida eega:D

Haatu;989916 wrote: And what makes your qabiil so special that only they get to separate? Don't you see the hypocrisy in what your saying? The choice should be simple, either all clans unite in Soomaalinimo or every clan gets its own republic. And just to be the xasid I am, I wouldn't sign the S/land papers off until they release Awdal and SSC. Then no one will say we have been sidelined or some other rubbish. Haatu do other tribes want to separate yes or no? Why is the Somaliland separation an aspiration of Somalilanders attached to other Somalis ma anaga dhalnay Somalida kale ma anaga abahood ah if they want to separate they should do it maxa isku kaya xidhay,. Hadaad adigu Kenya ka go aysid maxa ka galay nin reer DJibouti haday Puntland ka go ayso Somalia , Maxa Somaliland ku xidhay. Haatu why do you guys feel to speak for Awdal their academics can speak for them such as samatar and and the Awdal state President. No person from Gaarisa can speak for Awdal. If you wanna speak for eastern sanaaag and eastern sool based some here say tribal affiliation than be my guests even though the likes of sultan faisal ali waraabe will tell you sool and sanaag are not Jubbaland oo rag ba leh.

Well said Fawzia , i believe fawzia can teach Koonfurians allot of reconciliation to if she puts effort to it.

Nice pictures reforming is always good aslong as it betters the lives of the people. Certainly africa needs allot of reform in terms of economy how to deal with mismanagment and new visions are needed.

Adeer they are no threat and if they want to snatch some sadaqo the europeans pay they do it because they want the sadaqo for them selves. I don't mind that the mogadishu boys want unity but they have no real problems with sl. The pirates claim parts of sl on tribal bases. Actually the mogadishu boys unity iyo sheekooyInkaas waka afka they mind their bussines and I don't mind let them continue their ways dhib cidna kuma hayaan.

How did saado cali defeat the kacaan with what her songs naga daa dee waalida. Sangub is known as a real Kacaan Sympathizer

^^ Not true Mogadishu and hargeisa never had any conflict they had power sharing problems which was caused by the pirates in the north in the early 60s. In the 1980s the SNM never shared intel or weapons with the ssdf the Pirates went to Gadafi and got funding's the SNM rejected gadafis's green book. The ssdf gave into the demands of barre and they gave up in 1984, and General Siyad conscripted them in his army remember captain faalso Judge Ali Nur , Colonel Dacar all from the garowe clan enclave. Than the SNM helped establish the HAG rebel movements the USC under the vision of the late of Ali wardhiiglay, the SNM shared intel and weapons with the the USC who on their turn went beyond enemy lines and cut the head of the dragon. The Kacaan had all sort of the tribes even though the Guardians were the M.O.D. But a bulk of the army might have been the HAG and the highest chiefs were also the Afro hashimites it all depends who abandoned the regime at what time. Even today The Afro hashimites are investing in Mogadishu building it again as for the Somalia and Somaliland relations the state collapsed the USC fighters some wanted the SNM to play a mediating role instead of declaring independence. The USC and the SNM failed to fill each others interests and both can be blamed not just the USC. But we are working on to restore relations better than ever which will benefit both Somalia and Somaliland. By the way the So called Nomadic wars were just rehashed in 1983 as an Hawdian you should remember the bloody wars General maxammad Cali Fought against the Forces the WSLF under the command adan gabyow in 1983. 100 years before that the Akil Guleed Xaaji was fighting around the outskirts of Daroor Suldaan Maxammad of Dhagaxbuur. Nothing had changed and in 1988 after the residents of Hargeisa fled Hargeisa who remembers the hate speech of General adan Gabyow , that he and his people were dreaming about this day for more than 1000 years to defeat the majestic Afro Hashmites of Hargeisa. And that they won over Hargeisa finally this was not that long ago. Mala shalay baad dhalatay laakin rag ba shubi jiray.