Mad mullah the berbera coridor project was a long project which started nearly a decade ago. So it will take time before it starts. Projects started in 2010 are about to be finilized the socable project for example is alsmost finished. The berbera port investment is a huge issue will take some time to but it will come. Genel is back and exploration is about to happen. So its all in place

I never take their words serious when it concerns somaliland. The somali speaking kenyans are just angry a somalilander put their little shifta war to an end more than 45 years ago. They havent been the same ever since. Somalidu waxay tidha dameer aan saaranahay maxay dhuusadisu iga tari. The rest of the defeated lot are cornered and guardered by kenyans. Few days ago shabaab took out their highest commander in kismayo. Somaliland is not somalia aliens iska ma so geli karan.

Here is the full interview of the sultan

Who said Somaliland detest Somalia ,Somalia and Somaliland share the name Somali together , both in their country names, its you who is making the fuss why are kenyans always like to create problems first it was between Kismayo and the somali government and now its between Somalia and Somaliland.I dont understand Somalia and Somaliland people socialize together , but why are Kenyans here what is their purpose here.

This opposition talk i watched the inteview yesterday on hctv will post it for you he called for somaliland to remove the garowe clan enclave from taleex and boocame. He called the government to join hIs nation dialogue. He never said somaliland is somalia he said. We should not call un staff for somalia . Somalia and somaliland. They are for somalia we have nothing to do with them. Somali media puts peoples words out of context watch the whole interview. Sultan faisal is a rightwing sl nationalist but he is opposition.

Who said i dislike somalia , somalia and somaliland will for ever remain neighbors. And i have not heard sol admins being against somalilanders on sol while we have kenyans here. Somalia and Somalilanders have issues regarding their relations. They are still closer to somalilanders than kenyans you know. Somalilanders are here to discuss things with their neighbors the people of somalia. They are not waiting for kenyans here this not kenyan online. And technically somalilanders have the right to here aslong as somalia claims somaliland territory. They have allot to discuss. But why are kenyans here what is their purpose. Somalia and somaliland are both my people.

Mad_Mullah;991525 wrote: But you're saying that he, as a Kenyan shouldn't interfere in Somaliland affairs but aren't you doing the same as a Lander commenting on Somalia affairs? I am saying that the UN/world won't have a reason to accept Somaliland's independence unless Shabab rules Puntland and they want to prevent Shabab from taking over Somaliland so that it doesn't have a base next to Djibouti which would be devastating for the world economy. Somalia claims Somaliland thus gives me the right on commenting on Somalia affairs does Kenya claim Somaliland or does Somaliland claim Kenya. As for Shabaab it will be very difficult for shabaab to annex puntland for some reason i believe the west fuels the Shabaab Somali conflict and keeps supporting shabaab so that the African dictators receive their pay checks from Brussels.

Mad_Mullah;991520 wrote: Xaaji you're just making yourself look bad, stop acting like a girl on her period with your ugaali rants. You try to shun and look down on "Kenyans" and everyone else but you come gleaming because some Cadaan behind his laptop changed a map on Wikipedia? I'll say it again, Somaliland will not get independence unless Shabab took over Puntland. Ugaali is a nice dish liked by allot of Kenyans nothing wrong with it i dont look down on Kenyans they have one of the most progressive economies in the African continent. I just believe they have other pressing issues than to worry about Somaliland and Somalia. So your saying Amiir Godane has to take over Puntland. By the way Somaliland is already independent from Somalia it has no UN political office the rest of Somalia has, it receives its aid separately. It signs major oil agreements with Foreign firms its about to sign a major port investment soon with a French firm it just doesn't have official embassies in Foreign countries and its currency is not recognized as an international currency, thats about it,and i believe they will reach that final part.

Since when was i your mate?

Puntlander123;991513 wrote: Sorry guys mogadishu is getting a 270 million dollar Container Terminal, 70million dollar Oil Terminal. Good For Mogadishu, what are the pirates getting?

Interesting there Abu salman Bollore was interested in Berbera port for nearly a decade now, but 30% is still allot they should it cut it. The Somaliland government should negotiate for a fair deal

Haatu;991505 wrote: Of course they don't but a Somali will always give you their opinion whether or not it is welcome. Somaliland's secession should be conditional upon them leaving SSC alone and letting Awdal go to Jabuuti. A Kenyan is a Kenyan whether he speaks Somali or speaks Swahili he or she has noting to do with Somaliland and certainly he or she cannot speak for Borama a city 90 km west of Hargeisa. Borama is closer to gabiley than its to Djibouti. Somaliland is not a secession it never claimed it seceding from Somalia for it only voluntarily united with Somalia a choice they had and a choice to withdraw. Your opinion is irrelevant your are not a koonfurian your country is Kenya and your dish is ugaali. Somaliland deals with the Koonfurians only. Somaliland does not concern those under Amxaar occupation, or those who have accepted Kenya as their home. War meesha mala Somalia bu mooday oo la iska so gali karo, Somaliland adeer rag ba iska leh oo caano ku lissayn.

Naxar Nugaaleed;991502 wrote: Sharci Darro? hub sharci ah ma jira lol Maybe some can get a licence to carry a gun:D

gooni;991482 wrote: Xaaji nabad ma sheegtay? wiki aqoonsi ma keenee ha la dadaalo caruur iyo ciroolaba hala isu soo baxo barafka ha la kor istaago boqoradda ingiriiska albaabka halagu garaaco waxaad moodaa beryahaan in dadkii sii niyad jabayo wacyi gelin ha la sameeyo waaxay wiki iyo waxaad la wareegayso Wax walba way dhaanta in wax lugu darsado dadka qabiil isku xasuuqaya amisomtu ilaaliso, argagxisada calaamiga dalkooda hoy uga dhigay budhcad badeed noqday. Boqorada ingriisku waba ehelo karaamo. Somaliland dadkeedu siday u nijad jabaan waxay ku jiraan mashaaric fara badan wadada burco hargeysa ku hawlan yihin.. Dibu dhiska dekeda berbera, doorashada dimuqraadiyada 2015. Badroool qodis sanadka danbe sidee loo Nijad jaba. Haday dadka maalin walba la qarxinayo niikinayaan dad 23 sanadood geelu u dhalayey siday u nijad jaban:D

Kenyans have no say over sl internal affairs

Bolloré in talks for Somaliland port Bolloré Africa Logistics today confirmed that it was in negotiations with the Somaliland authorities to develop a port in Berbera, on the Gulf of Aden. “The Berbera port has indeed caught our attention,” CEO Dominique Lafont told Port Finance International. During an interview in London, he explained that such a project could ease trade in and out of Somaliland, a breakaway Somali state. The port could also act as a gateway to neighbouring landlocked Ethiopia, Mr Lafont added. With a population in excess of 90 million and a growing influx of foreign investments, Ethiopia is bound to play an increasing role in East Africa, he noted. “We therefore started negotiating with the Somaliland authorities several years ago. These negotiations have been through various twists and turns. For the second time, we are getting closer to conclusion,” Mr Lafont said, before insisting that talks were ongoing and that nothing was settled yet. “We are fully aware of the highly entrepreneurial aspect of this concession.” Bolloré Africa Logistics is the number one operator in Africa, both in terms of ports (15) and TEUs handled. Its boss explained that the French group’s strategy consists in combining the sea ports it holds in concession with the inland logistics network it operates “so as to open up African economies.” “With Ethiopia, we have a textbook case, as it is a totally landlocked country with a huge potential,” Mr Lafont said. Somaliland unilaterally declared independence from Somalia in 1991 and is trying gain international recognition. For Bolloré Africa Logistics, the Berbera project is part of a wider strategy. The group, which has a strong port presence in western and central Africa, wants to expand those port activities to eastern Africa, where it already has logistics activities. In recent years, it won port concessions in Moroni (Comoros) and in Pemba (Mozambique). Besides this “Pan-African axis”, Bolloré has ambitions beyond Africa. A few months ago, it made its first port investment outside the continent: it acquired a minority share in a container terminal in Tuticorin, on the southern tip of India. Mr Lafont told PFI that Bolloré Africa Logistics is looking at opportunities elsewhere on the Indian subcontinent, in South-East Asia, and in parts of Latin and Central America.

Odey;991380 wrote: Really?, you obviously care!. It was you Landers that posted this thread, expect people to point out the irregularities of which there are many!. The man was arrested and thrown in Jail. You can shout till the cows come home, it isn't going to change the facts!. You have a dictatorial system in place with all the news outlets banned from reporting anything that isn't along the party lines and we all know it. If this a true democracy, you will see people being given the opportunity to speak their mind. No one in Hargeisa can utter a word of support for any other idea other than the one provided by Silaanyo. I know because I went there and stayed for 3 months!. My friends were looking all around them before saying anything controversial. ( all of whom were locals) Go lie to someone that doesn't know the truth!. Siilaanyo was elected and there are other parties there is a constitution somaliland is far from a dictatorship, people can protest against the government. With out being massacred, you know little about SL

WTF booobaaye Somalis and their nicknames for the leaders lol. ma isago la ansixin ba boobaaye loo bixiyey.

South Sudan quashes coup attempt, President says By Lilian Leposo and Sara Mazloumsaki, CNN December 16, 2013 -- Updated 0716 GMT (1516 HKT) South Sudanese pack their belongings on a bus before their trip back to the South in Khartoum on Saturday. South Sudanese pack their belongings on a bus before their trip back to the South in Khartoum on Saturday. STORY HIGHLIGHTS NEW: South Sudan President says soldiers loyal to a sacked deputy started the fighting The President, Salva Kiir, declares a nighttime curfew "Gunshots/artillery fired over the past few hours in several locations," U.S. Embassy says U.S., British embassies tell their citizens to stay indoors (CNN) -- South Sudan's military has quashed an attempted coup, President Salva Kiir said Monday, after heavy gunfire gripped the capital of Juba. Dressed in fatigues and flanked by government officials, Kiir blamed soldiers loyal to his sacked deputy Riek Machar for starting the fighting. In a televised address, he said the government was in full control of the capital, and announced a nighttime curfew. "They tried to carry out a coup -- a so-called coup d'etat -- but they have failed," Kiir said. "All the people who were involved in this will be arrested." He said a nighttime curfew "for the sake of security and safety of our citizens" would run from 6 p.m. until 6 a.m. Tensions have been high in Africa's newest nation, which split from Sudan two years ago, since Kiir dismissed his entire Cabinet, including his deputy Machar in July. The move further inflamed deep-running tensions between Kiir's Dinka community and Machar's Nuer community. Earlier, heavy gunfire was reported in the city, government official Peter Biar Ajak said. The U.S. and British embassies in Juba urged their citizens via Twitter to stay indoors and be cautious. "Gunshots/artillery fired over the past few hours in several locations in Juba," the U.S. Mission in Juba tweeted. Sporadic gunfire In a statement on its Facebook page, the U.S. Embassy said that while there was now a lull in violence, it continued to receive reports of sporadic gunfire in parts of the city, particularly near Juba University. It said the airport was not operational. It recommended that U.S. citizens use "caution at this time," adding that travel in Juba was not currently safe. It also reiterated an earlier tweet denying Machar had taken shelter there. "We take this opportunity to reaffirm our earlier message that no political or military figures have taken refuge within the U.S. Embassy," the mission said. In a separate statement, the embassy said it was "deeply concerned at the recent outbreak of armed violence" in Juba and echoed calls from the U.N. envoy there for all parties to "cease hostilities immediately and exercise restraint." The British Embassy has issued an alert advising British nationals against all nonessential movement in parts of the country. South Sudan formally split from Sudan in 2011, after decades of conflict. Numerous armed groups remain active in the oil-rich country. Women, children flee to U.N. compound Hundreds of people, mainly women and children, have taken shelter at the U.N. compound near the airport and at a U.N. house in the city, the United Nations Mission in South Sudan (UNMISS) said. "We hope the security situation in Juba will quickly normalize to enable the civilians to return very soon to their residential areas. To that end, UNMISS calls on all parties to show continued calm and restraint," it said in a statement. It also denied "any suggestion that the U.N. Mission is harboring any key political or military figures."

• Firstly, the GoSL will have to call a referendum as it would mean a change in the constitution of Somaliland. Please note the constitution was ratified by 97% of electorates in 2001 which was considered free and fair by international observers. The Government in power which attempts to implement this change will have automatically committed political suicide and would most likely be followed by an overwhelming defeat in the next elections and replacement for the foreseeable future after its motion is rejected in parliament. I'm sure every political party in Somaliland is fully aware of the reason why they have been voted for and their expectations to abide by the constitution. • Secondly, the Government in Mogadishu would be expected to acknowledge the atrocities committed under the regime of Siyad Barre and hand over all those evading justice in Somalia and the West. However a recent report eluded that the SFG has requested immunity for former Defence Minister Mohamed Samantar who's currently in Prison in the U.S. for War Crimes committed in Hargeisa, Somaliland during the late 80's. Information on the case can be found online as 'Samantar v Yousef.' It is very unlikely President Hassan Sheikh would comply with such requests as it would cause him difficulty within his reconciliation efforts with the dozens of warlords in and around Somalia. • Finally, the SFG will have to acknowledge that Somaliland is not a region of Somalila but a country. The fact Somalilanders celebrate 26th June as their independence is testament to the history and reality of the region. Somalia's Independence Day is celebrated 1st July. Regions such as Puntland and Jubba Administration which had always been a part of the former Ita-Somalia would likely reject the notion that the reunification will be implemented as two countries reuniting again and not a 'Federal Region' as they are/want to be recognised as. The mammoth challenges which lie ahead are difficult indeed, I believe the talks will ultimately reach a deadlock which the international community will eventually be compelled to mediate. I believe this is actually the most beneficial solution for the GoSL as its clear the SFG have no logical reason to reunite other than the false hope that all Somali regions will eventually be reunited, this is known as 'Somaliweyn' in Somali. This logic is incompatible to the realities on the ground in Somaliland and the aspirations of self-determination of the citizens of Somaliland. Somaliland's case for recognition is similar to every other annulled union around Africa and around the world e.g. Egypt/Syria and Senegal/Gambia. In conclusion, the inevitable outcome of the talks will ultimately come down the ability of the SFG to recognise the realities on the ground and act on the olive branch being presented. The SFG recently lost an MP within its compound Villa Somalia; this displays the challenges it faces by threats not just within the country, but within its capital Mogadishu from Al'Shabaab. The opportunity for creating an environment of mutual trust and cooperation is required now more than ever in Somalia and I believe the inexperience of the unelected Government in Mogadishu are either inadvertently or purposely harming Somalia's position in the region. The current status quo of delaying talks will not benefit the SFG but prove Somaliland has done everything and the situation calls for International intervention. Just last week I read reports of Somaliland's first car was assembled along with the reports that a French investor is ready for invest a substantial amount into the infrastructure of Berbera port; these projects which have been implemented with the GoSL is testament to the reality on the ground. Moreover, the recent return of Genel Energy will raise eyebrows across the globe, especially if a vast reserve is discovered. It's important to note than these Oil exploration licences were authorised by the GoSL and will be used to benefit its citizens only. There a several options available to the SFG, one would ensure an amicably separation based on mutual trust and friendly relations whilst the other option would add tension, mistrust and animosity in an already volatile region eventually compelling International companies to act on the stalemate and lobby for recognition in lieu of their clients operating in Somaliland. The main issue many large international corporations have in Somaliland is insuring their products/services. Due to Somaliland's status, financial services will not provide insurance because Somaliland is yet to be recognised, this is a barrier which I'm sure stakeholders will tackle if the Port of Berbera will be utilized effectively. It would be an embarrassment to President Hassan Sheikh who proclaimed the intention of unity whilst International Governments and NGO's continue to coordinate, liaise and forge bilateral relations with the Government of Somaliland, this itself adds to reinforce that the GoSL is the legitimate representative of Somalis living in that region. Irrevocable and not for negotiation sovereignty of SomalilandIrrevocable and not for negotiation sovereignty of Somaliland The inevitable conclusion to the Somalia-Somaliland talks will come down to the issue of freedom and the right to self-determination. Can a country enforce unity on another country? The answer is No. Somaliland earned it's statehood through the darkest of times looking down a barrel of a gun. Think about it, those born in 1991 when Independence was reinstated will be twenty two years old. Twenty two years in living in what they know as Somaliland, how do you reverse that historical, physical and emotional attachment? As long as Somalilanders continues to celebrate its Independence when it gained it from Britain on 26th June 1960, it will always remain a country in the hearts and minds of its citizens irrespective of recognition and that remembrance itself is the biggest obstacle for the SFG. The author Sayid Madar was born in Gabiley, Somaliland and currently lives in the UK. A business graduate and a Civil Servant employed by the UK Government. Interests include Foreign Policy & International development. Please note, views expressed are views of the author only. You can contact the author on: Blog: www.SJMadar.wordpress.com

Somaliland: The Inevitable Conclusion to the Talks with Somalia Monday, 16 December 2013 12:36 Submit to Delicious Submit to Digg Submit to Facebook Submit to Google Bookmarks Submit to Stumbleupon Submit to Technorati Submit to Twitter Submit to LinkedIn Signing never to be implemeted agreements in Turkey/fileSigning never to be implemeted agreements in Turkey/file By: Sayid Madar Somalilandsun - Twenty two years after self-declared Independence and twelve years after the ratification of Somaliland's constitution by popular vote, the democratically elected Government of Somaliland (GoSL) headed by its fourth president Ahmed Siilanyo had finally been given the opportunity to open dialogue with the internationally accepted President of the Somali Federal Government (SFG), Hassan Sheikh. Talks were inevitable and have been highly anticipated by the Somaliland Govt and the citizens of Somaliland who finally have the opportunity to finalize the reality after waiting decades for a credible Government to be formed and acknowledged by the International community. Somaliland is considered a self-governing autonomous region of Somalia even though it was one half of the former Somali Republic which was formed by voluntary union of British-Somaliland and Italian-Somalia; this formation disbanded after the Somali Civil War which the Socialist Military dictator Siyad Barre was held responsible for the massacre of an estimated 75,000 Somalilanders. During my several visits to Somaliland, to this present day there are still vivid reminders of that period whether it's the memorial in Hargeisa of the MIG which desecrated Somaliland's capital Hargeisa to naturally occurring reminders such as bones appearing on the riverbank every time the rivers flow in both Gabiley & Hargeisa. These talks have the ability to provide a platform for acknowledgement of the atrocities as well as compelling the SFG to realise the reality on the ground. Turkey initiated the first round of talks between the two sides to 'open dialogue' in Ankara on April 13th. The talks concluded with a memorandum of understanding known as the 'Ankara Communiqué. The Ankara Communiqué consisted of seven points which both side agreed which can be viewed on the Turkey's Foreign Affairs website. Unfortunately the talks didn't yield results in terms of breakthroughs from both SFG and GoSL, this deadlock became evident when SFG authorised an airplane to land within Somaliland's territory breaking point seven of the Ankara Communiqué. This led to the GoSL grounding all UN flights in and out of the country. This issue was resolved July 7th – 9th 2013 in Istanbul which both parties held further talks to rectify the situation. An agreement was reached which was to create a joint-control body which manages both airspace based in Hargeisa however this was reneged by the SFG which discreetly signed another agreement with the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO). The final talks was expected to take place in November however due to Political turmoil within the SFG which subsequently led to the ousting of its PM Saciid Shirdon, the talks were delayed on several occasions. Somaliland's FM Mohammed Bihi Younis who was the former Deputy Joint Special Representative for UNAMID in Darfur emphasized during an interview with a Somali news outlet that "... Somaliland is ready and has been ready for a while" reiterating that the conclusion of the talks will be "Somaliland and Somalia living side by side as neighbours and brothers as two countries as it has been over the last two decades." On the other hand, the SFG's President Hassan Sheikh proclaimed "We will do our best and unite with our brothers from Somaliland by early next year." In my view, this proclamation by President Hassan isn't just reckless, but almost borderline delusional as it is completely devoid of the reality on the ground in Somaliland. President Hassan has set the bar very high for himself which he'll soon realise. Somaliland unlike Somalia has stability which many argue is down to democracy. I agree to an extent that democracy is a factor which ensures a sense of national unity, participation and representation. The idea that Somalilanders will reunite again with Somalia to form another Somali Republic is a dream held closely by Somali Nationalists that are predominantly located within former Italia-Somalia who aspire to reunite all Somali speaking regions whether it's within Ethiopia, Kenya, Somaliland or Djibouti. Their arguments tend to be incompatible with the concept of democracy as they strongly feel there shouldn't be a choice. They believe there should be one Somali speaking country irrespective of freedom and choices. FM Behi Younis with Ban Ki MoonFM Behi Younis with Ban Ki Moon To understand the difficulty of a reunion with Somalia, I will address some hypothetical situations. Let's say for argument sake the GoSL agrees to reunite with Somalia to re-establish the Somali Republic again, this agreement would have to clear a few hurdles and acknowledge that:

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Dagaalo khasaare fara badan geystay oo Maalintii labaad ka socda Gobolka Shabeellada Hoose iyagoo ku fiday deegaanno cusub Axad, December 15, 2013 (HOL) — Dagaallo khasaare nafeed oo fara badan geystay ayaa maalintii labaad ka socda deegaanno ka tirsan gobolka Shabeellada Hoose ee Koonfurta Soomaaliya, iyadoo dagaalladan ay si xowli ah maanta uga socdaan deegaanno u dhexeeya degmooyinka Jannaale iyo Awdheegle. Wararka laga helayo gobolka Shabeellada Hoose ayaa sheegaya in 10-qof dad ka badan ay ku dhinteen dagaalladii maanta ayna ku dhaawacmeen in ka badan labaatameeyo qof, kuwaasoo qaarkood dhaawacyadooda la geeyay isbitaalka weyn ee degmada Marko. Deegaanka Busley oo ku dhow degmada Janaale ayaa la sheegay in maanta uu dagaalku gaaray, waxaana dadka ku dhintay dagaalka ay isugu jiraan dad rayid ah iyo beelaha uu dagaalku u dhexeeyay oo ay la kala safan yihiin ciidammo ka tirsan kuwa dowladda Soomaaliya. Sidoo kale, wararka ayaa waxay sheegayaan in rasaastii ay dhinacyadu isku adeegsanayeen ay dishay kontomeeyo neef oo xoolo ah, kuwaasoo meelo aan halka lagu dagaalamayo ka fogeyn, waxayna xoolahaa isugu jiraan geel, lo' iyo ari. Iskahorimaadyadan ayaa waxay daba socdaan dagaallo horay uga dhacayay gobolka Shabeellada Hoose, kuwaasoo u dhexeeya beelo dhul isku haysta, iyadoo aysan jirin wax talaabo ah oo ay dowladda Soomaaliya qaaday si loo joojiyo dagaalladaas. Boqolaal qoys oo ku noolaa deegaannada labada maalmood ay dagaalladu ka socdaan ayaa ka barakacya deegaannadooda, kuwaasoo gaaray meelo ka fog goobaha ay dagaalladu ka socdaan. Xildhibaano ka tirsan baarlamaanka Soomaaliya ayaa ku baaqay in dagaalka la joojiyo, iyagoo dowladda Soomaaliya iyo taliska guud ee ciidamada ugu baaqay inay qaadaan tallaabooyin dagaalladaas lagu joojinayo. Guddoomiyaha gobolka Shabeellada Hoose, C/qaadir Maxamed Nuur (Siidii) ayaa dagaalka ku tilmaamay mid nasiib-darro ah, wuxuuna dowaldda Soomaaliya ugu baaqay inay dadaal u gasho sidii dagaalladan lagu joojin lahaa. Sannadkan ayaa waxaa gobolka Shabeellada Hoose ka dhacay dagaallo ay ku naf-waayeen dad fara badan, kuwaasoo u dhexeeyay laba beelood oo taageeryo ka helaya ciidammo ka tirsan kuwa dowladda Soomaaliya oo qaab beeleed u abaabulan.

IGAD Appointed Ambassador Mohamed Abdi Affey as its Special Envoy to Somalia New IGAD envoy to Somalia Ambassador Mohamed Abdi Affey Press Release Sunday, December 15, 2013 Ads by BetterSurfAd Options The Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD) today announced that Ambassador Mohamed Abdi Affey as its Special Envoy to Somalia. H.E. Ambassador Affey is a veteran parliamentarian and politician who was Kenya's ambassador to Somalia in 2003, facilitated the Mbagathi Somalia peace process and led the Kenyan delegation that participated the inauguration of the Somali Government of president Abdulkassim Salat Hassan. Welcoming the newly appointed envoy, The Executive Secretary of IGAD, Ambassador Mahboub Maalim, emphasized the critical significance of Ambassador Affey's role in consolidating the peace in Somalia and wished him well in this important assignment. Source: IGAD