25 Sep 2009 09:19:19 GMT Source: Reuters * Set conditions on voter list, election date * Opposition wants Kahin impeached over delays By Hussein Ali Noor HARGEISA, Sept 25 (Reuters) - Clan elders in northern Somalia's breakaway enclave of Somaliland voted on Friday to extend President Dahir Riyale Kahin's term on condition that a voter list be finalised and a date set for a presidential election. It was the third time since April 2008 that Somaliland's upper House of Elders has extended Kahin's term, which was due to expire on Oct. 29. Opposition politicians in the lower House of Representatives have demanded the president be impeached. Somaliland has enjoyed relative peace compared with the rest of Somalia since the Horn of Africa nation descended into chaos in 1991. But repeated delays to the presidential poll have worried rights groups and donors, as well as angered the opposition. Suleiman Mohamoud Aden, chairman of the House of Elders, called for a vote after an all-night discussion of what he called the "delicate situation" and potential power vacuum. "We want you to vote for the extension of the president's term based on the completion of the voter list by the international technical committee and the fixing of the election date with the national electoral commission," Aden said. All of the 77 other members then present voted to extend Kahin's term to last for one month after the ballot, whenever that might be. A poll set for July was put back to Sept. 27, but the electoral commission postponed it again earlier this month. The commission said it had ordered the latest delay because of rising concerns about whether a fair vote could be held in a political climate inflamed by disputes over the voter register. Somaliland -- which has long sought international recognition as sovereign state -- is governed by the opposition-led House of Representatives, which is elected by the people, and an upper house comprised of senior clan elders. Members of the lower house traded blows in the chamber and one politician pulled out a pistol earlier this month when the proposal to impeach Kahin came up for debate. The African Union says it is concerned and has appealed for calm. [iD:nL8315188] On Wednesday, a senior minister in the Mogadishu government said southern Somalia's al Shabaab insurgents were also seeking to exploit the growing tensions in Somaliland. [iD:nLN012244] (Writing by Daniel Wallis; Editing by David Clarke) AlertNet news is provided by

Originally posted by General Duke: Yup Riyaale sure knows how to play with them clever politicians of the NW. Don't you agree Marx? Yeah president riyaale is much smarter then your sh hotel.

Well the average somalilander is more intelligent then the average koonfurian there for our politicians , are more intelligent then sh dalxiis and macaw iyo wixii la caana maala

Originally posted by djibsomali: lol!!! i am laughing out loud..... It seems a good dose of khat have made them to initiate to create an other govenment along side mirqan existing government. What did i tell you?? The whole lot are a allucination mirqan affected people.. let the fun start!!! 1994 civil war reloaded!!! walii waad yara bugta lol ilahay haku daweyo

Originally posted by Cowke: Xaaji Xunjuf, what will protests do? do you think Riyale cares? Sxb Rayale owns hargeysa and if anyone has an issue with it, he will kick their butt. That is what you don't get, Rayale might not talk much like siilanyo but he takes care of bizness the old-fashioned way. He is effective, strong, and if anyone gets in his way all hell is to pay. Deal with your fate son, you are now second class citizen yet again. Ceeb kuma harsan, dhulkaga manta niin baa kugu haysto and all somalis are just laughing their asses off. sxb riyaale is madaxweyne somalilander ah xukunka uun buu yara jeclaystey marka xanjo baa kursigii ku dhajiisay , but he will be gone soon maxa meesha keenay second class citizen sxb riyaale aniga doortay , isna wuxu diiday inu doorasho qabto

GUDDOOMIYAYAASHA MUCAARADKA OO BERI ISU-SOO-BAX DED DEG AH UGU BAAQAY SHACABKA Hargeysa (Sooyaal.com)- Guddoomiyayaasha Axsaabta Mucaaradka ah ee KULMIYE iyo UCID ayaa caawa shacabweynaha ugu baaqay inay isu-soo-bax isugu yimaadaan Golaha Baarlamaanka hortiisa, si looga hortego muddo-kordhin ay damacsan yihiin Mudanayaasha Xukuumadda taageersan ee Guurtidu. Waxaanay sheegeen in haddii Xukuumadda loo kordhiyo ay Mucaarad ahaan dhisayaan Dawlad. Labada Guddoomiye Xisbi Mucaarad ee KULMIYE Axmed Maxamed Maxamuud (Siilaanyo) iyo UCID Eng. Faysal Cali Waraabe oo ay weheliyaan Masuuliyiin labadaa Xisbi ka tirsan, ayaa shir-jaraa’id oo ay caawa ku qabteen Hutel Imperial ee Hargeysa ugu baaqay shacabweynaha Hargeysa ku dhaqan inay isugu yimaadaan isu-soo-bax ay sheegeen in lagaga hortegayo in Golaha Guurtidu muddada ugu kordhiso Madaxtooyada. “Madaxweynuhu wuxuu maanta qasbay Golaha Guurtida qayb ka mid ah oo uu doonayay inay u kordhiyaan..Waxaanu doonaynaa inay umaddu isu-soo-baxdo oo ay diido, sidii ay horeba u diidi jirtay oo ay Golaha Guurtida isugu hor yimaadaan.” Sidaa waxa yidhi Guddoomiyaha KULMIYE Axmed-Siilaanyo. Dhinaca kale, Guddoomiyaha UCID Eng. Faysal Cali Waraabe oo isna halkaa ka hadlay, ayaa eedayn u jeediyay Madaxweyne Rayaale. Waxaanu baaq u diray Qoysaska saddex Mudane oo ka tirsan Shirguddoonka iyo Golaha Guurtida. “Dad jilicsan oo haddii la taabto Naftu ka raacayso ayaa jira’e, waxaan u jeedinayaa Qoysaska saddexda Oday ee X. Cabdi-waraabe, Sh. Axmed Furre (Guddoomiye-xigeenka 1aad) iyio Siciid (Guddoomiye-xigeenka 2aad) inay joojiyaan beri.” Inkasta oo labada Xisbi Mucaarad ay diideen in Su’aalo la waydiiyo, haddana waxay halkaa ka akhriyeen Warsaxaafadeed u dhignaa sidan; “QORSHAHA GUURTIDA QAYB KA MID AH EE MUDDO KORDHINTA XILKA MADAXTOOYADA: 1-Digniin ku wajahan talaabada guracan ee qayb ka mid ah Golaha Guurtidu go’aansadeen in barito oo Jimce ah oo taariikhdu tahay 25 September, 2009 ay isugu yimaadaan fadhi ay ku doonayaan muddo kordhin ay u samaynayaan Madaxweynaha iyo ku-xigeenkiisa xilkoodii dhammaanayo 29 October, 2009, kaasoo sharciga baalmarsan, layskuna waafaqsanayn, lidna ku ah aqbalaadii 6-dii qodob ee beesha caalamku u soo jeediyeen saddexda Xisbi Qaran, kuwaas oo ay aqbaleen saddexda Xisbiba. 2-Sidoo kale, ayaa looga digayaa Madaxweynaha, Xukuumadiisa, iyo Xisbigiisa UDUB ee u tafaxaytay meel-marinta mooshinkaas muddo kordhinta ee aan la isku raacsanayn, isla markaana ka hor-imanaya shuruucda iyo heshiisyadii ay wada galeen saddexda Xisbi Qaran., kaasoo dalka u horseedaya qalalaase iyo burbur. 3-Waxaanu ku wargelinaynaa Shacab weynaha Somaliland gudde iyo dibedba iyo Guddiyadii kala duwanaa ee isku xilsaaray dhexdhexaadinta iyo xalinta khilaafaadka siyaasadeed ee ka oogan dalka inuu dhabarjebiyey Xisbiga talada hayaa ee uu Guddoomiyaha ka yahay Daahir Riyaale Kaahin, isagoo horena horseed ka ahaa muranka siyaasadeed ee ka oogan dalka. 4-Sidoo kale, waxaanu ku wargelinaynaa beesha caalamka ee daneeya Somaliland iyo wadamada aynu saaxiibka nahay ee deriska ah, muddadana ku hawlanaa xal-u-helida khilaafyada siyaasadeed iyo kuwa sharciyeed ee dalka ka jira in xukuumadda Riyaale ay hortaagan tahay dedaalkii iyo gunaanadkii iyo soo ururintii qodobada saldhiga u noqonaya heshiis waara oo dhex mara saddexda Xisbi Qaran, una horseeda qabsoomidda doorasho xor oo xalaal ah. Waxa nasiib darro ah, in Xisbigii shalay ogolaaday tallo bixintii beesha caalamka, inuu maantana si badheedh ah gaashaanka ugu dhuftay, diidayna hir-gelintiisa, una diga-rogtay muddo kordhin khasab ah, oo aan raali laga wada ahayn, isla markaana u horseedaysa dalka burbur, halisna gelinaysa jiritaanka Somaliland. Waxay labada Xisbi Qaran ee UCID iyo KULMIYE ugu baaqayaan dadweynaha Somaliland inuu galbaday hanaankii doorasho, mugdina uu galay midnimadii shacabweynaha Somaliland, iyada oo ay Guurtidu abaalmarin uga dhigayso Madaxweyne Riyaale iyo ku xigeenkiisa muddo kordhin aan sharciga waafaqsanayn, ka dib markii ay ku guuldaraysteen mas’uuliyadii ka saarnayn gudashada waajibaadkooda Qaran, isla markaana suurta-gelin waayey qabsoomida doorashooyin ka hirgala dalka wakhtigii loogu talo galay. Sidaas awgeed, Labada Xisbi ee UCID iyo KULMIYE waxay ugu baaqayaan dadweynaha Somaliland iyo bulshada Caalamka inay ka hortagaan qalalaasaha la abuurayo ee saamaynaya Somaliland iyo dalalka aynu deriska nahay. Haddaba, waxay labada Xisbi Qaran ku boorinayaan muwaadiniinta Somaliland inay kaalintooda ka qaataan badbaadinta iyo samata-bixinta Qaranka haadaanta ka laalaada, waxaanay u arkaan in halistaasi soo foodsaartay dalka lagu badbaadin karo kacdoon shacbi oo ka qabsooma dalka oo dhan. Ugu danbayntii, waxay labada Xisbi Qaran ee UCID iyo KULMIYE xusuusinayaan ciidanka booliska inay waajibaadkooda nabadgalyo gutaan, hase yeeshee ka taxadiraan ku xad-gudubka xuquuqda muwaadinka.” Source Somaliland.Org Date: 2009-09-24 Readed 35 Times

Xisbiyada mucaaridka oo ku baaqay isku soo bax golaha guurtida hortiisa bari aroorta Hogaamiyaasha xisbiyada mucaaridka oo ku xanjabay inay dawlad dhisayaan hadii bari golaha guurtidu u kordhiyaan wakhtiga madaxwayne Riyaaale iyo ku xigeenkisa Hargeyssa(GNS)Guddoo miyayaasha Axsaabta Mucaaradka ah ee KULMIYE iyo UCID ayaa caawa shacabweynaha ugu baaqay inay isu-soo-bax isugu yimaadaan Golaha Baarlamaanka hortiisa, Si bay yiraahdeen looga hortago in in golaha guurtidu isku dayaan inay xukuumada u kordhiyaan mardanbe.Waxaanay cadeeyeen hogaamiyaasha labada xisbi mucaarid in hadiiba ay dhacdo in ay u kordhiyaan wakhti dheeraad ah dolwada hadda jirta ee uu hogaaminayo Daahir Riyaale iyo Axmed Yuusuf Yaasiin ay markaasi iyaguna dhinacooda ku dhawaaqi doonaa dowlad kale. Hadaba warmurtiyeedka ay soo saareen labada xisbi wuxuu u qornaa sidatan: “QORSHAHA GUURTIDA QAYB KA MID AH EE MUDDO KORDHINTA XILKA MADAXTOOYADA: 1-Digniin ku wajahan talaabada guracan ee qayb ka mid ah Golaha Guurtidu go’aansadeen in barito oo Jimce ah oo taariikhdu tahay 25 September, 2009 ay isugu yimaadaan fadhi ay ku doonayaan muddo kordhin ay u samaynayaan Madaxweynaha iyo ku-xigeenkiisa xilkoodii dhammaanayo 29 October, 2009, kaasoo sharciga baalmarsan, layskuna waafaqsanayn, lidna ku ah aqbalaadii 6-dii qodob ee beesha caalamku u soo jeediyeen saddexda Xisbi Qaran, kuwaas oo ay aqbaleen saddexda Xisbiba. 2-Sidoo kale, ayaa looga digayaa Madaxweynaha, Xukuumadiisa, iyo Xisbigiisa UDUB ee u tafaxaytay meel-marinta mooshinkaas muddo kordhinta ee aan la isku raacsanayn, isla markaana ka hor-imanaya shuruucda iyo heshiisyadii ay wada galeen saddexda Xisbi Qaran., kaasoo dalka u horseedaya qalalaase iyo burbur. 3-Waxaanu ku wargelinaynaa Shacab weynaha Somaliland gudde iyo dibedba iyo Guddiyadii kala duwanaa ee isku xilsaaray dhexdhexaadinta iyo xalinta khilaafaadka siyaasadeed ee ka oogan dalka inuu dhabarjebiyey Xisbiga talada hayaa ee uu Guddoomiyaha ka yahay Daahir Riyaale Kaahin, isagoo horena horseed ka ahaa muranka siyaasadeed ee ka oogan dalka. 4-Sidoo kale, waxaanu ku wargelinaynaa beesha caalamka ee daneeya Somaliland iyo wadamada aynu saaxiibka nahay ee deriska ah, muddadana ku hawlanaa xal-u-helida khilaafyada siyaasadeed iyo kuwa sharciyeed ee dalka ka jira in xukuumadda Riyaale ay hortaagan tahay dedaalkii iyo gunaanadkii iyo soo ururintii qodobada saldhiga u noqonaya heshiis waara oo dhex mara saddexda Xisbi Qaran, una horseeda qabsoomidda doorasho xor oo xalaal ah. Waxa nasiib darro ah, in Xisbigii shalay ogolaaday tallo bixintii beesha caalamka, inuu maantana si badheedh ah gaashaanka ugu dhuftay, diidayna hir-gelintiisa, una diga-rogtay muddo kordhin khasab ah, oo aan raali laga wada ahayn, isla markaana u horseedaysa dalka burbur, halisna gelinaysa jiritaanka Somaliland. Waxay labada Xisbi Qaran ee UCID iyo KULMIYE ugu baaqayaan dadweynaha Somaliland inuu galbaday hanaankii doorasho, mugdina uu galay midnimadii shacabweynaha Somaliland, iyada oo ay Guurtidu abaalmarin uga dhigayso Madaxweyne Riyaale iyo ku xigeenkiisa muddo kordhin aan sharciga waafaqsanayn, ka dib markii ay ku guuldaraysteen mas’uuliyadii ka saarnayn gudashada waajibaadkooda Qaran, isla markaana suurta-gelin waayey qabsoomida doorashooyin ka hirgala dalka wakhtigii loogu talo galay. Sidaas awgeed, Labada Xisbi ee UCID iyo KULMIYE waxay ugu baaqayaan dadweynaha Somaliland iyo bulshada Caalamka inay ka hortagaan qalalaasaha la abuurayo ee saamaynaya Somaliland iyo dalalka aynu deriska nahay. Haddaba, waxay labada Xisbi Qaran ku boorinayaan muwaadiniinta Somaliland inay kaalintooda ka qaataan badbaadinta iyo samata-bixinta Qaranka haadaanta ka laalaada, waxaanay u arkaan in halistaasi soo foodsaartay dalka lagu badbaadin karo kacdoon shacbi oo ka qabsooma dalka oo dhan. Ugu danbayntii, waxay labada Xisbi Qaran ee UCID iyo KULMIYE xusuusinayaan ciidanka booliska inay waajibaadkooda nabadgalyo gutaan, hase yeeshee ka taxadiraan ku xad-gudubka xuquuqda muwaadinka.” Gabileynews desk Hargeysa

There is not much freedom left sxb^^

Oke impeachment stops now what , Muddo kordhin for riyaale and yasin should stop 2 marka maha.

I listen to radio horyaal

Well at least Kenya they hold election we can’t even do proper voter registration , horta inaku aynu doorasho qabsano markasaynu Kenya iyo waxa ka hadlii karna Mar serferka bukka mar boolashi ba ka lummay serferkii jamac Sweden ba dismiskii ka lummay imika waxay leeyihin komishanki ba aynu baddalno

Dhubad somalidu waxay tirahda tiisa daryeela aya tu kalla ku darra war tiisii ba balan ballaysa Somaliland doorassho iyo dimuqradiyad iyo xeer sharcii bay isku haystaan, Koonfuriansku tu ka darran ba haysata is qarxiin iyo fiidmo kalle

Koonfurians oo toodii meel uu la a aya teenii ka hadlayaan lol

hadaad ka dartay waleh riyaale pettition ayaanu ku taggayn

loooooool Aniga somaliland doorasho waan gaadhsiin laha laakin riyaale iga Shakiya he thinks inan silanyo la jiiro

Xassan ciise jamac was the first vice president of Somaliland he retired and is not involved in the whole kulmiye ucid udub thing he is not a member of guurtii or golaha wakiilada Cali ciid was the president of kilinka shanaad he is lives in hargeisa is not involved in Somaliland politics Iebrahein meygaag samater left the country when Somaliland was declared and left the country he writes articles for Somaliland. He comes now and then to Somaliland is not involved in politics Bal adigu jacayl barro ciid ku soo darro rag aad uu firfircoon oo doorasha na gaadhsiin karra ayaan soo bandhigay bal adiga yaa adiga kula haboon inu xilka qabti ila daroosho la gaadhayo.

MujIebrahien meygaag samatar Cali iid Muj Xassan ciise jamac Suldan abdirizaaq Umar carte qalib Sheik adan siiro Sheikh dirir wa buux sxb rag aan siyaasada somaliland shaqo ku lahayn diibada dalka ka jooga gudaha na jooga

Originally posted by djibsomali: When i say that these people are always in hallucination and far from any knowledge is a proof that somali could see in here. if anyone knows the knowledge of one the Intervenient in this thread sol would never had accepted in this midst where minimal education is a requirement to intervene. the proof that the whole country is a mirqan invested open space marfash is as follow: the following saying in this thread: "Possibility of nominating an independent person to lead for elections". Horta are they real this people or is there knowledge so limited that they don't even know the constitution of somaliland? i call it the mirqan constitution. IT is says clearly the following: THE ELECTED PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT CAN ONLY BE REPLACED BY AN OTHER ELECTED PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT. Look a simple and fundamental passage of your own constitution is being lectured by a person who is not even from mirqan land (myself). But then again what do you expect? somaliland is a land where nassaabnimo and somalinimo is far removed from. The proof: two subclan from two different clan figth on farmland where even tomotoes don't grow. 1 subclan loose the war as always and lost a lot of men. instead of figthing back what they do? an act never seen in somali nassaabnimo history. They set a roadbloc catch innocent travelers that not even related to the figthing subclan. and slaugther them because they share the same embrella clan name. That is the state of mirqan far removed from reality state called by some somaliland. your a very angry man

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: I asked you WHO ???? ,,, We all know who is who no ??? ,,,, Look at those politicians and tell me who is "independent" ,,,,,, i was thinking of the young sultan Sultan abdirisaaq who lives in emeraatka. oo aan siyaasada ku jiirin like his adeer

Miid ay sadexda xisbi qarran dawlada iyo golaha guurtiida iyo golaha wakiilada ba oggalyihin , shacabkuna diidi mayo.. Qof wadanka uu soo halgamay dadku ku qanacsanyihin. Its not that hard to find an honest person, but are they willing to do that.

Possibility of nominating an independent person to lead for elections that’s the best option the rest wont work these sultans are all allied to daahir riyaale kahin Men like suldan maxammad suldaan cabdiqadiir ina dhabeyee iyo boqor buur madow come one you know these men are riyaales puppet. I don’t trust these sultans.

Horan uu sheegay odaygan sh dalxiis wuu ka nooladay jaggadii madaxweynenimada lol

Originally posted by NASSIR: "Somaliland" had never existed as a de jure state. Better recognize the farmers of Bay and Bakool than the nomads of Hargeisa and Bur'o. At least the farmers have a distinct language and suffered immensely under the nomadic invasion and occupation. One thing I know for sure dadku hadanay rabbin inay dall wadaagaan waleh wadaagii mayaan oo is raacii mayaan , and dadka Somaliland waddadooda way jeexdan ciid ka soo celiin karta ma jirto. Somaliland existed in 1960 and it was recognized by 34 states including 4 security council members. Somaliland joined another country to form a greater Somalia. There is no difference between Somaliland and Eritrea, The only difference is Ethiopia was a kingdom And Somalia was not.

Originally posted by GAAROODI: VIVA UDUB....VIVA UDUB... NO OFFENSE SAXIBAYAL...BUT I WOULD TRUST ETHEIR OF THESE TWO GUYS FAISAL OR SILANYO AND FAISAL IS HAILS FROM THE SAME REGION AND CLAN AS ME, BUT WHO CARES, I WOULDNT TRUST HIM WITH MY COUNTRY. I TRUST A MAN WHO COMES FROM BORAMA, NOT BECAUSE HE IS FROM BORAMA BUT BECAUSE HE HAS PROVEN HIMSELF EFFECTIVE, SOMALILAND IS NUMBER ONE UNDER HIS HELM. VIVA UDUB, VIVA RIYALE !! Sxb you would trust Silanyo to lead the snm from 1982 till 1988 the longest snm chairman of Somaliland, the liberation army of Somaliland. I would trust him with Somaliland more then any one. To be honest I was supporting daahir riyaale and axmed yusuf yasin and udub till 2006. But my friend udub hasn’t made any progress since they where in office we are where we where when cigaal died aun. No elections no democracy no running water in hargeisa no road from gabiley to borame , if you would say riyaale is from borame he didn’t even fix the road from dila to borame sxb . Sxb we have one option is to have an interim government that will hold elections. Because mar bala kordhiye mar labaad bala kordhiye mar sadexaad bala kordhiye , ma mar affaraad hadda la kordhiyo do you think riyaale and udub will hold election haba ka yaabin.

Riyaale is dhab is dead dhabtii libaaxa way dhimatay he was ina bulaale