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There is no change just more writers with nothing really to write, writing about their feelings with slogans here and their will not change a cent on the ground back home. I love writers that love to write how this is wrong but never talk about soultions to problems. This writer as issue with somaliland we get that but for the love of all things good, whats the point of moaning and crying about things why dont they put down some ideas on the ground to bridage the gap between the two people. Writers like him just feul the extremist on both sides and makes both people to view each other in lens of anger.
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Question for you General Duke, lets say Oil is found in Puntland who gets the bulk of the money your state or the TFG, or will you have system being done in Iraq were the oil wealth is distrabuted evenly throughout all of somalia, cause in talking to some puntlanders they tell me the bulk of the money will go to them and little left over will go to the other regions.
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Yemen first to open an Embassy in Mogadishu..
SomaliThinker replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
Yemen has alot to explain with, even though the government took in refugee from Somalia, the treatment of somalis in that nation is awful. I went to Yemen to visit my mother and driving aroud the city i saw somalis begging or washing cars to send money to their families in the camps. The sad point of my trip is when i meet a somali refugee in restaurant. He was my waiter and i shocked to find out the meal i and my mother got was the same amount he made in month. This action plus watching their tv and seeing the people say somalis are bringing crime to their cities angered me more of the whole reality on the ground in Yemen. Thank you for giving refugee statis to somalis but No thank you for treating them like none-humans when they get there. -
Yemen first to open an Embassy in Mogadishu..
SomaliThinker replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
Yemen has alot to explain with, even though the government took in refugee from Somalia, the treatment of somalis in that nation is awful. I went to Yemen to visit my mother and driving aroud the city i saw somalis begging or washing cars to send money to their families in the camps. The sad point of my trip is when i meet a somali refugee in restaurant. He was my waiter and i shocked to find out the meal i and my mother got was the same amount he made in month. This action plus watching their tv and seeing the people say somalis are bringing crime to their cities angered me more of the whole reality on the ground in Yemen. Thank you for giving refugee statis to somalis but No thank you for treating them like none-humans when they get there. -
President opens EU, World Bank forum on development Posted to the web Jan 21 2007, 03 58 Printable view | Email this Article | Translate | Submit article Jan 21 2007 - The president of the Republic of Somaliland, Dahir Riyale Kahin, today opened a meeting on reconstruction and economic development in the country. The three-day meeting will be attended by the three arms of the government, NGOs, UN agencies, donors and the World Bank. The minister of national planning, Hon Ali Ibrahim Muhammad, said the meeting will discuss two proposals on reconstruction and development which was presented by the World Bank, UN agencies, Norway and the EU commission. The meeting will conclude previous other discussions and is expected to formulate five-year development projects worth over 500m dollars. The minister said these would improve the living standard of the people and create jobs. The development projects include roads, airports and others
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LOL mystic good points
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agree peaceful talk between each group should come, General on both sides.
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Who is attacking who, last time i checked brother on BBC AFRICA, CNN, FOX, NBC, no fighting was occuring in those regions you talk about. The issue of SSC will be resolved peacefully, segments in those regions support somaliland while others dont, thats the current isssue on the ground, hopefully talks between two governments will occur sooner then letter so we can put this behind us.
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Sorry red sea had to jump into this for one sec and i walk way from this running in circles topic. 1. Taako, taking quotes lines that single your view point of what you think a whole group of people think, too can play in that game of quoting crazy lines like the Somalia’s internal affairs minister and assistant prime Minster, Hussein Mohammed Farah, said loool. It was and i quote " Ethiopia and Somalia have 2,000 kilometers between them. The two Shabelle and Jubba rivers in Somalia come from Ethiopia. Now we need to eliminate the boundaries between us because we are brothers, and we will use one passport" So please brother Taako thats the pot calling the kittal black lool. Your argument that Somalilander leadership view Ethiopia with more love then other somalis is weak, picking this one guies view was weak. So from this quote by your TFG minister should i assume the TFG view open one nation policy with ethiopia mmmm. 2.raadamiir, your stuck in you opinion of the old man so i will go no futher in debating it you have your view so i close it with that. 3. General, you may call the peaceful life in Somaliland delussional but i call it home sweet home lool. May the people mantain the peace, the growth of there city's, schools, and life. Let the nation and its people learn and grow to be strong nation.
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LOOL Abu_Geeljire good one Raadamiir, There is reality but not the one you are showing here my brother. The TFG leader is not popular man regardless on who much you pump up his war record in Somaliland or large areas of the South thats a reality. The U.N., A.U. and even the army the brought TFG into the south Ethiopia now of the reality of Somaliland, thats why you have delegations traveling there and Ethiopian office there. The NGO'S, news orgainzations, politicail think tanks no the reality of somaliland. There so much reality about the recongnizion of this area its mind blowing. The other big reality is the fact is the world see this issue of only being resolved through talk. Brother, raadamiir you may view Somaliland as non existing region, but others do so bro dont confuss opinions with facts. The African Union for heavens sake brought a fact finding mission to the country, EU delegations visited there, U.S. reps have talked to leadershiop in Somaliland, so i ask you this question if Somaliland doese not exist how come all this organizations, leaderships are talking to government in Somaliland, how come Ethiopia is making trade agreements with Somaliland to use its ports, i thought only the TFG was the only group they could talk to use somali ports. Its clear from your view you belive in Unity and i respect that but brother unity is not the end all to be all of things. Having the same language and religon doese not mean people should all be one nation, if that the case why not have UK, America, Austrialia one nation they are similar in language, relgion, and ethnicity or even the Arabs. You may view unity as needed but if unity causes division with the nation its bad. The reality is right now Somalia needs to get back on her feet and clean the internal house of bad people and then talk to somaliland. In somaliland case the same most occur of new leadership coming, which honest and fourth right with the people. So in closing my brother, there is a saying truth is in the eye of the beholder, thus your reality may not be the reality for others thus do not assume you know the reality on the ground.
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Raadamir like i told Taako, viewing a whole group of people negatively is like how the KKK view black people, which is in ****** light if you belive in that thats your view but be ready to hear comments back at it. Second the issue of Somalia and Somaliland is at were it was year ago, only through talk can peace in both regions occur your President in your mind is President but please brother dont force it down other people thus the same way i dont force my views down on you. This debate i have seen the negative aspect somalis have which thus shows me why somalis as people dont get along.
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Again with the rudness you must be blind not to see what you write, but i now know talking about it with you would be like telling a blind person to read for me lool. Evovling is strong word but a fact like or not old boy, the reason why i keep going back to 275 is the comment you made to Red sea, which i felt was not fair on your point. If you dont know what i am talking about look it up on your past post to red sea and you will see were i am talking about lol, but allas i sense from our commments to each other you the type of person who does not fully check what they say. Lastly you have what i stated before an issue of thinking people are attacking you or your view point lol were is this North West is better then South issue coming from with you strange, you may think all somalilanders want to see the death of the south buts not reality, but saddly i think with you its to late to change your views of somalilanders, you are in my closed minded and like tring to tell someone from the KKK that not all black people are bad, they just wont belive you. So in closing thank you for the Bravo Buddy, but i think you should have the braveo yourself for getting into a fourm like this, you may not want to make friends with your fellow somalis which i found humors for person always screaming on the top of their lung of somali unity and somalia ha noolaato lool very strange indeed.
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Again Taako your rudness comes out crystal clear lool. The north west evolved in there democracy to stage were it is today with one man one vote that does not yet exist in Somalia thats my point old boy . Second if the 4.5 forumula is so bad in your view why on earth did you use it as example old boy lol. Third your show of tring to say sorry is sad, if you have no care if others tell you that what you say to them is offensive then in your case i will have no issue if people in this room attack you. The truth old boy is your rude member the likes i have seen on somalinet, the only differences is that you dont outright use bad words in this forum but insult people in other ways, tisk tisk how sad.
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Taako, you have the biggist chip on your shoulder with your bad mind set, being rude is something you most enjoy, but i find higly sad about the way you approach people and debating. This is forum and people can jump in so telling me in your rude way to get out of the talk, tells me you not type of person i should have an open debate with. Now going back to your points to me reading your response i found nothing that rebukes my claim that the average somali person on the street back home elected large sections of the TFG. You may see it different but looking at the issue back home in the universial view of what democracy is and what a democratic elections are which electing leaders to repsent them i found that none of 275 members were elected by the people of Somalia none., if i am wrong please and the people elected them please clarify it for me loool. Second point is that you have warlords in the 275 not choosen by the people in that regions who are hated, if you read my post you would have seen i never said all the 275 memebers were Warlords, but like typical a somalinet debater you jump the gun and insult people. I dont know if you think people are attacking you personally in this forum but you got to relax old boy. Third 4.5 forumula is highly conterversial in somali politics . The average somali person view it negativeily from what i have read and the people i talked to. The avereage citizens in Somalia, the average man or woman never voted infavor of the 4.5 forumula thats why ICU had great appeal to the mass of somalis who view the 4.5 as bad thing. Now please brother refram from insulting the messager just putting in my 2cents. So before i go i will not let your outburst of rudeness towards blind me to write harsh insulting stabs back at you, but i will debate you if i see you are only looking at issue at one side and rejecting and insulting the other side old boy, so get use to me jumping in your debates lol.
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Taako you must be fair with red sea, the 278 members were filled with larege sections of warlords with no public grass root support second this is call a transitional government meaning its temporary thus not a truely legitmate government where the average man or woman voted for thier elected government. IF the old man won the peoples vote i would not say a thing but the fact he got a elected by body were half are not even legitmately elected from their reigons makes your comapring him with the somaliland leader weak. While riyale is ***** leader he was freely elected by the people in free manner in that region, you can not say to me in staight face that the TFG President came to power through the will of the average somali person back home, its like comparing apples and organges. Capitan your view of death is sad, i think death and war is man made issue that can only be resolved through talk and not war.
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