A deeper understanding of Islam will inevitably bring about the realization that the ahlul sunnah wa jamaaca and the shiica are the branches of the same tree. Beware of the salafi/wahhabi's misplaced zeal, there understanding is superficial but their ego is colossal. Kowneyn

Jaamac bootan: We view Riyaale et al, as a passing nuisance, a temporary glitch in the system or a small bump on our journey to a Somaliland which will make all somalis proud. Kowneyn

Riyaale and his government's most irresponsible behaviour is far from innocent political blunder. There is a deliberate attempt to provoke and/or alienate the clan that has been the staunchest and the most unwavering supporter of Somaliland at the worst possible moment. And it seems that this administrations persistence is finally paying off. Riyaale, a man mentioned in the book "a government at war with its people" which documented his part in the genocide against the people of Somaliland seems to be staying loyal to his past. Kowneyn

MILITARY: COULD THE BOQOR BE ARRESTED IN CEEL AFWEYN? THE ANSWER IS NO BECAUSE THERE IS HARDLY ANY GOVERNMENT PRESENT THERE. IN OTHERWORDS, HE WAS AN AMBASSADOR OF HIS PEOPLE WHILE IN HARGAYSA, THAT ALONE SHOULD HAVE MADE HIM IMMUNE TO THE COWARDLY ACTIONS OF RAYAALE AND HIS CRONIES. AS FAR AS POLITICS IS CONCERNED ITS CLEAR THAT IT WAS THE GOVERNMENT WHO ASKED HIM FOR HIS HELP. MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS A VOICE OF HIS PEOPLE HE HAS A RIGHT TO HIS OPINION AND HE HAS A RIGHT TO OPPOSE THE WAR IN A DEMOCRATIC STATE, WHICH IS WHAT WE CLAIM TO BE. THE ARREST OF BUUR MADOW BECAUSE OF HIS PROPOSAL OF A PEACE INITIATIVE IS A NEW LOW FOR A GOVERNMENT FILLED WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY HAUNTED BY THEIR OLD RECORD OF CRIMES. WE HOPE THAT IT WILL NOT BE A BEGINNING OF A DARK CHAPTER AND A REVERSAL TOO THE OLD WAYS. KOWNEYN

Liqaye, The struggle was holy but the jury is still out on its outcome. Abu-Amaar: I have seen the taunting and vexing of the two camps on this site. Its fun and games to you guys but people may be dying soon. Kowneyn

Most sincere Somalilanders are saddened and baffled by what has become of their noble struggle. In what unfortunate twist of fate did Rayaale a war criminal become the law and the ruler over his victims, while revered peacemakers and elders are abused and mistreated as traitors? When did a shirtless goon like nasir become the mouthpiece for our holy struggle? Kowneyn

Most sincere Somalilanders are saddened and baffled by what has become of their noble struggle. In what unfortunate twist of fate did Rayaale a war criminal become the law and the ruler over his victims, while revered peacemakers and elders are abused and mistreated as traitors? When did a shirtless goon like nasir become the mouthpiece for our holy struggle? Kowneyn

Nasir: To say that his tribe arrested boqor buur madow is to add insult to injury. Perhaps few shortsighted and Somaliland crazed politicians may agree with this most disrespectful move on the part of this government, but the majority of his tribe are pissed and if he is not released immediately we will be at the door of the presidential palace very soon inshallaah. The current Somaliland is not what thousands of sincere people fought for. This government is a result of Egal's shameless attempt in replacing the ***** government with ****** government. It was unbridled greed and selfishness that dashed the hopes of the Somali nation then and its exactly what threatens Somaliland today. Its time that both siyaadist and egalist take a back seat and allow for the selfless and sincere sector to build a nation that is muslim and democratic and where eqaulity and justice are the rule. The first thing on the agenda is to get rid of Rayaale by hook or by crook. Kowneyn Please don't use qabiil names on your post next time Admin. [ January 28, 2004, 07:35 AM: Message edited by: Admin ]

One year or so ago, I told u mark my words the Wahhabi dynasty will fall and soon. Today, the salafi/wahhabi/Saud Family, the Khawarijism of our age are bickering and turning against each other all because their western masters are unhappy. Jinni ninkii keena bixiya. ALLAH assigned their former masters the west and their chief financier the Saud dynasty to remove this scourge from the ummah. Oh ALLAH cleanse the ummah of this scourge and raise the flag of your religion again above all other religions and philosophies. Soon the deviant teachings of this sect will be history and unable to corrupt and divide the ummah, inshallaah. Kowneyn

Gediid, I am even willing to drive that train sxb. Kowneyn

The first and foremost prerequisite for any Unity is fully independent Somaliland. Once Somaliland is irrevocably independent and viable, recognized internationally especially by other Somali states like djibouti and Somalia then and only then can the unity of Somalis be contemplated. At that time creative ways to revitalize Somali unity and to reconcile and heal the people can be considered. This process should be gradual and well thought-out learning from and avoiding the pit-falls of the past. Kowneyn MMA, Hadrawi views himself as someone who belongs to all Somalis and that is ok and in fact admirable. However, he clearly stated that he respects the right of the people of Somaliland to determine their fate. He also thinks if and when Somalis unite it should not be based on shallow emotionalism but sound islamic principals. Kowneyn

For the record, Hadraawi supports the unity of Somalis, he does not support the old ill-fated union which he helped bring down and he certainly is not against the independence of Somaliland. Like Hadraawi I support independent Somaliland and Unity of Somalis at same time. Kowneyn

Noble: Its hard to argue with what u just said; moreover, I actually sincerely sympathize with the point of view u have expressed. However, it takes two tango. So lets hope Somalis of Somaliland and Somalia agree to an amicable divorce and without airing their dirty laundry. Kowneyn

I second northerners motion> Neither Somaliland nor Somalia will save you from ALLAH. SO LETS SPEND OUR TIME WISELY. KOWNEYN

Liqaye: What she said were facts, good sound bytes that did the job, they were not ridiculous. Ridiculous is to expect Somaliland will just give up and join Somalia. We are here for the long haul and determined to succeed, the rest is up to ALLAH. Kowneyn

Sayfullaah: Muslims will eventually come full circle to Ali karamallah wajhu and his progeny cs, by way of the last Imam. Kowneyn

Liqaye: She is trying to define Somaliland and differentiate it from Somalia to a foreign audience. The only thing that this audience knows about Somalis is starvation and anarchy, others may only remember american corpses being dragged in the streets of muqdisho. Considering the challenge she faced, I give the lady credit for knowing exactly the things to say however ridiculous it may seem to some. Kowneyn

Sayfullaah: Its unfortunate that many muslims don't realize that the sons of fatima bint rasuul scws are part of the diin. This house being the house ALLAH chose over all others and no salaat is complete unless blessings are sent on them. Kowneyn

Remember the incident where isrealis were dancing and celebrating at a wedding reception when all of a sudden the floor under them gave-way. This poll means to Isreal, exactly what the crumbling floor meant to those jubilant folks at the wedding. And I will let you figure out what I mean by that Kowneyn

The lady is just doing her job. I just wish everyone in Rayaale's administration took their job as seriously as she does. There is nothing more ridiculous than the anti-Somaliland stance that those who were most offended by her comments take daily. Kowneyn

Hablayahow hadma guursandoontaan?

I was really pleased to read this article. I agree some of his statements about some aspects of the sharia is problematic. Tasawwuf and Sharia are inextricably joined and its incompetent on muslims to sincerely put both into practice. However, the main theme of the article was right on the mark: That Wahhabism is a scourge and a cancer within the ummah Kowneyn

I was really pleased to read this article. I agree some of his statements about some aspects of the sharia is problematic. Tasawwuf and Sharia are inextricably joined and its incompetent on muslims to sincerely put both into practice. However, the main theme of the article was right on the mark: That Wahhabism is a scourge and a cancer within the ummah Kowneyn

LOL The minister was definitely one of the highlights of this war. He beat the western media at its own game lol Kowneyn

Mr Administrator: Name names so we know who is breaking the rules. ****** is not a clan but a depraved mindset that can be found across the clan spectrum. The word is similar in meaning to fascist. Now regarding SNM and crimes, the SNM did not commit crimes against humanity by policy. If that was its intention it would have killed the 10's of thousands of Somali soldiers that surrendered to them or were captured as prisoners. Atleast, 8,000 of the great hawye clan were handed over to Aidid and the USC which absorbed them into its ranks, a significant bolster of the USC ranks. These acts of prison transfers were recorded in western newspapers. Secondly, the true intent and nature of SNM is attested to by their action on May 31 1991, the SNM instead of engaging in revenge for the oppression and massacres of the population it represented called on all the communities of Somaliland to participate in a reconcialation conference. General amnesty was declared for all the members of the communities represented and a new chapter opened. Subsequently, the SNM gave away to civilian rule and the result is today's Somaliland. The crimes against the progeny of sheikh Isxaaq rc can be denied by the malicious and ill informed but the facts wont go away. These crimes will continue to haunt Somalis at every turn until the root causes that led to such tragedy is wiped out from the hearts of the Somali nation forever. As for Somaliland ALLAH is with us today as HE was with us in our darkest hour. GUUL iyo GOBANIMO Somaliland Allow wa mahaddaa Kowneyn