Asalaamu Aleikum wr wb Thanks aqyaarta nuune, qac qac, grab tuujiye & lucky star garab tuujiye magacu waa buubto not boobto bisinka maxaan boobi? Originally posted by Politically-Inclined: Buubto thanks sweetie but you might want to look into feminism; its not about having men and women having different organs and it doesn talk about Gods creativity at all. its more along the lines of getting Equal paying job; anti voilence etc. As you know Islam was/Is the first religion to give about freedom of women ; these people didnt reach our stage yet they are just trying to get the freedom muslim women are supposed to enjoy. Sis you right they have all those things you mentioned. But don't forget t Feminism is an association who specialises in persuading people, they do have an aspect which attracts people so they can persuade them. In today’s society everything women do is based on feminism & their rights. They saying to women you have right to do whatever u want & u intituled to compete with men. For example in fifties & even sixties women behaved certain way. If a woman becomes striper, model, actress & etc people used to see it as a bad thing. But now it become modern & feminism because is free to do whatever she wants & society won’t disown her. Today’s society you can’t tell the difference between a prostitute and an innocent young girl because of dress code. Not did they only told them to wear whatever they want, they even taught them how to run their own house. In western countries in fifties and sixties women preferred to stay home so they can raise their kids but not to undergrade them. Nowadays a house wife is bad thing because she is seen as illiberal & uneducated. She is taught to abandon her kids and work because it is her rights. (subhana laah isn’t her right to raise her kids). Feminism reached an stage to even use women’s body to sell products. They’re on the street walls, TV, newspapers & etc. what got to do a product and a women’s body, what sort of rights is that? Based on facts feminism have done nothing for women other than, disrespect them, degrade them & destroy her dignity and pride. so sister I don't thing they can even come an inch close to the freedom Islam gives to women.

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb This faminist thing is nonsense whoever has a well functionalble brain can workout that man and women aren’t equal in physical terms. There are things that men can do but women can’t even hadii aad indhaha dhiig ka keento simply Allah did not creat them that way. Allah s.w.c knows best then us so it should be left that way full stop. According to the scientific reaserch it was concluded that men and women can never be equal just like Allah told us. But that doesn’t mean women are lower then the man, absolutly not. These galos are fighting againist Allah’s will, trying desperatly to make them equal when they can’t. Ibliis is doing his part (Allahuma najeenaa). Allah said in the qur’an [004:119] "I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and to deface the (fair) nature created by God." Whoever, forsaking God, takes satan for a friend, hath of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest. [004:120] Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.

Dat_Boi_Gotti Cajiib walaahi, but the funny thing is u exposed ur self. Look bro / sis if u use the net for shukaansi then that is u but keep in mind not all the people are the same. Besides Somalis say “miro faraqaaqa ku jiro kuwo geedka saran looma daadsho†I wouldn’t think married people would prefer a keyboard over their honey. Anyway the internet is not only about chat & discussion rooms. Always people get threatened by new things because of their insecurities, which lets their imaginations go wild, when things aren’t.

Shyma, silent-sistah & lazy girl I know where you guys coming from but keep in mind this method is still used now days not only in our prance times, this ideology still exists among our sisters believe it or not brothers do succeed after pushing so many times. The mistake we make so many times is, the fact we allow them to stay as friend rather than hitting them the truth.

Nice topic farax says to xalimmo ' waxaan rabaaa in aynu is barano, waan ka helay (farah says lets get to know eachother, im feeling u) halimo says haye walaalo, lakiin walaaltinimo, iyo saxiibtinimo aynu isku barano (hailmo says 'ok bruv, but on the brotherly and friendship level aight!') this means, she dont see u in that way, she aint feeling u, but she dont wanna hurt your feelings and tell u str8-up, if u opt to agree to her terms,,,, please dont think she will grow to love u, with time , this is a msitake i see brothers making over and over again! [/QB] silent-sistah I disagree with ya on this actually we make this mistake over and over again. The sister opened the door for the brother if she insisted to get to know him as brother & friend which indicates “I am feeling ya too†but in a serbeeb way. She trying to play hard to get (typical somali girl), the brothers understand that & that is why u see them keep coming back.

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb I agree with the majoraty this website is somaliaonline, if they can't read and write somali is their problem nothing to whinge about. xashaa kulilaah xaraan kuuma xalaashowdo. gaalada aan afkeena aqoon hadii ey aqrinkaraan eyna qori karaan sida loogu dhawaaqo maxaa u diiday ay maryoleey / aw maryoloow in ey aqriyaan eena qoraan?

This issue keeps coming back, I don’t see anything wrong with it infact it only sums up the state of our country and how narrow minded our people are. Somalilanders aren’t the only one who is claiming they are a country of their own. There is other regions that want or are in the process of forming their own little country. This issue has got nothing to do with what region is more civilised then the other more god-fearing / have taqwa then the other & etc. This issue is all based on hatred & selfishness. We are corrupted because of tribalism. Cajiib I got a question since this whole issue is about qabyaalad. Hypothetically speaking let’s say each region forms their own country. And a conflict occurs within their own region (inner sub-clans) what they going to do? How they going to solve it? Or will they divide their own little country into tens of small towns giving each sub- clan their own town? Qabiil qabiil ka fiican majiro Laf laf ka fiican majiro Gidigood waa isku wadahal Qori iyo qiiqiisa lagu riday fuusto dhaxda ka duleesho = holac aan raad laheen.

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb Xoogsade Arinta ma’aha hadii aan aniga shaqsiyan sameen lahaa iyo inkale, qofwaliba dooq ayuu leeyahay. waxaa un sheegay hadii ay gabari qabsato dhibatadaas sida hoboon ey ugu dabaalan laheed. Ma’aha in faraanti & jilbo jabsi lagalo. Khadiijo (radiyalaahu canhaaba) wey sameesay lakinse dariikhii habonaa ayee martay.

Asalaamu Aleikum wr wb You guys are mixing up the western culture and Somali / Islamic culture. What is the knee and ring thing that u r obsessed with. Guur waa guur, do u think a diamond ring will prove how much he loves u? If you do damik khafiif walaahi, (you r brain washed). Money and material don’t buy true love. The other thing, every relationship the girl is the main controller, that relationship will lead to whatever u want, weather is wasting time on dating or marriage. Don’t say I am waiting him to propose, when truelly u r the one who is giving him wrong signalls. If you set your grounds striaght right from the start, only a serious man who want marriage will stick around. If it is on going relationship Forget about who proposes who, first of all you should not be talking to a man if he doesn’t want marriage from you that is the bottom line. If you guys are talking then you should inform him that u want marriage not casual dating. If u don’t know the man personally If you don’t have open communication with the man, and you r interested in him, ouch then that is what I call a gutsy satiation. In that case u could either drop a hint to his close female relatives or write a letter to him. (I wouldn't do)

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb checkmate first of all allow me to correct ya, i am a sis not bro. thought my name stated my gender clearly. but i think he is very lucky cuz in the day of judgement he is going to use those men as means of transpotation n he will be goin ta heaven n they will enjoy the kool breeze of hell Subhaana laah I think u r wrong is not up to us to judge. But what I want to tell u is, whether u r killed wrongfully or not does not determine whether u go to jannah or paradise. Your deeds are the only thing that will determine whether u owned either jannah or hell. Our religion teaches us whoever fully believes “laa ilaha ila laah muxamadan rasuulu laah” & does not associate Allah with anybody, Will enter jannah. & that is the difference b/w the muslims & gaalos. My point is a man who does not believe in Allah, how can u say he will enter jannah?

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb Yes it is wrong to kill non-military man in an awful way. Let’s not forget it is a war, during a war a lot of nasty things happen reflecting the emotions the opposition r going through. During any war usually innocent people r targeted, that is why we seeing innocent Iraqi are being tortured & killed. Innocent American technical worker pied the price. Yes according to Islam is wrong no doubt. Let’s not forget muslims r human beings too sometimes anger could over power u, and that is what happened. P.s one american man has been headed, u all discussing it in 3 pages how wrong & awful thing it is. When the iraqis were being killed, turtured & humilated I did not see many participates stating their symphathy, that topic only had less than 10 replays :mad: . & this one has 35 replays. Walaahi cajiib waaye . Yabayee welfare maa dadka ka kheylisiinoyo, waxaan gaal khalad loo dilay kabadanee.

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb Hasna Sis first of all I am a sis not a bro. secondly as much as I think is pointless to go to protesting just to beg our enemies to sort out our issues. I can’t go simply I am the other side of the world. Tell me, if we r muslims for how long we protested to say our opinion whether it was the war in Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya & etc. did anyone responded to us? No simply u can’t depend on ur enemy, if u want justice u have to fight for ur rights.

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb Walaahi as much as it hurts us to hear and see these pictures, we knew one way or the other this was happening, but choice not to think about it. Now that is out of the open, it tears me inside as a Muslim to witness my fellow Muslims suffering by the hands of the gaalo in their own-land. The whole world saw it and agrees with us that it is Inhuman, disrespectful and zero tolerant behaviour. As much as they agree with us, it doesn’t effect them nor hurt them at all, as much as it is to Muslims. Is all about lip service, sweat talking to persuade the world. I believe they r proud of it & won’t stop this kind behaviour as long as they r in Iraq. Bottom line is yes it breaks our heart to see it and hear it, but r our muslim governors doing anything about it? The answer is no, as long as we r actionless & powerless, we will be humiliated like this. Oh have anyone thought what they did to the Iraqis they did it to the afghans as well :mad: !think about it!. P.s Even if we protest they won’t do anything about it until us muslims do something about it. Allah said:- “Allah does not change the lot of nation unless they have (tried) to change it themselves” (13:11). We need to correct our mistakes & go back to our deen In order to overcome this problem. In that way we will succeed.

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb I am noticing a lot of hidden nomads that r actually from oz. no need repetition, my fellow nomads said it all. I have lived here nearly a decade I haven’t seen any racism towards me except two incident shortly after September 11. Australia is multicultural country especially Melbourne (where most Somalis live), not to mention the Muslim community here is highly populated. (mansha Allah) Employment, as long as u ambitious, determent, committed & open minded u will get a job. U chance of getting a job is very high if u r under 45 years. Barwaaqo Sweetie Australian outback is the territory of the indigenous people, until this time whites have given up to leave there (except a few, most of them go for a holiday. Only aboriginals can survive there. so as long as u prepared to deal with Australian wild animals, very hot wether & most of all a wild aboriginals (the most difficult human beings to deal with). I am happy to wlc u in the country. Darman R u sure ur sister is in sydney not in outback? :confused: yes there is small number of somalis in sydney, most of them r very occupied with their daily life. not like melbournians who r very socialable, but still i finded very hard to believe she hasn't seen any somalis in 8 month :eek: .

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb To me, I definitely think we were better off back home. wax noo siyaaday maleh aan ka aheen dhib & khaxar. We r lost between our religion, culture and western culture, a lot of us can’t separate the two. Walaahi one thing that I really wonder is, is it me or people have no manners. Horta xishood kii ahaa waa laga tagay walaahi, xishoodkii ayaa lagu diimaa (subhaana laah). most of the people have no xishood whatsoever from the elders to the kids. Alhamdulilah there is a lot of us who survived but our youth r defiantly getting caught up in the west. We r exposed to things that we had no idea back home, our way of thinking, priorities and values has been effected if not destroyed. The divorce rate is gone high, kids can’t be controlled, people have changed, no respect to prance, wife, husband & etc. the list goes on. Walaahi I am afraid we will end up like the Arabs & Turkish who have lost their culture & religion, after been in the west for so long. The answer is there is no place like home.

Honey-D Thanks sis, I am glad u like it. kynda Jazaaka laah kheyr p.s where did u get all this intresting articles from? Modesty macaanto u doing really well and may Allah increase ur knowledge (Amin). our sisters all they trying to say is, there is big difference when u listen qur’aan and understand it at the same time, rather than looking up the translation. I don’t know how to explain it, but the sense of joy & fear of Allah u feel is over whelming. U just want to listen more, just because u understand it. No matter how professionally they translate it into any other language nothing beats the original (Arabic)

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb Kynda Thanks sis for shearing with us this inspiring dialog. It really makes the human beings think. OG_girl U remind me when the non-believes ask me about Jesus as muslim point view. I ask them isn’t Jesus a human being just like u they say yes yet they claim he is their lord or some will say the son of god (istaaqfuru laah). one man couldn’t give me any logic answer, all he could come up was. As a believer I am not allowed to question about my religion, my duty is just to believe it. I said why He said only the ministers can explain I said, how can u believe in something that u don’t understand He said that is the part of the religion I said how come ur lord is a man like u, no difference whatsoever He said he is the son of god I laughed One minute he says Jesus is god and next minute he says Jesus is the son of god Subhana laah, I said ok do u believe Adam He said yes I said Adam was the first human being created right He said yes I said did he had prance He said no I said didn’t god create Adam He said yes I said god created Jesus too without father just like Adam right He couldn’t give me any logic reason he just dropped the conversation and said I can’t explain. Subhaana laah. ilahayow maskaxda hanaga qaadin (Amin yaa rab).

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb Lucky & caramel_kisses sisters I will try to summaries the article for u and the others. But I must admit it was written beautifully which is very hard to translate it in any other language. The article basically talks about the beauty of the women and how Islam protects women’s purity & dignity, not to isolate them in big clothes as non-believes would say. Women love beauty that is their nature, Allah created them that way. Allah loves his slaves to make them selves beautiful, but in a legal way & Men love women, Allah created them that way. To prevent evil actions Allah ordered women to cover themselves, except from her husband, son, brother & uncle. The hijab makes for greater purity for the hearts of believing men and women because it screens against the desire of the heart. Without the hijab, the heart may or may not desire. That is why the heart is more pure when the sight is blocked (by hijab) and thus the prevention of fitna (evil actions is very much manifested. The hijab cuts off the ill thoughts and the greed of the sick hearts. It talks about how we as females should carry ourselves, the bellow sentence summaries the whole point:- :" لا توجد إمرأة جميلة وأخرى غير جميلة، ولكن توجد امرأة جميلة وأخرى لا تعرف كيف تُبرز جمالها “There is no woman beautiful then the other, but there is a woman who knows how to represent / reveal her beauty when the other doesn’t” The rest of the article talked about how we could increase our patients, faith & fear of Allah, in-order to become a righteous woman. Hope that helped.

Asalaamu Aleikum wr wb Kynda Good to see a fellow melbournian too, although not many of us around. P.s wlc to the side hope u enjoy it.

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb Sister keynda thanks for shearing this beautiful article with us. :" لا توجد إمرأة جميلة وأخرى غير جميلة، ولكن توجد امرأة جميلة وأخرى لا تعرف كيف تُبرز جمالها Absolutely right couldn’t agree more. Subhana laah is sad that we don’t realise the gift that Allah gave us. Human beings carry beauty both inside and the outside, if the heart is clean your face glows. But if the heart is infected, the face is covered with darkness. For example:- look so called Hollywood stars no matter how much money they have they can’t found neither happiness & beauty. Instead they pay fortune to make themselves beautiful, yet can’t succeed ending up looking like plastic subhana laah. الدعاء بدعاء النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم: " اللهم اجعل لي نوراً في قلبي ونوراً في قبري، ونوراً في سمعي،ونوراً في بصري،ونوراً في شعري،ونوراً في بَشَري،ونوراً في لحمي ونوراً في دمي ،ونوراً في عظامي،ونوراً في وجهي،ونوراً بين يدَيَّ ونوراً من خلفي،ونوراً عن يميني ونوراً عن شِمالي،ونوراً من فوقي، ونوراً من تحتي،اللهم اعطني نوراً و زِِدني نوراً " Absoluty beautiful ducaa Allahuma taqabal minaa wa binal muslimiin jamiican yaa rab.

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb This is yet another proof that girls will defiantly over look polygamy, age gap, culture difference and many other things if you have enough money!!! Darman in this case u wrong, She is rich & royal too. How will that make her gold digger? I reckong she is just gone for someone who is in her level. “shibirba shibirtiisa ayuu la duula”. About the age gap Arabs are not fussy about age difference.

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb I agree with Ms london & Rahima. Yes I believe Iraqis are in jihad simple fact that they are been ruled in their own land. Not to mention the fact that Americans are destroying them even in the house of Allah (mosque / masjid). I pray to Allah that the galos will pay what they did to Iraqis. May Allah bless Iraqi people in this difficult time. Alhamdulilah suni’s & shias united it really shows how strong the Iraqi Muslims r. Takbiir Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar

Asalaamu Aleikum WR WB In this case I think the father over handled the satiation. Yes it ended happily but he should have asked her approval rather than doing behind her back. As we know the girls approval is important when doing meher. Prance should nogatioate with their daughter / son rather than forcing them. I really do think arranged marriage could be used as positive thing. I do believe most of the times our prance know what is right for us, nothing wrong if they suggest to give a chance to know a brother / sister they nominate for you, without any force, expectation & commitment whatsoever. (as long as their aim is not wealth, tribe & etc) but if their aim is to find u someone who fears Allah, prays, with good personality & ambitious. Why refuse it after all u never know if he/she is ur soul mate. It all depends how the prance handle the satiation, some use force and some do communicate with their kids & understand their perspective. As long as there is communication, close relationship, understanding & trust between the prance and their son / daughter nothing will go wrong. When we look the time of the sahaba’s the father used to look for his daughter a good husband, with her consent after the bride & the groom understand each other they used to get married. Is amazing how in those days girls never objected their father, not because they had no say, but because they had trust in their father & very close relationship. Now days if our father even nominates a bachelor for us, without we even consider the satiation we reject straight away, saying he doesn’t know my type. Subxana laah walaahi is heartbreaking that we r deserved by this so called modern life, we neglected the basic teaching of islam. • A good relationship between the prance & their kids • Islamic values • Biri walideen / ixtiraam waalid • Fear Allah Because we lack the above values that is why our divorce rate is high, almost the same as the west. If we considered arranged marriage for the right reasons & based marriage about religion, I think our divorce rate would have being half or less of what it is right now.

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb Walaahi waa nasiib daro & calool xanuun xaalada ay ku sugan yihiin dadkeena. For god seek the sister asked a simple question that has no realation whatsoever to triblism. Why bite off her head, like our ppl say “maxaa dhariga kuleel ka keena”. Is obvious truth hurts, but why deny it & revrase her words. Is trully heartbreaking that we can even discuss an issue that relate to tribe. Qabiil ayaa diin laga dhigtay ma istiri. Walaahi I had hope at least our generation as (youth of somali as general whether is north, west, south and east) to change our current satiation. But sadly most of us fellowed our prance footsetps. is time we stop dewelling about the past & look forward to the future. Most of our relatives if not immidate family were the victam of the on going civil war, we all experienced it. Is time we stop like acting only one group were effected. If we somalis for once in our life time why can’t we put into practice what Allah is ordering us to do. Walaahi taas ayee nasteexo noogu jirtaa. “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (He Who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).” Surah Alhujaraat. About passport issue, in the eyes of the rest of the world we r nothing. A lot of countries don’t regognise our blue passport let alone any other passport. I believe that sums up the state we r in.

Asalaamu Aleikum Wr Wb would u marry a non somali? The answer is no simply miro faraqaaga kujiro miyaad u daadin kuwo geed ka lusha? Of course no, bololaa or not ilaah ayaa og. So why gamble with ur entire life? I have nothing against inter-rational marriages, if ur excuse is they ugly or can’t get a long with them. Have u ever thought maybe u have a problem & need to sort it out, instead of generalising and dissing all Somali men? don’t run away ur own problems be brave enough and face it. The way I see it is, if u can’t fit in ur own society how can u fit a foreigner one? walaahi is heart breaking to see a lost kids with gaalo relatives, what u going to tell Allah about their aqiidah the day of judgment? Walaahi I am not kidding our brothers r the best if u compare other races, not long a go a sister was telling me her Arab friend were complaining about their men and how they mistreat women. If u heard it u would have being proud to be Somali. For example pay close attention to any Arab world and their behaviors to words women. And tell me if that is the kind society u want to be in. I am not talking about religion aspects I am referring their cultures. So brothers and sisters be proud what u have.