Ganacsiga waddanka marna uma fariisan ammaan xumo. Waxa bannaan in lagu doodo dowladdu in ay xannibaysay horumarka ganacsiga waddanka. Xorriyad ballaaran oo ay helaan ganacsatadu waa sida keliya ee uu waddanku horumar fiican ku gaari karo.

Anyone who like to know the truth about our tribal systems I will recommend reading the book "Somalia: Nation in Search of a State" by Professor Said Samatar. In one of the chapters, the book argues that the Somali tribal forefathers (but any qabiil name here) are myth. By the way, the famous CIA country profile available on the net is based on this book for their somali sections. Many parts of the book is controversial. If you have an open mind, this book may change your perceptions.

I would say to guys here: get involved in developping your country. Plan to go back to Somalia. In good old days, folks who left for abroad would come back with good money, education, and plenty of skills. Loose the snow, the credit cards, and loan collectors and come home. Should you go back, be ready two answer yes to one of these questions: "Hanti ma soo shaqaysatay?" or "Wax ma soo baratay?" Otherwise you are a looser to us. Sorry I didn't read the whole thread od discussion; just my two scents.

Ardaagan oo waxa iigu dambeeyey afsoomaaliga laga dacwoodo... Maasha Allah, sow tan gole dhan loo sameeyey Qoob baa igu taagan oo fadhi iima yaallee, akhyaarey waa la idin salaamay.

Thanks you guys for the welcome. I hope you be as generous with money too Og_girl, sis you are allready out Asraa, I thought my offer was very sweet. Imagine all the shopping and different eatery to discover and fun. Position is taken; you weren't fast enough to grap. Hello Nafisa, long time no see huh? I am just catching up all that I missed. It seems nothing has been changed since last time I was here. How do say this There is not that many adult conversation going on here. I guess "dadka laga yaabay" put a little colour to the place. In the end it is all good Stpaulchick, walaal thanks for welcome. I left as fairly new, just in time to earn my title Illmatic... Geelii oo dhan reerkiinnaa dhacay!

MMA, nice to see you again man! Sxb sawirradaadii lamaba arko Shineemo Shuun inaan arko waaban rabay say ku dambaysay. Shuut aan ku moodi jiray mo'agtahay

Thanks Opinionated. Barwaaqo, waa Ilaahay mahaddii. Wax Caasho iyo Cabdi ahba kaama dambayn Kolley idinku xero ayuun baad ku oodan tihiine, anigu dee waligayba waxaan ahaa FREE SPIRIT Xafsaay, heedhe. Show afsoomaaliga ma taqaan Waxaagu digniin ka wayne, walaal farta waaweyn wax iigu dhig. SOL show waanadu waa iska taaltaal! Nuune, Nuune! Gamaca da'igana in lagaa labeddo yaawe. How about wa'oowe Dance ku lahaa. Yaa kula ciyaaraaya adiga, Ellein Bennet from Sienfield? Darbaa ka dhacday ma istiri! Ilhaam, how are you yourself? You are very kind as allways. Asraa, you are tired and bored and at work? You should join us. We will make you work 60 hr/week non stop and you wouldn't even notice the time. We are close to a mall and movie theatre. Og_girl is Og_sister huh? How interesting :cool: No wonder the guy took up painting. Sister you came like yesterday and you allready posted 500+. Mizz-Unique, when I see you around with that name you used to make me blush Nice going everyone. It is allways great to see you all again. Thanks for the really warm welcome

Thanks Kaafi. If I am not mistaken that dancing baby had a different handle That much I can remember. Asraa, lol.. where have you seen a sis looking like this ==> I remember while back oldtimers used to complain when new guy posts something they might have discussed earlier. I guess newbies rule now! Way to go I guess Nuune finally found avatar he is comfortable no more changing things around. Og_Moti is still putting out those movies. That is cool bro. I didn't know there was Mss Moti too. Congratulations. And who else got hitched. Aaway akhyaartii carriga? Hablihii waxaan u maleeyey magaca diricii oo kaley ka dhigeen. Maalinba mid baa lala soo shir tagaa Soo barya

Hi all! After being away sometime SOL seems very different. Somehow, I can't figure out the crowd who is who! Must be the long trip. To everybody, I just want to say Salaan Macaan!

I have read the work of Dr Mohamed Gandi (profesor at University of France and anthropologist) and Dr Said Samatar (another Professor of history) on the subject of Somali tribes and they both agree that these forefathers never existed in the first place! They are myth, made up names, and should you be interested academically try reading them. I am sure you might be able to find their works at any good university library. In his latest novel, Secrets, Nuruddin Farah goes even further by disqualifying the 'abtirsiimo" alltogether saying that you are not sure 100% if your father is your real father thus the adage "hooyadaa la isku hubaa" I avoided joining this thread for I didn't wanted to upset nomads who take their tribal identity seriously. I guess you found a loophole Just don't try to argue academically about the existance of this mythical people. I just can't watch that :eek:

Originally posted by Nubian-Queen: "IF LOVING IS WRONG (I DONT WANNA BE RIGHT) from Al green There is a verse that goes like this Your friends tell you there's no future in loving a married man If I can't see you when I want to I'll see you when I can If loving you is wrong I don't wanna be right Auch! You can't be serious :eek: This is old school, and I hope you misunderstood the question.

Sophist ...Are you trying to portray socialists as greedy, ambitious, and wealthy? This is unconventional. try to make your writing more conventional btw. Continue please

Originally posted by Aaliyah#10: Maybe this is our chance to proof to yall brotherz that we ARE SOMETHING and we can do other things then COOK and CLEAN ... of course kick yall aZZ'z too... Aaliyah and Hodan... I like your spirit and competitiveness. But aren't you girls coming out here saying we kick your azzes! Are you talking soccer or "Gariir"? Cheers!

Darman... Don't you worry that little Xalimo will ultimately find the strength to pick up the pieces and move on. In return she will blame all Faaraxs for what you did, and will make another guy pay for it. The buck doesn't stop there; yet another Xaliimo in here will find you so sensitive, so sweet and fall for your teary eyes! And once you dump her she will continue the cycle by taking revenge on all the guys she will meet in the future. These are the solutions, make your pick 1. We should put you in a solitary confinement for good and throw out the keys; Or Four or five Nomads will track you down and beat the crap out of you. Just to make you pay. 2. You go back to that young lady and apologize to her to avert such an outcome. This is not about you or her anymore. You do it for us (The Faaraxs). Chances are this young lady will play us too or god forbid cut us off. Good luck

Taqwa ... I been asking where is the men's corner when I registered here. Great initiative and topic. I would like to ask you... what is your qualifications on the subject of Islam? Issues regarding men? Somali culture? Moderating a forum?

Hambalyo... Mr and Mrs LSK ... have many many Ilmo Libaax San Kataabte

A wedding that brought all these nomads together... hmmm ... Some Nomads may be eloping Plot thickens... Anyways congratulations to the couple... Nice story Sophist... continue guys :cool:

Lakkad ... Sxb your point is taken. Don't be stranger in your own house :: Boycott: That was some fight man Kab iyo baasuuko aa lagugu gamaa! dadkaan ma yareystaane! Sxb your talent is beyond compare. Keep up the good work. Barwaaqo ... You don't know but "being big baby" waa la ii qariyaa MMA, Lagend, Cuties, Hibo ... My hat is off for you ... It is 2003. Let us liven up the place :cool:

Even though we may never know scientifically the causes of our high divorces in diaspora, after thinking over the issue I might be able to shed some light to this matter and bring something close to formal statistic. At one time I was living in TO as single guy with big apartment, I accomodated 15 guys who were having merital problems over the span of 7 - 8 yrs of years. Here is trend I found: 15 of them did not pray salat. The lack of "salat" in the family plays major role in the high rate of divorces. This is not an opinion for me, it is a fact: I do not know a single devorced person who prayed salat while married. ODD ... sister, I am saddened to hear your story. I hope you want to remain a good muslim. We do not have councillors in our society but you might need to educate yourself about the responsibilities of being a wife before making a dicision you might regret. If reading is bothersome, you can find lectures by well known sheiks at many of the somali stores. There is a good reason why another name of marriege is "settling down". So long...

"Old Nomads" ... this is unfair! I hope I don't graw up to be like you some day! You can not close topics just because you discussed them a year ago. Come on now! I will give you 10 reasons. Please try to look things from our prespective... (1) people and their views change after some time. Chances are you are not with the same person you were with a year ago; chances are you don't wear the same clothes from year ago; chances are you will not vote for the same politician; chances are you have matured mentally and emotionally. (2) The same issues can have different perspective and takes. New nomads may be able to shed some light on that same topic. (3) As Somalis the same issues affect us anywhere in the world. We may have the same concerns on our social, economic, politics status. (4) We should have the right to discuss them in a different format. (5) Issues are not intellectual property; people discuss weather on a daily bases. (6) We joined this forum for our enjoyment, and searching old archives if a topic is been mentioned in a post is laborious. (7) The response of some topics are more than three pages and a person might not want to hear all those single views. I found your postings similar to surveys ... that means there were no debates for most of the parts. (8) Topics need to be revisited sometime. Last year this and that was hot ... what is in/what is out this year. (9) I mostly read latest posts and respond to them. I may not even look at the date it was posted originally, and I guess many might do the same thing (10) All nomads whose ID numbers are under 1000 need to lighten up and mingle with us. You complain like old people and acting if we are trespassing your territories. Lakkad ... I doubted that the cat is with you on this one I hope you and your friends will take this as a constructive criticism. Your Excellency! It is been the funniest moment for me ... Which side of yours do you really like? The grumpy old man who reminds people that mean principle in high school or that young fella who skates to school and plays Nintendo? STHLM_Lady ... The guy gave Oscar performance in both parts. Which one do you like Dr Evil or Austin? MMA ... Sxb I thought I was home. Now who are you calling "guest"? Ilhaam ... You are very sweet sister. :cool: So long everyone... PS. Unless I am bored somewhere with net access I will see you (Insha Allah) on 2003 and until then ... Happy New Year!!! to all that read this walls

Lakkad ... sxb maxaa naqaska la isugu xiraa? what good is your welcome when you do that? Waa idiin jeedaa "old nomads" idinka lee isu camiraaya. Maybe it is time oo la idin geyn lahaa "the Old house"... you know the nursary where you can talk about old times SOL President ... Your excelency your tag number is 1213. Aren't you newbie yourself? But seriously... I don't know how it happened I noticed that the way you guys approach topics is "Oprah Winfray" style, so soft, so delicate I can imagine the virtual group hug. Why is that? Can't old-timers debate issues in civil manner without acting like they are in love or something? So long

Users are the make up of any website. Webmasters or site administrators can not be responsible of how their visitors behave. Besides, no one pays these webmasters who has to earn some income or get a life once a while. We are talking unmoderated forums that are open 24 hours a day where Somalis can post freely! It is the visitors, the Somalis, people like me and you who are the tribalists, the fanatics, the gaalo-madow, and what have you. Censoring posts is more than full time job; I am sure after so many years somalinet guys are exhausted because they used to be just as vigilant as the admins of this site. It begs the question who is stopping those people who are disrupting the other forums from coming here and doing the same thing? Once this site becomes big enough and popular enough it will be subjected to the same treatment of somalinet for couple of reasons: 1. Our Somali Webmasters hate each other and many times it is them who wage deliberate attacks on each other’s website. They pollute, spam, smear, even DOS each other’s forums and chat rooms for their quest of more people to their site. When a site is offline the other webmasters will be laughing and loving every minute of it. 2. As Somali net-users we are bunch of ungrateful people who will never acknowledge what it takes to run a site like Somaliaonline or somalinet. We only know how to complain, condemn and demand the best from people who are donating their time and money to give us a medium of communication. 3. Kutaab-gaablow ayaa carrada dhan nagu bi’iyey! Hadddaad aragto gaal iyo wax diinta caynaaya, waxay isku dheggan yihiin waa kitaab-gaablow seefla bood ah. Waxaad u malaynaysaa birlab oo kale siday isu soo doonanaayaan. War waa isugu baxdaa si kale kuma garatide! I am really disappointed with our web community to the point I stopped contributing years ago. I belong to the usenet group, and we lost our beloved forum to wadaad vs gaal garbage. I can see the same trend starting again in here and somalinet, and when the crap hit the fan we will be the typical nomads in search for another alternative. So long

Originally posted by SomaliaOnline-President: But how would you know if a man has been sleeping around? What do they call a man who sleeps around? Nabadeey!

Soo dhowow ...

Hanna… what you will find in your field is that you have to be learning all the time on the job and if you do not keep your skills up to date you will never move up in a company. You will have to expect that technology jobs are mostly on short term bases which means you will change jobs every year or two. Take entry level position, look for coop programs, or anything that can get your foot in the door. Yacquub ... I think you shouldn't be concerned yourself with the achievements of others. Your most important achievement will be your degree. Well, I will share with you guys couple of tips I learned by experience. Those I didn't learn from books or people... 1. the best time to look for a work is the beginning of a new year. Departments get their budgets; companies introduce new lines of products; people move to other positions; some even quit due to new year resolution or pursue other opportunities. Because of these reasons there are lots of new positions companies want to fill in January and February. 2. The worst time to look for a work is the end of the year. The job market is so tight employers will refuse to give people overtime. It has to do with finances and year end reports, employees bonuses, holidays etc. Don’t ever quit on September. 3. If you leave a company make sure to ask for reference letters. This is extremely important if you are relocating because of work. 4. Tailor resumes and cover letters to each position you apply and be careful about how you present yourself. In Canada you could be over qualified and still get hired for a position, while the Americans will reject you even if you are willing to take a lower pay. Once I lost interview for a high paying job for being over qualified. For that pay I could sweep the floor and she said "Oh you will get bored!" 5. Buy a good job hunting book. I recommend the “Drop Dead …” series. You can find a lot of great tips. 6. Dress conservatively and start using proper English. Ebonics and those trendy clothes from GAP or Banana Republic are useless in the job market. 7. Be confident. 8. Be persistence and call HR often. You may hate being rejected, but you have to take a deep breath and keep calling and applying. 9. Use the library. There are many reference books there and free internet. 10. Network. Tell everyone you know that you are looking for a work. Collect as much contacts as you can in your field and use them to get a job. The bottom line of getting a job is knowing what you can do for an employer rather than your need for employment. I hope this helped.