Xoogsade You sound like a desperate man saxiib. This is a battle between folks who want to keep the looted houses and a Internationally recognized government. If you want to squirt and cry all about bililiqo and squatters so be it. Tigreey this Tigreey that. Weren't the folks who were fighting in Xamar in love with Tigreys and they want those 'other' folks from Puntland out? Cut me the bullcrap saxiib.

When people resonate towards insults you know where there mind is at. Do you see Gen Duke in your cereal every morning?

shabelle media and wagaacusub the other two lie cannisters should be decimated with hornafrik.

Propoganda machines need no airwave.

We wait and see what happens.

qaadisiya and kismaayonews said it. Way to go for differing opinions. They are two poles at opposite extremes.

Hooraay to Stephen Harper.

This man doesn't even know there correct clans and he is reliable? Secondly, You can sense a bitter taste in this fellows mouth. He is trying to cause a problem within Somali clans and he ends off his argument with LONG LIVE SOMALILAND? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Very smart fellow.

These people need to realize Yemen is no better then Somalia. There motives are to try to get to the the good parts of the middle east. But they have to realize that your chances of dying are slim but there.

Originally posted by Khalaf: but horta jaylani sxb who u kidding here......werent u da same cat not long ago telling Violet he doesn’t discuss politics with women, then said women are above somali politics (ahh smooth I give u dat)...... let me guess women are above somali politics but not Somaliland politics?

LayZieGirl Yes a woman brought me on to this planet. A woman has fed and clothed me and I am forever grateful. However there are certain positions that should never and never have been held by women. Women cannot lead prayers where men are present. Women have never been prophets (atleast not any that I have heard of). Women were never calipha's or Imam's. There are good examples of were the line is drawn. I am not being chauvanistic. Just being realistic. That's all. Never will there be a Somali woman president. I am speaking reality here. If you wan't me to be a feminist movement marauding fellow I can be. *HOORAAY HOORAAY FOR WOMEN HAVE TAKEN TODAY...WE FIGHT FOR RIGHTS AND WON'T STOP TILL WE HAVE FULFILLED OUR GOD GIVEN PLIGHT* Jaylaani You are speaking of comprehension problem's and yet your grammar and spelling are horrendous. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Geeeeeeez. Continue what you want to believe. American and much of world today have Male leaders. 96% have male leaders. The majority of America are white woman. Yet no woman is elected. Your stance about the majority ruling is flawed. Woman are the majority in many places around the world. However they are rarely elected. Certain positions should never be filled by women. Imam's, presidents of nations etc should never be filled by women. Women are the foundation of society, households, and for every great man there is a great woman. However for every great woman, there lies many great men, women through parental guidance provided by these women. That's how it should stay.

^ The north galkacyoans must die. Allahu akbar.

AUB Throw the madfaac on North Galkacyo I say. Allahu Akbar.

You can't blame Kobe for being Kobe. Especially when your PG is named Smush. LOOOOOOL. The man is averaging 31ppg and 5/5 plus ast and rebs. In about 6 less shots then last season. He is not being selfish, he is doing what it takes to win. He averages 50+ in his last 5. His team wins the last 5. Do you see a correlation here? His team just sucks. What can you do? When Lamar odom and brown are standing around and missing shots and play so passive with that much potential?

^ You obviously can't comprehend anything. Were Caasho and Shariif and Gobaanle handpicked by Ethiopia? You will obviously know this is to the contrary. So go on with your lies sxb.

^ LOOOOL. So Casha Abdalla, Seraar and Shariif Hassan were picked by Meles? Atleast come with something better Jim.

Admit what? That there were people fighting from different clans with the ICU? There were Afghans and Oromo's fighting for the ICU. Why not Abdi Burco or Jamaac Garoowe? This is not the point. There are Muunye Marka's and Guled Guriceel's on the TFG side. Does that prove anything? The upper level of the TFG is encompassing of all Somalis. Leadership. Leadership. Leadership. The upper level of the ICU looked the like Guriceel boys and girls club. Now tell me the pan-somali in this?

Originally posted by Jimcaale: [QB] ^And TFG 4.5 is not clan oriented?? Taako you amuse me walaahi. The difference is that the TFG has 275 parliamentarians, Ministers, ambassadors from all clans. The ICU drew from one clan. It doesn't take Bill Nye the Science guy to see this. Faraax Sometimes it takes vision and understanding to see what many don't see. I knew the fact that druglords turned sheik and nephew of the top leader promoted to Security Cheif wasn't a coincidence and I knew this months before this happened. Foresight saxiib. Foresight.

Geeljire Firstly, the TFG has an army from clan from all over Somalia. Yet some one hinder on the fact of 'puntlanders' everywhere. It does not take a genuis to know that the ICU was a clan movement. It's leadership apparatus were from one clan exclusively. It's most prominent men were from one sub sub clan. What do Indhacadde (a druglord) Hassan Aweys, Ceyroow, etc have in common? Why was Abdiqasim screaming Allahu Akbar? Why did Qanyare, Qeybdiid, Yalaxoow, Dheere etc put up a fight? Why did Goobaanle and Seraar give up their weapons without a fight? Ofcourse there a people who perceived the notion of the ICU being a pan-somali movement. They drew many members from a far and wide. However as days passed by and Indhacadde was not reprimanded but promoted, it became clear to the greater majority of Somalis what the ICU represented and who they were.

^ Don't muddle my name saxiib.

F.brown I believed that the ICU=Clan org all along. Many of it's representatives fought in Raas Kambooni and elsewhere. However you do realize that many of it's fighters are in Xamar today, giving it one last go. The commander of shabaab is still present and he coincidentally represents this clan.

Geel jire 12 You are going off on a tangent. Hundreds of men fighting with who? Remember the ones leading the 'shabaab' in Xamar are the same military commanders. Aden Hashi being the prominent one in the ICU and now whats left of them. The acts carried out are at the command of the ICU. You are making it seem like the ICU was perfect on their watch? Do you remember the senseless slaughtering of 5 men in Bua'ale? Of the djiboutian airline rep in Kismaayo. Prisoners of war killed and a mere civilian. This is under the ICU's watch.

The acts of individuals are not representative of the whole group. Group guilt is not going to fly. The people of Xamar are for the most part like any other Somalis. There are a few sick elements who did this to gain some political light and hope.

^ The wadaads did not capture anything without foreign muscle and foreign weaponry imported straight to ceel macaan. You know this, I know this and Hassan Turki has said this. Regardless, this is not the argument here. The ICU and the hostility coming from the remaining pieces of the ICU have all been from a certain section of a sub clan. They were fighting for the expulsion of all foreign forces whether it be AU troops or Ethiopia. However they would rather have an Ethiopian, instead of, a Plander. This is from the proverbial horses mouth. Makes you wonder, what was so religious about certain causes?

This liam bailey character knows things from one perspective. As horn said, where are the uprisings in Kismaayo or for that matter anywhere save mogadishu? I'll go a little further and say that most of these 'clan' uprisings are concentrated in south Xamar and that the majority of Xamar has a favourable or neutral attitude with the TFG. When statements are coming out and some say we will accept Ethiopia over "Puntlanders", the whole notion of islamic fighting is bull crap.