Sxb. Last week abdullahi yusuf said no to any seccession of any land in Somalia proper. Geedi says the same. The Economist is just flirting with an idea and trying to run with it.

LOOOL at Xiin. You kill me adeer.

Got so excited you had to post it twice huh? LOOOOL. Why does the northern clan enclave of riyaale need Abdullahi Yusuf to recognize them? LOOOL. This is an unlikely scenario for the most unlikely of regions.

ARTICLE 44 RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE PRESIDENT. 1. The President shall undertake the following State duties: - (a) Address the opening of the Parliament; (b) Address a special sitting of Parliament once a year; © May address Parliament any other time; 23 (d) The President shall appoint the President of the Supreme Court and other Judicial Officers on the proposal of the Judicial Service Council; (e) The President shall appoint persons to offices in the public service and Heads of government organs on the proposal of the Council of Ministers; (f) The President shall appoint persons to be Ambassadors, Diplomatic or Consular representatives to foreign countries on the proposal of the Council of Ministers; (g) The President shall receive foreign Diplomatic or Consular representatives in the country; (h) The President shall confer state honours on the proposal of the Council of Ministers. 2. The President shall appoint and dismiss the Prime Minister and/or dismiss the government if it fails to obtain the required vote of confidence from Parliament. 3. The President shall dismiss Ministers and Assistant Ministers on the proposal of the Prime minister. 4. The President shall have authority to: - (a) Sign international treaties on the proposal of the Council of Ministers and upon ratification by Parliament; (b) Assent and Sign into law, legislation passed by the parliament and regulations and decrees approved by the Council of Ministers;

^ Tribe= Somali people We are different clans and sub clans but ONLY ONE TRIBE.

Jimcaale Nice way out. Simply who can appoint a governor or who has the power too appoint a govenor according to the Transitional Federal Charter? MMA You ask what is abdullahi yusuf doing in Waamo when he is from Mudug? What was he doing in Baidoa or Mogadishu? he is the president of Somalia that is it. Other then clannish clout what other reason do you have to argue about the president naming an adminstration in jubboyinka like that of Banadir or Hiiraan or anywhere eles?

Red sea Continue with the name calling. Civilized debates go without namecalling and the like theoreof. You talk about ethiopian invasion of Somalia but yet you ignore the simplest infiltration of ethiopia and that is there disease. Its prevelance can not be ignored. You know that and I know that. It very much had relevance to the topic. IF you side track on Ethiopia's supposed takeover of Somalia how can I not harp on the fact that they have a presence in goboolaada Waqooyi galbeed ?

^ What is wrong with juke box? Do you even know what one is? Censor clan names, and provocative words but not simple things.

^ People often become ************* when the truth hits them smack dab between their eyes. Sad indeed. You chatter like ******, but when the tough gets going you resort to name calling and ******** attitude. [ January 18, 2007, 11:20 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Originally posted by Mujaahid: Red Sea: Taako "man" ******************** You are all over the place, if you trully hate the Ethiopians to an extent that you would even deny to see their civilians anywhere on somali soil then I must why do you even support their involvement into somalia militarily? Somaliland is also influence by Ethiopia and can be considered mini daba dhilif, however you haven't seen Somaliland draging Xabashis troops to kill other somalis have we, all you have are few harmless sportsmen, what else you got? I got tanks,planes, filthy Xabashi soldiers killing somalis in both cities and in country side.In fact Xamar, the capital of "your" house is being occupied,what a shame..can we reallly compare those two? On a serious note, I can really sense the desperation from you two, Garaad****** and ********* Taako.You are trying to do every bit to cover up and make an excuse in order to justify your support for the budhcad which is being driven and used as door handles by the Xabashis to kill othe somalis illegally. Ileen ********** qiiq kama kacdee daamanka ayey meerisaa. Firstly ******** Mujahid Sea, justifying whether one area is more dhabdhili.f then the other is clearly a sign that you knowingly acknowledge the fact that "SOMALILAND" is an ethiopian dabdhilif. Why don't you concentrate on freeing yourself from the shackles of the ethiopians? Like the ex-SNM against the old regime in which they kicked out the red berets in...WAS IT 1985 like the fairytale goes? Oh I forgot the Ethiopian dhabdhilif Riyaale threw all the SNM soldiers in jail while he is a president of a region in which he massacred the population. Isn't he the reason for the self determination? Or atleast part of it? Fix your ship before you jump on my ship. Your house is as dirty as mine. Do you know that Berbera has the highest rate of HIV in somalia/Seccesionland according to the document? Why is that? Habeshi are so close is the puppetry rubbing off on the local population too? [ January 18, 2007, 11:27 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

^ manuel Noreage had militia similar to Indhacadde. You come near his drugs you get shot. You mess with his monopoly he pays you a visit. Cia came later. He was a ruthless druglord killer. Warlord by some defintions is a military commander seizing a chunk of land. Does that mean he killed anybody? NO. Regardless Somalia has Fake Sheiks if you are arguing about a man which represents his consituency.

^ It's about the land that they are attempting to secede from. They are trying to take sool sanaag and cayn with them which is a NO NO. As to your other question, North westerners burnt the somalia flag and we have a right to show them what their flag means to us LOOOL.

^ They didn't burn a flag with a shahaada on it bud. Were have you been. It was the same flag without the shahaada.

Druglords don't kill? LOOOOOL. How do you think he protects his drugs? Manuel Noreaga didn't kill nobody right? kix kix kix kix.

Jimcaale Who appoints a governor then in this case to oversee the area?

^ Only in Somalia can a druglord become a sheik and security cheif of a religious movement, but who's looking LOOOOL.

Originally posted by Jimcaale: What’s so horrendous about advising against selective justice? You don’t have to go on a lecture on the character of this man. You and I are in agreement that he’s a noble patriotic Somali with a big heart. The problem is criminalizing lower ranking members of a group while giving the head immunity. Public opinion is in favor of Sheikh and against Indho-cade but public opinion isn’t the law of the country. Is it? Shouldn't the judicial system be the one to consider the case? Oh....forgive me. It slipped my mind that we're occupied. Yes the judicial system should judge these men. However based on reasonable and comprehendable perspective "Sheik" indhacadde is not a sheik, but Sheik Shariif is a noble man. The pillager of shabelleha hoose has a bad rep for a good reason you know?. How can the judicial system charge a man like Indhacadde when he isn't even in the country but sipping on halal budweiser in Germany?

^ LOOOL at they are ethiopians who came to participate. Your telling me not of the guys pictured are from Hargeisa? You kidding me bud? Why are ethiopians even in Hargeisa in the first place. Their flag is side by side with the seccesionist flag. Which is rediculous and hypocritical to say the least. FIX YOUR OWN HOUSE BEFORE YOU CRITICIZE MINE.

Jimcaale Your logic is horrendous. Your basically saying if you criticize the education system and many of its adminstration, you can't have a good/favourite teacher/principal? Sheik Shariif is a man with no blood on his hands and that is something that both sides of the coin have little of. He is a respectable man. Todays present situation is due in part to censoring sheik shariif for important decisions. Remember the good Sheik was literally gone for a week before the ICU erroneous decision to attack Baidoa. While the likes of "Sheik" indhacadde were advocating for full blown jihad against the world LOOOL, and now he is sipping on some drink in Germany while Sheik Shariif is presumably in confinement. P.S I never called Sheik Shariif a terrorist. Maybe your mistakening me for another person on this forum? I guess you think everybody from a certain clan has uniform beliefs/perspectives on different issues?

SNMujahid Red The former Carta gov't was also asking for ethiopian assistance. Many in this forum who are so anti tfg were pro TNG PRO ABDIQASIM. Which is utter hypocrisy. Bullocks my friend. But you don't see what you don't want to see.

How can Somalia fear tiny djibouti let alone a 50x50 clan triangle? Dialogue is the final solution. The people of Somalia are moving forward.

Inshallah we shall have a new speaker working for the establishment of Parliament in Mogadishu with healthy dialogue of a federal democracy not seen in somalia for many decades. 183 people voted yes 9 people voted no. If they were at the barrel of an ethiopian gun how come 9 people defied logic of going against an ak-47 right between their eyes?

^ Xamar is not in chaos. If it were the President and Prime minister would be on a spear. The only people barking are seccestionist, Ayatollah Castro, SNM Mujahid Sea, and the likes of you are wanting somalia to be in utter failure. government has disarmed the warlords and have expanded control from The depths of Toghdeer region to that of Jubbada hoose.

What I don't understand is if you hate the Ethiopian gov't so much why not burn the habeshi flag? Oh I forgot. I remember " A BOY BORN IN HARGEISA IS CLOSER TO A BOY BORN IN ADDIS THEN IN XAMAR" They even keep the ethiopia flag so close to their heart. But who am I. Just another casual observer.

Peace shall inshallah prevail. The warlords are disarming. The gov't is asserting its control. Ethiopia is leaving, AU troops are coming inshallah. The President is talking to all parties. The prime minister is functioning well with bringing in his banadir constituency. PROGRESS IS A SLOW PROCESS, BUT THINGS SEEM TO BE MOVING ALONG.