I am not obsessed with Somalia war? But I have a problem. I dont understand why there are many somalis who say Somalia defeated Cuba,Russia and Yemen in 1978. That is false but they insist with that idea,they dont show any proof of their point view but they always say Somalia won that war without proofs and I Will not accept that. Show me proofs that Somalia won that war.

Adam-Zayla I will not send any message to you,because I know the truth. And the truth is that Cuban and Ethiopian army defeated Siad Barre and Somalia in 1978,the rest is only death,glory and treason. For the cuban people the victory in 1978 is a symbol of victory and glory and the cuban general(Arnaldo Ochoa) who defeated Somalia in 1978 is our greatest military idol,his victory will be always remember for the cubans,ethiopians and somalis because he changed the history of these 3 nations. Somalia will never forget him.

And after the somalia defeat in 1978,it tried to conquer Western Somalia again but Somalia was defeated by Ethiopia in 1980. Look at this video: http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-12044. html Somali manpower had doubled during the conflict, but the Ethiopian army had destroyed a significant amount of Somali equipment This aid was insufficient, however, to restore the Somali armed forces to their pre-****** War effectiveness http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/sotoc.html Let me show you the opinion of a somali source:Said Samantar. The ****** War of 1977-78 between Somalia and Ethiopia and the consequent refugee influx forced Somalia to depend for its economic survival on humanitarian handouts. Domestically, the lost war produced a national mood of depression Following Moscow's decision to support Addis Ababa, Ethiopia received massive amounts of Soviet arms. Along with Soviet military advisers, about 15,000 Cuban combat troops also arrived. By early 1978, this aid had turned the tide of war in Ethiopia's favor. By March 9, 1978, when Siad Barre announced the withdrawal of the Somali armed forces from the ******, the Somali military had lost 8,000 men--one-third of the SNA, three-quarters of its armored units, and half of the Somali Air Force (SAF). http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/sotoc.html This is an interesting topic about Somalia.Enjoy it "The biggest mistake of Castro in Africa was Angola but his biggest victory was Ethiopia,because his army won the war"

Adam Zayla: know that Fidel Castro considers the Cuban army's role in the O-gaden war his biggest mistake in Africa cause he was anti-Imperialism but supported the Ethiopian state which build on the principle of Imperialism. A big mistake??? I dont understand your answer,the cuban adventure in Somalia was not a mistake,Cuba and Russia won the war,that is not a mistake.If you lose a war that is mistake if you win a war that is a victory.And dont forget OUA supports the cuban intervention in Ethiopia,all the african states supported Cuba. The Somali army suffered heavy casualties as did the Cuban army[3] The cubans only lost 400 men the somalis 8.000. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/******_War

Another source,Mr Galaydh http://www.biyokulule.com/dr.%20galaydh.htm The Somali forces, despite their decisive victories over the Ethiopians, were no match for the Soviet-directed and Cuban-led forces which broke through their defenses and captured Jigjig on March 5, 1978. There were no contingency plans: Siyaad Barre decided to withdraw his troops on March 9th [1978].

Somali article about the war: http://www.somalilandnet.com/somaliland_voice/opin ion/0130.shtml Hussein Adam and Ali Jimale tell us the story of the war. http://www.usip.org/pubs/peaceworks/pwks24.pdf Please read pag 3

B.G: It was a tactical withdrawal for a thirty year period Man that is very fun.That make any sense but let me show you the opinion of somalis about the war. A "tactical withdrawal" and they lost 3/4 of tanks and 1/2 Air Force. http://www.******.com/Special_Report.htm At the end of it all, a massive refugee crisis existed and the Somali military, which was no match for Cuban armed troops and their Soviet puppet masters, was in shambles. http://www.onlf.org/press_foreignRelations_jan2820 07.htm Somalia sensing the budding struggle and sense of revival in the ****** struggle and the weaknesses of the regime in Addis Ababa hijacked the struggle and defeated easily the Ethiopian army and captured most of the ******. Cuban troops and Warsaw Pact pilots and aeroplanes defeated the Somali army and reinstated Ethiopian occupation in the ****** http://wardheernews.com/articles/june/7_somali%20h istory_Geeldoon.htm Ali Samatar was privy to and a key player in all that happened behind the curtains in that crucial period when huge and more powerful forces were arrayed against us comprising Soviet generals and materiel as well as South Yemeni and Cuban forces beside the Ethiopians. After our defeat – we prefer to call it withdrawal – an Ethiopian colleague said to me jokingly, “ Ismail, we taught you Somalis a lesson” and I replied to him, also jokingly, “Yes, but the lesson was in Russian, not in Amharic”. He looked at me and simply walked away Abdi Samantar: http://www.sirclund.se/conference%20report%202004. pdf Please read pag 226. Somali successes were momentary once the Soviets, Cubans, and Yemani contingents intervened and helped Ethiopian troops beat the Somali army. This defeat has been catastrophic for Somalia and the liberation movement. In Somalia an armed political power struggle among the elite ensued, culminating in the state's collapse and in the country's disintegration in 1991. I have more somali sources,even Nurrudin Farah the somali writer says the war was a defeat.

I would like to know opinions about Ethio-Somali War in 1977. Why Somalia lost the war? I would like to write a small book about this war.

Well I think Siad Barre saw the oportunity to defeat Ethiopia because it was very weak in 1977. Siad Barre could win the 1977 War but cuban and russians betrayed him and then Somalia was defeated. I heard Yusuf sent secrets to Ethiopia. Is this true? A web about 1977-78 War http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_188.sht ml A somali tell us his point of view. http://wardheernews.com/articles/june/7_somali%20h istory_Geeldoon.htm After our defeat – we prefer to call it withdrawal – an Ethiopian colleague said to me jokingly, “ Ismail, we taught you Somalis a lesson” and I replied to him, also jokingly, “Yes, but the lesson was in Russian, not in Amharic”. He looked at me and simply walked away.

I would like to talk about this war,I think Somalia defeated Ethiopia but at the end Somalia was defeated by Cubans and Russians. http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/publish/Editor ial_29/Somalia_October_21_and_the_beginning_of_his tory_s_dark_chapter.shtml Gen. Barre lost the war after a congregation of enemy forces – Soviet, Cuban and South Yemeni troops – aided the defeated army of Ethiopia in pushing back Somali forces