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Originally posted by Xidig: hi all. i haven't come here for along time, my vote goes to SOMALIA,, that is the only place in this world i would i happily live in...markaa dhamaantiin waxaan idin LEEYAHAY...HAYBAD WAXAAD KU LEEDAHAY DHULKAAGA HOOYO"....whether you say england,,Australia,Canada...etc.no place matches home..adn hopegully things will improve there. so VOTE FOR SWEET HOME.. bye all hi Xidig - I vote with you. I vote for Somalia!

» Asalamu Alaykum, I did not have the pleasure of going to vocation, I have beeen very busy with school and some other issues, but I did have an experience with this. I was walking in a mall and there were tvs on the windows of one store. there was a music video on but I couldn't hear the music. Subxanallah if you have seen what I saw you never think these people are sane. jumbing, shaking bodies, heads, pointing fingers, strange mouth-movements, ect.... you can see it for yourself. next time when you see people dancing to a music put 'mute' on your tv and watch, you will see shaytan doing his evil work.

Cambodia? ahahaha lol ps. OG have you heard of the guy that collects land-mines in cambodia! I was watching a program few weeks ago and he removed more than 20,000 landmines with his bare-hands. WOW! now that is a brave man! bit crazy but crazy n brave go hand in hand!

btw, I khow this might be off topic, but what you guys think of those who believe AIDs was disease that was created in the western laboratories for the porpuse of limiting the people of color from taking over the world. they say that the population growth of the people of color is growing in large numbers while those of the west is decreasing, and that is when they decided to create this virus in order secure their world dominance. there was also some scientists in delhi that did research on the theory that aids came from monkeys in africa and found that this virus doesn't have any of the dna of monkeys or all animals and could only have been produced in labs. hmmm... interesting stuff!

hmmm... it seems we have another matrix fan! greetings! ps. Zion will Fall

Originally posted by Bari_Nomad: But does he really want the seperation of the NW? Is he using this as a political stepping stone to bigger and better things? If the presidency of Somalia was handed to Riyaale(or even Siilanyo), could they resist the ultimate dream of all somali leaders? Or would their morals(or lack of), would force them to continue on their current course? Do you think this inconsistant policy of sucessive hargeisa governments affect the goal of some for seperation? Please, no emotional outbursts... I hope some of the landers control their emotional outburts and debate with intellect. now to answer your questions, I think in the beginning there was a sense, as you said,that this seccession was a political card for power bargain, mainly the presidency and the capital to be moved to Hargaisa, I think it was a clever move that might have worked for them early in the proccess. the problem I see know is that there are young-landers who have been radicalised with this vision of breaking away from the rest of somalia, whom they see as monsters and blood-thirsty war-mongers. the elders and earlier political thinkers knew that if this vision of NW-breakaway was achieved it wouldn't mean success, in many ways, mainly economicaly, politicaly and security. today, with the emergence of these new radicals I think it is very likely that they would continue to pursue this, and I fear it might enevitablly come to some sort of armed conflict in the region. I pray to Allah that it does not come to that and they use their conscience and realize that they will be nothing without their Somali brothers and no matter how much they have suffered, others have suffered with them and by putting yourself in a box is not the solution.

Originally posted by Ibtilo: As a somalilander from Sanaag I can say whole heartdly that Sanaag is with Somaliland, Sool on the other hand is 50/50 Hawd, I dont know about. Lets face it Puntland only wants SS for Clan reasons, Somaliland is the only place offering then a real future without clans, and a peacefull one at that who knows when Yusuf and Jama are going to go at it again. -Ibtilo Allah will sort it out in the end. InshAllah. [/QB] Ibtilo, isn't it strange to you that only those who are supporting your SL-breakaway hallucination are of the same clan? can you sware to Allah that you and mr. Oodyare are not of the same clan? quite frankly SL is only based on clan and nothing else, the UN, AU, Arab League, IGAD, NAM, OIC and all other international organisations know this. when you speak on behalf of the people Sanaag, you should know that your people have settled in these regions only in the past 30 years, in search of wet regions and greener pastures and are not the true owners of these lands. The true people of Sool, Sanaag & Hawd are not buying your scheme and will never dance to your trickery music. They are aware of what your plans are and we will not take any part in breaking Somalia into Mini-States for the pleasure of Ethiopia. SL's clanstatehood has no future and will never see daylight. SS&H is Somalia and will always be Somalia! And please don't associate your evil scheme with Allah. Allah doesn't help those who do evil schemes. peace:

nice pictures! they are missing the helicopters!

Dear Mr. Oodyare I don't like to damage my status and come down from they throne just to slap you with clan-based politics. I'm more noble than that, Alhamdulilah, I don't need to justify my position, that SS&H belonging to Somalia through clan-based arguments. I'm not chained by ignorence and hate, I'm free from all chains of ignorance but it apears they are holding you tight beneath the red sea. If, from what I can tell reading your post, you want to start a war with the people of SS&H and you also Included Puntland, or as you put it, the '***** Confederacy', I am afraid All I can do is offer you my sincere advice. These are not people you want to wrestle with and your history is full of proves. We are people known for their kidness and peace. Travelers who have came to visit this land say, waa 'Dhul hub la'aan la diriro, hanti la'aan la dhergo oo hoy la'aan la seexdo' You call the actions of the Freedom Fighters, the Mujahideen who liberated you from the kufaar, 'uprising'? against who? SomaliLand? lol If we want to create a new Dervishes or not is our bussinessn not yours. You can be proud of your malitia, but never treathen the integrity and sovereignty of the people of SS&H or Puntland. We don't like to treathen people under the bed, we only speak in the battle-field. Don't become like the nomad, who after it rained saw a sleeping lion and thought it to be a cat, and when he came near it, tried to tickle it, it woke up, shake off the water and behold the might of the lion! Soomaalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa, 'Doqoni hoosiis by hadh moodaa', maanta waxaad joogtaa, 'Doqoni hadh bay hoosiis moodaa'. You said you were fighting for a state for the last 43 years, (1960). And what about before that, where you a free state? where you fighting for your freedom? or when you are with your fellow somalis, you are being colonized, but when you are under the kufaar you are free? It is said that the slaves use to say, 'it is better to have a free mind than a free body. I guess this is true! [ October 11, 2003, 06:41 AM: Message edited by: Admin ]

peace be upon my fellow nomads when you heard the word, 'Border' or when you heard the somali world 'Silsilad' what comes to your mind? 1. Walls 2. Barriers 3. Boundrys 4. Chains 5. Jail how about; Nationalism? Tribalism? the Somali people are in chains, we are chains at the end of the Indian Ocean. and it is not us but the whole Islamic World. its only the chains that are different. it is said that, 'the body of the african americans use to be slaves but their mainds were free, now their body is free but their brain is enslaved' the same thing is true about us somalis and the islamic world. 'we were colonized, but our minds were free, now we are free but our minds are colonized'. you see, read, watch this on the news daily, Iraq was attacked and the rest of the arab states and muslim states watched, cause there is a border that seperates them, you see the tanks of Israel enter the cities of palestine, demolish their dwelings, kill them and the rest of their fellow brothern watch cause their is an elution created to seperate them so that it is easier to kill one sheep when it is alone. you see it in somalia, one people who share the same language, culture, religion, destroy eachother, brother fighting brother, father against son. Their brains are chained with silsilad qabaaiil but their hands are free to commit unimaginable crimes. I ask you, the future of Somalia, when will you personaly free yourself from these chains? when will you start practicing your religion if you call yourself Islam? when will you become free from the elusions of this world that will only last 2 nights? The keys to all these chains are in the Qur'an and Sunnah! it is only up to you and me to hold these keys and open our hears and minds from all chains that enslave us, these borders that divide us. peace!

Originally posted by Bari_Nomad: Gediid, I like those traditional pictures. I wish more people had those kinds of weddings. Here's are some nice pictures I found of Calmadow, Sanaag region. subxanallah! Illah ha noo barakeeyo dhulkeena Somalia!

masha'allah magacfiican bay labexeen Illahna ha waafajiyow hana barakay'yo!

hmm... the only thing that is always on my mind is conquest.conquest.conquest... I have planed the conquest of many lands and empires and written perfect bullet-proof strategies, but the one thing that I'm unable to conquer is a one small Island named the heart! hmm... any ideas?

uups I'm also late! Happy Dhalasho Day lucky

subxanallah walaahi waa cajaa'ib! SS&H miyaa maanta Kashmir noqotay? so it has commed to this! thousands of honorable martyrs from SS&H have shed their blood for the dignity of Somalia and its people and the hope of greater somalia. they have spent years fighting against the colonial enemies of Allah and the somali people, so that one day their children would spend their lives studing and living freely from foriegn imperialism. it is nothing but a joke to say that the sons of the Mujahideen and the sons of the Daraawiish want to be seperated from their fellow somali brotern, whom their fathers lost their lifes for. SS&H is, has been, and will never be seperated from Somalia, Nay they are still dreaming to be re-united once against with their fellow somali brothern and to live under a united 5-pointed star under the crescent of Islam. Long Live Somalia! Long Live Somalia! May Allah Bless You Forever! ps. if it counts, I am from the Al-Mountains area of Sanaag! they only place you can find water-falls in all of somalia.

IS XISAABI INTA AAN LAGU XISAABIN Shanta Salaadood si fiican ma u tukataa? Ma soontaa bisha barakaysanee ramadaan? Ma la baxdaa sadaqo, sekadase ma bixisaa? Ma xajiday haddaad xoolo leedahay? Farriinta Alle ma akhrisatay - Al Quraan? Mase fahamtay faham saxiixa? Ma raacday rasuulkeenii calayhi salaam? Bidcada ma iska ilaalisaa maalin kasta? Alle xagiisa dadka ma ugu yeertaa? Ma ku dadaashaa saburtaana kheyrka? Ma ka saburtaa carartaana sharka? Ma fartaa dadka samaynta waxyaabaha san? Ma ka reebtaa dadka falalka foosha xun? Ma badisaa xasuusta maalinta aakhiro? Ma u diyaar garoowday la kulanka Alle? Ma damcaysaa janatu Alfirdawsa al'aclaa? Ma ka baqaysaa gelista naarta jaxiima? Ma ku dadaashaa digriga iyo xuska Alle? Ma ku salidaa nebiga calayhi salaam? Quudkaaga xaaraanta maka ilaalisaa? Hugaagu dhar islaam ma yahay? Deriskaaga xuquuqdooda ma ilaalisaa? Masaakiinta ma siisaa, quudisaana cunto? Ma ka fekertaa nolosha ehel & ubadba? Ma ka mid tahay xisbiga Alle? Ma iska ilaalisaa xisbiga shaydaanka? Ma ka war haysaa Muslimiinta xaalkooda? Ma u ducaysaa walaalahaaga kaa maqan? Ma ku bixisaa dhaqaalahaaga dacwada? Ma ka toobad keentaa dunuubtaada? Ma ka ilaalisaa carrabkaaga hilibka dadka? Shaqadaada ama kasabkaagu xalaal mayahay? Aduunyadaada ma u qaadatay aakhiradaada? Caafimaadkaagana ma u qaadatay jiradaada? Qore: Miskiin, Alle u baahan Qofkii akhriya siina fidiya waxaan ugu ducayn Janada Alle.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: Believe or not, those are "houses" lived by actual people _________________ Macsalaama. lol waxaan mooday 'crop circles' doesn't it look like crop circles?

Originally posted by Ladiif: War this retard does not make any sense at all. He is a TRAITOR and should be dealt accordingly ASAP. You asked for opinions, there you have mine. Xuska Ladiif Thanks for your comments, but could you please be more espicific so others can comment on your post. what part of the discussion didn't make sence to you? And also although I didn't intend for us to focus on the speaker but his message, would you care to explain how he is a 'traitor'? peace!

Originally posted by HornAfrique: Atleast Kenya is on the open now, but how can we be sure that they're not influencing the Somali peace process more than Ethiopia? Illaahayow nacaawai. Aamiin! Eebaa Weyn Ninkii Aaminaa Awood Leh! what we need are honest Allah-fearing leaders and I'm afraid there is long way to go b4 get there. If we unite under the teachings of Islam and follow it, we shall succeed. Insha'Allah we will get there through hard work and firm believe in Allah The Most Great!

Lucky iyo nuune, I'm glad 2 share it with you! ka faa'iidaysta Insha'AllAh!

Asalamu Alaykum There is great program discussed in the BBC @ 18:00 GMT today! If you haven't already listened to it, do it now Insha'Allah! Speacial Guest: Abdirisaaq Xaaji Xuseen; Former PM of Somalia Topics discussed: somaliweyn, moi's comments about ethiopia&kenya's fear about somalia's ambision of greater somalia, Somali flag(star), 1963, 1977 war, current peace-converence in kenya, western somalia, Somalis in Kenya(NFD), Djabouti, and much more. Listen: Friday: 03, October 2003 What do you think? give us your feedback when you listen Insha'Allah! Ps. if you can find another permenant link please post it, cause this link will change by tomorrow. wasalaam!

You are welcome! I hope you enjoy it!

bacda salaan, daawada sawiradan soomaaliya oo cirka lagasoo sawiray _by NASA 2,724 Shuttle images of SOMALIA peace-enjoy