^you evil man I love the scenery, hmmm hablaha Hargeysa iyo Naaso hablood stir that black pot

Originally posted by Yaabka-Yaabkiis: in OWKOMBE'S WORD IN THAT SAYING: MEESHA JOOGTID DHEG HADI LEESKA GOOYA DHEGAA LESKA GOOYA. Aw-Koombe is a very wise man, but I am rather fond of my ears. Xanthus a question for you, would you rather live in city where you are in fear of intimidation, where you will get killed for clan reasons, where your rights are not respected and where you can't even speak your mind and where you have to lie about who you are OR would you rather live in a free, fair and just city (society)where everyone is treated equaly, where no one should live in fear of intimidation, harrasment and where if I choose I could walk around in a tank-top (pink one ofcourse) saying Siyad Barre rules.

^ Xanthus you suggested that I hand in my rights and that I should choose to live in fear of intimidation and that I should accept the fact that I will be intimidated (your when in Rome act like romans saying, is suggesting that I should accept to be intimidated in my hometown.) When in Rome is not applicaple when you will get killed for clan reasons or when your property is fair play for every thug. So are you serieus when you are suggesting these things or are you playing around?

Originally posted by Xanthus: quote: Edit: and to finish you sentance. I can't live in Hargaysa because of qabiil reasons and qabyaalad. Well here is a few rules to avoide this problem. 1) Do not write your qabiil on your forehead, or wear a top that says "Bring Siyad back" 2) Hang around with old men 3)Avoid Ciiyaal suuq 4) Don't insult anyone or be rude. Now if my White friend can go to work in Hargansia for 3months and come back well and allive i don't see why a somali should have a problem. 5) Fuuleenimaad isska daah, you will not die before your time or after it for that matter. Then you should be fine What happened to living peacefully in a city without fear and intimidation? What happened to free speech? Why should I sacrifice my rights? because thats what you are suggesting.

Sleep tight dear ps. I should open a debating school for you folks. It's getting silly now, I mean, work together, PM each other, form a united front against me hold meetings anything will ya. Write petitions to the admin to ban me, kill me like Oodweyne suggested. Ignore me, just do something. It is weakness to run away everytime that the debate doesn't go your way. I mean Ayoub & Badacase surely you must have a case to argue for. For the past 18 pages allot of folks have TRIED and failed to find flaws in my reasoning and the case I am presenting. I give you folks who are arguing for secession the chance to bring forward your case so that we can debate about that. This is an invitation folks, not accepting this invitation can be seen as that you have no case. So don't let this opportunity go past you by.

Originally posted by AYOUB: Mr ME You have unashamedly put Gen Barre in the same bracket as Axmed Gurey. Was this a "joke" too? "The ones that matter, are the immortals, those that make history. The ones that people here on SOL want to be associated with, the Axmed Gurays, Sayd Maxamed Cabdile Xasans, Said Barres, Xalenles." barres quote: Its a fact, that I can not live in my hometown because of qabiil reasons, but that goes for allot of Somalis. Another baseless allegation not a fact. Tell us why YOU can't live in Hargeisa. No riddles. NO verbal gymnastics. Go on spill the beans. I'll even start the sentence for you: " I can't live in Hargeisa because ..... Ayoub, I hope people read the link you posted to see what I wrote there, because it does not support your allegations whatsoever. This is another lame attempt to descredit my SOL reputation Ayoub if you had anything worth mentioning you wouldn't have posted a link, but you would have posted a direct quote. So please quote what I said. 1. Did Siyad Barre make history? I will let you answer that. 2. Are there people here on SOL that would like to be associated with Siyad Barre? I will let you answer that too. Edit: and to finish you sentance. I can't live in Hargaysa because of qabiil reasons and qabyaalad.

^ We are going for a record. Northerner you are right, it was good for some and bad for some, but the overwhelming majority had it better under Siyad Barre, so the averadge Somali had it better under his regime. Edit: should we go back to the Siyad Barre era? No we shouldn't, we can do much better then a dictatorship.

Originally posted by Mj. bada Cas: quote:Originally posted by me: What I said are well documented here, please go back and re-read it. Sure they are! ...and I have reread what you have said, and here it's. I copied the time, the day, and all that good stuff that is needed for everyone to see of you saying exactly that, that Siyad Barre wasn't a dictator but rather a doctor. Let me sum up what I always say. Siyad Barre was a dictator that ruled with an iron fist. Siyad Barre hit all Somali rebel groups equally, he spared no one. Okay, here you denied he was a dictator: Nomad Member: 6546 Judge Me: posted 02-14-2007 11:29 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Siyad Barre a dictator? hell no, Siyad Barre was a doctor at a madhouse, now the patients have chased away the doctor and they are unstoppable. Somalia misses Siyad Barre. -------------------- All men dream but not equally. those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their mind wake in the day to find it was in vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, to make it possible Posts: 1504 | From: Hargeysa, Waqooyi Galbeed, Somalia | Joined Somalia Online: Oct 2005 | Identity: Logged | Siyad Barre led a corrupt regime. according to that quote, he was a doctor ...go figure. Btw...without wasting too much time on flirting with Xanthus, you should know that Ayoub is STILL waiting some explanations from you Qurbaawi boy. badacase, lame attempt, I know I said much much worser things, please do better investigation. Was Siyad Barre a dictator? No doubt about it. Did Siyad Barre rule with am iron fist? Hell yea he did ( now looking back in my opinion, he should have been allot harder with the rebel groups) Now comes the other bit, is Somalia a madhouse? Well looking at how things have developed the past 16 years it is. was Siyad Barre better for the Somali people then everything that has followed him? Yes he was. Without a shaddow of a doubt. Would the averadge Somali rather live under Siyad Barre's regime then the warlords and the thugs that follwed him? Well I know I would. So what are we talking about? So people, don't waste time, please spit through my posts and find some real evidence. Clearly I am guilty (of whatever) in your eyes, so find that smoking gun. Xanthus & Badacase, I see there is trouble in paradise work it out will ya!

Some people have no lives? are you here on weekends too?

Guud Ahaan Magaalada Caasimada Ee Muqdisho Oo Gacanta U Gashay Ciidamada Dowlada KMG Iyo Kuwa Ethiopia Warkii 27-Apr-2007 iyo Qormadii: faytin xaalada magaalada muqdisho ayaa saaka degan kadib markii maalintii shalay ay ciidamada huwanta ah ee dowlada KMG iyo ciidamada Ethiopia ay la wareegeen gacan ku haynta magaalada muqdisho ,iyadoo ay baarayaan dhamaan xaafadaha ka ag dhowaa deegaanada dagaaladu ay ka socdeen sida xaafada xamar -jadiid ,xamar -billa ,towfiiq,juungal,agagaarka al-cadaala iyo meelo kale . Baaritaanka xaafadahan ayaa sidoo kale lagu arkaayey guryo ay jebiyeen ciidamada dowlada KMG ahi oo ay dadkii lahaa ay ka qaxeen xiligi dagaaladu bilowdeen ,taasoo sida ayu sheegayaan dad xog-ogaal ahi loo gaystay meelo kamida xaafada xamar jadiid iyo xamar billa bililiqo xoogan . Guud ahaan caasimada muqdisho ayaa gacanta u gashay ciidamada dowlada KMG ah iyo xoogaga ciidanka xukuumada Ethiopia ,iyadoo sidoo kale dad badan oo shacab ah oo lagu tuhmayey inay dagaalada ka qayb qaateen lagu qab-qabtay qaar ka tirsan xaafadaha magaalada muqdisho ,dadkan oo lagu qiyaasay ilaa 100-qofood oo rag ah ayaan la ogayn inay ka bar bar dagaalamyeen xoogaga kacdoonka wada ee muqaawimada iyo in kale . waxaa xiran guud ahaan wadooyinka soo gala magaalada caasimada ee muqdisho iyadoo aysan jirin wax ka baxaya iyo wax soo gelaya ,lamana garanayo xoogagii kacdoonka ahaa ee la dagaamayey ciidamada huwanta ah halka ay ku dambeeyeen . Ciidamada xukuumada Ethiopia oo ku hubaysan taangiyada iyo hubka noocyadiisa kala duwan oo ay gelbinayaan ciidamada dowlada KMG ah ayaa lagu arkayaa wadooyinka waaweyn ee magaalada muqdisho kuwaasoo dadka shacabka ah ee wadooyinka maraya mid mid u baaraya islamrkaana qofka ay uga shakiyaan inuu yahay qaab culimo-udiin qabanaya iyadoo aan la ogayn halka dadkan la qab qabanyo la gayanayo balse la arkayey iyagoo lagu gurayo baabuurta loo yaqaano waaraadka . Si kastaba ahaatee xaalada magaalada muqdisho ayaa saaka degan waloow ay dadka shacabka ah ee ku nool magaalada muqdisho qaarkeed lasoo deristay cabsi iyo wel-wel kaga imaanaya dadka culimada ah ama u ekaan karaba oo laga ururinayo guud ahaan magaalada caasimada ee muqdisho . yaasiin maxamed cali (faytin) yaasiinfaytin@hotmail.com info@afnugaal.com

(Arkaysaa, Maqlaysaa) , saxaafaddaha ree Galbeedka oo qayb libaax ka qaatay dagaallada Muqdisho Qaahira (27 Apr 07), Hadal aan ka soo xiganay sargaal Masaari ah oo magiciisa qarayay ayaa sheegaya in saxaafadda ree Galbeedka ee Muqdisho ku sugan ay qayb libaax ka ciyaartay dagaalka u dhexeeyay Soomaalida iyo Itoobiyaanka waasiduu hadalka u dhigay e. Sargaalkan ayaa sheegay in jariiradda AFP ee laga leeyahay dalka Faransiiska, jariiradda/idaacadda BBC oo laga leeyahay wadanka boqortooyada Ingriiska, jariiradda AP oo laga leeyahay wadanka Maraykanka iyo jariirado iyo idaacaddo kale oo laga leeyahay wadamada ree Galbeedka inay wariyeyaal ahaan ugu shaqaynayeen saraakiil ciidan. Saraakiishan ree Galbeedka oo ahaa khuburo milateri ayaa si ay u qiimeeyaan awoodda xoogagga la dagaalamaya ciidamada Itoobiyaanka loo soo galiyay shaati suxufinimo ayuu hadalkiisa ku daray sargaalka Masaariga ahi taasoo sahashay ayuu yidhi in fikir guud laga qaato awooddooda, hubka ay haystaan noocyadiisa, xarumaha ay leeyihiin iyo baaxadda aagga ay ka dagaalamayaan. Arinkan uu sargaalku sheegay hadii uu u jiro sida uu u sheegay waxaa hubaal ah in dagaalyahanka Soomaalidu ay sameeyeen khalad la mid ah kii ay Maxkamaddaha Islaamiga ahi ay sameeyeen dabayaaqadii sanadkii tagay taasoo ahayd ogolaanshihii ay saxaafadda ree Galbeedka u ogolaadeen inay booqdaan oo wararka ka soo tabiyaan jiida hore, tagaanna xarumaha waawayn iyo saldhigyada mujaahidiinta. Saxaafadda ree Galbeedka ayaa la rumaysanyahay inay lug weyn ku lahayd arimihii soo dadajiyay jabkii Maxkamaddaha Islaamiga. Hadaba waxaa loo baahanyahay in wakhtiga wax laga barto oo Soomaalidu indhaha furto. Caalamkan maanta la joogo Soomaalidu saaxiib kuma laha marka laga reebo dawladda Eritrea (are we sure about them?) oo dhaleecaysay joogitaanka ciidamada Itoobiya ay joogaan Soomaaliya iyo xasuuqa ay ka wadaan sidaa daraadeed waxaa loo baahanyahay in wixii hadda ka danbeeya qori iyo qiiqiisaba la isla tuuro oo ree Galbeedka iyo saxaafaddoodaba la isla tuuro. Hadalka sirta ah ee uu KismaayoNews siiyay sargaalka Masaariga ah runnimadiisa waxaad ku garan sababta keentay in dagaalka socda ay saxaafadda reer Galbeedku u soo bandhigi waayaan ciidamada Itoobiyaanka oo dagaalamaya, dhimashada soo gaarta iyo dhaawacooda oo la daldalayo halka ay ka soo bandhigayaan dagaalyahanka Soomaaliyeed oo raaca hore dagaalka kaga jira. KismaayoNews.com

It is a sad event and I am ashamed that this is happening and all I am doing is read about it. Why are we in this position, that Somali men have to flee for Ethiopians in Xamar? and what should we do about it? If I could do anything alone, I would have a long time ago, but we are here with how many people on SOL and what do we do? I mean we finally got a cause worth fighting for, we finally got a chance to forget about our differences and what do we do? Nothing, same old BS, we have been doing for the past 16 years.

^ si fiican ayaad isu soo qabatay hasa yeeshee waa goor ee kaa fakaratay.

^as much as it takes.

What assumptions are we talking about, I would like to confirm them for you.

Marka xaq u dirirkii haday u dhamaatay maxaa hadhay, adigu bal yaad la jirtaa? Xaqa lama jirtid?

^Depends on what I am talking about and who I am talking to. Sometime it is kaftan, sometimes serieuse. Originally posted by Xanthus: ^^That is the problem in SOL!, people try to be more than just user name, I'm just a fake name, in fact it is a Greek name which means yellow and girls and guys and pet animal share the name. What I am is not important in this discussion, I am just a user name with views. Why does my views have to be a “Women’s view” or a “Man’s View” or “Horse’s view” So why do you have BIG assumptions, if I am just a username? aren't you making things more then they are? afterall I am a username with views.

yee u dhamaatay?

^ I am glad another assumption of yours is dispelled. ps. I heard the bones on a horses skull is denser then a human one.

You have a point there, I totally agree with you.

Originally posted by Xanthus: I'm not a man, or a women or naag or whatever else you guys call people. :rolleyes: I'm Xanthus Well when you said this, you were implying that you were 'people' and now you say. Now I am confused Xanthus, what are you? Are you a horse? a man, a woman? a girl, boy, naag, nin, bicycle...bal noo sheeg.

I know you are Xanthus, the talking horse. But isn't it hard to type with hooves? BTW, are horses consuidered people?

Originally posted by Xanthus: Again sorry I'm not a women, fall flat on your face in assumptions. Originally posted by Xanthus: (if you were to tell the truth you would have simple said I was insulted because a women spoke to me << and now the xishoodless women she is, she has just winked at you. Earlier we said, this was the coming out of the closet thread. Ooh boy were we right.

^ hey easy with my screenname.

Originally posted by Mj. bada Cas: quote: me - I would like to see a free, fair and just Somali government, that looks out for the interests of its citizens, a government that is free of corruption & nepotism. When you are constantly arguing of the goodness of Siyad Barre and even denying his corruption, dictatorship, and his cruelty against poeple, when you are doing that, doesnt fairness, corruption free ideas come to your mind. Or are you again sugar coating things for us, because you have been found speechless.So when have I denied corruption? When did I sugarcoat anything? What was not clear about my answer? I am sorry Badacase but you are reading too much into things. What I said are well documented here, please go back and re-read it. Let me sum up what I always say. Siyad Barre was a dictator that ruled with an iron fist. Siyad Barre hit all Somali rebel groups equally, he spared no one. Siyad Barre led a corrupt regime. But everything that followed Siyad Barre makes him Ghandi today and I would rather live under Siyad Barres regime, where education was free, health care was free. Where we had formidable armed forces that protected our nation, then live under the current thugs that sold our country. So again , you don’t know what you got till its gone.