Ilaahay ha u naxariisto. Simiir iyo iimaan.

^What impact do you think these actions will have?

It is a message indeed, but what kind of message? This 'government' is corrupt, it works for our enemy and now its trying to destroy the Somali business community. This is not good news. I hope that those business men help the resistance with their money and expertise. The TFG are parasites. Gekko - I thought you was for free trade? whats up now? Don't you know that these actions will destroy Somalia's economy. Who will invest in the country now if the business community is treated that way?

Libaax dad ku dilay, laguna dilay degmada X/weyne & Muuqaalkii Libaaxa & raggii dilay Story Lions killing folks in Xamar? Atleast we still got lions.

The question is would you want to avoid the geeljire faarax? I say geeljire faarax are not a problem.

^ Odayga I knew in aad godkaaga ka soo baxaysid. and how you went for the bait. Resist man resist, your on holiday anigoo East Africa jooga yaaba igu arki lahaa SOL. (In other words, let us enjoy your absence) So how is the fishing going Munira? please do share.

SOL

Hahahhaahaahah@Japanese scientists have created a camera with such a fast shutter speed, they now can photograph a woman with her mouth shut. damnnnn@Baby conceived naturally. Scientists stumped. lol@Florida voters still having trouble with voting machines . Nice ones.....

Internet dating is proving a much more successful way to find long-term romance and friendship for thousands of people than was previously thought, new research shows. A new study of online dating site members has found that when couples who had built up a significant relationship by e-mailing or chatting online met for the first time, 94 per cent went on to see each other again. Perhaps surprisingly, the study, by Dr Jeff Gavin, of the University of Bath, also found that men were more emotionally dependent on their 'e-partners' than women, and more committed to the relationship. Old-fashioned romance isn't dead, however: among the survey's findings were that exchanging gifts was the best way to ensure commitment in the relationship. Dr Gavin's research comes at a time when the numbers using internet dating agencies have steadily increased: around six million Britons are now believed to have signed up. Dr Gavin, with Dr Adrian Scott of the University of Bath and Dr Jill Duffield of the University of the West of England, carried out an online survey of 229 people, aged 18 to 65, who have used UK internet dating sites, asking them about their main relationship that they had had online. Dr Gavin's paper will be read at an international psychology conference next month. The research showed that: 94 per cent of those surveyed saw their 'e-partner' again after first meeting them, and the relationships lasted for an average of at least seven months, with 18 per cent of them lasting over a year. men online were significantly more likely to be committed to the relationship than women and were more dependent on their 'e-partner'. the more the couple engaged in simultaneous online chat before meeting rather than simply e-mailing one another, the more they were found to depend on one another emotionally and the more they understood one another. those who exchanged gifts before meeting had a more committed and deeper relationship. the more the couple talked on the telephone before they met, the deeper the relationship. Dr Gavin, of the University of Bath's Psychology Department, and his co-authors, found that people using the internet rarely used webcams, which allow computer users to see one another, because they preferred the greater anonymity of writing and using the telephone. "This study shows that online dating can work for many people, leading to a successful meeting for almost everyone we surveyed," said Dr Gavin. "Given that the most successful relationships lasted at least seven months, and in some case over a year, it seems that these relationships have a similar level of success as ones formed in more conventional ways. "We found that men tend to be more committed to the online relationships than women, possibly because the anonymity of writing gives them a chance to express their emotions more readily than in real life. "We also found that people are shying away from using webcams because they feel it's important not see their partners for some time – there is something special about text-based relationships." Dr Gavin believes that the reason that using the telephone and online chatting indicates a deeper relationship is that these are methods of simultaneous communication, whereas e-mails are more formal. Of the relationships, 39 per cent were still going on at the time of the survey, and of these 24 per cent had been going for at least a year, and eight per cent for at least two years. Of the relationships that had already ended at the time of the survey, 14 per cent had lasted over a year, and four per cent had lasted over two years. ### Notes to editors: The 94 per cent success rate (the percentage of those who went on to meet more than once) refers to the most significant online relationship that the respondents had, not to all their online relationships. Of the 229 people interviewed, 90 per cent had met their most significant 'e-partner', and of these 94 per cent went on to meet again. Dr Gavin is an authority on internet dating agencies, having published several papers on this subject. For further information and interviews, please contact Tony Trueman in the University of Bath press office. source

You mean the Ethiopian army operations.

Mungiki: No retreat Sect vows more beheadings as Govt confers with Mt Kenya MPs and pledges firepower By TIMES TEAM SUSPECTED Mungiki sect members yesterday issued fresh threats as the government and 25 MPs from parts of Central and Rift Valley provinces declared total war on the outlawed group. As leaflets believed to have been issued by members of the sect were circulated in Kiria-ini area of Murang’a district with fresh threats, a meeting convened by Head of the Civil Service and Secretary to the Cabinet Francis Muthaura with the MPs, vowed to use all possible means to wipe out the sect. The leaflets contained threats by the sect to behead 20 more people, among them ten police officers and local residents suspected to be cooperating with the government. But elsewhere, ODM-K presidential hopeful Raila Odinga criticised the manner in which the government has been handling the Mungiki menace. Upon his arrival in the country from Britain, KANU Chairman Uhuru Kenyatta told the government to deal firmly with the sect whose activities, he said, posed both national and international threats. Raila on his part criticised the Monday killing of 24 suspected Mungiki adherents by police in Mathare slums, describing the action as massacre. Raila said the law enforcers had no justification to go on a killing spree of the suspects to avenge the killing of two of their colleagues. He said the officers should have arrested the victims in order to grill them to get information that would help them solve the mystery behind the Mungiki sect terror that has left tens of people grisly murdered in Kiambu, Muranga and Nairobi in the recent past. Addressing a press conference before proceeding on a campaign trail in Sururu, Mauche, Molo, Kuresoi and Rongai areas, Raila called for the resignation of the Internal Security Minister, John Michuki for allegedly failing to contain the Mungiki menace In their latest leaflets, the sect threatened to behead 20 more people, among them 10 police officers and local residents suspected to be cooperating with the government in its crackdown. They also threatened to behead matatu operators and owners of homesteads that default on the payment of the daily Sh 200 and monthly Sh 100 protection fee respectively. Acting Murang’a North district police boss Albert Kimathi, however, assured residents that the government had beefed up security in the area . He confirmed that the police were aware that the sect was demanding for a protection fee of Sh 200 from every matatu and Sh 100 from every homestead each month and another Sh 50 from every small business in Kahuro division. Mr Kimathi assured residents that the police had intensified patrols in the area to ensure that all suspected members of the sect were arrested and arraigned in court. Internal Security minister John Michu, briefing the press after a meeting with the legislators in Nairobi, said they had resolved to use a two-pronged approach to fight members of the sect that have left a trail of deaths wherever they have struck. Among the issues agreed upon was that the government deals with the sect members firmly while the MPs sensitise the residents on the need for peaceful co-existence. “We have agreed that the government continues to deal firmly with the criminal elements in the affected areas according to the law ,” said Michuki. He said the legislators had undertaken to deal with the economic and social issues by discouraging them from engaging themselves in criminal activities. The MPs are also expected to encourage youths in the affected areas to apply for financial assistance from devolved funds such as Constituency Development Fund (CDF), Women Enterprise Fund and the Youth Enterprise Fund to start income-generating activities. The youth can as well apply for other fundings from the Hawkers Markets Micro Enterprise Fund. Michuki said that the widely publicised murderous wave being blamed on Mungiki members had caused a state of fear and panic amongst Kenyans. The minister, whose home district of Muranga has heavily been affected by criminal activities of the Mungiki sect, appealed to politicians to refrain from making inflammatory and inciting statements. Earlier, Michuki had held a two-hour consultative meeting with various heads of government security agencies among them the Commissioner of Police Major General Hussein Ali, Director of Criminal Investigations Department (CID) Gatiba Karanja, Director of National Security Intelligence Services (NSIS) Major-General Michael Gichangi, among others. The leaflets in Muranga were in circulation only hours after two suspected members of the outlawed sect were on Tuesday shot dead and more than 20 others arrested by police in Kahuro division in a major operation following the beheading of four people on Monday night. The two who were identified as Patrick Kamau and Henry Kaberia were in a gang of 20 people who were waylaid in a forest near Gitiri village by police who were patrolling the area in search of the attackers during Monday’s killings in the district in which an elderly couple was among those hacked to death. On Monday night, an unknown number of people beheaded four people in Murang’a district . The victims, who included Lawrence Irungu Gatimu, 66, and his wife Beatrice Wanjiru Irungu, 64, were killed in the bloodiest nights since the war pitting the sect against the police came to the fore. Others were David Mwangi and Evans Kimani Magoiri. Confirming the Tuesday incident, Acting Murang’a North district Police boss Albert Kimathi said the two who were armed with pangas and other crude weapons defied police orders to surrender, prompting the police to open fire on them. The Murang’a killings coincided with another bloodbath in Mathare and Mlango Kubwa areas in Nairobi in which two police officers on patrol of the area, suspected to be a major hideout for the sect members, were shot from behind by members of the gang believed to be Mungiki and took their two AK 47 rifles snatched by others who had taken positions. As a result, police mounted a major operation in the area in which 25 people were killed by the police on suspicion of being members of the murderous sect. The two officers killed by the sect were identified as Constables John Matinde and the 24-year-old Philip Lengai who had served the force for less than six months. Two of their colleagues who were also seriously injured during the attack were rushed to the Armed Forces Memorial Hospital where they are receiving treatment. Confirming the Nairobi incident, Police Spokesman Erick Kiraithe said the men who were gunned down were among suspected Mungiki members who had attempted to stop the police from carrying out the operation after their two colleagues were felled by the sect members. And following the Monday night killings in Murang’a, Kimathi said security personnel drawn from the General Service Unit (GSU) Administration Police (APs) and the regular police as well as undercover police had been deployed in the area to search and bring the assailants to book. According to Kimathi, the police positively identified the felled men, Kamau and Kaberia, as Mungiki followers using the intelligence report they had obtained from area residents. He said those arrested in Kahuro and other areas in the district are in custody and are helping the police with investigations. And in Nairobi, a skinned human head which was recovered from the volatile Mathare area was taken to the City Mortuary without the rest of the body. Sources said that more bodies had been taken to the City Mortuary but it could not be confirmed whether the people had been killed by Mungiki or died from other causes.

Mungiki terrorism is bad for economy KENYA’s sustained economic growth soon after attaining independence in 1963 has largely been attributed, not to natural resources, but years of steady peace and political stability. Even many countries with huge resources, including natural oil have not done better than Kenya. Our huge and most valuable resource has therefore been peace which has effectively translated in goodwill and a magnetic pull for foreign investment. Tourism is one industry that flourishes on peace and has conferred upon the country a strong foundation for economic development. A threat to Kenya’s peace is therefore a major blow to the country’s socioeconomic development, scaring away both local and foreign investments. And this is why the Government must bring to an end the Mungiki orgy of killings. Investors All businesses are bound to suffer considerably if anarchy persists and losers will be all Kenyans, including Mungiki. It will be worse if the usual uncertainty that comes with general election is further complicated by insecurity. A number of investors are likely to suspend their business ventures in Kenya from mid this moth even before we plunge into the usual murky campaign period for the General Election. The ongoing Mungiki terror and the Government’s bloody counter attack therefore pose a real threat to tourism on which many other related subsectors thrive. Education as a commercial product is also bound to be affected by the ongoing terror which, unfortunately, has hit Nairobi which is the hub of Kenya’s higher education industry. Parents and sponsors of foreign students as well as other business institutions and agencies with foreign staff in Kenya must be extremely scared of the unfolding events in the country. UNEP For some years, the United Nations has been toying with the idea of closing and relocating the United Nations Environmental Programme headquarters citing insecurity in Nairobi. The Government after having demonstrated that it has the boots, machine and gunfire to hit back at the Mungiki sect, should now think of an alternative modus operandi that would equally send a strong message to the outlawed sect that the sect stands to gain from peace other than terror. The Government should consult widely, both experts and opinion leaders, particularly from Central Province from where most of the sect members reside to arrive at a quick solutions to the menace. Kenya is reputed as an island of peace and peace maker in the region. The country should not be allowed to degenerate into a seat of anarchy and communal strife. President Mwai Kibaki has a duty to convene public meeting in central province to seek a solution to the menace before it spills over to other regions in the country. This is the President’s job which he should not delegate.

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: ^^^Xaa kugo dhacay. He is not a Riyaale supporter dee. I believe Badacase wuxuu jagada la rabaa ina Waraabe.

Munira it has no effects that I am aware of. It smells wonderfull and the tea drinking experience is multiplied by lets say 100000000. Just like hayl, qorfe, dhagayare and even sinjibiil it adds to the tea drinking experience.

Thats what I call an ambush!

Ouch badacase.

Xanthus, oooh do I , do I, do I, bring some of that geed xamari for me. And I believe Puuja was intrested in it too. She needed a secret ingredient for her tea too. Have a good trip back.

Originally posted by me: Ok now you all made you opening comments. I would like to hear the core issues that needs to be addressed for you AS INDIVIDUALS for you to believe in any Somali government. What are the issues that you believe are non-negotiable for you. For me for example are the territorial integrity of the Somali Republic....just to name one. Now speak as individuals, speak for yourself...as a Xiin, Sophist, Castro, Che, Centy, Farax. Ok folks let me ask teh question again. What are your breaking points on the situation in Somalia. Lets find out what we want the most and what our stances are...then we can look for a compromise. So play by the rules please. Don't hide behind entities or groups, give me your personal opinions.

But the number of people regularly using Jaad it has been dimished.

Yes Khat causes mental illnesses, the damn thing should be banned.

Hold up Dauud, there are one kind of Somali's and they are called Somali. There are no Oromo's Bantu's Bajuunis, Boni's...Just Somalis. Dadkan la kala saar saarayo maxaa waaye? MMA is right, the correct term is Somali.

Ok now you all made you opening comments. I would like to hear the core issues that needs to be addressed for you AS INDIVIDUALS for you to believe in any Somali government. What are the issues that you believe are non-negotiable for you. For me for example are the territorial integrity of the Somali Republic....just to name one. Now speak as individuals, speak for yourself...as a Xiin, Sophist, Castro, Che, Centy, Farax.

BBC Africa Deadly shoot-out with Kenyan sect Kenya's secretive sect Police in the Kenyan capital, Nairobi, have shot and killed 21 people in a gun battle with suspected members of the banned Mungiki sect. Police say their officers engaged "a gang of thugs" resisting an operation to recover firearms stolen from three policemen who were killed on Monday. Several weapons are said to have been recovered and some policemen injured. Last week, the president warned Mungiki activities would no longer be tolerated and ordered a shoot-to-kill policy. Police spokesman Eric Kiraithe said the morning shoot-out took place in the Mathare district of Nairobi - a run down industrial sector. He said police have cordoned off a large area of the slum reputed to host criminal gangs in the city. "Security officers during the operation met with resistance from a crowd of armed people who fired at the officers leading to the shoot-out and most of them were killed," Mr Kiraithe told the BBC News website. Three pistols, machetes and other crude weapons were recovered from the slain suspects and from several houses that were ransacked by the police's feared paramilitary wing, he said. On Monday night, three police officers were killed while on patrol on foot in the Mathare slums. They were robbed of their AK-47 rifles. The security forces in Kenya have spent the past three months trying to crack down on criminal elements in the Mungiki - a sect which it is claimed runs an extensive extortion operation and is reported to have connections high up in Kenya politics. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6722113.stm

^my bet is on the second from the left

I agree with that, but we are playing the same old bandow game. Everyone that doesn't get his way will spoil it for everyone else. We all see whats happening only those deluding themselves don't see whats up. So recognizing the situation is not the issue, the solution to our problem, where we want to head, what future we want for our nation and our country is where we are in conflict about. So again I agree with you that all of Somalia is under occupation today. Now what? Sophist, join the debate. Xiin Horn Che Badacase everyone else you are all more them welcome to share your lama taano.