Casiirkii ayaa af ingriiskaagi ku ciyaaray ayaan u malaynayaa. I don't feel like in aan kuu jiljilciyo. Markale ku celi hadii aad donaysid in aad fahantid waxaan qoray.

Norf read again what i wrote, that will save you time asking questions.

Originally posted by Northerner: ^^Not everyone is/was a spy saxib. If innocents are being targetted by the ONLF then it needs to be told. I'm looking for facts here. Were these 'attacks' carried out? If so, who died? etc Sxb this is a liberation struggle, the ONLF does not make it its policy to target innocent civilians. There are allot of spies in the region and those spies should be targetted and punished. If the people killed are innocent then those responsible should be brought to justice by the ONLF. Hadhwanaag wasn't reporting on the brutality of the recent xabash crack downs. The xabash killings, rapins and burning of entire villages. But they come here reporting on these so-called killings by the ONLF. Look even at the numbers that these hadhwanaag folks are claiming 7 and 11. How many did the xabash kill? why don't they report on that?

I am Somali so that should say enough Gorilla.

Even if the ONLF killed few collaborators so what? There are many Somali spies who work for the xabash. Its a war people not a picknic and blood will be shed.

Hadhwanaag maxaa kaloo laga filayay. ONLF waa rag u dagaalamaya xornimada umada Soomaaliyeed. Viva ONLF!

The hospital was built by the diaspora of Buuhoodle and the foreign docters are brought and paid by the diaspora of Buuhoodle, it has nothing to do with the secessionists.

MMA your right on that.....qabiils started of as Isbahaysis.....and you can stil see those movements....too many examples of whole clans that changed alliances and joined other groups. There are also the assimilation of small groups. And hadii dadka qaarkood ay wali leeyihiin carab ayaan nahay, ama asalkeenu yahay......sheekadan ah in qabiilku uu isbahaysi yahay lagama dhaadhicin karo.

Lixda koos ee reer Cali-garee kow iga siiyey, Kasi waaye wuxu waa qabaal waadna kabataane!......lol, you gots jokes Baashi.

Armuu Asmara aadaa? Duke ana waxaan kaa filayay in aad odhan lahayd Somalia won

Armuu Asmara aadaa?

mix and match soomaaha......

ceeb indeed...but hey its a winning formula. Try it sometimes sheekhow...it might give a break from SOL

I am Rick james B*Tch.

Gacmadheere.

sidaas ayaa lagaa rabaa

Originally posted by SheekhaJacaylka: ha kugu taagnaato loooooooool ma la caytamayaa? Maxaa ku xelay sheekhow?

That picture too good to be photoshopped sheekhow.....and if it is then that photoshopper is very talented.

Why don't the secessionist militia's push through before the TFG reinforcements come? I don't get these folks....it seems that these groups are just dancing together.

Cidamadii Dowlada Somalia Oo Isugu Yimi Jiida Ay ku Sugan Yihiin Ciidamada Puntland (Laascaanood}25.10-7 Guutooyin ciidamada dowlada Somalia ah oo kasoo jeeda Maamul Goboleedka Puntland ayaa ka ambabaxay Muqdisho si ay u xoojiyaan ciidamada maamul goboleedka Puntland ee kulaalaya magaalada Laascaanood oo dhowaantan dagaal ku dhex maray ciidamada maamulka labaxay Somaliland . Ciidama dan oo badan koodu kasoo jeedaan gobolada Sool, Sanaag iyo Cayn [sSC] ee xiisada colaadeed ka taagan tahay, ayaa u kolon yaystay iyagoo wata hubka cul-culus iyo fud fududba. Ciidamadan waxay ku sii jeedaan Laascaanood si ay u xoojiyaan ciidamo puntland ay ku doonayso inaydib ugu hanato Laascaanood oo hada noqotay mid laga qaxay oo dad keedana ay u barakaceen dhinaca Puntland iyo Hawdka. Laascaanood waxaa ku hareeraysan ciidamo iska soo horjeeda . Sidoo kale ciidamadan ka tirsan dowlada somalia ee kusii jeeda gobolada puntland oo tiro ahaan aad u xoogan ayaa la sheegay inay dhamaan markoodii hore ka yimaadeen gobolada Puntland. Ciidamadan oo hub, saanad, iyo sahay ba sita, ayaa waxaa la sheegay inay dagaal kala hor tegi doonaan ciidamada Somaliland oo dhowaan weerar dagaal kusoo qaaday magaalada Laascaanood ee gobolka Sool . Sida ay xaqiijinayaan warar laga helayo saraakiisha ciidamada dowlada somalia ayaa sheegaya inay ciidamadaasi wataan baabuur tekniko ah, qaar gaashaaman iyo weliba hubkii culusaa ay Xamar kaga hawl-galeen, iyagoo haddana olole xooggan ku qaadi doona ciidamda labaxay Somaliland. Ololahaan ballaadhan ay ciidamada Puntland kaga soo hor jeedaan ciidamada Somaliland ayaa noqonaya mid taariikhda gala hadba go'aanka dagaalka ka soo baxa. Saadaalin natiijada dagaal kan lama sameen karo, laakiin waxaa la hubaa inuu yahay dagaal kala bax ah. Widhwidh Online News Desk Media Center

I sometimes don't understand you guys. There is no point argueing about these things, Somalia's problems will be solved by gun not by talking and understanding. Everyone of us has his views, so lets those in Somalia solve their differences in teh traditional way and for those here who want some action lets hold a SOL Battle Royale. Fahiye I could swear that Norf leans towards the secessionist camp.

Somalis back ex-president in prize bid By Mark Doyle BBC News, Kenya The cow impersonator began moo-ing gently, but then gradually got more and more enthusiastic. Soon, the man was moo-ing and moaning at the top of his voice - or, rather, at the top of a cow's voice - and everyone in the neighbourhood was beginning to gather round. Since this performance was for my benefit, and I was a guest in a foreign land, I began to get a little nervous. Could this loud and bizarre noise, I wondered, offend some local sensitivity? Was impersonating cows against any religious beliefs? But as the cacophony continued, everyone who had gathered round began laughing and grinning. The cow impersonator and performer had them all in the palm of his hand - or perhaps I should say his hoof. I was in a tiny music shop in the Eastleigh quarter of the Kenyan capital Nairobi, a part of the city dominated by Somalis. The cow performer, Mustafa Haji Ilmi, is a Somali musician and political satirist well known in Eastleigh. The population here is a mixture of ethnic Somalis of Kenyan nationality and refugees from the Somali wars just over the Kenyan border. The satirical "Cow Song" portrays Somalis as blindly following their clan leaders into war - like cattle. Listening to it was part of my research into which former African president might win the $5m Mo Ibrahim Prize for Good Governance. Former President Abdulkassim Hassan of Somalia is one of the candidates. I had travelled to Kenya to ask the Somali community there what they thought of his chances. The prize, due to be announced on 22 October in London, is to be paid in tranches over 10 years, then $200,000 per annum for life thereafter. It will be awarded for promoting democracy, transparency and good governance and is due to be awarded every year. As a financial incentive to rule well, the prize is unprecedented. Endless wars Former President Hassan ruled Somalia through a Transitional National Government which was appointed in 2000 by a gathering of exiled clan leaders in Djibouti. He hung on until 2004 when another government was formed by clans meeting in Nairobi. In English the phrase we would use to translate the essence of the "Cow Song" would be "following like sheep". But in Somalia wealth is measured in terms of other livestock. In the song, the cows mock human beings. Some of the lyrics were loosely translated for me: "What are you doing?", the cows ask the Somali people, to a jaunty musical beat. "Why are you following your leaders blindly into conflict?" "We cows, we are doing our job," the cattle continue. "We are as good as - if not better than - European cows. We make milk and meat just like them." "But you, the Somali people, you are not like other people." And, as the beat continues and the moo-ing reaches a crescendo - "You are messing up by following your leaders blindly into killing each other." "You are more like cattle than us! Moooooo!, Moooooo!" By now, everyone in the little music shop was falling over with laughter. I had never seen so many Somalis having such fun. But the satirical Cow Song is also about tragedy - the tragedy of the seemingly endless wars which have engulfed Somalia since the ousting in 1991 of the long-time dictator, Siad Barre. Somalia is a unique African country in that it only has one ethnic group - the Somalis. But this homogeneity is ruptured by clans and sub clans which can be as small as an extended family or large enough to encompass a whole geographic region. It is these clans which fight each other in Somalia - traditionally for control of resources like water, but in the modern world for strategic installations like ports or airports. In recent years religious groupings have added to, and overlapped, some of the clan disputes. On this evidence, Somalia is perhaps not a country which is likely to produce a winner in the Mo Ibrahim Prize for best recently-retired African president. Every sub-Saharan African head of state who left office between 2004 and 2006 is automatically eligible for consideration by the judges. The judges include former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, Unesco Special Adviser Aicha Bah Diallo, retired Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari, and former Nigerian Foreign Minister Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala. 'Good man' I had thought the Somali community in places like Eastleigh - and in the refugee camp in the Kenyan town of Dadaab near the Somali border - would be completely dismissive of the candidacy of Mr Hassan. This was not because of any inside information I had about the man himself, but because of the manifest failure of Somali politicians in general to resolve the country's problems. But I was wrong. In Dadaab, I spoke to a group of schoolboys in the refugee camp: "Mr Hassan was a good man, and religious", said one of the teenage boys. "He was a good man, but people stood against what he was achieving for tribalist reasons." It struck me as amazing, in this filthy, sand blown refugee camp - where some of these teenagers had been born 16 years ago - that anyone would have a good word to say about any Somali politician at all. But another boy said of Mr Hassan; "He was a good leader". "He tried to rule well," the boy continued. "But he did not have the right people working alongside him". Back in Nairobi, a former government minister and leader of the *** clan, Mohamud Uluso, also had encouraging words for the former president: "He tried, but he was opposed by those around him." "He may have tried," I countered, "but he didn't end the war, so how can he possibly be a serious candidate for a leadership prize?" "I do not think," Mr Uluso said, "that in the Somali context you will get a better leader." It appears to amount to this: Abdulkassim Salad Hassan did not stop the war. But he did not start a new one either. The message I was getting was that, in the Somali context, that is not bad going. Cows, coups and clan warfare - all these would seem to augur against the possibility of former President Hassan winning the prize. But a random selection of Somalis I spoke to surprised me by saying he deserved consideration. The organisers of the prize promise there will be no advance leaks. So we will have to wait until the 22 October ceremony in London hosted by Kofi Annan, to know the winner. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7053085.stm

Ciidamada Puntland oo markale laga soo daadguraynayo Mogadishu xili dowladu aad ugu baahantahay Warkii 24-Oct-2007 iyo Qormadii: CC hargoole Cutubyo ka tirsan ciidamada dowladda Somalia ee laga keenay deegaanada Puntland gaar ahaan gobolka Sool ayaa laga soo daadguraynayaa magaalada Mogadishu xili madaxwayne c/laahi yuusuf uu aad ugu baahan yahay ciidamo dheeri ah oo ka yimaado maamul goboleedka Soomaaliyeed ee Puntland si uu ugu xaqiijiyo jiritaanka xukuumada dib u heshiisiinta Somalida ee ay hada la dageen khilaafaadka la xidhiidha dhaqaalaha laga helay dowladaha shisheeye.......... Sida warku sheegayo ciidamada ka soo jeeda degaannada Puntland ee ka tagay Muqdisho ayaa qorsheynaya in ay ku biiraan ciidamada maamulka Puntland oo sida la sheegay qorsheynaya inay weerar rogaal celin ah ay dib ugu qabsadaan magaalada Laascaanood, halkaas dhawaan ay la wareegeen ciidamo ka tirsan maamulka Somaliland oo dagaal ba’an la galay ciidamada Maamulka Puntland Soo daad guranta ciidamada Puntland ee joogay k/Somalia ayaa timid ka dib markii uu madaxwayne cadde muuse si is daba jooga u codsaday in dib loogu soo cesho kumanaankii ciidamada puntland ee ay dowlada Somalia ka qaadatay jiida adhi-cadeeye xiligii ay dagaalka ba’an kula jirtay xoogagii maxaakiimta islaamiga ee laga awooda roonaaday.. Qayb ka mid ah ciidamada puntland ee joogay Mogadishu ayaa si iskood ah isaga soo baxay ka dib markii Somaliland soo dul kulaashay xarunta gobolka Sool ee laascaanood badhtamihii bisha barakaysan ee Ramadaanka xiligaas oo ay ciidamada Puntland soo baneeyeen fadhiisimadii 5ta sano la isku horfadhiyey iyadaan wax dagaal ahi dhicin.. C.C Hargoole Afnugaal.com Hargoole11@hotmail.com Info@afnugaal.com

^sheekadu ma 'if' ayee gaadhay?

Or check this topic on the somali national anthem http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=004207