^Well I was hoping that the German version was an official version. I didn't expect another bogus site

^You did not read the article yet you want to comment on it....typical I would advise you to read it first, then comment on it.

^You don't get much and thats why I will leave this to the readers.

Ibti, one is lying if the source and the claim are not the same. Jbro claimed that Germany is talking about Somaliland and posted an article that should show that Germany is atleast talking about Somaliland. The article didn't show that, and that means he lied. So the lie and the source are two seperate issues. First he lied and then he used a bogus source to cover up his lie. I hope that you understand this discussion now. ps. I like your hypocracy, you are telling me to shup up, while you are not addressing those that post lies here

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: who is lying here now ?? ,,,,,, where is the promised translation of the article ?? just admit Suldaanka posted the right translation and that is it. You can't do it ,, stop the galgalashada and you would be better off ignoring the topic ,, we would understand ,, Suldaan posted the same lie you posted but then in German. You still lied. You claimed that the German Government is talking about Somaliland. Yet, we have no evidence of that on the GTZ site nor the German federal government whose links I have posted earlier. The only source that you guys could come up with is the http://www.german-foreign-policy.com and I am sorry to tell you but, that site can not be taken serious. I have posted for you few articles that show what the level of that site is. So I ask you again, why have you lied to us? Why do you post lies on this forum? Come up with credible sources.

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: quote:Originally posted by me: quote: Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: So you have no choice but to ignore the current topic and post two more topics from nowhere just to cover up ............ I sometimes feel for you sxb ..... Jbro you lied and your source was weak. I read the article posted by Suldaanka and the fantastical story you posted. Your source is weak to put it mildly. So read horta waxa meesha ku qoran. ps. You have been caught lying 3 times now Waar ilayn Indho Adayg waa kanoo kele ,,,,,, show xataa in yar oo qajilaad ah ma lihid. Maxaa ku dhacay article kii aad lahayd waan translate garaynayaa ?? Why translate an article that is bogus anyway. Look at the source horta. the source thats claiming that the Ethiopian government is infiltrated by german agents and that Ethiopia is fooled by the Germans.

^So you rather have them lying to us day in day out?

Originally posted by AYOUB: ^^ 1-year-old article proves what? I can't believe you decided to show your "German" face in this thread again... Iqa qalee dheh nooh

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: So you have no choice but to ignore the current topic and post two more topics from nowhere just to cover up ............ I sometimes feel for you sxb ..... Jbro you lied and your source was weak. I read the article posted by Suldaanka and the fantastical story you posted. Your source is weak to put it mildly. So read horta waxa meesha ku qoran. ps. You have been caught lying 3 times now

So in your fair judgment, do you think that this source has anything to do with the German Government? Ask yourself why would these secessionist supporters lie to us every day? What compels them to lie?

I couldn't resist. After reading the fantastic story Jbro posted and the even funnier story that Suldaanka posted. I looked for other articles by the same source. Read and make your own judgement. I read this in the article (Germany wants to colonize Somalia and Ethiopia) Adequate Persistence2007/03/27 MOGADISHU/BERLIN(german-foreign-policy.com) - The German EU Council Presidency has announced aid for the Somali "transitional government" put in place by western powers, to finance a reconciliation conference. In accordance with the wishes of Berlin and Brussels, this conference will take place in Mogadishu in mid-April, with the intention of stabilizing the so-called transitional government, divide the opposition and therefore, in the long run, keep anti-western forces from regaining power in Somalia. This "transitional government" is but a civilian extension of the Ethiopian occupation forces, which provides the German government with new means of gaining influence. For several years, Germany has been extending its influence in Ethiopia and currently has an excellent position. If the Ethiopian occupation regime is a failure, it is expected that the country will irretrievable split along the lines of the former colonial borders. Germany had, years ago, already established its influence in the region of a potential secession called "Somaliland" by helping to build the infrastructure. The outbreak of violence that took place on the first weekend in April, again causing numerous deaths, is a confirmation of the fears of German government advisers, who consider the Mogadishu transitional government to be very frail. The so-called transitional government was put in power by Ethiopian occupation forces. Many Somalis reject this regime because of the traditional Somali-Ethiopian conflicts. Observers [1] note that furthermore, the transitional government is relying on a power base, that, because of the complicated Somali social structure, is considered to be completely insufficient. The regime is comprised only of members of one minority clan, completely excluding the country's largest clan (the ******). Proxies In view of the imminent defeat in Afghanistan and Iraq, Western states do not currently want to station their own occupation troops in Somalia and rely rather on proxies. Because of the presence of heavily armed Somali warlords, it would seem unlikely that the forces of the African Union will be able to keep the "transitional government" in power. As in Kabul and Baghdad, if the proxy regime in Mogadishu falls, the transfer of power will go to emphatic anti-Western forces. Inclusion Fearing another defeat, the German EU Council Presidency is demanding that the "transitional government" rapidly change its policy. "In the spirit of national reconciliation", the government should neutralize large sectors of the Somali society, thereby splitting the opposition. Dissident forces are increasingly taking up arms. Berlin and Brussels are demanding the initiation of "a political and institutional process" and "the large-scale inclusion of all important parties," not only "the clan eldest, Islamic leaders" and "business representatives" but also "civil society" representatives - which, from experience, are known to be tied on the leash of the EU. "The EU is prepared to support this process both financially and politically."[2] Reconciliation The "transitional government" obediently announced that it would convene a "National Reconciliation Conference" in mid-April. According to Berlin, pro-Western forces can only be kept in power in Mogadishu through this policy of inclusion. Assistance The forces of the "transitional government", that the German government wants to keep in power, has been supported by Berlin for years. Its creation in Kenyan exile is thanks to German assistance. Later, the German government impelled its African protégés to leave Kenya to set up office in Somalia - a step, the "transitional government" had for a long time avoided, because of its lack of support.[3] At present Germany assists the Ethiopian occupation, that put the Somali government into power, with generous financial support in the hopes of preventing hunger revolts of the war refugees. Since the beginning of the three month old Ethiopian invasion, the German foreign ministry has allotted 2.8 Million Euros, which already exceeds the financial support rendered during all of 2006. German Aid Government circles of several western nations are already seeking alternatives in case current efforts at securing influence in Somalia should fail. Washington as well as Berlin are again focusing their attention on that part of the country that had formerly been a British colony: "Somaliland" in the northwest of the country.[4] "Somaliland" is considered to be relatively stable, in contrast to Southern Somalia and particularly its capital, Mogadishu. German development agencies and the Federal Agency for Technical Relief (THW) aided extensively in building the infrastructure, thereby securing for Berlin a certain influence in "Somaliland". This included the reconstruction of a central road connecting Ethiopia and the deep-sea port of Berbera ("Somaliland"). This project is particularly beneficial to Ethiopia. The occupying power does not dispose of its own commercial harbor, and, since 1997, is dependant upon the use of the port facilities in Djibouti. In Mai 2005, Addis Abeba concluded a treaty with "Somaliland" concerning the use of the deep-sea port Berbera. The road, that had been reconstructed with German aid opened the possibility for the transit transport.[5] (An enlarged map depicting German influence in the Horn of Africa: click here.) German Advisers It is obvious that Ethiopia is being exploited to serve the interests of German foreign policy. Under the provisions of the so called development policy, German organizations, for the past two years, have been deploying hundreds of advisers to this East African country - to occupy key positions in the administration and business.[6] While many German development aid workers have to content themselves with restructuring the Ethiopian educational system or conducting urban and regional planning, some are designated for more exclusive jobs in that African country.[7] In September 2005, The Centrum für internationale Migration und Entwicklung (CIM) in Frankfurt advertised a job offer as "adviser to the (Ethiopian) Speaker of Parliament". The German Association for Technical Cooperation (GTZ) recently advertised a similarly interesting job offer, as an "adviser" to the Lord Mayor of the capital Addis Abeba. The German applicant should have "intercultural experience" and"a high degree of patience." "In dealing with representatives of a mainly traditional society, one must have prudence, dexterity and adequate perseverance."[8] Das Kartenmaterial entstammt den Wikimedia Commons und steht unter der GNU-FDL. Bearbeitung: german-foreign-policy.com. [1] Alte Karten neu gemischt. Stabilität kann in Somalia nur durch eine repräsentative Regierung erreicht werden; SWP-Aktuell 4. Januar 2007 [2] Erklärung der Präsidentschaft der EU zur Lage in Somalia; GASP Erklärung 23.03.2007 [3] see also Sehr gut [4] Im Gegensatz zum größeren Teil des heutigen Somalia, das italienische Kolonie war, gehörte "Somaliland" zu Großbritannien. [5] see also Sehr gut [6] see also Key positions, Regionale Hegemonialmacht, Indispensable Rights and Governance Aspects [7] see also Berater [8] Stellenangebote:Äthiopien - Gemeinnütziger Bereich; www.gtz.de Check these two links if your interested in more fantastic stories. http://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/fulltext/56061 http://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/fulltext/56043

seance?

I think something is fishy here.

Ilaahay ha u naxariisto. Look to me that this was not just another car accident. Puntland has lost allot of military men lately in car accidents. Kaarshe, Dayr's accident and now Taar. All in the area of Garowe.

Xoogsade, AY is in the eyes of the world the president of Somalia. I rather see the president of Somalia dead, then seeing him being slapped. When I say this I am defending the office of the president of Somalia, not AY. Imagine seeing the Somali flagn being burned by Ethiopians. (yes they are burning whole cities I know, but bare with me) This Somali flag is also the flag that the TFG uses. Does the use of the flag by the TFG make it another flag that we shouldn't care about? AY can be lampooned, but the office of the president of Somalia can't.

Waryaadhaheen ama iska suga ama is diyaariya, balaayaad doonateene Jbro - well done start your crying before I even started . Che - kuwan naac naacdooda lagama nasan karo ilaa meel la fadhiisiiyo. About the piece you posted. The kidnapping scare goed on in Somaliland The international comite of the red cross is worried about the lives of the 10 coworkers who were kidnapped last wednesday. A spokesperson for the relief organisation said in Geneva that the situation is very serious. At the same time the spokes person critisized the showing of the kidnapped before tv cameras. Under the kidnapped is a German national. The latest information from the kidnappers is that they demanded a ranson of 100.000 dollars. They threatn to kill the kidnapped if this ransom is not paid in 24 hours time.

Thanx horn I was lookin for this video. I first saw it on universal tv.... wow those folks can dance. I didn't know somali traditional dance was this good till I saw that video.

Hhahahahahhaha, thanx suldaanka.... btw I speak german I will translate in full this when I have more time. SOMALISCHE PROVINZ SOMALILAND But I tell you I will have a field day with this

So far at 14.674 Follow the smallest block.

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: quote:Originally posted by me: ^how about mr. Wrong? Yeah that is you ,,,,,,,,,,, How would that info be of any use for you?....... unless .......in that case, I kinda dig women

^how about mr. Wrong?

^What do you get? Well LSk will send you a bill. The first 1000 posts are on the house, anything above that you will be charged per word.

CL - welcome to the prestiguious 1000 + post club. fatboy...lol

So do you have the German version? or any version of this story that seems credible? If you don't have it, we can safely conclude, that you have been caught lying again.

looooooooooooooooooolzzz Is this all you got to say when you have been caught lying for the 3rd time It is sad to catch a grown man lying day in day out. ps. My likes appreciate the truth and yes we don't like lies or liars.