With the technology of today everyone can be a xildhibaan. We can have a parliament of 20 million people and we will vote with our computers. IT peoples can you do this?

Originally posted by Norf 1: They fired on a ship being hijacked! Norf that’s what you get when the proper procedures are not followed. 13 civilians may have lost their lives now.

Indian navy 'sank Thai trawler' The owner of a Thai fishing trawler has said the Indian navy sank it off Somalia's coast last week after wrongly assuming it was a pirate "mother ship". Wicharn Sirichaiekawat said the Indian frigate had attacked the Ekawat Nava 5 while it was being hijacked by pirates. He said one of the crew had been found alive after six days in the Gulf of Aden, but that another 14 were missing. The Indian navy has insisted the vessel fired in self-defence at a pirate ship which had been stacked with explosives. Almost 40 ships have been seized by Somali pirates so far this year. Earlier, the authorities in Yemen confirmed pirates had captured a cargo ship carrying building material off the country's coast. They said the pirates were demanding a ransom of $2m (£1.3m). The latest incident came days after the Saudi oil tanker, Sirius Star, was hijacked. It was earlier moved further north up the Somali coast. 'Self-defence' Mr Wicharn told reporters in Bangkok that the Ekawat Nava 5 had been headed from Oman to Yemen last Tuesday to deliver fishing equipment when it was approached by Somali pirates in two speed boats in the Gulf of Aden. We fired in self-defence and in response to firing upon our vessel Commodore Nirad Sinha Indian Navy spokesman The pirates were in the process of boarding the vessel and seizing control when the Indian navy frigate, the INS Tabar, sailed into view and demanded it stop for investigation, he added. "The sunken ship which the Indian navy claimed was a 'mother ship' of pirates was not the 'mother ship' at all," he said. "The pirates wanted to take our ship to Somalia." Mr Wicharn said he had learnt the fate of his trawler from a Cambodian crew member who had survived the INS Tabar's bombardment and had been rescued by a passing ship after six days adrift in the Indian Ocean. The sailor was now recovering in a hospital in Yemen, he said. Later, an Indian navy spokesman insisted that the Tabar had fired only upon a pirate "mother ship" which had threatened it. "We fired in self-defence and in response to firing upon our vessel. It was a pirate vessel in the international waters and its stance was aggressive," Commodore Nirad Sinha told CNN. Following last week's incident, the Indian navy said in a statement that the Tabar had spotted a pirate vessel while patrolling 285 nautical miles (530km) south-west of Salalah, Oman. It said those on board had been armed with guns and rocket-propelled grenade launchers. When it demanded the vessel stop for investigation, the pirate ship had responded by threatening to "blow up the naval warship if it closed on her", the statement said. The pirates then fired on the Tabar, after which the Indians retaliated and there was an explosion on the pirate vessel, which then sank, it added. India is one of several countries currently patrolling the Gulf of Aden, one of the world's busiest shipping lanes. France, India, South Korea, Russia, Spain, the US and Nato also have a presence in the region. Story from BBC NEWS:

Ngonge, Why didn't you use the secessionists as an example? Why are you using al shabaab as an example? It it obvious that Ngonge whats to smear the name of alshabaab. Ngonge your name as been noted down. Falalka foosha xun ee aad wadid jooji.

Samir iyo iimaan sxb, aan yara sugno maalin dhow waa la labeen doonaaye.

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ Are you 'ready', me? Ready kulaha, I am expired. Dhalinta yari barxadan ha iskeento.

No I didn't vet them, but I heard it is a good place for such business.

SOL

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Norf the article only shows how out of touch you are. The casiir got to you. You don't show any sympathy for the Somali people affected by the illegal actions of foreign nations stealing fish from Somali waters and repaying us and future genarations of Somalis with toxic waste that will cause damage to health and environment. And you are still here defending the unlawfull attacking of a Somali ship by the Indian navy, which possibly cost the lives of the crew members. Sxb just because the media says so it doesn't mean it is right. Wake up and smell the coffee, otherwise the next time you want to take a swim on a beach in Somalia you might come out of the water without skin (carab baad u eekaan.....could this be meesha aad u socotid?). I know perfectly well (the media told me) that some of the hijackings of ships was in international waters and it was illegal too. But if this means that these attacks will focus attention on Somalia and the enviromental problems caused then it is well worth it.

For Norf - Read this article from the BBC. 'World only cares about pirates' Ex-Somali Army Colonel Mohamed Nureh Abdulle lives in Harardhere - the town closest to where the hijacked Saudi oil tanker, Sirius Star is moored. He tells the BBC, via phone from his home, that the town's residents are more concerned about the apparent dumping of toxic waste than piracy. The Harardhere-born military man advises the town's elders on security matters and is in his fifties. Somalia has been wracked by conflict since 1991 - when its last national government was forced from power. The super-tanker is close to our coast. It is a very, very long ship. Some time ago we had our own problems of piracy in our town but that has not happened lately. The people who have been hijacking these ships in our seas are not from our region. We do not know any of the guys on the super-tanker and they haven't made any contact with us. You know, our problem is not piracy. It is illegal dumping. These problems have been going for sometime and the world knows about it. The Americans have been here in the region for a long time now - they know about the pollution. Instead, no, the world is only talking about the pirates and the money involved. Mysterious illnesses Meanwhile, there has been something else going on and it has been going on for years. There are many dumpings made in our sea, so much rubbish. It is dumped in our seas and it washes up on our coastline and spreads into our area. A few nights ago, some tanks came out from the high sea and they cracked it seems and now they are leaking into the water and into the air. The first people fell ill yesterday afternoon. People are reporting mysterious illnesses; they are talking about it as though it were chicken pox - but it is not exactly like that either. Their skin is bad. They are sneezing, coughing and vomiting. This is the first time it has been like this; that people have such very, very bad sickness. The people who have these symptoms are the ones who wake early, before it is light, and herd their livestock to the shore to graze. The animals are sick from drinking the water and the people who washed in the water are now suffering. Isolated We are people who live in a very remote town and here, we are isolated; we only rely on God. This town is close to the sea. It is a very old town which has a mixture of Somali clans. It is not big but it has a well-knit community. Our community used to rely on fishing. But now no-one fishes. You see, a lot of foreign ships were coming and they were fishing heavily - their big nets would wipe out everything, even the fishermen's equipment. They could not compete. So the people here began farming and keeping greater numbers of livestock. Like in any other Somali town, all one can do is rely on oneself. But now we have these medical hazards. What can we do about it? Source

^Alien tartiibso. Soomaali ha aflagaadeen. Expertska u daa.

BeeGee 1. The exact date when the neighbourhood watch was set up is not known but it took place in the mid 90’s after experiencing the negative impact of illegal fishing by trawlers from other countries in Somali waters. 2. Pirate is a negative word with a historic baggage does not apply in this Somali context. Let’s refer to them as Somali Citizens for Maritime Protection (SCMP). 3. The police fines speeding motorists and collects allot of money that way, which could be termed as a get rich quick scheme too. 4. It is the duties of all Somalia citizens to enforce Somali laws in Somalia and that includes detaining parties engaged in illegal activities inside Somali waters. In the US it’s called Citizens Arrest I believe.

Hold on here. There is no need for 'waxaa la yiri stuff’ and I am not justifying anything. You are the one justifying Indian action and I am just correcting you, don’t forget that. 1. Are you denying that illegal fishing has been taking place in Somali waters since the fall of the military regime? Do Somali fishermen have the right to protect their livelihoods against these criminal gangs that are active in Somali waters? 3. Are you denying there has been illegal dumping of toxic waste in Somali waters? Do Somali fishermen have the right to protect their livelihoods against these criminal gangs that are active in Somali waters? If you say that the fishermen have the right to engage the criminals that are operating in Somali waters, then which course of action do you suggest to be taken? Should the Somali fishermen write to Greenpeace? Or should they discourage illegal fishing and toxic dumping in our waters? After you have answered that, let move to the attack by the Indian ship. You said: From the article they fired on the Indian warship FIRST. Again, the Indian warship is entitled to stop them and ask questions if they suspect they are pirates. 'Fishermen' don't travel more than 200 nautical miles to catch fish. They're not armed with RPGs and AKs. Well who are we to judge the fishing methods of Somali fishermen? Some fishermen use trawlers, Somali fishermen obviously use other methods. Many fishermen around the world use dynamite to fish. Being armed in international waters is not illegal, otherwise the Indians shouldn’t be armed either. Fishermen travel more then 200 nautical miles to catch fish, otherwise how do you explain Taiwanese fishing trawlers of the coast of Somalia? They were obviously armed!!! It seems they were not armed enough otherwise this incident wouldn’t take place.

BeeGee, you make a good point. A tense situation in Southall will be made worse. Norf, let’s get the facts straight here. 1. Ships from many countries have been doing illegal activities in Somali waters. 2. Somali fishermen decided in the absence of a central state in Somalia that they should protect their livelihood and their environment against criminal gangs operating of the Somali waters who engage in illegal fishing and the dumping of toxic waste. 3. These fishermen formed cooperative groups that patrol the Somali sees. 4. When these Somali fishermen encounter ships that have entered Somali waters illegally they stop them, tow the ship and detain the crew pending further investigation and if necessary the owners of the ships are fined. 5. The crews are treated humanely and the ships are returned including cargo. Now let’s look at what happened during the encounter between the Somali fishermen and the Indian Navy ship. From what we can gather from the news. A Somali fisher’s boat in international waters was sunk by an Indian Navy ship. Now take a moment and think, A) Was this boat doing any illegal activities other then to be a Somali boat in international waters? B) Did this boat pose any threat to the Indian Navy ship? If the answer to those two questions is negative, then what gives the Indian ship the right to sink that ship?

Norf - What are international ships doing in Somali waters? Shouldn't these ships be boarded, towed to friendly ports, investigated and fined if found guilty? Secondly NGONGE makes a point, the Indian action was unlawfull because no investigation was done. For all we could know, they were fisher men fishing in international waters.

^ India doesn't adhere to maritime rules of engagements when it engages weaker parties. But it stays well clear of stronger parties. So why should the pirates adhere to maritime rules of engagement? What gives India the right to shoot first and ask questions later? Which laws? And if India breaks maritime laws by shooting first then asking questions later, what makes the difference between India and the Pirates? The pirates are at least treating those that are in their custody humanely, while India is killing and maiming weaker parties that it engages.

Obama being the president of the United States is already a change. This process of the emancipation of black people in America is a gradual process. As you can see America has come a long way from the 1960's. Obama being president opens allot of doors that would otherwise be closed for black people in America and it inspires everyone in the world that those that work hard and persevere can achieve anything they set their minds to. It’s a powerful dream that American dream. Think of all those billions of people in this world with only hopes and dreams. Who will they look to for leadership? Ps. Just take the blue pill

What makes you say that? And whats better for the world and for Somalia? a strong America or a weak America?

Malcolm X rocks The Ballot or the Bullet Mr. X said the ballot or the bullet and Obama got it through the ballot. So how is Obama betraying Malcolm's legacy? Mr. Caveman is angry that Obama is an inspirational leader that can get America on the right path to fulfill it's destiny. We all believe in the American dream, let's hope that Obama makes this dream possible for the whole world. The American dream is the ideal, every country strives to be like America if not better. Even Mr. Caveman dreams to be in America and drink Coca Cola and take a giant bite of a juicy Big Mac. Let's hope that Obama can truly earn to be the leader of the World. Let's hope that he doesn't sell out. Let's hope that he can be the one to free the oppressed. Let's hope that he is the one that makes this world a more just place, were the rule of law prevails. In the battle of good versus evil, it is the human’s that decide and depending on the moral courage of human beings good or evil will triumph. Let’s hope that the good triumph whatever side they may be on. Obama is as much the heir of Malcolm as he is the heir of Martin.

One positive development at the ministerial gathering was announcement that an 800-strong battalion of Kenyan troops would join the AMISOM peacekeeping force, bringing it up to a strength of about 4,200. It was not clear when the Kenyan troops might be deployed.

Ma soontaa? calan bil iyo xidig leh waad sidataa. Tuug baadna u sacbinaysaa. Xagee bey arintu ka khaldan tahay?

Originally posted by peasant: ^ The somali invasion sends a bell to every smart neighbor of ethiopia. Wouldnt you be concerned if you shared a border with menace like Meles? Ahaa I am sure you do. Not to mention behavioral biologist long suggested, that baboons in the wild don't yawn for nonsense but rather do it deliberately, just to show off its long teeth to the predators. Hmmm, but why should Kenya wait and see while Ethiopia is turning Somalia into a vassal state? Shouldn't Kenya also get its fair share of the spoils?

Originally posted by B_G: quote:Ukraine insisted the deal was "in accordance with international law", and said that the weapons had been sold to Kenya, which it said had already received 77 T-72 tanks from Ukraine in 2007. The Kenyan government later issued a statement confirming that it had purchased the cargo aboard the MV Faina for its military forces. What is Kenya going to do with armour like that? 77 T72? and then another 30?