Originally posted by Qudhac: do you think you are scaring anyway by calling us "jews" of the Horn. Qudac I did not call anyone the jews of the Horn. The article that has been written by a pro-secessionist is titled The Israel in the Horn of Africa. Read is for yourself my friend.

This is no good read it is Kenyans trying to make Somalis look like savages. Look at the title alone, its just sensationalism. It is nothing new a richer man marrying a poor girl. There is no slavery involved here, this has been a part of our culture for centuries and it can be found in many other cultures. -Moroccan people living in the west do it, they go to their country get married there or get a bride there. -Algerians in France do it -Turks in Europe do it -Kurds do it. -Somalis have been doing it for ages Many people have arranged marriages. What do you suggest that these girls never get married and be forever destitute? This man is giving them a good life, taking them out of Garisa where they would have been poor there whole lifes, at least when they come to the west they will have the same freedoms as you have. They will also get a chance to educate them selves or to work.

Tell me what does that letter say that’s any different then what has been coming out from the secessionist media these days? To sum it up -The recognition of Israel in return for diplomatic ties, military and humanitarian assistance. -The renting of Berbera base to the Israeli Navy, who would then have a presence on the south coast of the Arabian Peninsula. Not to mention how close the Israeli Navy would be to the Islamic holy places. All these betrayals just for recognition, I wonder if this is desperation or just hate.

Somaliland: The Israel in the Horn of Africa by Rashid Nur, USA (from awdalnews.com) Somaliland can benefit from the strategies that have helped the State of Israel to prevail against enormous challenges over the past few decades: the constant security threat from neighbors, terrorism against innocent civilians, lack of diplomatic relations with many nations, and unreasonable demands by the international community (UN, EU, OU, and Arab League) are some of the challenges that Israel had to overcome in its modern history – despite the discrimination in Europe and genocide committed by Hitler on Jews. The Republic of Somaliland and its people have been facing the same challenges from its neighbors and international community. Somaliland survived the massacre committed by former dictator Siad Barre’s regime. The biggest security threat to Somaliland’s existence today comes from its neighbors – particularly Somalia. Somaliland is surrounded by nations that do not recognize its existence and are determined to destroy it, such as Somalia, Djibouti, and Eritrea. Egypt and Saudi Arabia have been waging a diplomatic and economic campaign against Somaliland interest. The international community such as UN, AU, EU, Arab League etc places unreasonable demands that are constantly hostile to Somaliland interest, such as numerous UN resolutions that call for the unity and territorial integrity of Somalia, which denies the existence of the Republic of Somaliland. Egypt has used its influence with Arab nations to isolate Somaliland presumably to protect Egyptian interest by ensuring the unity and territorial integrity of Somalia, which Egypt believes will neutralize Ethiopian influence in the region. Saudi Arabia has banned livestock imports from Somaliland, which devastated the local economy in Somaliland. Djibouti and Eritrea have committed to protect the unity of Somalia, and have trained militia that attacks Ethiopia from Somaliland borders, fully aware that Somaliland does not have the capacity to stop all of them at its border. The terrorist organization called Al Jihad organized terrorist cell in Somaliland who murdered five foreign nationals in Somaliland. Fortunately those terrorists were apprehended by Somaliland security and are currently on trial in Hargeisa (Somaliland capital). The international community particularly the United Nations had been demanding Somaliland should negotiate with and reconcile differences with murders, warlords and thugs who do not respect and value the human life, many of whom are responsible for the death of tens of thousands of Somaliland people. This is similar to asking the people of Israel to negotiate and reconcile with the remnants of the Hitler regime. Somaliland is desperately in need of a friend in the international community that can help with the security threat from its neighbors, economic embargo imposed by Saudi Arabia, and recognition for the Republic of Somaliland. The people and the State of Israel is a suitable friend for Somaliland. It is incumbent upon the Somaliland leaders (government, opposition parties, traditional leaders and NGO’s) to work diligently in seeking to establish opportunities that would facilitate relationship with the State of Israel. The Ambassador of Israel in Ethiopia have arranged a humanitarian assistance for young Somaliland boy to have heart surgery in Israeli hospital about a year ago and the entire nation of Somaliland and its people have showed gratitude and appreciation for the gesture. The response from the people showed the positive attitude of the Somaliland people towards Israel. The people of Somaliland are convinced that the Arab countries in the Middle East, Egypt, Djibouti, and Eritrea are committed to do everything in their power to prevent Somaliland recognition. My hope is that Israel will be open to establish friendship and provide security assistance to the people and the Republic of Somaliland. The people of Israel should know that Somaliland had not forgotten that Israel was the first nation to recognize the independence of Somaliland from British Empire on June 26, 1960. Somaliland is once again looking at Israel to lead the international community and offer friendship and security assistance to the Republic of Somaliland. The State of Israel would gain the friendship and the gratitude of the people of Somaliland for decades to come, not to mention the strategic value that Somaliland (access and control of red see) will provide to the interest of Israel. It is incumbent upon the Somaliland leaders (government & opposition parties) to work diligently in seeking recognition from the State of Israel by taking concrete steps to establishing long and lasting relationship with the people and the State of Israel. Somaliland is the Israel in the horn of Africa in terms of the challenges that are facing her today. Needless to say Somaliland needs a friend in the international community and Israel will certainly appreciate the predicament Somaliland is faced with, considering the history of the State of Israel with the same international organizations such as the United Nations and Israel will likely be more accommodating than Egypt and Saudi Arabia in helping Somaliland. The last two Somaliland administrations have both expressed the desire to establish relationship with the State of Israel, but have not done enough to follow it through with their expressed desires. At the same time it is time the Somaliland Diaspora makes contact with the people of Israel, NGO’s, and the diplomatic offices for the State of Israel and encourage them to establish official diplomatic relationship with the Republic of Somaliland. It is time Somaliland seriously evaluates its long term foreign policy in the middle east in general and particularly Israel to protect the interest of Somaliland. Rashid Nur rashidnur@hotmail.com Somaliland: The Israel in the Horn of Africa by Rashid Nur, USA (from awdalnews.com) The State of Israel would gain the friendship and the gratitude of the people of Somaliland for decades to come, not to mention the strategic value that Somaliland (access and control of red see) will provide to the interest of Israel. It is incumbent upon the Somaliland leaders (government & opposition parties) to work diligently in seeking recognition from the State of Israel by taking concrete steps to establishing long and lasting relationship with the people and the State of Israel.

Anigu dhibaato kama qabo afafka qalaad in la isticmaalo. Laakiin anigu waxaan la jiraa in af Soomaaliga la ilaaliyo oo la xushmeeyo. Marka lagu hadlayana in si toosan loogu hadlo. Af ingriiskaba toosanba waa lagu faanaaye, af Soomaali qaloocan in la istcmaalo maxay caado u noqotay?

Allamagan af Soomaali jini qaba kolay waa afSoomaali toosan. Aniga erayada shisheyaha ee afkeena lagu daro wey i dhibaan. Qofku sida uu u hadlo ama sida uu afka u isticmaalo ayaan ku xushmeeyaa. Sida Dadka Danishka ah ba ey afkooda u ilaashadaan oo eyn qof si fiican ugu hadlin afka eyn u siin shaqo anaba waa in aan eegnaa afkeena sidii aan u ilaalin lahayn. Maskaxyari weeyaan dadka afkooda ku ciyaara. Magacayga ME waa soo gaabin aan soo gaabiyay MI'I.

Its not a secret that the secessionists will do anything to get any recognition. I remmber an article that was adverising Berbera base and how it could be usefull to the Isreali Air Force since it was only 42 seconds away from Saudi Arabia and the two Islamic holy places. We are dealing with people who will spare nothing for their cause. That man was right when he said we are the orphans of the queen. Time for Somaliland lawmakers to recognize unilaterally the state of Israel, By Faysal Diriye July 4, 2006 This short is aimed at dwelling on and expanding the smart analysis of Nuradin Hasan (Arab Vs Somaliland) following the Banjul summit where the dispute between Somaliland and Arab countries took on a new dimension. It is true that Somalilanders have long been accustomed to Arab countries unabated misguided policies towards them, and were by and large forewarned about any Arab diplomatic offensive to contain, if not eliminate, the growing political stature of Somaliland. Blinded by the ridiculous attempt of safeguarding their hegemonic Egyptian surrogate when it comes to the use of Nile water resources, Arab countries have never been able refrain from taking sides and to preserve a neutral stance on Somaliland-Somalia relations even on the face of the dismal failure of the unitary Somalia and in total disregard of the interests and aspirations Somaliland people But this is time around, after failing to convince fellow African countries to desert Somaliland, Sudan and Egypt embarked in a very disgraceful grandstanding aimed at bullying fellow countries into restricting SL influence. Anti Somaliland sentiment is therefore tellingly cranked over and following these new developments, I agree with Nuradin on the need of a dramatic shift of Somaliland foreign policy. One should first help one hand, and in my opinion the following actions ought to be considered. A unilateral severance of all relations with Arab countries altogether following a parliamentary debate and vote. During these discussions, it appears important to me not cheapens the issue at hand by mixing Islam in our political and economic decisions and not lose sight of our overriding responsibility : to broke off the Arab diplomatic encirclement. This move probably won't affect the recognition situation by itself but will likely woo fellow Somalilanders into reconsidering new diplomatic options in the wake of the diplomatic reverse inflicted by Arab countries. Unilateral recognition of the state of Israel and establishment of diplomatic relations on ambassador level. Some of us might dubious of any involvement of the Jewish state into Somaliland affairs, but letâ€s keep in mind the high profile support of Israel to the Anyanya movement against Khartoum dictatorship. Chadian rulers, were also helped by Israel to fight off Arab-sponsored rebellions in the late 80â€s. To counterbalance Arab imperialism in East Africa, Israelis took over5 the British presence in Uganda and Tanzania was at one point the largest recipient of Israelis military. And Indeed Somaliland present a huge geo-strategic impor¬tance for a state of Israel in a hostile environment, from securing the Red Sea transit to Israeli ships to developing bilateral military cooperation similar to the Turkey-Israel alliance. Faysal Diriye Ottawa, Canada Faysal Diriye faysaldiriye@yahoo.ca

As it says up there it’s from a group called "Liberty for the Muslim World". An anti-Islamic group It also says ther telephone number and address. Come on don't be shocked, didn’t you know that these guys have long been doing things like this? Couple of weeks ago we had a post about the secessionists praying for the colonial soldiers who died in the fight against the daraawiish while they call the daraawiish ‘Murderous Jihadist Movement’ This quote from Oodweyne’s post today sums it up Originally posted by Oodweyne: quote:Originally Posted By Mr. Qudhac : the "Murderous Jihadist" military campaign of the "Dervishes Movement" and their megalomaniac bloodthirsty leader, namely a certain "very-much-mentally-disturb" wayward gentleman by the name of "Mad Mullah"; against the people and the communities of the British Somaliland Protectorate in the early decades of the 20th century i]...."

Come on diabetes is a lifestyle disease...if they ate less sugary food and more hilib and caano geel like they where made for diabetes wouldn’t affect them.

Knock your self out JLee

Somali long-legged phenotype http://www.validinternational.org/tbx/docs/ACF3931.pdf http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v1/n8/abs/nm0895-810.html Frontal lobe http://www.health.qld.gov.au/abios/tbi/bfrontal.asp Look also at Adaptation and the Form-Function Relation1 CARL GANS NATURE'S PURPOSES: analyses of function and design in biology -Colin Allen http://grimpeur.tamu.edu/~colin/Purposes/intro.html On the issue of natural selection in Somalia. I don't think I have to convince you about that. The statistics speak for themselves. The same also goes for the increasing survival for western babies who live with defects, while their counter parts in Somalia have al ready died. So the Somalis that survive are relatively stronger then their western counterparts who would not have survived without the help of modern science.

hahahahahahahahahahahah@devilangle I mean thats too damn funny. Thanx. I can't write a proper reply because its too funny. I mean like valenteenah said if you want to marry outside the somali race,go right ahead no one stopping you. You made a good case for yourself a someone that is prepared to back their case up like you have done should not be stopped. You know whats funny though, no one can predict what kind of children they will have, you might be running away from certain looks but then they might get diseases that are uncommon with the Somali race. Let me give you a small example. We the Somalis are the product of carefull evolution. We are more adapted to our evironment better then any other race. The main feautures of Somalis. Somali long-legged phenotype, you may also call it tall skinny guy syndrome: well this makes it easier to survive for us in times of hardships and famine. Us Somalis can survive in extreme condition where as most people from other races woudl have died. Big forehead: This is a sign of well developed frontal lobe. The frontal lobes have been found to play a part in impulse control, judgment, language, memory, motor function, problem solving, socialization and spontaneity. Hairless: As you have noticed the majority of the Somali people are not hairy this is mainly because of our desert environment. This makes it easier for us to cool down. The Somali is tough, inventive and resilient. All feautures these make us Somalis FUN plus the forehead makes it easier for us to learn language easier then other people. Somali people are gifted when it comes to learning foreign languages. So we are perfectly addapted to our environment. The Somalis are the products of evolution. So don't think looks only, because its about suvival. I will go for a xalimo with a good pedigree. Plus what kind of hereditery diseases do we Somalis mostly get? Not that many I would say because the weak die young in our nation, only the strong survive. Look at the percentages of kids dying before they reach 10 thats natural selection at work. While these nations are feeding and helping weak kids that would have died if they didnt get any help. We have a healthy race, with superior genes.

I was just listening to the news and they said that the Italian player said something about his mom. Zidanes mom had fallen ill and was taken to the hospital on the games day, so she was on Zidanes mind and this Italian calling his mom a wh-ore made him flip.

Biography of Atatürk Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK FOUNDER AND THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE TURKISH REPUBLIC Atatürk was born in 1881 at the Kocakasım ward of Salonika, in a three story pink house located on Islahhane Street. His father is Ali Rıza Efendi and his mother Zübeyde Hanım. His paternal grandfather, Hafız Ahmed Efendi belonged to the Kocacık nomads who were settled in Macedonia during the XIV - XV th centuries. His mother Zübeyde Hanım was the daughter of an Old Turkish family who had settled in the town of Langasa near Salonika. Ali Rıza Efendi, who worked as militia officer, title deed clerck and lumber trader, married Zübeyde Hanım in 1871. Four of the 5 siblings of Atatürk died at early ages and only one sister, Makbule (Atadan) survived, and lived until 1956. Upon reaching school age, little Mustafa started school at the neighborhood classes of Hafız Mehmet Efendi and later, with his father's choice, was transferred to Şemsi Efendi School. He lost his father in 1888 where upon he stayed at the farm of his maternal uncle for a while and returned to Salonika to complete his studies. He registered at the Salonika Mülkiye Rüştiye (secondary school) and soon transferred to the military Rüştiye. While at this school, his math teacher, also named Mustafa, added "Kemal" to his name. He attended the Manastır Military School between 1896 - 1899 and later the Military School in İstanbul from which he graduated in 1902 with the rank of lieutenant. He later entered the Military Academy and graduated on January 11, 1905 with the rank of major. Between 1905 - 1907 he was stationed in Damascus with the 5th. Army. In 1907 he was promoted to the rank of "Kolağası" (senior major) and was posted with the III rd Army , which was stationed in Manastır. He was the Staff Officer of the "Special Troops" (Hareket Ordusu) which entered İstanbul on April 19, 1909. He was sent to Paris in 1910 where he attended the Picardie manuevers. In 1911 he started to work at the General Staff Office in İstanbul. Mustafa Kemal was stationed at Tobruk and Derne regions with a group of his friends during the war which started with the Italian attack on Tripoli. He won the Tobruk battle in 22 December 1911 against the Italians. On March 6, 1912 he was made the Commander of Derne. When the Balkan War started in October 1912, Mustafa Kemal joined the battle with units from Gallipoli and Bolayır. His contributions to the recapturing of Dimetoka and Edirne were considerable. In 1913 he was assigned to Sofia as a military attache. In 1914, while still at this post, he was promoted to the rank of lieutenant colonel. His term as an attache ended in January 1915. By that time the First World War had started and the ottomon Empire was inevitably involved. Mustafa Kemal was posted to Tekirdağ with the assignment of forming the 19th Division. Mustafa Kemal put his signature under a legend of heroism at Çanakkale during the First World War, which had started in 1914, and had the Allied Powers admit to the fact that "Çanakkale is unpassable!" On March 18, 1915 when the English and French navies in an attempt to force their way up the Çanakkale Strait gave heavy loses, they decided to put units on land at Gallipoli Peninsula. The enemy forces which landed at Arıburnu on 25 April 1915 were stopped by 19th Divison under Mustafa Kemal's command at Conkbayırı. Mustafa Kemal was promoted to the rank of colonel after this victory. English forces attacked at Arıburnu once more on 6-7 August 1915. Mustafa Kemal, as the Commander of the Anafartalar Forces won the Anafartalar Victory on 6-7 August 1915. This victory was followed by the victories of Kireçtepe on August 17, and the Second Anafartalar Victory on August 21. Turkish nation who lost about 253.000 men at battle, had managed to emerge in honour against the Allied forces. Actually the fate at trenches changed when Mustafa Kemal addressed his soldiers with the words "I am not giving you an order to attack, I am ordering you to die!" Mustafa Kemal was stationed at Edirne and Diyarbakır after the Çanakkale wars and was promoted to the rank of lieutenant general on 1 April 1916. He fought against the Russian forces and recaptured Muş and Bitlis. Following short assignments at Damascus and Khallepo, he came to İstanbul in 1917. He traveled to Germany with Vahdettin Efendi, the heir to the throne. He became sick after this trip and went to Vienna and Karisbad for treatment. He returned to Khalleppo on 15 August 1918 as the Commander of the 7th army. At this front, he fought successful defence wars. He was appointed as the Commandar of Yıldırım Armies one day after the signing of the armistice at Mondros. When this army was disbanded, he came to İstanbul on November 13, 1918 and started to work at the Ministry of Defence. When, following the Mondros Armistice, the Allied forces started to take over the Ottoman armies, Mustafa Kemal went to Samsun on May 19, 1919 as 9th Army Inspector. With the circular he published on 22 June 1919 at Amasya, he declared that " The freedom of the nation shall be restored with the resolve and determination of the nation itself" and called the meeting of the Sivas Congress. He convened Erzurum Congress during 23 July - 7 August 1919 and Sivas Congress during 4 - 11 September 1919, thus defining the path to be followed towards the freedom of the motherland. He was met with great enthusiasm in Ankara on 27 December 1919. With the initiation of the Turkish Grand National Assembly on 23 April 1920, a significant step was taken on the way to establishing the Turkish Republic. Mustafa Kemal was elected as the head of the national assembly as well as the head of the government. The Grand National Assembly started to put into effect the necessary legislative measures so as to enable the Independence War to come to a successful conclusion. Turkish War of Independence started with the first bullet shot at enemy on 15 May 1919 during the Gerek occupation of İzmir. The fight against the victors of the First World War who had divided up the Ottoman Empire with the Treaty of Sevres signed on 10 August 1920, initially started with the militia forces called Kuva-yi Milliye. Turkish Assembly later initiated a regular army and achieving integration between the army and the militia, was able to conclude the war in victory. The significant stages of the Turkish War of Independence under the Command of Mustafa Kemal are * Recapturing Sarıkamış, Kars and Gümrü * Çukurova, Gazi Antep, Kahramanmaraş, Şanlı Urfa defenses (1919 - 1921) * Ist İnönü Victory * IInd İnönü Victory * Sakarya Victory * Great Attack, Battle of the Chief Commander and the Great Victory After the Sakarya Victory, National Assembly bestowed the rank of marashal on Mustafa Kemal and the Gazi (veteran) title. War of Independences came to end with the Lozanne Agreement, which was signed on 24 July 1923. Hence, there were no longer any obstacles to create a new nation on Turkish soil which Treaty of Sevre had torn to pieces leaving Turks an area the size of 5-6 provinces. The National Assembly which first convened on 23 April 1920 in Ankara was the first clue to the Turkish Republic. The successful management of the War of Independence by this assembly accelerated the founding of the new Turkish State. On 1 November 1922, the offices of the Sultan and caliph were severed from one other and the former was abolished. There was no longer any administrative ties with the Ottoman Empire. On 29 October 1923, Turkish Republic was formally proclaimed and Atatürk was unanimously elected as its first President. On 30 October 1923, the first government of the Republic was formed by İsmet İnönü. Turkish Republic started to grow on the foundations of the twin principles "Sovereignty, unconditionally belongs to the nation" and "peace at home, peace in the world," Atatürk undertook a series of reforms to "raise Turkey to the level of modern civilization" which can be grouped under five titles 1. Political Reforms * Abolishment of the office of the Sultan (November 1922) * Proclamation of the Republic (29 October 1923) * Abolishment of the caliph (3 March 1924) 2. Social Reforms * Recognition of equal rights to men and women (1926 - 1934) * Reform of Headgear and Dress (25 November 1925) * Closure of mausoleums and dervish lodges (30 November 1925) * Law on family names (21 June 1934) * Abolishment of titles and by-names (26 November 1934) * Adoption of international calendar, hours and measurements (1925 - 1931) 3. Legal Reforms * Abolishment of the Canon Law (1924 - 1937) * Transfer to a secular law structure by adoption of Turkish Civil Code and other laws (1924 - 1937) 4. Reforms in the fields of education and culture * Unification of education (3 March 1924) * Adoption of new Turkish alphabet (1 November 1928) * Establishment of Turkish Language and History Institutions (1931 - 1932) * Regulation of the university education (31 May 1933) * Innovations in fine arts 5. Economic Reforms * Abolution of tithe * Encouragement of the farmers * Establishment of model farms * Establishment of industrial facilities, and putting into effect a law for Incentives for the Industry * Putting into effect Ist and IInd Development Plans (1933-1937), to develop transportation networks Acccording to the Law on Family Names, the Turkish Grand Assembly gave "Atatürk" (Father of Turks) as last name to Mustafa Kemal on 24 November 1934. Atatürk was elected as the Speaker of the Grand Assembly on 24 April 1920 and again on 13 August 1923. This was a position equal to that of the president as well as the prime minister. Republic was proclaimed on 29 October 1923 and Atatürk was elected as the first President. Elections for President were renewed every four years according to the Constitution. In 1927, 1931 and 1935 Turkish Grand Assembly again elected Atatürk as the president. Atatürk took frequent trips around the country and inspected locally the works undertaken by the state, giving directives were problems were faced. As president he was host to visiting foreign presidents, prime ministers and ministers. He read his Great Speech, which covers the War of Independence and the founding of the Republic on 15 - 20 October 1927, and his 10th Year Speech on 29 October 1933. Atatürk led a very simple private life. He married Latife Hanım on 29 January 1923. They took many trips to different parts of the country together. This marriage lasted until 5 August 1925. A great lover of children he adopted girls named Afet (İnan), Sabiha (Gökçen), Fikriye, Ülkü, Nebile, Rukiye and Zehra and a shepperd boy named Mustafa. He also took two boys called Abdurrahim and İhsan under his protection. He provided for the futures of these children who survived. He donated his farms to the Treasury in 1937 and some of his real estate to municipalities of Ankara and Bursa. He divided his inheritance among his sister, his adopted children and to the Turkish History and Language Institutions. He enjoyed books and music as well as dancing, horse riding and swimming. He was extremely interested in Zeybek dances, wrestling and the Rumelia folk songs. Games of billards and backgammon gave him great pleasure. He valued his horse Sakarya and his dog Fox . He had a rich library. He used to invite statesman, scholars and artists to dinners where the problems of the country were discussed. He was particular about his appearence and enjoyed dressing well. He was also a lover of nature. He used to frequent the Atatürk Forest Farm and join in the work. He knew French and German. Atatürk died on 10 November 1938 at 9.05 A.M at Dolmabahçe Palace, defeated by the liver ailment he was suffering from. He was taken to his temporary place of rest at the Ethnograpy Museum in Ankara on 21 November 1938. When the mausoleum was completed, he was taken to his permanent rest place with a grand ceremony on 10 November 1953.

Atleast he made modern Turkey what it is. The army in Turkey protects teh country according to Ataturks doctrine. All the people in Turkey have the same rights. He has modernized Turkey, built a strong army, regained terretories lost by the incompetant sultans (Cyprus). He has fought the Arabization of Turkey and made the Turkish language the main language in Turkey. He also opted for the latin script instead of the arabized script. He dealt with the Armenian sepratists. He industralized Turkey. Without Ataturk, Turkey would have disintegrated, they would havebeen colonized and the Turks would not be who they are. You will not find one Turk today who hates Ataturk. Ataturk fought of the British, French, The Greeks, The Russians and all their allies. Ataturk = The father of the turks. Mustafa Kamal was a true nationalist who has saved his country. If only we had a man like him who could safe us today just like he saved Turkey.

Source: Liberty For the Muslim World Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:54:57 +0000 Email: info@liberty.netkonect.co.uk Title: Liberty: Somalia Report: From Pres Mohamed Ibrahim Egal to PM Rabin TEXT: Liberty For the Muslim World, Postal Address: BM Freedom, London WC1N 3XX, U.K. Tel: 0181-4526210 Fax: 0181-4502019 Mob: 0468298219 Text of the letter sent by fax to former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin by President of the Republic of Somaliland Mohamed Ibrahim Egal. Republic of Somaliland The Presidency Our Ref: SLR/PO/ISPMI/7/95 Your Ref: ....................... 3 July 1995 Hargeisa His Excellency The Prime Minister of Israel Mr Yitshak Rabin Hakirya, Fax No. 972 2 513 950 Jerusalem, Israel. Your Excellency Establishing Strategic Partnership with the State of Israel In my capacity as the President of the Republic of Somaliland, an admirer of the state of Israel and the courage of its people, please accept my compliments and my people's profound felicitations to you, your Government, President and the people of Israel for their tenacity, strength and resourcefulness which had finally constrained its adversaries to make peace with the State of Israel. I have the honour of representing the people of Somaliland and its nascent state in this opportunity for seeking to establish amiable and strategic links with the State of Israel. It is important to note that our two nations have had strong links since time immemorial. Indicative of such historical links, stretching well before the advent of Islam to this date, is the influence of the Hebrew culture in Somaliland and how Jewish legends and their mystical powers are widely acknowledged and homage paid to them. In addition, the people of Somaliland are appreciative as they have an indelible memory of the fact that Israel was among the first three countries who recognised Somaliland after it declared its independence from Britain on 26th June 1960, alas, that independence lasted no more than four days as Somaliland entered into a voluntary union with the UN Trust Territory of Somalia on 1st July 1960, in the hope of creating Greater Somalia. Exactly, thirty five years later, the dreams of Greater Somalia are discredited and disavowed. It was under the union with Somalia that Somaliland found itself a pathetic captive within a ruthless, destructive and hostile state. Indeed, it was this union whose culmination was the tyrannous and repressive regime of the late Siyad Barre which brought about the enormous suffering, starvation and destruction in which the world had witnessed and came to notice, too well, during the past five years or so. The people of Somaliland have renounced such a union in May 1991 and reclaimed their independent sovereign entity, and nothing will make them reverse the decision to extricate themselves from the captivity of Somalia. The vice-president and the Foreign Minister of Somaliland have, recently, paid an official visit to Eritrea and while there met H.E. Ariel Kerem, the Ambassador of Israel in Eritrea, who furnished them with valuable advice and suggested that I, the President of Somaliland, should write to your Excellency, as the Prime Minister of Israel, in person, informing you about Somaliland's eagerness to establish an ex parte relationship based on strategic partnership with the State of Israel and sharing with you about my government's concerns and fears vis-a-vis the alarming menace emanating from the expansion of Islamic influence in our strategic region. As I am sure you are aware, at the height of the cold war Somalia's strategic geographical location was acknowledged by both sides (East/West). Today, however, although the West had won the cold war and the threat of communism appears to be vanishing in many parts of the world, we, in the Horn of Africa, are being threatened by a more sinister and pernicious enemy in the form of encroaching Islamic influence. It would be true to say that the State of Israel and its people are, perhaps, more aware and alert of such threats than most other countries, and know how perilous and pestilential the spread of Islamic influence would mean for the entire region. The political upheavals which have been taking place in the Horn of Africa and the lack of stability in the region could be aggravated further if the influence of Islamic Fundamentalism is not curtailed or contained very soon. Somaliland's concern is reinforced by the growing influence of the Saudis and the pro-Islamic Yemen, particularly ever since it had crushed and defeated the South Yemeni's courageous attempt to forsake or renounce its union with the north. Discovering that Eritrea is not interested [in] to act as an Arab satellite, both Sana' and Riyadh, as well as Khartoum (not to mention how pariah states like Iran and Libya are meddling into the internal affairs of my country), are now directing their efforts to force Somaliland to forfeit or withdraw its independence with the intention of installing a pro-Islamic Somali state (under a federal Somalia). This will most definitely render the control of both the north and southern coasts of the Red Sea to pro-Islamic regimes, with the exception of Eritrea and the miniature state of Djibouti which has no significance leaving the whole region to become a bed-rock for Islamic influence. Your Excellency, my government firmly believes that owing to this region's strategic geopolitical importance as a result of its propinquity to the oil routes and the narrow Babul-Mendeb entrance, as well as its proximity to the Gulf, the Middle East and the access to the Indian Ocean, it will be highly deleterious if such a strategic region falls almost entirely under the dominion of pro-Islamic regimes. Needless to say that this should be a portentous eventuality which will in turn adversely affect the national security of the State of Israel, and that of other countries in the Horn of Africa who are trying to recover from years, if not decades, of both man-made and natural disasters i.e. civil wars, military coups, draughts and famines, etc. In addition, since countries in the region are not politically stable the encroachment of Islamic influence will most certainly have a destabilising effect. For instance, in Ethiopia with its various nationalities and particularly with its large Muslim population, the expansion of pro-Islamists in the region would act as a tinder-box with the potential to enflame the entire region. Although the people of Somaliland are over 98% Muslims, they are, nevertheless, averse to adopt an antiquated Islamic Sharia Law as their way of living and governance. In contrast my government intends to make Somaliland a beacon of democracy and oasis for stability in this region of upheavals and turmoil. But this is unlikely to happen in the present climate, as we are ranged against by strong and powerful Islamic proxies whose primary aim is to put out such an illume of hope. A foretaste of what will happen if dark forces of Islamists will succeed in their pursuit of bringing in a passé or an out-moded system, could be seen in Mogadishu today, where a de facto administration from a coalition of Islamic proxies and minority tribal groups headed by not so long ago UN/International fugitive warlord General Aideed, where Islamic surrogates have been infringing people's human rights with impunity; people are being stoned to death for committing no crime other than fornication; and limbs are being chopped off for petty crimes such as mugging and burglary in a barbaric inhuman and uncivilised manner. My government has, in lieu of imposing Sharia Law on our people, just completed the draft of a new secular Constitution which is very liberal and mundane, for I am conscious that Sharia Law does not reflect the needs of my people who are aspiring to become a modern society. Pro-Islamists are hell bent on spreading their influence & version of Islam in the region, and are exploiting the plight of the people of Somaliland. Islamists are the kind of people inspired by a boundless hate who could even exculpate and excuse the crimes of the Holocaust. They have scant regard of the dire needs of the Somali people. All they are interested in is to have their way and are pouring arms and funds to set-up a pro-Islamic regime in our country and establish more Islamic proxies throughout the region. Their modus operandi is to take advantage of people's predicament and impose unsuitable Islamic regimes upon and unsuspecting people. Somalila nd is doing all it can to be a bulwark against the spread of Islamic fundamentalism and sees this as an international issue, thus would appreciate it if your Excellency would use your good offices & enormous influence in the West, particularly in the US, to alert them about the portentous/ominous situation developing in this region, so that they would not remain hapless on-lookers while their national/international interests are being threatened. I am absolutely certain that those Arab countries noted above, as well as Iran, will whip-up Islamic/Arab passion against Somaliland establishing amiable & strategic partnership with the State of Israel and thus could use this as a pretext to exacerbate our situation further both inside and outside Somaliland. However, those countries need to know that my government is not playing with empty emotions, as they often do, but playing pragmatism and real politick for the best interest of its people and country. The people of Somaliland have a daunting and onerous task to overcome their Islamist adversaries and contain the encroachment of Islamic influence, considering their strength, however, we are like David facing Goliath, but then there were an overwhelming odds against Israel when it defeated Arabs in three major wars. In order to surmount such an onerous task my government needs the support and assistance of the State of Israel, not only to defend our nascent state from the menace of pro-Islamist dark forces, but also in terms of relief, rehabilitation and reconstruction of this devastated country. In this regard my government has a number of priority areas where your Excellency's assistance is pivotal to the people of Somaliland, among these are: First, military equipment and counter insurgency experts. Second, conducting plebiscite on the issue of independence at the end of next year 1996 or early 1997. Third, relief and rehabilitation aid as well as development advisers, petroleum and mineral exploitation expertise. The people of Somaliland have full confidence in their government and are absolutely behind me in this historic decision of establishing strategic partnership with the state of Israel and I am determined to see it come into fruition. Shalom, I have the honour to remain, Your Obedient Servant Mohamed Ibrahim Egal President Republic of Somaliland

Oodweyna ilaahay waxaan kaaga baryayaa in uu cuqdada kaa saaro. Maalin maalmahan ka mid ah waxaan jeclaan lahaa, in aan arko adoo isku kalsoon. To those who would like to read up on the Daraawiish resistance, there is good article on Mudugonline by Abdisalam M. Issa-Salwe search in google, keywords: mudugonline, Abdisalam M. Issa-Salwe daraawiish. or Abdi Sheikh-Abdi, Divine Madness: Mohammed Abdulle Hassan (1856-1920) (London: Zed Books Ltd., 1992) Book review on Divine Madness Book Review Abdi Sheikh-Abdi, Divine Madness: Mohammed Abdulle Hassan (1856-1920) (London: Zed Books Ltd., 1992) by Abdisalam Issa-Salwe Many books have been written about Mohammed Abdulle Hassan, the man who led the Somali resistance in the early twentieth century, yet he and the movement he led (the Dervish) continue to be a subject of study a long time after the fall of the movement. Known by his followers as Sayid (master), by the colonial literature as Mad Mullah, Mohammed Abdulle Hassan remains a controversial figure. Dr Abdi Sheikh-Abdi now adds his work on the subject which took him more than ten years to complete. This book examines ─── in a social and historical perspective ─── the rise of Mohammed Abdulle Hassan and his movement. It consists of an introduction and six chapters. As Euro-colonialists were usually of another faith, the Somalis felt that the colonialists were trying to Christianise their children. The resistance led by Mohammed Abdulle Hassan was in response to this belief. The introduction attempts to examine the literary historical of Mohammed Abdulle Hassan (known as Sayid Mohammed) who was one of the greatest Somali poets of this century. Chapter 1 presents the people of the country. Chapter 2 deals with the historical setting of the event which led to the Somali resistance led by Mohammed Abdulle Hassan in early part of this century. Chapter 3 covers the life of the man, his background and the influence which reflected the struggle which he spearheaded. Chapter 4 explores the armed resistance to colonialism. Chapter 5 focuses on the ideology, characteristics and organisation of the Somali Dervish movement. Chapter 6, which is also the conclusion, examines the implications and the ideological influences which the Dervish movement left on Somali nationalism which was to start shortly after the annihilation of the movement. By forwarding a rich and in-depth analysis of literary materials, historical and social evidence, the author challenges both the interpretation and the early publications of Mohammed Abdulle Hassan's personality and leadership. He maintains that Mohammed Abdulle Hassan was not "an ambitious chieftain of a militant Muslim sect [salihiya] bent on wrestling power from the tradition-bound Muslim brotherhoods [Qadiriya, Dandarawiya, etc.] of the Somaliland", but a true nationalist whose aim "transcended both religious considerations and clan based affiliations." Consequently, the ideology behind the struggle was to arouse and stimulate the rise of modern Somali nationalism two decades later in the Somali peninsula. The author's approach differs from the style of contemporary scholars as he emphasises the social context of the Dervish movement rather than literary, spiritual or other aspects. Through his research, Dr Sheikh-Abdi gives attention to the oral tradition of the Somalis as it is an important element in the historical research into a predominantly oral society. One important contribution forwarded by Dr Sheikh-Abdi is the atrocity committed by the British colonial forces against the followers of the Dervish movement. Previous works were written mostly by colonial officials who focused only on the fierce way Mohammed Abdulle Hassan deal with those Somali clans who opposed him. Before the arrival of colonialism in the Somaliland, the Somali society led a decentralised way of life. The colonial powers demanded a way of life contrary to their traditional one. Subsequently, Somalis responded violently in reaction to this interfer­ence. However because of the lack of leadership, as the author maintains, this resistance was futile. Only with the appearance of Mohammed Abdulle Hassan did the Somalis became organized, under his leadership. By knowing that the colonialists could not be defeated only by force, Mohammed Abdulle Hassan, use words as arms. As words, spoken or written, have been the most powerful means of communication in all mankind's society, he consummately and skilfully used the communica­tive functions of Somali verse. He repeatedly sought to gain in verse what he had not succeeded in acquiring with arms. He designed his verse to enhance his cause, to encour­age his followers or scorn and discredit his enemies. However, by scorning his enemies, he sometimes used to preach the pastoral ethos excessively as Said Samatar writes, like an "epigram that borders on the obscene." It is here that Dr Abdi-Sheikh explores the dual poetic exchange between Mohammed Abdulle Hassan and his opponents, namely Ali Jama Habil and Ali Adan "Ali Dhuh", as this throws light on the social dynamics of that period. It is in the conclusion and the reason behind the disintegration of the Dervish movement that Dr Sheikh-Abdi's work falters. The reason that Mohammed Abdulle Hassan was such a controversial figure was that his indiscriminate raiding, seizing and plundering of the property of the Somali clans he suspected, were not favourable to his cause. This behaviour poisoned his relations with the Somali clans and crippled his movement as, consequently, it alienated him from the clans who traditionally considered all crime against an individual as a crime against the clan to which the person belonged. It also estranged him from other religious orders such as Qadiriya and Dandarawiya. The conflict stretched to such an extreme that the Dervish eventually killed Sheikh Awees Biyooley (Sheikh Uways bin Mohammed al-Baraawa) in Biyooley, the Qadiriya representative in the southern Somaliland in 1909. The veteran Dervish Ismail Mire believed that what led to the collapse of the movement was the indiscriminate killing of holy men. Despite the lack of emphasis on the gravity of the collapse of the Dervish, we cannot deny the invaluable contribution of Dr Sheikh-Abdi in the form of this inestimable scholarly work.

Oodweyne, Naacnaacda waa lagugu yagaanaa. Nin rag ah oo isku kalsoon hadii aad tahay, cadkaaga waad la goosan lahayd raga. Sidaasba ha ahaatee, taad tahay waad tustay dadka. Cay iyo af xumo un ayaad meesha ka wadaa. Meel walba oo hadalkani ka soco, orad ayaad oga baxdaa. In aadan difaaci karin arintan ah kala goynta qaranka Soomaaliyeed ayaan anigu u arkaa. Marka cayda caruurta u daa, hadii aad tahay nin rag ah, kaalay oo difaac waxa ay ku dhisantahay kalagoyntan aad qaranka Soomaaliyeed la rabtid. Ingiriis hadii uu yahay kii ku rartay, ha nicin ragii iska dhiciyay. Imisa buug ayuu ingriis dabadhilifyadiisa ka qoray, imisuuna ragii la dagaalamay ka qoray? Ragu rag wuu gartaa. Marka si kastaba isagu dhaji gaalkii cadawgaaga ahaa. Kolay anaga un ayaa isu hadhayna. Cadawtinimadan aad wadid waxaad ku talaali doonta jiilasha dambana, marka fahan in aan weligeen kala hadhayn, waligeenna sidan ayaan isu haysanaynaa hadii aad ka shaqayn weydid sidii xal loogu heli lahaa arimahan na haysta. Maskaxdaada u isticmaal sidii xal loogu heli lahaa arimahan iyo sidii wada noolaansho loo heli lahaa, intii aad u isticmaali lahayd kala fogaynta umada Soomaaliyeed.

Isweydii: Imisa eray oo af qalaad ah ayaad ku aragtaa, qoraal'kan?

Hungurisarcaad: Erey Bixinta Af Somaliga Abdulfatah Ismail July 6, 2006 Dawlad laa'aantii ku habsatay Somaliya ayaa waxay dib udhac wayn kuriday Af Somaaliga, dhaqanka iyo sugaanta iyadoo ay meesha ka baxday hay'adihii daryeeli lahaa afka iyo dhaqanka. Muddo 16 toban sannadood ah lama samayn wax cilimbaadhis ah oo sugaanta iyo Af Somaaliga xidhiidh la leh, inkasta oo isgaarsiinta casriga ah iyo aaladda enternetku ay door ka qaateen daboolida dayaca jira. Waxa xusid mudan in afka hooyo ka tamar badnaaday kala qoqobnaanta bulshada oo burburku dhaliyey. Inkast oo erayo badan oo Af Somali ah uu dabar go'o ku dhacay, haddana sidii uu weligiiba ahaan jiray Af Somaligu kuma joojin ee kuwo cusub ayaa abuurmay oo ku salaysan dareenka bulshawaynta Somaaliyeed. Erayadaas waxaa maanta lagu adeegsadaa dhammaan meel kasta oo Somalidu ku noohashahay. Waxayse u badantahay in aan sidaa loo adeegsan intooda badan haddii wadciga lagu jiro laga baxo. Bilawgii Qaranigii labaatanaad waxa kacdoonkii Daraawishtu Af Somaliga ku soo biiriyey Erayo cusub oo mug leh. Waxaa erayadaa ka mid ah: Jaalle, Gunno, Xarun, Guddi, Musuqmaasuq, Daraawish, Qusuusi, Duubcad, Qadaadwayn, Yamyam iyo kuwe kale oo farabadan. Waayadii dawladaha rayadka ah, xiligii dawladdii miltariga ahayd iyo intii burburkaba erayo cusub ayaa ku soo biirey Af Somaliga. Waxaan halkan ku soo bandhigayaa qaar ka mid ah erayadii abuurmay ama sida gaarka ah loo adeegsaday labadii xilli ee ugu danbeeyey, waa waayadii dawladii milatariga ahayd iyo sannadihii burburka. Ayaamihii dawladdii u dambaysay ee Soomaaliya waxa ka mid ah erayadii soo shaac baxay ama sida gaarka ah loo adeegsaday: Kacaan, Kacaandiid, Labokaclayn, Dibusocod, dabadhilif, Afmiishaar, Labawajiile, Wadaad Xume, Hawlwadeen, Iskaa wax uqabso, Sicir barar, Xatooyo xoolo dadwayne, Xisaabi xil maleh, Samadiid, Guulwade, Xeerka qoyska, Koofiyad cas, Olole, Danwadaag, Canaasiir, Indho indhayn, Dhago dhagayn iyo kuwo kale oo badan. Tan intii burburku ku dhacay Soomaaliya waxaa afka hooyo ku soo biirayay erayo ku salaysan wadciga jira. Waxaa erayadaa ka mid ah: Goolaaftan (boolixoofto been ah), Fadhi ku dirir, Basbaasayn (isku dirid laba dhinac - waa laysku bisbaaseeyey), Buufis, Is xambaar, Dhaqan celin, Ashahaado la dirir, Ku habso, Ku qabso Ku qadimayside, Moor-yaan, Qabqable Dagaal/Dagaal Ooge, Tikniko, Leejo, Isku dhac Beeleed, Gooni Isu taag, Dawlad Gobeleed, Dhaameel Daadin, Kaadi Usoo cabbid, iyo kuwa kale farabadan. Erayga "Indho sarcaad" ayaan isagu inagu cusbayn oo ah erayada muddo dheer la adeegsayanyey, balse waxaan usoo qaatay si aan u barbardhigo erey kale oo Indhosarcaad bahwadaag (waxay wadaagaan "Sarcaad") la ah, hase yeeshee la jaanqaadaya erayada burburkii inagu soo biirayay igana soo gaadhay nin oday ah oo sheeko na dhex martay, eraygaas oo ah Hungur isarcaad. Erayga Dhego dhagayn ayaa isagu bahwadaag la ah erayga Indho indhayn. Wuxuuna soo soobaxay burburkii ka hor mar masuul aan indhaha aad wax uga arag uu booqasho ku kala bixiyey xafiisyo dawladdu lahayd dabeedna la heegay in uu soo dhagad hegeeyey sida hawluhu u socdaan halkii laga oran jiray wuu soo indhoindheeyey. Odaygu wuxuu ii sheegay inay u riyaaqeen nabadaynta magaalada muqdisho iyo guulaha maxkamadaha laakiinse wuxuu ka digay inuu ku dhaco wadaadada wax uu ugu yeedhay Hunguri sarcaad. Waxa uu odaygu uga baqay in wadaadada damac madaxmaro markay arkaan Villa Somaliya iyo Muqdisho iyo gobolada ku dhow oo gacantooda ku jirta hilmaamanna in Muqdisho tahay caasimaddii dalka oo hal reer ku hadhay, dalkuna ka koobanyahay 18 gobol oo kala qoqoban. Odaygu wuxuu wadaadada ugu baaqay inay galaan marka hore Jihaadul Nafsi (Jihaad ay nafta lagalaan) si ay u xakameeyaan xukun jacaylka oo ah wax baniaadamka ku abuuran iyo in hugurigu ka saayid caleeyo caqliguna shaqayn waayo oo ay qaadaan wadadii kuwii kahoreeyay. Odaygu wuxuu wadaadada ka codsaday inay shacabka Somaaliyeed u naxaan, samraanna seddexda sano ee dawladda u hadhay. Waxa uu wadaadada ku booriyay in ay la shaqeeyaan dawladda kmg ah si dalka loo xasiliyo layslana meel dhigo sidii marka xilliga ku meel gaadh ahi dhammaado doorashooyin xor ah dalka looga qaban lahaa, nin walibana usoo bandhigi lahaa qorshihiisa. Odaygu wuxuu intaa kudaray in taasi keenayso in shacabku dooran doono ku dhaqanka Diinteena Islaamka oo ay iyaga iyo wadaadada kale ee Somaaliyeed hormuud ka yihiin dalkuna saa ku adbaadi karo. Odaygu wuxuu ku celceliyey in ay habboon tahay lix iyo toban sano oo burbur ah ka dib in laga fakaro sidii ay xeega xeego u noqon lahayd ilkana ku nabadgelilahaayeen. Ugu danbayntiina Odaygu wuxuu ka digay in hugurigu wadaada ka xoog bato danta guudna la gees maro. Wuxu ku nuuxnuuxsaday in lagu dadaalo sidii meesha looga saari lahaa isku dhac dhexmara maxkamadaha iyo dawladda kmg ah iyo in quwadaha shiyeeye isku dhacaasi ka dhex muuqdaan. Taas oo horseedi karta burbur hor leh iyo dawlad la'aanta shacabka Somaaliyeed ragaadisay oo sii daba dheeraata. Ugu danbayntiina Odaygu, isagoo da'diisu caga cagaynso sideetameeyo, wuxuu shaki galiyey suura galnimada inuu arko dawlad Somaaliyeed oo caadalad ku dhisan, shacabkuna raalli ka wada yahay. Wuxuuse Ilaahay ka baryey inuu sidii kharyku ku jiro Umadda waafajiyo iyo in uu Hunguri sarcaad noqdo eray bixintii u dambaysay ee xiligii burburka. Ka dib markii aan Odaygii kala dhaqaaqnay ayaa waxaa igu soo milmay erayadii hunguri sarcaad iyo xukun jacaly. Waxaan xusuustay mid ka mid ah masrixiyadaha ugu caansan ee uu lahaa William Shakespeare, qoraagii reer Ingriis. Taas oo ka turjumaysa aafooyinka xukun jacaylka iyo sida qofka xukundoonka ay midi ugu caddahay mid kalena uga madowdahay isagoo ku jira xaladdaa Odaygu kusheegay Hugur isarcaad. Riwaayadda la magac baxday Machbeth ee uu allifay Shakespeare, ayaa waxay si qurux badan u iftiiminaysaa damaca iyo xukun jacaylka ku abuuran bani'aadamka. Sida ku cad sheekadaas, Macbeth wuxuu ahaa abaanduule ciidan oo ilma adeer la ahaa boqorkii reer Scotland ee la oran jiray Duncun. Wuxuuna guulo waawayn ka soo hooyey Dagaaladii u la galay kuwii la dirirayey xilligaas boqortooyada. Wuxuu boqorku ku sharfay dhammaan jagooyinkii rag lagu tuhmayey in ay boqortooyada Scotland khiyaameeyeen. Wuxuuna noqday wasiirkisii gaashandhiga. Ehelinimada ka dhaxaysay isaga iyo boqorka iyo jagooyinkii lagu maamuusay midina may xakamayn damacii Macbeth. Waxaa ku dhacay Hugurisarcaad oo wuxuu isu diyaariyay in uu boqorka dilo xukunkana la wareego kadib markuu arkay darjooyinka uu gaadhay, habro sixiroole ahina ugu faaliyeen in uu noqonayo Boqorka Scotland. Macbeth waxaa ku dhiirig aliyey inuu boqorka dilo haweenaydiisa oo la oran jiray Lady Macbeth, oo lagu tilmaamo in ay ahayd habar shar badan. In badan ayuuna Macbeth ka walaacay caawaaqib xumada ka iman karta dilka boqorka. Waxaase ku dhacay Hugurisarcaad. Wuxuu iska dhaadhicayey in uu noqonayo boqor, waxaase u muuqan waayey maadaama boqorkii nool yahay caruurina u joogto meesha ay u soo marayso boqornimadu.Waxaana isaga iyo afadiisii laysla meel dhigay in dilka boqorku yahay arrinka keliya ee boqortooyada lagu hantiyikaro. Haddii aan sangaabta soo qobto, boqorkii waa la dilay. Macbeth wuxuu isu magacaabey boqor, inamadii boqorkuna waxay u carareen Ireland oo dagaalbay soo qaadeen, dalkii waxaa ka dilaacay dagaal sokeeye, Macbethna wuu bahaloobay, dad badana wuu laayey si uu xukunka u xejisto. Akhrikiina isaga iyo afadiisii may calfan xukunkii ee iyana way waalatay isna waxaa dilay nin caruurtiisa iyo naagtiis uu dilay oo la' oran jiray Mucduff. Wuxuu Macbeth la dhintay muraara dilaac, murugo iyo isciil kaanbin uu u gaystay Hunguri sarcaadkii uu xakamayn kari waayey. Wuxuu ku tiraabay erayadan soo socda: "Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an id-iot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." Isagoo ku tilmaamay aduunka: "a walking shadow" hadhkaa wareegaya, "a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage" iyo riwaayad uu matalay nin aad u farsamo liita, "a tale told by an idi-ot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" iyo sheeko na-cas sheegay oo aan wax macno ah samaynayn. Bal hadaba aynu dhowrno sida dawladda kmg ah iyo ee shacabku u baahan yahay isaga caabido faragalinta Eithopia oo dal Somaliyeed haysata, sida Maxkamduhu uga badbaadaan Hugurisarcaad saaqa oo madax mara iyo sida labadooduba u gartaan in maanta Soomaaliya labadbaadsho. Abdulfatah Ismail guulo@hotmail.com

The Somalis need an Ataturk. AtaSomali Thats cleans up our country, I am willing henchman for any Atasomali. These Somali apes need some good whipping. First they need to learn what death is before they can learn what living is.

Delusions. No matter how many lies or half truths come from those who want division. Things on the ground will not change, today in Somalia we have a clan stand off. That’s all, no “Nation-State†has emerged anywhere. Plus blaming Siad Barre for everything is becoming ridiculous, take responsibilities for your actions will ya! If Siad Barre was so bad why were the current leaders of the secessionists so eager to work for him? Mr. Ahmed Idaja and the late Mr. Afqarshe -- had tried collectively in vain and in earnest to glorified the "Murderous Jihadist" military campaign of the "Dervishes Movement" and their megalomaniac bloodthirsty leader, namely a certain "very-much-mentally-disturb" wayward gentleman by the name of "Mad Mullah" Statements like these do not do any cause any good, not participating in one of the greater greatest National Liberation Movements in Africa is one thing, but to demonize it and even ridicule those who fought for our freedom is sick. Our nation’s history is written in blood, in the blood of the martyrs who defended the honour of the Somali nation and Islam in the Horn of Africa. The Sayd and the Daraawiish where hero’s of the Somali cause, quoting the evil propaganda of the British colonialist while renouncing the Somali Nationalists that gave their lives by the thousands for the glory of our nation can only be described as the act of desperation of a group that is truly lost. It is one thing to have political aspirations that are different then others, but it’s another thing to deny or demonise the history of the Somali people. The Sayd did not fight for clan, he fought for Somali freedom. It is unbelievable that you are justifying the tyranny of the colonialists, while renouncing the bravery of the Somali freedom fighters. It’s sad, I hope this cuqdad leaves you one day, you are a man just like me, do not feel less.

Originally posted by Valenteenah: Ah...it's not just that he is ugliness personified, but he seems to think he is all that to boot as well, huh? The cheek of it...imagine having confidence when you look that bad! Completely unheard of ayaan ku idhi. He is clearly not being appropriately apologetic for his lack of looks. Worse, he probably hasn't shown you the deference you deserve as a pretty girl, am I right? Boy this guy is already getting on my nerves! :mad: Your company needs to take another look at their recruitment policy. They can't be going around giving jobs willy-nilly, especially to ugly ppl! Grr... hahahahaha, I hope she got it!

Yes your right a shift in thinking is needed, but this shift in thinking will not come if we reward the warelords instead of punishing them. Can the two not go hand in hand. Rewarding the people trying to do good and punishing those who are doing evil? Plus what do we have to loose with wacking few hated warlords? Could it not work positively by showing all those who have evil plans that they will be dealt with? The list of people also includes. -those who dump Somali people in the sea -those who sold the statues of our National hero's -those who dumped nuclear and chemical waste on our shores -those who have caused the famines -those who cut trees for charcoal All these people need to be delt with. Us ignoring them is whats making them bolder and do even worse things.

Will killing the warlords solve the problem? I mean all of them. We make a list and go knock on their doors. Would that solve anything? And why hasn't it been tried before?