How long is left from the TFG? when will this transition time end? Are there any elctions planned? Anyhow General Duke although I admire your commitment to the cause, I wonder why you can say you are against the Ethiopian involvement in Somalia and defend or deny their involvement with the same breath. Brother choose a side. Be like Naxar or condemn this Ethiopian agression. I also would to ask you, if Abdilahi Yusuf dies today and Ali Ghedi takes over will you be as supportive of the TFG as you are today?

Kashafa sheekanadi waxay ku socotay af soomaaliga ma ilaalinaa. Maxaad ka qabtaa arantan?

MMA, kuwani yagaa is gubi doona, waa in aan anagu isu diyaarino saan marka ay is gubaan dabka uga damin lahayn. Maskaxda ey ku socdaan waad aragtaa. Anigu waxaan ka baqayaase in ay diinta ku ciyaaraan sida ay is leeyihiin diinta wax tara.

Xoogsade How about group D. Who accept Sharia and all Islamic codes, but still want to keep their culture and language and who are against Arabism while supporting islam.

Mr. Red Sea, Why shouldn’t we learn our language? Do you think that a language is only the spoken street language? A language is bigger then that and especially our language. Our language is our culture; it is what defines us as a nation amongst the nations of the world. The first language of the Somalis should be Somali and are you disagreeing with me on that? Are you telling me that we shouldn’t learn Somali in schools and we should learn Arabic instead? I also think that following in the foot steps of our prophet it was in his actions, in his kindness in his generosity and wisdom. Not just dress like him or take Arabic names and still be a hateful person. There are already rules for proper Islamic dress code. As long as one complies with the Islamic dress code one can wear whatever he or she wants, it doesn’t have to be an Arabic khamiis. Looking like an Arab or having an Arabic name does not make you a better Muslim. Do you agree with me on that? A khamiis does not define our religion, not doesa name. You can be called maslax, rooble, guleed, liibaan or gaashaan and still be good Muslim. Mr. Red Sea some final points Not all muslims are Arabs, so we do not have to imitate arabs because they are muslims. Also not all Arabs are muslims. Arab is a race not a religion. Imitating arabs doe s not mean imitating muslims and why do we need to imitate other muslims when we are also muslims? is our mulimnimo not as good as theirs? or is it not good enough? are they closer to god?

Didi come on man, how long have you been here? SOL is a regular battle ground. All factions of the Somali civil war have sent they own ambassadors and cyber warlords to battle it out here. This cyber civil war needs to be stopped. It is as harmful as the real war. We all know who the cyber warlords are. So if we have a cyber civil war and cyber warlords it is only logical that we should have a cyber peace conference.

Yes Rahima, I am not immune to reality, I have realized that too, damn my bubble has bursted, but here it comes I don't care about reality. Reality is created, if this reality sucks time to create another one. You remember that saying “If you want something done right, do it yourselfâ€, who needs these people, I will do it myself and soon they will be willing to do anything. Rahima, allot of these people don’t care, but there is that fanatical minority who is willing to participate in all the fun so it’s ok, I will find them and I will come back for the demoralized folks. I have already identified you and Ngonge as the demoralized folks that need a pep talk. My advice listen to some Tupac. Keep your head up They don’t need to know what unity means, we will sell it to them. People buy things that they don’t know, don’t need or don’t want all the time, if they can sell the war on terror to the Americans, we can sell the Somalis the war of the worlds. Hmmmm, I am already thinking about marketing this war. Theme song by K'naan feat Maryan Mursal T shirts Sweaters Mugs Notepads Baseball Caps Posters We need heroes, some good looking poster boys and girls holding AK47 and a Somali flag. Rahima wanna be a poster girl? The face of the revolution, 2006 version Xalimo Tako.

Yo Yo how about becoming my advisor? You amazed me once again. “The SOL cyber reconciliation effort – putting end to fadhi ku dirirâ€. I do not think it should be pland and sland first, but a Somali wide cyber reconciliation effort. Attended by all cyber warlords and the ambassadors of all cyber fiefdoms. Any volunteers for drafting up the road map to cyper-peace? Please mail me if you would like to volunteer and give you idea on how to achieve cyber peace. This will be a long process. This is the crude outline of the process - The creation of a neutral group of peace makers - Creating a peace package with incentives for all parties - Inviting all cyber warlords and ambassadors - The recognition of all parties - Each cyber entity putting their case forward - Drafting a framework agreement - Each entity recognizing the mistakes that they have made and asking for forgiveness - Looking for the middle ground - Etc etc

Ngonge, I have made wild accusations directed at you and I was wrong on many fronts. I appreciate you honesty and I would like to ask for your forgiveness. My reasoning in all this was I wanted to peel away the layer of lies that each of every one of us here is insulated in. These lies make ourselves feel good about our short comings. No Somali today can be happy with the situation of our land and our people. I do not want to sum up the struggles that our people are facing today and our uncertain future. All of us here want a better a day for our nation and a brighter future. I have always believed in the common good and my patriotism is not a one day fly. I was born this way and I will die this way. There are many people who were participants in the destruction of Somalia who have al of the sudden changed into the ‘defenders’ Somalia. I do see this, but should we the ones who truly believe in Somalia let these people hijack this cause? They have been destroying our land for 16 years with our consent, because silence is consent. Should we not stand up for things that are right instead of being demoralized by these people? In today’s Somalia allot of things are wrong, but I am not suggesting that we should fight to save today’s Somalia, because today’s Somalia can go to hell. I am suggesting that we fight for tomorrows Somalia. A country is just a land and I do agree with you on that point too, but Somalis or any other nation can not survive without its land. The only nation that have proven that they can survive without their land is the Jewish nation and they have only done this by making the Torah a movable territory and wherever the Torah is it is their nation. (Torah as movable territory Emanuel Maier) We will not be able to survive as a nation if we do not go back to our land. I believe that you can see this too. With each day that passes we loose more of our self, more of our language and culture. Our nation will not exist without our help. Ngonge you too want a better Somalia and I would like to say to you that you are Somalia. Somalia is its people all of us here on SOL are Somalia. If we contribute we will make a difference for the better. It is easier to give up, but today giving up is not an option. This war is not a war against Ethiopia; it is a war for Somalia.

I am gone in 2 months so it’s ok. 2009 will be the start of the war and 2011 the final battle. How do I know this? My astrologist told me. How did that speech go in that movie independence day? Anyhow nin waloowba naftaa, nabiyoow umadaa! I don’t want to scare anyone but do you remember how they looked at us when 9/11 happened? Do you remember how they treated us when 7/7 happened? Imagine something bigger happening, how will you escape? Do you remember how innocent Somalis where killed when Mogadishu fell? Do you remember Rwanda and the Tutsi’s, the Jews and the concentration camps? I hope that those things ring a bell and show you the savagery of human beings and how easy it is for normal people to turn into mass murderers. One thing that the Somali civil war thought me is that mob-mentality is very very dangerous and unpredictable. Yo Yo you are very resourceful keep them coming

Xoogsade I am a man. I do understand this fadhi ku dirir attitude and that some of you do not even take it seriously and you consider it part of the 'fun'. But this is actually contributing to the animosity amongst orselves. Maybe it is time to ease up on the cyber civil war and get ourselves a real war, what do you say? Because after 15 years fighting the same people, it gets boring. I say we should upgrade and take on the xabashis. I am tired of bashing the secessionists and all other anti-somalinimo factions. ps. This Somalis hating each other is not good for my young mind. Xoogsade what do you say you becoming the warlord of Tigre? you will get land, slaves, a castle and a title. Imagine Lord Xoogsade of the Tigre? your own little fiefdom.

Northerner in this globalized world everyone can contribute in different forms. Being against any form of contribution is treason. In today’s wars not everyone has to carry a gun. So one can differentiate the two by their willingness to contribute. lol@val...The laws school does not matter, but the laws are clear and each nation has laws against high treason.

Yay! 5 votes so far. Come on people vote. Voting never hurt anyone.

^^ he is still Somali so the law applies to him too, the law doesn't say anything about location.

Yo Yo any suggestions as you can see I am crap at it. So I need people who understand how maryooley think, because they seem alien to me. Anyone can contribute

Marka hore diinta ayaad been ka sheegtay markii lagugu qabtayna sheekada waxaad gaysay, 'waa cool'. Kashafa dadka diinta u adeegsada danahooda ayaa diinta way u dhima. Marka is ilaali in aadan diinta wax u dhimin. In diinta been laga sheego ma fiicna. Marka 'cabainimo' iyo 'diin islaam' kala saar ina'ader.

^^^ He expressed himself perfectly fine and cowards and traitors should be shot in times of war. That is a common human law. It is treason not to defend your land in times of war. So what is wrong with me suggesting he should be killed? The law is on my side. You can check any law book in the world. All cultures including ours has such laws.

^^No yoyo- as long as you pay taxes you are OK, you will have rights, but not the privileges that come with citizenship.

Afkeenina ma nagu xaysataan? war bal dadkan eega. Meel walba intii aad soo dhaafteen ayaad maantana af Soomaaligii noogu timaadeen? Amxaaro dhulkeeni waad keenteen, dhaqankeenii waad nagula dagaalamaysaan hadana afkeeniina waad nagu haysataan. Is weydiiya bal xagee baad ku socotaan? xagee ayaad gaadhaysaan? Meesha aad ku socotaan bal noo sheega? Mise sheekadu waxay idinka tahay in Soomaalinimada un la baabi'iyo?

Naxar magaca Nugaal ayaad ceebaysay, Reer Nugaaleedku waa rag wadaniyiin ah, marka magaca ha kaga ciyaarin. Reer Nugaaleedku waa ragii xornimada Soomaaliyeed u soo halgamay, diigooda iyo maalkoodana ku gubay marka xishood. MMA I fully agree with you, Ethiopia is no phantom enemy. I in my naivete always thought if we are threatned by an external enemy that it would unite us. Yesterdays and todays comments have shown me that some are willing collaborators, others are qabiilists willing to do a deal as soon as possile, some would like to see the Somalis suffer forever, some are cowards and pacifits, and others are hiding behind Islam. I can group most of the SOL people in these groups. I have only seen 3 other people who seem to care, two are girls and the other one is you. What I think here is if only 10% of the Somali people today is willing to fight this enemy then thats enough. That 10% are the true Somalis who care about their nation. In the future Somalia maybe we should create a cast system. Citizens and Civilians. The ones who fight for their nation will be the citizens. While the others become the civilians. The citizens will get the advantages that come with citizenship such as voting power, the higher positions in the government, they will also control the armed forces. The civilians will get the right to live in the country as long as they pay taxes. The country belongs those who care about it and are willing to die in its defence. Think about it, this could be the future Somalia. Where citizenship is earned and it is not for free, because when something is free it is worthless and people like naxar and all others can claim to be Somalis. I have understood allot in the past two days. I have understood the dillema that Sayd Mohamed Abdulle Xasan faced. I understood why the make up the SYL 13 was like it was. I understood that Somalinimo is not something that you are born with. I understood that not all people are equal.

lol@jimcaale, what is bp? british pertolium?

Valenteenah thanx. Gediid, you are forgetting me and you are in the same boat, if I sink you sink with me

Xiin I remmembered this articles by bashir Goth who I normally dispise. About Ngonge, don't worry about him, he is a rife kalkaal. If he had any solutions we would have heard him. He has nothing to contribute except rooting for all things bad. by Bashir Goth This short piece was written on the 1st anniversary of the Somali website WardherNews There is a Somali wisdom that divides men into six categories: Nin Rag ah iyo Rag kalkaal, Rife iyo Rife Kalkaal, Abeeso laa iyo Ana waa i kan, to explain the riddle, it means Nin Rag ah (or a Real Man) is a man of initiatives who is bestowed with sound judgment and clear vision; a man whose ideas and proposals lead the clan to peace and prosperity. Rag Kalkaal or supporter of the Real Man is an honest man with good conscience who can appreciate and support the man of ideas and stand by him. Rife or shredder is one who tries to kill all good endeavors and pokes holes into every good idea; a man who is inhabited by evil demons and cannot stand to see good taking root in the society. Rife-kalkaal or shredder supporter is a man who is always ready to support the destructive ideas of Rife. Abeeso laa or snake-killer, in the traditional Somali nomad and rural culture, is the cobbler man who makes and mends shoes, or the artisan who makes handicrafts. Due to the nature of their work, these skilled men always practice their trade at the family camp or abode. Therefore, they became handy whenever the women of the clan encountered a danger such as snakes. These men are called for to help to kill the snakes, thus came their name snake-killer. Anna Waa i kan, or here I am too, is a man with low intelligence but lucky to be married to an intelligent woman. She keeps her eyes and ears open and whenever she comes to know that the men of the clan had met and decided to raise funds for a cause, she would send her husband with his contribution in hand and tell him to go to the meeting and tell them that you were there too to pay your share. He then would then go and say, " I am here too.

Just pathetic, I am feeling ashamed being Somali at the moment. That people like you and I share the same race and culture. I mean is this funny to you? Have you no self respect? I always thought there where atleast some decent Somalis but today you dissapointed me allot. May god curse the people like you for 20 generations to come. May you forever be refugees and beggars Amiin.