Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: maskiinkas na malo so degtey? I find it very difficult to take that some here ardently defend indho and aweys yet attack a poor man like ali. I could not help but laugh when ali described what happened to him in a horn-afrik interveiw: "I was told to get off of my car, then the guy got into my car and told a driver to came and drive him to mogadishu". Beliliqsi is back again. Naxar you never stop to amaze me, you are one weird guy. Crying for Ali Naafto? The man who could have had it all and threw it away? That spineless guy should be robbed. I am cheering those who robbed him because he should feel what he did to the Somali people, when he robbed Somali people of their state. He is not the only guily one, but he is guilty.

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: Me.....Lets work for justice, shall we?. No summary executions. Aree Cali Naafto Halaa iska daayo.He is no threat to anybody. Che I got my own hitlist and Cali Naafo is high on that list, but the list is very very long.

NSPU keep up the good work. NSPU Somali hero's

Who is paying for the mercenaries? The traitor president doesnt have the money to hire these folks.

Isn't Cali Mahdi the guy who destroyed Somalia in 1991, when we could have had a less bloody regime change. Cali Mahdi wax sharaf ah uu leeyahay ma jirto. He wasand still is an incompetant fool, they should have shot him there and then.

Tywania thanx, and please don't post teh rest of the face, we wanna remmember you in a good way don't kill it!

ok PERDY, Hear this sis, Follow your heart, do not listen to these people. They got their own problems and cant solvethem either. This whole love/relationship stuff is too complicated. Just do as you see fit, these people will only make you more confused. Never ask people who dont know you for advice. I hope yousolve this issue. Good luck sis and remmember there is nothing better then a broken heart. The only way to feel completein this worldis to have your heart broken in a severe way. Every song will start to make sense, food will taste better, you will feel alive again, you will feel like you have woken up from a coma. So just do as you see fot and remmember dont ask for advice.

next time you guys go AWOL tell us. BTW I didnt miss you, I HAVE A LIFE u know

Well one thing we know from our own experience is we know how to destroy societies. The world better watch out

Are there any entreperneurs here? Allot of money can be made in SA's 'security firms'. Think with me people, imagine if you offer protection to the Somali shops and ask for a fee, you would make allot of money. The protection is thr start of this racket. There are more than 300 Somali shops in Cape Town alone. If these shops pay you 30 Dollars a month you can make 9000 a month. With 9 thousand a month you can hire your own 'jirri' sqauds in the Cape Town area, the thugs are known, all you need to do is target the thugs and take them out, once you have taken out enough thugs the news will spread and you will have a secure income. You can also diversify you business, get into the protection of the Somalis in other cities, other communitiues, protection of transportation routes in Africa. The summegeling, drugs, arms trafficing etc etc. All this will be possible because you are taking caring of your own community, the Somali communities in SA will back you up because you will be their champion. in short, YOU CAN BE RICH, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT BIG. see this as a way of helping your people and helping yourself.

and ehhhh how did that saying go? "A nation is not conquered until the hearts of its women are on the ground. Then it is done, no matter how brave its warriors nor how strong their weapons." So Caraweelo's are your hearts on the ground?

The first phase is attack thier identity & symbols then attack the minds of their young. Make them feel hopeless. Make sure they do not develop themselves. Attack thier culture, attack thier language (undermine them). The second phase is make sure that they are weakend, mistrust each other, see themselves as each others mortal enemies and can not rely on each other (civil war is the best way in doing the second phase). The third phase is a simple divide and conquer resulting in the enslavement of that nation or the eradication of that nation.

The Somalis in SA should be aided. Running away is no option. If they chase us away from SA, they would not stop, the same tactics would be applied in Kenya, Uganda and all other countries where there are Somali owned businesses.

They are not waiting for you they are waiting for a brain transplantation. Secondly everything is wrong with being alone Thirdly navy blue huh? I didn't know faraxs came a greta variety of colours. I thought faraxs were judged on weight and mass. We learn something new evry day ehhh? And finally 53? have you counted them or is it just a random number.

And thats why devilagle is lonely...queue AKON

Rahima stop being so bitter. Yo-Yo-Ma it becomes teadius sometimes but most females don't get it. Anyhow good advice only please. Confused sista whatever happens do not get in fight-mood, try to find a solution.

Write him a letter about your concerns. Set up a meeting give him the letter and wait for him to contact you. Why a letter? because sometimes when people are talking or are in discussion they loose the plot. So prepare a letter that covers everything and even what you expect of him and how he can contact you. If he is still not forthcoming then do as Nubia suggested erase him (I know its hard 5 years) but wait for him for a while. Whatever happens DO NOT GO ON THE REBOUND TOUR. Deal with him first then try to move on.

hehehehh@Tone, How about a wivey from MIYI. Kidnap her while she is herding the sheep. thats how they did it in teh old days and you know there is nothing better then the old days Anyhow this discussion is pointless. If the females had a choice the majority of them would choose a happy marriage over a career. Ask any educated Somali female or the ones that are still studying. The reason why they want a career is because they want to be 'independant'. They want to be in control of their own destiny and this is because they have seen many Somali woman that choose to be a housewife and got divorced after 3 years with 3 kids. They do not want to be in that situation. So my fellow geeljires, first Somali men should provide a happy home then maybe these Caraweelos would stay at home. Few questions for the Caraweelo's - After you get married will you stop working? - If you have kids will you stop working? - If your partner can provide for your family would you rather stay at home or working?

Mr.Red Sea I am not from the states, so I haven't seen the commercial, will look it up. Hmmmm So I can get anything I want if I push that button? Hmmmmm How many times can I push the button?

We all understand why Somalis in SA are being targeted. Its not because of racism but because the criminals know we are 'soft' or easy targets. The Somalis in South Africa should organize themselves. I have many South African friends, whites, colourds and blacks. They tell me that everyone in SA is suffering from these crimes its not only the Somalis. The whites have dealt with the crime against them by using 'security firms' that deal with the thugs that target them. The security firm by Louis van Schoor is a perfect example. http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2006/08/05/2003321890 The muslims in South Africa have also dealt with the criminals in cape town in a harsh way, by burning them alive. Nowadays the muslim area's in Cape Town are among the safest. People Against Gangsterism and Drugs (PAGAD is a mainly Muslim anti-crime organization. http://www.ndsn.org/sept96/pagad.html The Somalis should follow these two groups. The police can not be trusted. A Somali security firm should be established. The problem with SA is that there are too many guns in circulation even the Somalis in SA are armed but one gun will not safe them. They should go after the killers and judge them themselves.

Hmmmm Stalin my idol . The staples store commercial??? whats a staples??? I haven't seen it so I am sorry. I am just a natural born button pusher. Red buttons are my fetisj. I am glad to have seen so many button pushers in one place. Now I know I am 'normal'. Ngogne you are something else, I will let you know when I find out what that is. At the moment I am gambeling on a nihilist.

Ismaciil ali ismaciil is one of my favorite columnists and he makes good points but I can not stand the TFG bringing in Ethiopians into Somalia. I am sorry but on this one, I will side with those willing to fight our arch enemy.

This is a crime epidemic in SA. Tahliil, this is happening in major urban area's. Kayalitsha and Mitchels plain are parts of Cape Town. Jo'burgs city center was vacated by big businesses because of the crime epidemic. Its just now that the SA government is trying to get a grip on crime in SA. Crime also treatns the World Cup in SA. Guns are readily available in SA and its a extremely violent society. In my experience from SA, everyone gets affected by crime about a million whites have left SA since the end of apartheid because of the violence. Johannesburg is more dangerous then Mogadisho. On daily basis more people were being killed in Johanesburg then in Mogadisho in the 1990's. Jo'burg was the murder capital of the world four years in a row. I don't SA's crime statistics nowadays but its still bad I think. My advice to the Somalis would be form your own gangs and fight fire with fire. Follow the example of the SA muslims, who have dealt with the criminls in a brutal way. The Somalis are beaning targeted this heavily because they are a 'soft' target. I hope they can unite to fight these people, relocating or leaving the country is no option for most Somalis in SA so its time to fight back. This climate would be great for Somali organized crime. Any volunteers in starting up the Somali mafia in SA? In return for 'protection' the shopkeepers can pay a fee and the Somali mafia will take care of the undesirables. If this thing continues in a year I will go to SA and start my own 'Organisatsza'.

^^^Stop being so bitter, lets discuss this matter without spewing venom, Thank you

Btw congratulations!!!