Khalaf where is the Jihad then? You are sleeping my friend, Jihad is in Somalia. The Jihad is for Somalinimo and Islamnimo combined. If you only truelly opened your eyes. The Saudi's that have sponsored your thinking are sipping their 'casiir' while our people suffer. Fukk the A-rabs may they suffer forever like we have suffered. No one is our friend here, its just the 20 million of us. To hell with this world,if we can't have it no one will, where is that red button?

Hahahahahahah, this guy is a comedian Greater Ethiopia? Cushia? hahahahahahaha. Thanks for the laugh OLOL. See this guy is the opposition against Meles Zenawi. When they take over they will do the same as Meles Zenawi nothing will change the struggle will continue. We need a solution for the Ethiopian 'highlanders' problem.

Hahahahahahah, this guy is a comedian Greater Ethiopia? Cushia? hahahahahahaha. Thanks for the laugh OLOL. See this guy is the opposition against Meles Zenawi. When they take over they will do the same as Meles Zenawi nothing will change the struggle will continue. We need a solution for the Ethiopian 'highlanders' problem.

Khalaf you and many others overhere. Have many shirts and many hats. You switch like a faggot, pardon my afxumo. I have one shirt, its blue, wuuna igu gaboobay, shaadh kalena hadii aan soo iibsado buluug buu ahaanayaa. I am well know with ina laba pac iyo gabayadiisa. As you might know Only God Can Judge me now is one of my favorites. Anyhow just be thankful that Somalinimo iyo surwaal gaabnimo maanta inay isku meel ka soo wada jeedaan. Cadawga guud aan maanta iska wada celino, teena maalin kale ayaan ka wada shiri doonaaye.

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: So, when are you going there? Home dat's. Alle-Ubaahne ha isku haleen. Afkalay ka nool yahay. Cid laysku haleenayo ma jirto. Nin walbaa wa in uu tiisa isku haleeyo. Inshalah mar dhow ayaa la wada noqonayaa. Hada waa la diyaar garoobayaa. waana la eegayaa meeshii sheekada lagala qabsan lahaa.

^^^hehehhehe Qarxis

Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: We will smoke them out of our country, IA. Let's all concentrate the enemy, not their stoogies, for now. The enemy and those who work with them are the same. We can't choose our enemies they have choosen us. The targets should however be legitamate targets. Killing civilians or innocent people will only harm the Somali cause. The enemies stooges are a legitamate target. We need an either you are for us or against us mentality.

Yeps so it begings. Lets wait for the dabadhilifs reaction and how they try to hide this and make it seem like the innocent man that got killed was a 'terrorist'.

You have raised few interesting points, however as I have stated before Somalia's current problems are linked very much with the colonial era and the subsequent division of our lands. Since you have not been able to see the link for yourself I might as well break it down for you. The Somalis today are a nation of approximately 20 to 23 million. About 12 million Somalis live in The Republic of Somalia. Approximately 7 million Somalis live under the brutal dictatorship of Meles Zenawi's Ethiopia. About 3 million live in the Kenyan occupied Somali territories. There are about half a million Somalis living in Djibouti today. Before the colonization the Somalis lived together as one Nation in their lands on the Horn of Africa with their culture, their self sufficient economy and in harmony with their natural environment. The Somalis and their neighbours balanced each other out without there being a clear victor. When the colonial forces (The British, Italian & French) came to Somalia, they divided the nation into spheres of influence. In their spheres of influence they used mostly indirect rule. They armed and supported certain clans while oppressing and fighting other clans. It was classic divide and rule. These divide and rule tactics worked very well. Even today when we are discussing Somali's colonial past there are those who glorify the colonial rule there are others who sympathise with the Somali resistance fighters. Some of the conflicts today's especially in Northern Somalia are linked directly with events that occurred during the colonial occupation of Somalia. The colonials also shaped Somalia after its Independence. The 'elite' that took over after the colonial troops left our country were mostly hand picked and educated in London and Rome by the colonials. They were advised by the Italians and the British. It was as if nothing had changed, its was the same colonization with a twist. It was colonization by proxy. The new rulers of Somalia also manipulated clan sentiments for their political games. The interference of the colonials didn't stop or end there. The colonials always had their allies in every Somali administrations. Even major rebel groups in Somalia were founded or financially supported by the former colonials. The division of our land and GIVING it away to our neighbours was clearly not in the interests of the Somali people. It was done so that we would always be at war with our neighbours. The 64 war and the 77 war were direct result of the colonial policies in Somalia. The refugee crisis that followed that war, was the direct result of the colonial rule. This war devastated the Somali economy. It had also weakened the Somali armed forces. The limited resources in the country opened the way for nepotism and even greater levels of corruption. So do you still follow me? Can you see the link with colonialism? Originally posted by ThePoint: As to blaming all or even a majority of the problems on colonialism - that is a non-starter. Colonialism did not produce the mass orgy of rape, murder, loot and destruction never before seen in Somali history that happened in the 1990s. Yes colonialism is responsible for what happened in the 80's and 90's in Somalia. Colonialism created the division and hate that was responsible for the mass orgy of rape, murder, loot and destruction that we saw in Somalia. Where does the mistrust come from? Do you think that people just woke up one day and said hey lets kill fellow Somalis, fellow Muslims, fellow human beings? This was organized, orchestrated and premeditated. This was coming for a long long time. Originally posted by ThePoint: Positivity is the way forward for all matters but the practicality of daily life calls for a step by step process. Again, one must crawl before one can run.[/QB] One must have somewhere to crawl to or RUN to. Just crawling or running around like a headless chicken won't get you anywhere. Somalinimo and Somaliweyn are complete ideals. They are not just lets fix my village and we will see how it goes . It is narrow minded to just think that every thing will be alright when we have a good government. BTW Whats a good government? Or whats good governance? Wouldn't it be good government or good governance to think about issues that affect Somalia in drastic ways to think strategic, to think about the long term. The Ethiopian menace must be dealt with once and for all. For security reasons Somalia can not have a strong Ethiopia as a neighbour. We need a friendly and pacified Ethiopia. We need an Ethiopia that can be a loyal trading partner, a democratic and peaceful Ethiopia that can be our ally. Somalia is rapidly becoming a desert state and the Ethiopians want to cut of the Shabele and Juba rivers. If they do that it will destroy the agricultural production in Southern Somalia and lead to famines and population displacements. Do you think that that's acceptable? does it matter whether we are Somaliweyn or Somaliyar if they are actively sabotaging us? There are million and one reasons why we need to deal with Ethiopia. Its not just because of the land they occupy. The whole existence of a state as big, 'powerful' and irresponsible as Ethiopia is unacceptable for the Somalis. Originally posted by ThePoint: For me - I feel a kinship with, firstly, Muslims and particularly Somalis no matter where they are. That feeling of unity is not diminished by borders or passports. [/b] [/QB] Don't hide behind Islam and religion while you are clearly ignoring the Islamic message of resistance against injustice. I can tell you that its not very Islamic to say, yea you can keep our land, oppress our people and we will turn the other cheek. Brotherly love, unity bla bla bla doesn't work in reality. This is about survival and for our survival we need to deal with our enemies. We do not have the luxury to hide our heads in the sand. Islam is not a mix and march, pick and mix religion. The Ideology of Greater Somalia is not just expansionism. Its uniting a divided and small, weak nation so that it can be transformed into a regional super power that can serve its people interests and guarantee regional stability. Ethiopia is a regional bully. They are at war with Eritrea, they support the rebels in eastern and southern Sudan, they extort Djibouti, they conduct cross border raids in Kenya and kill Kenyan policemen, they support warlords and druglords in Somalia. Ethiopia has also sent its army into Somalia and that's a clear violation against the UN's arms embargo on Somalia. Ethiopia is an irresponsible state and they need to be stopped. We are in our right defend our self against Ethiopian agression. Somaliweyn, Somalinimo and dealing with our regional enemies are ideas that reinforce each other.

^^Positivity is the way forward when it comes to these matters. Many of Somalia's problems are the results of Somalia's colonization and the subsequent partition or our lands. Maybe critical thinking from you is too much to ask for. Somalia doesn't need pessimists today, or narrow minded individuals, Somalia needs visionaries. Originally posted by ThePoint: ^Somali-weyn??? Have we made much progress on Somali-yer? Is there the trust that is needed to unite the various groups in Somalia proper - let alone other areas? Can't we learn to crawl and stand before looking to fly? This sort of grandiose, self-deluding chatter is, unfortunately, far too common for Somalis. Its ironic that the person that wrote the text quoted above should accuse the Somali nation of self-deluding chatter. It could be that you lost hope or that you wish that we loose hope. Somaliaweyn and Somalinimo are two concepts that are inseparable. Somaliyar is a non starter. Somaliyar has nor functioned because it never stood a chance, everything was against it from the start. Imagine that Somaliweyn is a human being. Imagine that person being cut into 5 pieces and then after a while putting 2 pieces back together, do you believe that that person will function in a normal way? The only way that Somalia will be functioning in a normal way is when Somaliweyn is realized. I hope that you can understnad that Somaliweyn is not just putting lands together. Its also re-uniting our people. Its about freeing our brothers and sisters under black colonization. That are oppressed, brutalized and marginalized. Somaliweyn and Somalinimo are ideals worth sacrificing for. These ideals are the building blocks of Somali national consciousness. They can not be erased by just 16 years of civil war. As long as there are people called Somalis, they will be fighting for their re-unification and the peaceful coexistence with their neighbours.

They are mixing Caraweelo with Caraale(h) Caraweelo=100% feminine.

^^Racist. Come on see the other side of this. We might want to migrate to Central Africa one day and say its ancestoral lands. (I am always talking about taking other peoples land, SOLérs might think I am from Mudug)

^^Huh? gaasta miyaad cabtaa? mise saabuuntaad cuntaa? ThePoint, if only I had the energy for naac naac at your level today. Fortunatly for you I only sparr with fish bigger then you. So let me just tell you that I atleast believe in something. I believe in my nation. What do you believe in? we are not of the same caliber. I am nin rag ah and your rife. Waxaana kuugu duceynayaa in aad maalin maalmahan ka mid ah af Soomaaliga ugu maahmaahdid ugana faantid sidaa aad af ingiriiska ugu faantid. Originally posted by ThePoint: BTW - your posts have gone done precipitously - the mods/admin took scythe to your stuff eh! The Mods or Adim, have never complained about my posts. I debate in a fair and balanced way. I make up my own mind and I do not jump up and down. I am consistant and everyone who has been coming to SOL in the past 4 months knows that I believe in 1 thing and thats Somalinimo. Tribal sentiments do not form my opinions. I hope that one day that you can say the same. You have accused me of having multiple login names. I just want to say to you, that I wish that I had the time to play around here on SOL. As you may have noticed my posts have gone down and thats because I got a job and I am no longer an unemployed farax , yes Mr. Red Sea, camal aan yeeshay. Anyhow I do know that I did hit your raw nerve when I pointed out your dabadhilifnimo and maskax yaraan. My advice to you is don't worry, there are millions like you around. Waa laydiin talinayaa. Soomaalida runta ah oo wadankooda jecel ayaa Soomaaliya iska leh. Dabadhilifiinta meesha la geeyo waa la arki doonaa.

^^ Are we trying to be funny? if you are, you should know that you need at least two smiley’s to make me grin. Anyhow...........to hell with dem. When Sayd Maxamed Cabdile Xasan was fighting the foreigners in our country and he wanted to unite and liberate our nation allot of dabadhilifs mocked him, allot of hypocrites talked shit. Today it’s like nothing has changed. Just look on SOL. (Yes I am talking about General Duke, Oodweyne and their likes) I (Me) will support my nation in these dark days. This is not about qabiil, it’s about the survival of our nation. I will never bow to anyone, just like the hero of our nation Sayd Maxamed Cabdile Xasan never bowed to any man and my nation, the Somali nation will bow to no one. We were born free. We will die free. We will never become Amxaaro slaves. Death before dishonour. So I will ride with the ICU and all Somali forces that stand for unity and Somalinimo.

Idinku isu jiibiya un, naf kale meesha kuma haysaan. About land disputes...well...........Daku wey bahaloobeen. Gardaro iyo sharcidaro badina wadanka oo dhan wey ka jirtaa. Xaaraantina waa laysku raacay. Cid cid dhaanta ma jirto. Anigo waxaan ogahay laakiin in Hargeysa ay ka darantahay Muqdisho marka la eego sharciga dhulka dadka iyo guryihii dadka. Muqdisho wax waa la kala iibsadaa, cid walbana wey ogtahay dhulka dadka iska leh. Hargeysa laakiin indha adeeg iyo sharci daro badan ayaa ka jirta. Anigu waxaan ka hadlayaa saan anigu wax u arkay.

Couldnt care less about their qabiil, they are atleast Somalis and not Amxaaro.

She killed men, thats the only thing these savages need from a role model. Originally posted by Devilangle: Isnt Arawelo the scary woman that ate little kids No that one was Dhagdheer. Originally posted by bilan: lol araweelo did not eat kids, one of the 10 things that araweelo adviced women on her death bed was: dumoroow gardaro ogaada boohin ku dara garawshiiyo aad hesheene. She must have been one spoiled female.

We need more of these articles and less of the warmongerng. Its always nice to hear good news from the motherland.

Lazy and Socod Badne have shown us that opposites do attract.

Originally posted by me: lazy waa baac. The comment above is intended as a provocation.

To be honest, I believe that this whole `Ámerican Democracy´is a bit orchastrated. I think the Democrats will win and they wil win 2008 too. Bring back the troops, rehabilitate the US´s image etc etc. The US needs some face saving. What better way then to let Bush loose BIG so that they can claim that their democracy works and blame everything on Bush. They are playing good cop bad cop. Democrats and Republicans are the reer Mudug of the USA.

come onnnnnnnnnnnn, we have been there before and done that to death. This time it will be different. I say an attempted assasination or a bomb attack. They need drastic measures to win votes this time.

me, but thats now 2 months ago (it might explain the explosion of my SOL posts)

Congrats Dudette, hopedfully u won´t settle for a BA. If you wanna run with this cru that is, u better get few more titles! Originally posted by Mr. Red Sea: congradualations Passion. May I know what you graduated into? You dissapoint me dude , just read what she wrote.

My favorites are: Ismaciil Mire ( The warrior poet) & Cilmi Boodheri (The love Docter) If you are really interested, just research those guys work, I promise you, you won't be dissapointed.