Che be careful with your words...its De-faqas-hized.

Ma dilaal baad noqotay

I would never want to live in a house like that if the people on the street where that house is built are dying of hunger. It's just immoral to show wealth like that. Why not live in a modest and support people from the community instead of just being a show off. The house of my choice would be a house thats equal with the house of the poorest of the country I live in. Inequality is never a great thing, everybody should enjoy a good living standard.

He was in every right to crush those rebellions. We had a thread about this remmeber? Do you want to rivive it?

^^Xanaaq badanaa! Cudurka iska dawee aboowe. These mental scarrs will not heal unless u deal with them. My advice to you is see a docter or talk to people, this hate will effect your head, it might cause mental illnesses.

Claacal badanaa! Red Sea, its time to choose sides man, the enemy wants to see us divided. Side with us! Side with Unity and Brotherhood. Division only weakens us, choose the path of those two brothers, it takes courage to do the right thing. Don't let hate cloud ur judgements. Jaylaani, jabuuti hadaad ku soo kortay Somalia maxaad ka taqaanaa? You see things Black and white, Somalia is all shades of grey, be careful man, Somalia is quicks and for people liek you, who don't know where loyalties lie. Don't let folks like Red Sea fool you, they know what they are talking about, they know that Somalia will always be one and will never be divided.

Just google or look at youtube what foreign troops have done in our country in the 90's. What the Canadians have done What the Belgians have done What the Americans have done What the Italians have done What the French have done Just google or look at youtube, for the killings, torture and rape. Foreign troops are not welcome in Somalia. especially not Ethiopians our enemy. those that support foreign troops now should think now before its too late. once the raping, killings and torture starts, we know who they are and we know who invited the foreign troops. They will be held accountable.

No he wasn't. Barre was bad for Somalia. Barre was weak, he should have been stronger. The problem with Barre was he wasn't bad enough. he wasn't a real dictator.

thanx NSPU!

I totally agree with you peacenow! But ehhhhh what do you suggest? what do you think that can be done? You raised few interesting points and Arabs have never been our friends, just like no one is our friend. We the Somalis now know that we are all we got and that no one wishes us well only harm, so how can we change these things? How can we save our language, our culture, our heritage and our selves from extinction?

General Duke , no reply for your kind.

Stop Bsing. There is no Somalia if more then half of the Somali peoples land is occupied. War is the only way to cleans our past, untill you feel what the Somali people in the occupied regions have endured. Talk peace all you like, we know what Xabash peace mean. Our forefathers might have been gentlemen and might have believed that the xabash was a man of honour, but we speak the only language that your kind understnads, that of the sword. I thank god for the opportunity we are about to get. Thank you xabash for giving us a reason for finish Axmad Gureys work. My only advice to you is fear us and flee. Harar will be the new capital of the free Cushite States. Ethiopia is an illegitimate state and it will be disbanded.

Why are you entertaining this Xabash? He is paid for this, these people are paid to make trouble in Somali forums and chats, I am gonna do the same in xabash websites. Dear Xabash, this is the scenario, we will kill you all or you will bow to us. There is no talking, no middle ground. We will finish Axmed Gureys work. The prophet might have given you Xabash's peace, but I am not very strict on religion. So lets stop talking and get to war. Let the weak Somalis die off so that strong Somalis can take over. Lets get down to natural selection. Let the Somalis that deserve Somalia live or let us all die.

Somalia War, a gimmick to divert Ethiopian attention (Sudan Tribune) Thursday 30 November 2006 22:30. By Abdi Galgalo* Nov 30, 2006 — With the World focused on an imminent all-out civil war looming in Iraq and the Middle East at large, the warlords in the horn of Africa are gearing up to show the world the mother of all civil wars. Totally consumed by the Middle East crisis, the world has turned away from the Somalia crisis, an unfortunate development taken by Ethiopian government as a green signal to begin its adventure in Somalia. The U.S. is half-attentively pushing for a U.N draft resolution to allow foreign troops including Ethiopia’s in Somali, a recipe that may provide the full momentum for a grandiose disaster in the region. The Union of Islamic Court (UIC) that has now controlled most of Somalia has brought unprecedented peace and stability to the Somali people after 15 years of mayhem. Despite its apparent success, the UIC has neither been supported nor has the weak interim government been encouraged to work with UIC to bring permanent stability in Somalia. The reason is simply that the West’s policy in Somalia is predominated by their Islam-paranoia. Meles regime is effectively exploiting this paranoia and has been distorting the reality to make the West believe that the UIC poses threat of terrorism. What Meles desires to get out of creating fear is to be elevated to the status of policing/caretaker of the horn region, for which he anticipates support from the West that gives him the capacity to extend the horizon of its tyranny beyond the borders of Ethiopia. The tyranny under which the peoples of Ethiopia and the Oromo people in particular, are living defies the imagination. The brutal dictator of Ethiopia has gained notoriety for his violent suppression of dissenting voices, and the regime has been directly responsible to the genocide of the Anuaks, the Oromos, and other nations and nationalities of Ethiopia. This genocide is still ongoing. The minority regime of Meles Zenawi has managed to pull the wool over the West’s eyes while he was busy committing these atrocities. Genocide Watch and other widely-respected international NGOs have documented the genocide committed against the Anuak people of Ethiopia in 2003 by uniformed soldiers of the Ethiopian Defense Force1. On the 2001’s World Conference against Racism, the genocide of Oromos and other people was also brought to the world’s attention by the Oromia Support Group. Other NGOs have also produced similar alerts. The menace of the regime on the Oromo people has also been committed on the Sovereign territories of neighboring countries. The regime of Meles Zenawi is accustomed to violating the sovereignty of Ethiopia’s neighbors and uses its military power to intimidate neighboring governments into no reaction. It has been reported by various media that Ethiopian defense force has made frequent incursions since 1992 into Somalia and Kenya in pursuit of Oromo refugees that the regime alleges to be members and sympathizers of the Oromo Liberation Front (O.L.F) - a politico-military movment that enjoys support from the vast majority of Oromos. The Meles’ regime has cowed the Kenyan government to be complacent to the Ethiopian troop’s abuse of Kenyan citizens and in many instances, the Kenyan government has indeed cooperated in the rounding up and mistreatment of Oromo refugees in Kenya as well as Kenyans of Oromo descent. The Meles’ regime has gone as far as running the Kenyan court that was hearing the cases of Oromos. This testifies to the extremely aggressive nature of the Ethiopian regime in dealing with real or perceived dissidents that has clearly taken a form of ethnic cleansing. The regimes’ tyranny knows no national boundaries! The Ethiopia’s interference in the Somali’s affair may come as news to those who have never known the existence of a terrorizing regime in Ethiopia. After denying for so long the eyewitness accounts on the presence of Ethiopian troops inside Somalia, Meles Zenawi has recently acknowledged the presence of his troops in Somalia. His own sham parliament members were as oblivious as the rest of the world to this activity of Ethiopian troops. In his usual and blatant way, Meles zenawi, without consulting the parliament, has single handedly declared that his regime has finished preparation for official war with Somalia’s UIC. The war-cry of Meles Zenawi is nothing but a gimmick to divert the attention of the Ethiopian public and international community from the real internal political tensions to an outside deliberately created problem. After falling from grace, the Prime Minister Meles Zenawi is facing immense resistance both at home and internationally for its continual atrocities against the peoples of Ethiopia. With an increasing unpopularity in the West, the Meles is desperately seeking a cause that makes him the West’s lap-dog in order to receive the support he needs to thrive as a tyrant. The fact of the matter is there is no tangible evidence that implicate the UIC as a threat to Ethiopia and the rest of the world. The UIC has given ample time for the world to realize their sincerity to bring peace and stability to Somalia. In a bid to show off their achievement, the UIC has recently invited U.S. authorities to visit the capital Moqadishu. Such a genuine gesture has been ignored and the U.S. backed U.N resolution is being drafted as we speak to lend ‘legitimacy’ to Meles’ regime invasion of Somalia to prop up the weak interim government. This news came few days after the Ethiopian regime declared its readiness to engage the UIC militarily. It seems that Meles Zenawi has once again succeeded in duping the West! Meles is not your average dictator- he also knows how to sucker the West. The U.S., the U.N. and all concerned parties should be awakened to the fact the Meles Zenawi is deliberately trying to create chaos in the region hoping to emerge as a stabilizing force. When his undemocratic nature is unveiled, Meles is frantically trying to jump on the “war on terror” bandwagon by fabricating fear. This appears to be his last token to draw off cash from the West to finance further massacre of the peoples of Ethiopia, and his main targets-the Oromos. This will undoubtedly prolong the anguish of Ethiopians, the Somalis, and all the people in the region. At a time when the policies of the West is being resented by people in the Middle East, the last thing the West should be doing now is creating more regions that are desperate and resentful. After failing gravely in the Middle East, the West should finally wisen up on how they deal with troubled regions where tyrannical regimes have taken hold of peoples’ lives.

Xog ogaal xishood. Ha naysku keen dirin. Mr. Red Sea owes me koob shaah ah. About the xabash soldiers, I don't know what to do. Thank the Xabashs for the opportunity we are about to get or get angry. No one will destroy the US, the US will destroy itself. No one destroyed Somalia, Somalia destroyed it self. No one will destry Ethiopia, Ethiopia is destroying itself as we speak. Just see for yourself. They are doing more harm to Ethiopia then we will ever be able to do. lets help them a hand in their mission for national suicide.

^^ You can say whatever you want, but we both know that Ethiopia is a very irresponsible state. It has problems with all of its neighbours. You took Sudan as an example, but wasn't it Ethiopia that sent its army into Southern Sudan, wasn't it Ethiopia that was supporting the SPLA? Isn't it Ethiopia that has been killing, torturing and raping Somali women in Western Somalia? Isn't it Ethiopia that was carrying out cross border raids into Kenya? Isn't it Ethiopia that is ignoring the Algiers agreement? isn't it Ethiopia that fought a war with Eritrea? isn't it Ethiopia that is occupying Somali lands? isn't it Ethiopia that's arming Somali warlords, isn't it Ethiopia that assassinated Somali intellectuals and higher military officers? isn't it Ethiopia that has its troops in Somalia? Isn't it Ethiopia that has been destabalizing Somalia for the past 16 years (if not more) If this is Ethiopia as our friend, we don't need an Ethiopia as our enemy. Conditions for peace with Ethiopia are. 1. Giving the Somali people living in the current Ethiopia the right for self determination. 2. Non-interference with our internal policies. 3. Restitution for the damages caused by the Ethiopian oppression of the Somali people. If not then lets see, where this gets us. Millions Somalis might die, but Ethiopia will go down with us. The wrongs should be sett right or there will never be peace. No one in the Horn of Africa will ever enjoy peace or prosperity as long as there is injustice in the region. The colonials have set a trap for us and the Ethiopians are still slaves of the colonials and they are still doing the dirty work of the colonials. No one can argue that Ethiopia wasn't colonized, Ethiopia was mentally colonized and is still colonized. back in the days Ethiopia did the dirty work for the British Empire, now Ethiopia is doing the dirty work for the American Empire. Ethiopia should become independent and do whats in its own interest. Peace and prosperity are in its interest. No war and poverty. To avoid war and poverty, there should be justice. If we resolve our issues in a just and peaceful manner, maybe one day we will have our own union in the Horn of Africa.

, easy waan kaa neefinayaa. Xanaaqaagi ayaa soo dhow.

I don't do hear says and anocdotes, please provide sources and links if you want me to get deeper in what you are claiming. I haven't known Siad barre so I don't know what you are talking about. About you not being able to reaosn with me, well thats because I call a spade a spade. I won't mince my words for people like you, no need to be PC.

Either you don't know what you write or you are a liar, which one is it Mr. Red Sea? Are you incompetent or just a hypocrite?

^^Atleast I have dreams and am not lost like you seem. Atleast I have ideals while you harbour hate. Atleast I am honest while you are a hypocrite and a liar. Oodweyne is a clown, he preaches to the choir. He never gets his points across, he should go and follow classes with General Duke.

Originally posted by Red Sea: you may try to use offenseive slander however,my skin is too thick for that to penetrate You mean your skull. To answer your questions: 1. Islam is the religion of Unity not division. You have asked me this before and I had proovided you with a quranic verse, yet you were not convinced. So disagree with me and say that Islam doesnt support unity instead of disunity. 2. Secondly, your were appologysing for faysal cali waraabe and everyone can see that, read for yourself if you don't see yourself excusing his behavior and downplaying his rethorics. Originally posted by Red Sea: Inadeer Soo Maal,I think I was being misunderstood here,so let me try to make it clear if you don't mind. Mr.Faysal Cali Waraabe made threats against Las Anod city of Sool,therefore,my comments were regarding since this wasnt' hate speech as our brother Garaad Canood puts it ,but rather a threat,which I commented on by saying,that Faysal Cali Warabe hasn't gotten the authority to declare war,therefore his comments are nonexistant. As you know Soo maal,no Muslim should justify the fact that one threatens other Muslims in order to create fear in their hearts,for that I appose and dismiss his comments,because as a Muslim I know it's not right to threaten someone, and Las Anod of all people,because I could argue Burco and Las Anod are two homes in the same neighborhood resided by inaabtiyo and members of the same families,which makes it even strange. As for Garaad Caanood,dear brother don't be sensitive,try to calm yourself and understand the man who has made the comments has no authority to declare war on Las Anod,therefore you shouldn't make it big deal of something that is going to happen. I don't know where you have been hiding,threates like this are made everyday on all corners. Follow your own advice and don't take this personal.

I am not fighting for Indhacade or any of those thugs but for my country and for the freedom of my children. If A/Y came up with real plans and became a real Somali leader instead of a Xabash stooge then I might have been convinced of his good intentions, but A/Y's has so far shown us spinelessness and corruption. We have seen his shady dealings now imagine if he was in real power and had total control. For the most Somali's today this is above clan or any other narrow interest, its for the Resurrection of Somaliweyn. The wadaads have won, whether you realize it or not, they have woken the Giant, Somalia is awake and there is no one that will make it go back to sleep again and we thank the wadaads for their efforts, even though the wadaads tell us that Nationalism is a bad thing, nationalism is the only thing keeping them going now. The wadaads are the voice of the silenced majority and now that silenced majority is choosing its own destiny. We choose to be free from clannism and division and we choose for unity and prosperity, whats A/Y's answer? Send xabash soldiers? A/Y should step down and save himself the disgrace, he should step down if he doesn't want to be remembered as the man that brought the Ámxaaro to Somalia. He should save us all the bloodshed. Whatever happens this is the moment of truth for the Horn of Africa, Whoever wins will dismantle the other one. If we win the Prison of Nations called Ethiopia will be demolished and all the slave nations will be sett free. If Ethiopia wins then there will be one more slave nation added to that prison. Its simple we liberate, they occupy.

Dream on General my money and my gun are with the wadaads. The choice was easy, I rather wear a surwaal gaaban then live in a clannish dictatorship. A Xabash wont tell me how to live in Somalia and if A/Y wins it would mean we would be a Xabash Satalite state and they would rule us by proxy. I rather die then let that happen.

^^Time to get over the geeljire mentality, its kinda backward wouldn't you say?

huh, come again?