Well done, know ur place, be the narrow minded 'rational' tribalist. It is not name callings to state the obvious, one has to read your previous posts to see what kind of a guy you are and how much of a tribalist you are. When you start thinking about the common Somali interrests and stop supporting your local warlord, we can talk.

Also give suggestions on who can replace Mr. Red Sea.

I need to get a new hobby and leave Red Sea alone. Please give me your opinion.

^^^UR full of BS as usuall. One minute ur a tribalist and supporting ur local warlord and you enjoy the suffering of fellow Somalis, the next minute when we talk about ways of bringing peace to the whole of Horn of Africa, you are condemming war. Its very funny indeed. Either be a pacifist or shut up, don't be double faced with us here.

I suggest a section, thats about advertisement. Like if you need a guitar teacher, you can place a small add. Or if you are looking for a maths tutor, etc etc. Or if your selling ur old comp, ur wedding dress etc. You know what I mean. A section thats all about trading services and selling stuff.

MMA was right, but the ICU is doing a good job. MMA is saying what he thinks and I support that. We don't have to be 100% for ICU. As long as we know on which points we support them. I do not support Arab cultural invasion of Somalia, but when the brothers of the ICU are fighting the Am-xaar, I will side with my Somali brothers against the foreign invaders. Somalinimo unites us. It doesn't matter whether we are surwaalgaab or not, we will fight the aggressors. This war will be a great oppurtunity for us all. Don't look at the down side alone, Somali's would have died with or without invasion, they have been dying for the past 16 years. When the invaders come we defeat them and dismantle them forever. We are now getting the oppurtunity to deal with the aggressors for once and for all. Lets unite and fight for peace in the Horn of Africa. Ethiopia is an irresponsible state, its a regional bully and it needs to be stopped, who is better equiped to stop this bully then Somalia? We have a history of teaching this bully lesson's from Axmed Guray's era to the 80's. Lets finish Axmed Guray's work.

Badacase, Why are you on one hand claiming to support islam and on the other hand defending the dismenberment of Somalia.? Islam supports unity not disunity. You are going in against teh teachings of Islam if you want to dismenber an Islamic nation.

^^ Islam and Unity By Professor Maqsood Jafri Unity is strength. When the sand grains unite they become a vast desert. When the sea drops unite they become a boundless ocean. The conglomeration of stars in the firmament of sky soothes our eyes. The seven colors emerge in the shape of a bewitching rainbow. The unity of people makes an invincible strong nation. This is the reason Islam lays great stress on the importance of unity. The Islamic concept of Towhid is the other name of the unity of humankind. The corner stone in Islam is the unity of God. Allah’s unity teaches us the message that we should not divide humans into sections and sects. Almighty Allah in the Quran says that the division of people in the races and clans is only for their introduction. The best one out of them is the man of piety. Dr. Mohammad Ali Al-khuli is his book titled “The Light of Islam” writes. “Islam is the greatest unifying force in the world. It is a religion to all humans regardless of color, race and language. It is a religion that tolerates other religions and orders its followers to respect and protect all humans.” According to a Hadith of the Holy Prophet all persons belong to Adam and Adam was from soil. The racial discrimination has been strictly prohibited in Islam. In the last sermon from the Mount of Arafat the Holy Prophet had clearly announced that no Arab has any superiority over a non-Arab; or the white over the black. This is the reason that in Muslim countries we do not find racial discriminations. Islam gives clear injunctions for the respect, safety, security and prosperity of the non-Muslims as well. Unity teaches peace, equality and paternity. The absence of unity brings and breeds disruption, devastation and disputes. Islam ordains protection of non-Muslims simply to show the respect for the Canons of divinity and humanity. God is not only of the Muslims. God is the God of all human beings. The unity of all humans is the ultimate aim of the teachings of Islam. The doctrinal and ideological differences should not lead to war or bloodshed. Man is a thinking creature. Aristotle, the Greek philosopher introduced Rationalism in Philosophy. The Quran time and again asserts on the need of cogitation. “Ijtihad” is an analogical and analytical approach towards the matters of jurisprudence. Ashab-e-Suffa were the people of wisdom. They gave more time to cogitate on social and academic matters along with their saintly and spiritual practices. They were praised by the Holy Prophet for their involvement in intellectual pursuit. Once the Holy Prophet said: “The juristic scholar who receives two rewards for every correct decision and even one for every incorrect one, for he is endeavoring with all his effort to reach the correct decision.” The difference of opinion must be positive. It should not lead to prides and prejudices of priests. It should be decent difference on the bases of logic like the differences of Philosophers. Aristotle was the pupil of Plato. He differed from his teacher on many points but he never issued the edict of his assassination. Hegel and Bergson differed. Immunel Kant differed with Nietzche. None cursed or condemned the other. These differences were on principles; not personal. But unfortunately the so called scholars and clerics of different religions brought immense misery to mankind in the name of religion. The Jews, the Christians, the Muslims, the Hindus, the Buddhists and others had mercilessly shed the blood of each other in the name or religion. Each of these sects then killed the followers of their own religions on minor interpretative issues. Even to date the bloodshed in the name of faith is rampant. This is the greatest error and must be rectified. The Quran discusses the concept of unity on three levels. Foremost is the unity of humanity. The Quran in Sura Al-Hujurat (The Inner Apartments) says: “O, Mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes that you may know one another. Verily, the most honorable of you with Allah is the one who has piety.” (49:13). The Quran no where addresses the Muslims. Either it addresses the believers (momineen) or the people (Annas). The Quran on second level refers to the unity of the people of the Books: the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims- In Sura Al-e-Imran the Quran says:” O, people of the Book! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah, and that we associate no partners with him, and that none of us will take others as lords besides Allah. Then if they turn away, say; Bear witness that we are Muslims” (3:64). The fifth verse of the Sura The Clear Evidence and the forty eighth verse of Sura The Table Spread also shed light on the unity of the people of the Book. Then on third level the Quran asserts on the unity of the Muslims. In Sura Al-e-Imran the Quran says; “And hold fast, all of you together to the rope of Allah, and be not divided among yourselves.” (3:103) . Then Quran condemns sectarianism and regards it shirk (polytheism). The Quran again in Sura Al-e-Imran says: “O ye who believe! Fear Allah as He should be feared and die not except in a state of Islam.” This verse clearly ordains that instead of adhering to Sunnism, Shiasim or Wahabism we should strongly adhere to Islam. In Mishqat Sharife there is a tradition of the Holy Prophet which says; “The Muslims are like a body; if one limb aches, the whole body aches.” Then the Messenger of Allah says; “whoever does not care about the affairs of the Muslims is not one of them.” From the above Quranic facts we deduce the result that Islam believes in the unity of all humans and preaches peace, justice and equality. Religion is to serve humankind. Religion has come to reform and unite humans, not to divide them. We must condemn extremism and terrorism in the name of religion and unite humankind if we believe in the unity of God. Source: http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_201_250/islam_and_unity.htm

Originally posted by Mr.Red Sea: ....waa inaynu rajaynaa hogaamiye wanaagsan oo diinta Islamka ku dhaqaya dalka iyo dadkaba meel kasta oo ay joogaan, anigu taas ayaan aaminsan ahay... Saas yaa kuu diiday in aad maalin walba u hadashid? Yaa kuu diiday? Maxaad marwalba oo aad wanaag ku hadashid, ugu dartaa difaac aad difaacaysid qab ka mid ah qaranka Soomaaliyeed. Maxaad u kala soocdaa Soomaalida, maxaad ugu diidaa wada noolashaha? Maxaad ugu diidaa in ay walaaltinimo ku wada noolaadaan isku wadan ah? Hadii ay dhab kaa tahay wixii aad hada qortay, maxaad maalin walba ugu hadliwayday saas? Aniga iyo adiga Diin iskuma haysano, waxaan isku haysanaa, difaaca aad difaacaysid kuwa raba in Soomaalidu is nacdo, kuwa raba in ay Soomaaliya kala jaraan. Originally posted by Mr.Red Sea: Somalinimo habayaratee wax xumaan oo aan ka sheegayaa majirto,laakin dadku waa in ay ku dhaqmaan diintooda wax kasta ka hor,that is all. Diin Islaam cid ka soo horjeedaa ma jirto. Diinta Islaamku waa lama huraan, Somalinimo iyo diin islaam ma kala haraan. Hasayeeshee, maxaad hada u leedahay Somalinimo wey fiican tahay, marka kalena aad u difaacdaa kuwa raba in nala kala jaro, Oo aan is nacno. Badacasoow waxaan ku odhan lahaa, hadii ay dhab kaa tahay waxaad hada leedahay. Wax aan ku wada muranaa aniga iyo adiga ma jiraan. Diin kuguma haysto. Wadaninimo ayaan isku haysanay. Hadii qaranka Soomaaliyeed uu kaa nabad galay oo aad wanaag, walaaltino iyo wada noolaansho aad u rajaynaysid dadkeena, anoo ku difaaca un igu ogow, daan'daansigaygana waad ka nabad gali. Originally posted by Mr.Red Sea: Madax kastaba wadenkeeda in ay difaacdo waa xaq,laakin lama odhan karo intu midi dadkiisa uu madhiyo kabacdina uuyidhaahdo dadkayga iyo dalkayga ayaan difaacayey,waa wax caqli hagaagsan soo marin taasi, mid xun mooyee. Waan kugu raacsanahay tan. Anigu waxaan idhi in la kirbaasho budhcadii magaalooyinkeena soo weerartay ayee ahayd. Anigu marnaba maan odhan in maatada la laayo ayee ahayd. Madaxweyne Siyaad Barre sida adba tiri in uu difaaco wadankiisa ayee ahayd. Wuuse ku gafay in maato badani dhimato. Dadka Soomaaliyeed waxyaabaha ay aadka ugu naceen ayee ahayd. Anigu ma lihi maato in la laayo ayee ahayd, anigu waxaan leeyahay Maxadweynuhu wuu ku saxsanaa in magaalooyinka amarka xukunka lagu soo celiyo. Budhcadana laga daba tago, si xun'na loo garaaco. Ninkii wadankiisa cadow u soo raacay, in la dilo maahee wax kale oo uu istaahilaa ma jirto. Taasna igulama murmi kartid waad ogtahay. So here is the deal, drop this SL bullshid and embrace Somalinimo. Intaas un ayaan anagu isku haysanaa. In aad walaaltinimo, wanaag, iyo wadanoolaansho isku wadan u rajeesid dadka Soomaaliyeed.

Originally posted by Kamalu Diin: the Somali Ethipian guy WTF is a Somali Ehiopian? There are Somalis and there are Ethiopians, there is no such thing as a Somali Ethiopian.

^^^ Xabashow karaama xumaan iyo waji xumaan adiga un ayaa meesha la fadhiya. NSPU is doing a great job for Somalia and Somali Unity.

^^ Ma waxaad u malaynaysaa in loo qaleenayo Somali Galbeed, Soomaali Koonfur Galbeed, Iyo Jabuuti? Soomaaliweyn un weeye sheekadu. Marka ha umoodin in laga haray dhulkaas. Sland wax la yidhaahdaana ma jirto. Hal Soomaaliya un ayaa jirta, hadii aad indhahaaga ka xidhanaysid taas waa danahaaga.

^^Is it me or is hebel kookoo, meercats?

Originally posted by Kamalu Diin: Me Spell it out Somali National Army. Me and Red Sea calm down wixii tagay tagsiimo maleh we have very success story in Somaliland now. Siyad Bare was in wrong postion and wrong time because he did not brought the union which was the place the problem started from. the only solution of Somalia is Federalism or beyond because somalida dhexdooda waa dab iyou naar kala foog waligaaa oo ha isku geenin. Dear Xabash, You don't make sense. On one hand you are critisising the union and on the other hand you are supporting federalism? Federalism is another kind of union, you do understand that right? and how are Soomaalidu dab iyo naar? Soomaali xagee ku taqaanaa. Aniga iyo Badacase si kasta aan u muran'no waan isku raacsan nahay in Soomaalidu ay MID tahay, oo midnimadeenu lama huraan tahay. Waxa aan u murmayno ma'aha nacayb aan isu qabno, waa jacayl aan wadankeena aan u wada qabno, oo aan wada dhiibanayno waxa aan xal u aragno. Soomaali dab iyo naar iskuma aha, Soomaali waa walaalo. Soomaali waad Mid. Waligaa taas ha ku khaldamin xabashow. Ethiopia ayaa la kala furfurayaa, Soomaaliya in aan dhul ku soo kordhino maahee, Soomaaliya lama kala jarayo. NO one is defending Siyaad Barre, but he had the responsibility for defending our nation against all threats external as well as internal.

Originally posted by Waaheen: Mr. Me: I think you crossed the line here when you justify the atrocities committed by the former regime against its own people in Burco, Hargeysa or elsewhere. These were one of the worst massacres committed by Somali's against their own in the recorded history. Shame on you bro for justifying the killing of innocent human beings and your fellow compatriots. Waaheen Nr. 1. No one is justifying the civilian casulties. Nr. 2. The SNA (Somali National Army) was in its full right to punish those that attacked Somalia. These rebels where armed, trained and supported by our enemy Ethiopia, they attacked our cities while our country was in a state of war, They stabbed us in the back, they betrayed our country . Their intention was creating lawlessness and overthrowing the Somali government. What do you think the government should ahve done? Welcome them? Throw roses at them? NO! The government had done what was expected of it, they crushed them. So Waaheen, read first then write back. No one is justifying civilian deads, but those traitors should have been brought to justice.

^^Inaadeer Aakhirona ka salaad li'id, aduunyana ka kaba li'id. National pride hadaadan lahayn maxaad anaga noogu diidaysaa? Ma anagaa laf dhabar kuu diidney? Qaranka Soomaaliyeed baad ka soo horjeedaa. Walaaltinimada dadka Soomaaliyeed ayaad ka soo horjeeda. Wada noolaashaha dadka Soomaaliyeed ayaad ka soo horjeedaa. Markaas ayaad aniga rabtaa in aad iila timaadid laba wajiilanimo. Marna aad aniga igu caayaysid in aan ka doortay Jacayl Soomaaliyeed, Jacayl diineed. Is maanan afgaran anagu. Indhahaaga fur. SOMALINIMO diin neceeb lama sin'na. Ta labaad. Riyaale Kaahin waxa aan ugu Sacbinayo, waaxa weeye waa ninka riyadii kooxda Soomaalidiidka ihi ay dhisatay qarxiyay. Riyaale Kaahin waxa uu u qabtay midnimada Soomaaliyeed ayaan ugu sacbiayaa. Cade Muusenana Sidoo kale ayaan ugu Sacbinayaa. Muuse Suudi & Qanyerana sidoo kale. Ragani waxey na tuseen jidka qabyaalada. Jidka Qabiil takoorka, Jidka Soomaalidiidka. Marka garo waxa lagu farxayo marka hore. Waxaan ku farxayaa, in kuwii dadkeena rabay in ay isku diraan ey yagu yihiin kuwa dadkeena tusaya in qabyaaladu meelna ay na gaadhsiineen. In aan ku wada lug'gáyno. Badacasoow, maskaydaada si fiican u isticmaal. Soomaalinimo waa walaaltinimo, ha ilaawin taas. Soomaalinimo iyo diinna ma kala haraan. Ha u moodin in qofka wadankiisa jecel uu diintiisa necebyahay. Ta aad ka hadlaysay in aan Siyaad Barre taageero. Siyaad Barre taageradaada iyo teeda uma baahna. Garaacida uu garaacay Burco iyo Hargeysa, horta ka may darneen, garaacidii Bari iyo Gobolada dhexe. Wuuna ku saxsanaa in uu garaaco. Budhcad amar ka qaata amxaaro ayaa wadankeena soo weeraray anagoo xili dagaal ku jirna. Maxadweenahayna iyo ciidamada qaranka hal jawaab un ayee u hayaan hadii cadow wadankeena soo weeraro, jawaabtaasna waa kirbaash. Hada hadii aad leedahay, xaq umuu lahayn Siyaad barre in uu wadankiisa difaaco, riyaad ku nooshahay.

Originally posted by Mr.Red Sea: I am sorry Xaruuri, so since when did someone says he likes Riyale Kahin just because he has created political turmoil in Hargeysa and Somaliland,a one who always claps and wishes that Hargeysa was under Aabihii Afweynimada isn't a hater...very good looking out mr.Xaruuri.Also since you dont' visit this place I am assuming,you should do little research of what this guys says daily about mr.Red Sea,whether it's calling him a liar or even worst things,I gues you wont'see that eh? someone who speaks on behav of all Somalis everywhere doesn't have the characteristics of the so called mr.Me,because I know he itches whenever he sees a new mall,hospital or positive note coming out of that corner,he simply cant stand it,however the likes of Che,Paragon,Xiinfaniin,Soo maal, Abadir, these are true Somalis in my book. as for Hargeysa,that is where my heart lies which I dont' need to have a permision from you to realize that,so move along yaa shiekh. Kamal"Diin",dameer dhaan raacday ha noqon,adigu hadaad nin tay,Red Sea mar gooni ah lahadal rag kale waxba ha iigu soo hoos gaban you get that baby boi Badacase, As usual you see throught qabyaalad eyes. I am happy with what Riyaale has done, I am proud at what he has done and I think he is a genius for deflating the secessionist mafia's balloon, but with saying that does that make me a hater for the people of the North West? I don't think so, I am from the North West, I do not hate myself, I do not hate my people, I love all my people and thats why I believe We should work together to improve the lives of our people, to stop discrimination based on qabiil, to build a strong nation where there is justice for everyone. Am I hater? am I short sighted for believing in that we should all live together and we should learn from the mistakes of the past? am I hater or are those durbaanka u tumaya, difaacayana faysal Cali waraabe ayaa nacayb ku jiraa? Is weydii suáalahaas. Hargeysa igama lihid, waqooyi galbeedna igama xigtid, marka umad dhan afkaaga ha ku qaadin, waligaa ma matali kartid dadka reer waqooyi galbeed. Taada un ka hadal. Laba wajiile un baa marna diin islaam ku gabanlahaa marna nin walaalihiisa Soomaaliyeed raba in uu laayo difaaci lahaa. Badacase laba wajiilaad tahay. Aduunyadanna laba wajiiluhu waa dadka ugu xun, uurka ayaad xumaan ku sidataa. Hadii aad diin islaam la jirtid, toos ula jir, diinta islaamku qabyaalada in dadka lagu kala takooro ma ogola. Soomaaliya ha noolaato! ps. I do not have to itch for something good happening in Hargeysa, guri baan ka dhistay sanadkan pss. You know what would be funny, if you where one of those soo galeeti, oo magaalada aan wax ku lahayn.

^^ Who gives a shidd about Ethiopia? and secondly why are you comparing Somalia with Ethiopia? Somalis are one Nation, one people, as you said before in Ethiopia there are many different nations held prisoner. Somalia is nor Ethiopia so don't compare apples with pears. What works for Ethiopia might not work for Somalia and what works for Somalia might not work for Ethiopia. Federalism is wrong for Somalia. It will weaken our country and it will help governments that want to destabilize the new Somali Republic. federalism and 4.5 must go or there will never be peace. 4.5 institutionalizes qabyaalad. Dear xabash you are going too far, what do you mean someone who comes from Baydhabo wont complain about someone from Kismayo or Mogadishu? Don't let this war fool you, for an outsider like you it might seem totally out of control. But its not that bad. Somalis will live together in one state no need for federalism or any other hocus pocus. We are one nation, these xabash sponsored thugs are known and Ethiopia will not be forgiven for what it has done. Ethiopia will pay dearly.

The Point Federalism will weaken Somalia, Somalia is not Canada or USA. Keep that in mind. So you can't compare Somalia with the USA. Federalism might work if the states would have a common goal, but if the states are rivaling then there is no point having a federal state, so either little independent states or a unitary state in Somalia. If some people argue for federalism because it would allow more freedom for the people and for the regions and it would serve their interest then it would be OK, but we all know that the federal states are covers for rival clan families that mistrust each other, We are not moving forward with federalism we are just legalizing qabyaalad. Do you think that these 'states' would give the central government allot of power? and who would rule Somalia? there will eventually be some states that have more influence then others, then what? Will the states that don't have much say in the Federal government rebel? Federalism doesn't solve anything for Somalia it will only prolong the conflict.

^^^are u ok? maxaa ku xelay?

My 2 cents? To hell with A/Y, IGADSOM will be a failure. The federalism that A/Y is supporting is going to weaken Somalia. This war is gonna get ugly. Only those that stick to principles will win, those who fight for qabiil will loose.

Che this Sland thing is a sharade. No self respecting person from the North West will publicly assume a post of responsibility there. That's why the likes of waraabe are the only ones that are willing to do it. The fact the responsible people in the North West are not getting involved in politics shows u that they don't believe in this whole Sland sharade. Don't be fooled, these are my people I know them really well. Somalia waligeed ma kala goáyso, Umana kala goáyso qabiilo and tuug dowlad isku sheeg ah. Muuse Suudi ama Qanyaraba ma yaqaa af hayeen u ahaa beelshooda, mise yagaa xukumi jiray? This waraabe dude or the other hate mongers are not better the Muuse Suudi and Qanyare. Sland kuwa durbaanka u tumayay 15kii sano ee la soo dhaafay wey og yihiin in Sland geed ey ku xiran tahay. I love Riyaale to be honest. He is the man that single handedly ended the dream of the secessionist mafia. Waraabe can talk all he likes, Riyaale is king, if he did what he did on purpose then he is a genius.

Northern Somali poets? Hadana ma gabayadii ayaa la kala leeyahay. Oday shirwac dameer ku fuul! Its Somali poetry period!

^^ been asking you the same question for months on end. Red Sea choose sides old man, you can't play for both sides. Incase you didnt understand the question, the question is about if you support a PAN-SOMALI ISLAMIC STATE.

Che xaasid,Maxaad ula dhisaysaa fooqa beenta? Jaylaani & Ridwaan when will you die-hard Somali haters assume the leadership of the secessionist mafia? I mean why are swapping Siyaad barre's errand boys? be creative please.