I can't wait for K'naans songs about this war. I am disappointed about fanaaniinta kale ee Soomaaliyeed, where are the Saado Cali's, Xasan Aaden Samaters, etc etc. they silent while all this is happening.

Why do you have to make a difference between the men and the woman, make one vote. I vote for Da'uud Warqadle.

Tuurlijk man, niet iedereen is een nomaad, er zijn nog kaas boeren. Undercoverkaasjes,mischien moeten we een kaas thread maken. Elke dag popt er een uit.

Ladies and Gentlemen, stop this BS...we all know whats happenning. All of the sudden qabiil wars are starting everywhere were Somalis live....coincidence? I think Not. The Xabash and Xabash dabadhilifs are turning our people against each other, so that we see each other as enemies. Stop this qabiil mentality or we will all be gone. The xabash are in muqdisho and we are fighting in, daroor, yeyle, cagaaaren, jubooyinka, kismayo, hiiraan. Are you people blind or something? These qabiil wars are not a coincidence. To hell with this Sland or Pland or whatever land, there is one Somalia and thats Someliweyn, the xabash will opppress us all in the same way, the xabash doesn't favour one qabiil over another, ka tashada meesha. Idinba waad ogtihiin in aan xabash kaliya aan la dagaalamahayn, ka tashada sheekadan ayaan idin dhihi lahghaa. Akhrista bogaga internetka Soomaaliyeed, waad arkeysaan sida calooshood u waryayaasha calooshood u shaqeestayaasha Soomaaliyeed ee dadka isigu dirayaa, ee meel walba qabyaalad uga hadlayaa, meeshii ee wadaninimo dadka ku guubaabinlahaayeen ayee dadka nacayb ku abuurayaan.

Now that I've made a few recordings and gained some notoriety, I've been invited to speak at workshops and forced to consider my own position on the value or legitimacy of Black History Month. "Is there a black community?" a few of my fellow panelists at the more unimaginative workshops have asked. I knew the answer to that: I was living in one, Jamestown (Rexdale), where we were dealing with weightier questions like "Where are the guns coming from?" Then there are those bloated with wisdom who invariably ask burning questions like "Why have we been given the shortest month of the year?" This sort then quickly offer the answers, while being sure to insert jargon like "politrics" or "overstand." Watching events in Africa, it's so easy, surveying the hunger and the war, to forget how the dilemma faced by blacks today was all structured long ago at a conference table in Germany. On Christmas Eve 2006, Ethiopia, cheered on by the U.S.-inspired Transitional Federal Government, invaded my birth country, Somalia, and overthrew the Union of Islamic Courts. To Africans, this story seems all too familiar. Division and conquest, war and subjugation and here we are. One could start the narrative with the Stanley Electric Group, an automotive light bulb company based in Japan, named in honour of Sir Henry Morton Stanley, one of the most negative figures in black history. Stanley was born in Wales, and at the age of six was committed to a workhouse. At 17, he made his way by sea to New Orleans, where he befriended a cotton broker. He later fought on both sides of the American Civil War. But it was as a journalist that he cemented his ugly place in black history. In 1871, the New York Herald commissioned Stanley to travel in Africa. It was an assignment that would change the course of history when Stanley's ambitions expanded from exploration to exploitation. By 1876, he had found a like-minded partner, the powerful King Leopold of Belgium, a first cousin of Queen Victoria, who believed that a country's greatness depended on the acquisition of colonies. When the king could not find support for his ambitious expansion plans within his own government, he started a private company, the International African Society, and hired Stanley to run it for him. Under the cloak of this "philanthropic" organization, the king assembled a private army called the Force Publique that, through horrendous brutality, extracted rubber and ivory riches from the region. Stanley thus laid the groundwork for long Belgian rule over the Congo, a regime that we know today claimed between 8 million and 30 million African lives. The French, who did not recognize Leopold's private colonization, tried to lay claim to the region themselves. Out of this dispute, the Berlin Conference of 1884 convened, at which 13 European countries and the U.S. recognized Central Africa's Congo region as Leopold's private property. But the effects of the Berlin Conference were much broader. It went on to divide the continent into incomprehensible pieces, in a process now known as the Scramble for Africa. The Europeans basically invaded, imposed a new map on Africa according to their geographical needs, divided tribes and communities that traditionally got along and confined traditional enemies inside new shared borders. All these years later, border disputes are still unresolved, as in Somalia, one of the most homogeneous countries in Africa. Ongoing conflict there began in 1886, when the British invaded the northern part of the country, the French took a piece in the north and Italians captured southern Somalia. Ethiopia's then emperor, Menelik II, encouraged by Britain, took over the ****** region. Celebrated Somali poet Mohammed Abdullah Hassan led a 22-year-long colonial resistance, one of the longest and bloodiest in sub-Saharan Africa, in which Somalia lost a third of its population in the north. The decisive end came when the British, having lost too many of their men, called on a squadron from the Royal Air Force, fresh from a World War I bombing run, to destroy the resistance. Ethiopia's support back then for the colonial powers made a long-term enemy out of its neighbour, Somalia. During a ceasefire in the 1980s, Somalis lived under a U.S.-funded dictatorship that was overthrown in 1991. The country was in complete anarchy, with a handful of powerful warlords struggling to dominate one another. More than a decade later, an alternative in the form of the faith-based Union of Islamic Courts emerged, crippling the warlords and restoring order in the capital of Mogadishu. Undaunted, the U.S., citing fears of Al Qaeda involvement, reorganized and funded the warlords under the umbrella Alliance for the Restoration of Peace and Counter-Terorrism. Fast-forward to 2007: Ethiopia is now withdrawing after its December invasion, and the U.S.-backed pro-Ethiopian Transitional Federal Government, which made warlords from the Alliance into ministers, has been discredited by its reliance on Ethiopian forces. Division and conquest, war and subjugation, tactical separations, ideological impositions and here we are, under the sun of a day when average people in these conflicts no longer know what happened to put them there, why they are dying and why they will continue to die, plagued by disadvantage, hunger and war. Over a conference table in Germany it all began, but we Africans, speeding to our demise when the baton was passed , have all too eagerly carried it on. And so it occurs to me that the month of February is really not so black after all, but half black and half white like the two men whose birthdays it commemorates, Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln. And maybe, too, like the puppet regimes of Africa that are still in place to serve the interests of Western countries far away. World events today are starting to resemble the old Scramble, with one country waving the flag of domination. I wonder if the Middle East will get a month all to itself one day. http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2007-02-01/cover_story.php

http://www.somali4all.com/tv/tv.php?nav=video http://www.somali4all.com

^We still have a country it needs some dusting off, thats all.

War kaligay maaha, nin kalaa ila socda...lol

This is a better picture of that square, the stairs next to the pink pillars where that taxi is parked is where the kids used to sit. Thanx for the pics daveletterman

Daveletterman a question. If we start collecting everyone that looks like us, for example Fulani's Tutsi's, Oromo's, Afars etc. Where are we heading? What will come next? a Cushtic super race/state with the myth of ancient Egypt. As in we used to rule the world before, we can rule it again? Racial superiority like the Nazi's in Germany collecting all Germanic/Arian people to build a 1000 year empire? And whats the place for Somali Bantu's in Nationalist Somalia. According to you what is a Nationalist Somalia actually? Is Somalia for all the people living in Somalia or only those that look like the typical farax/xalimo. Rwanda's president looks Somali, those Hutu's had a point when they said, cut the tall tree's.

I have read posts like this couple of times before,these things should be examined. That Numba-one dude held his ground very well. I liked his quotes from the Quran: And if you obey most of those in the earth, they will lead you astray from Allah's way; they follow but conjecture and they only lie. (Quran 6:16) Or do you think that most of them do hear or use their reasoning? They are nothing but as cattle; nay, they are straying farther off from the path. (Quran 25:44) And they shall say: O our Lord! surely we obeyed our leaders and our great men, so they led us astray from the path; (Quran 33:67)

Ever thought about a restraining order? SOL restraining order so that she should always be two topics away from you.

Val & Rudy when will you two get married? Stop this flirting or do something with it. Its becoming unbearable.

The question I have fr you is are the qab-qables are our brothers, will taking them out have any effect? I know I am thinking too simplistic if I think, taking them out will change everything all of the sudden. But think with me here, since we have not tried to take the qab-qables out what effect will it have if we do that.

When I wrote that I remembered this. Franz Fanon If this suppressed fury fails to find an outlet, it turns in a vacuum and devastates the oppressed creatures themselves. In order to free themselves they even massacre each other. The different tribes fight between themselves since they cannot face the real enemy — and you can count on colonial policy to keep up their rivalries; the man who raises his knife against his brother thinks that he has destroyed once and for all the detested image of their common degradation, even though these expiatory victims don’t quench their thirst for blood. They can only stop themselves from marching against the machine-guns by doing our work for us; of their own accord they will speed up the dehumanisation that they reject.

A clean board strategy. Set up hit squads and kill all 'qab-qable' and collaborators with the enemy anyone suspected of helping the enemy should be eliminated anyone against peace in Somalia should be eliminated. This includes warlords, media workers who are not promoting peace in Somalia, financiers of clan wars, etc etc. Foreign spies. Basically i am advocating for a reign of terror against anyone against a SOMALI PEACE. This should create the 'conducive environment' for a real reconciliation process. The Ethiopians can work freely in Somalia because of th qab-qables if the qab-qables are stopped then we can deal with the Ethio's much much better. Lets compile the lists now. If you are a qabiil qab-qable is ilaali. Hada iska jooji qabyaalada. On top of mine is General Duke. I am not kidding General. Is ilaali.

Waryaa Badacase how did you do it? I remember back in the days I had about 800 posts and you had 780 and we were competing for the 1000 and now you are at 2225 and I am 900 something. How did you do it?

Because we don't want it bad enough? Because we don't make good leaders? because we are a nation of ego's? WHY? because we now live in Bizzaro world. Where good is bad and bad is good. WHY? because we are all talk and no substance. Because we all dream of a better world or a better Somalia and never do shit and if someone tries to do something good we bring them down because he or she might make us look bad. Fukkk WHY, how about HOW, HOW CAN WE BRING PEACE TO SOMALIA.

Ciidanka Ethiopia oo la wareegay xaruntii militeriga Soomaaliya 16-2-2007 Hoobiyayaal ayaa lagu garaacay goor dhoweyd (fiidnimada 16 Feb) Isbitaalka Digfeer ee magaalada Muqdisho halkaas oo ay ciidammo Ethiopian ahi ka sameysteen fariisin militeri. Ciidanka Ethiopian-ka ayaa la sheegay in ay iyaguna ku jawaabeen madaafiic uu qaarkood ku dhacay meel ku dhow qabuuraha Qaranka ee uu ku aasan yahay Madaxweynihii Hore ee Soomaaliya Cabdirashiid cali Sharmaarka. Lama sheegin khasaaraha halkaas ka dhacay. Sida ay ku soo warrameen weriyayaal ku sugan Muqdisho, ciidammada Ethiopia waxay galabta la wareegeen xaruntii hore ee Wasaaraddii Gaashaandhigga ee Soomaaliya. Qoysas badan oo daartaa deggenaa oo qaarkood ay ahaayeen dad soo barakacay ayaa halkaas laga saaray. http://www.bbc.co.uk/somali/news/story/2007/02/070216_mogadishu.shtml No comments from me,I think you all feel it.

^^ yea man I do now. Thanx for the reminder.

Marjen Mursal Inftin Joogle Buunis - Gariiree Odey Shirwac? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLCTuSTc504&NR Abdi-Nur Adan (Daljir). Unknown artist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUX7KYUQns0&NR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLtF8QLOHcg&mode=related&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHg3gonUHnE&mode=related&search= Saado Cali Sahro Dawo Cumar dhuule Axmed Naaji http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdTtO9eYglY&mode=related&search= Khadra Daahir http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFE74AavIhk&mode=related&search= Maandeeq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEqKtiSKqxE&mode=related&search= Tubeec & Rooda Magool- Masalgoor Luul Jeylaani Fartuun Birimo - NUXUR Qoomaal - caashaqaan dartii Yeshi Tadeshe (a Somali song,sung by oromo friends) Ilkacase - Barmuda Boyz - Sacabka ii tuma Hanuuniye - Shinbir Add any video's you find to this thread please

Does anyone have a tape of that show tuug ma aragtey? Ma arkin dheh, if you ever come across it please put it online.

^^man i was too busy making paper airplanes or telling other kids miiska madaxa saar or dhagaha qabso. So wasn't checking up the teachers.

GRRRR Xaawo taako! btw Xaawo Taako was not better then us school pride please. I don't know the principals name, I know how she looked like, she was tall,dark, used to wear glasses and she was tuff, everyone was scared of her. I remember the bajiyes, and the bread with tuna or bread with sambuuse sold at school. I also remember this female teacher bringing sisin balls or laws balls. Mannnnn now it all makes sense the teachers had it bad in those days and she was trying to make some extra money selling those candy at school. What was the brother of that nimco called?

Originally posted by Valenteenah: Are you actually expecting a list of 'Heblaayo does this' and 'heblaayo does that' and 'another heblaayo does that also's? Talk about gross over-simplifications! If that's all you want, find out what your female relatives are doing and base your generalisations on that (perhaps they will look more intelligent than the tripe you're currently offering) In response to your other outcry: quote: I haven't seen one active Somali woman who has anything positive to contribute. My experience is somewhat different. The only active people I come across in the Somali community are women. Open your eyes and look around, won't you? Most of the people making forward strides in the diaspora are young women. The young men seem to have been snatched from the air by youth offenders institutions, unfortunately. Furthermore, Ayaan Xirsi is not the only Somali woman out there and she certainly doesn't represent Somali women. Drumming that particular foosto must be getting tiring, surely? I know I'm tired of hearing it. Calm down dear, its only words on a screen and I think My point has come across, whether you call me ignorant or whatever you know I am right.