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    The SNM was beaten

    Here is the link, there is some interesting stuff in it. http://www.cod.edu/people/faculty/yearman/somalia.htm ...........Chevron Oil has begun exploratory drilling at the first of two sites in northern Somalia...Another Chevron employee, a Somali-born US citizen...believes the [somali National Movement] has taken a firm descision not [repeat] not to harass the oil operation in any way. The SNM believes the oil (which Somalis and Djiboutians apparently are convinces is present in major quantities) should be exploited for the benefit of the Somali people, particularly in the north. From a technical standpoint, that can only take place in the 1990's, when Siad Barre - and presumably his government - is gone..........
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    The SNM was beaten

    ^Well I heard the wells are already dug and sealed, teh equipment is there they only need to start pumping and there are still guards hired by Conoco guarding them and that no one dares touching them, even the SNM didn't dare intervere with the works of Conoco. But Laas Caanood is not the only place, although the most promising sites are in the area of Laas Caanood, there are other sites in Awdal and other places in Somalia.
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    The SNM was beaten

    Horn, I have posted most of these documents on Somalia online I think and they showed allot of things. Like generals, PM, ministers from the Somali government oo soo siyaareenaya the US embassy and giving them intelligence, assuraces and making things easier for them. Allot of somali government officials were in the pockets of these guys, its a sad thing.
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    The SNM was beaten

    lol... well mujaahid oo no mujaahid, sheekadaasu meesha ay u socoto iyo meesha ay ka socoto waa la ogyahay. Ta labaad ee conoco, well conoco Las cannod iska daaye, Soomaaliya ayee iska leedahay. Soomaaliya oo dhan ayaa geed ugu xidhan. marka dadka reer Laas Caanood dadka soomaaliyeed ayee dhibaato iyo wanaagba la qabaan.
  5. ^That will fail, reer muqdisho see this coming, and I don't think that qaybdiid will be that loyal to AY, he will run away with some weapons and join the otherside.
  6. Swedish teen: U.S. troops led operation By KARL RITTER, Associated Press Writer STOCKHOLM, Sweden - A Swedish teenager who was imprisoned for weeks with alleged terror suspects in Ethiopia said in an interview published Thursday that Americans in military uniform directed the Kenyan soldiers who took her into custody on the Somali-Kenyan border. The statements by 17-year-old Safia Benaouda were the first to describe a broader U.S. role in the detentions. Other detainees have said they were taken into custody by Kenyans and transferred to Ethiopia, a U.S. counterterrorism ally. Benaouda said three men in U.S. uniforms led the Kenyan troops who detained her and other women and children fleeing Somalia on Jan. 18. "After the American soldiers had detained us they kept in the background, but it was very clear that they were the ones in charge," Benaouda, who was freed from an Ethiopian prison March 27, was quoted as saying by the Stockholm daily Svenska Dagbladet. Benaouda did not answer calls from The Associated Press on Thursday. But her mother, Helena Benaouda, told the AP her daughter believed they were U.S. soldiers because of insignia on their uniforms. "They were American soldiers," said Helena Benaouda, who heads the Swedish Muslim Council. Ethiopian officials initially denied any suspects were in custody, but the government later confirmed an AP report that dozens of foreigners were detained as part of an effort to stem terrorism. U.S. officials, who agreed to discuss the detentions only if not quoted by name because of the sensitivity of the issue, have said Ethiopia had allowed access to U.S. agencies, including the CIA and FBI, but the agencies played no role in arrests, transport or deportation. Ethiopian and Somali officials acknowledge cooperating. U.S. special operations troops regularly train Kenyan security officers at Kenya's Manda Bay Naval Station near the Somali border, officials from the Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa have said. In a statement Thursday, a task force spokesman directed queries about Kenyan border activities to the Kenyan government. Kenyan officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment. American, Kenyan and Ethiopian forces have long been allies in a U.S. counterterrorism effort in the region, whose lawlessness security experts fear al-Qaida and other groups could exploit to create a base. The cooperation appears to have been stepped up in the wake of the collapse of an Islamist regime in Somalia, amid fears al-Qaida suspects linked to the group would flee into Kenya. In January, the U.S. launched an airstrike on Somalia's Ras Kamboni, a region near Kenya the U.S. has long suspected was the site of a training camp used by a Somali Islamic group linked to al-Qaida. Benaouda said she had traveled to Somalia with her fiance, Munir Awad, a Swedish citizen of Lebanese descent. The couple was separated when they tried to leave the country after the Ethiopian military intervention in December. Benaouda said she was captured along with a group of women and children as they tried to cross into Kenya. The soldiers shot a woman in the group, she told the paper, but didn't give details. They were brought to Nairobi and then returned to Somalia, blindfolded and handcuffed, before being transferred to a prison in the Ethiopian capital, Addis Ababa, she said. There, she said, she saw her fiance for the first time in weeks. Awad was among eight terror suspects shown on Ethiopia's state-run television Tuesday as the country came under mounting pressure over the detention program. Awad and the others said they were being treated humanely. But Benaouda said she saw her fiance and two other Swedish citizens confined in what looked like "poultry cages with metal roofs" in Ethiopia, and that she was beaten by a prison guard with a stick at one point during her detention. In March, the guards started treating her better and on March 23, she said, she met an official from the Swedish Embassy. Four days later, Benaouda, who is pregnant, was put on a plane home. The Ethiopian Foreign Affairs Ministry said 29 of the 41 suspects have been ordered released by the Ethiopian government, and that five have been freed. The ministry said only 12 foreign detainees would remain in custody after the next round of releases. Human rights groups say the detentions are illegal; Ethiopia has denied that.
  7. ^ huh? make sense please. Naxarow, adigu jawaab in lagu siiyo maaha. Marka na kala kaxee.
  8. Of all the people in the world, cabdi qaybdiid? The man is a war criminal, a warlord. Well but so is the president I guess. Too bad that some people don't learn. What is the political motive behind this, a government by the warlords for the warlords?
  9. Dagaal qaraar oo maanta ka bilowday magaalada Muqdisho. Muqdisho, Khamiis, April 19, 2007 Simba Radio Dagaal qaraar oo la isku adeegsanayo hubka noocyadii kala duwan ayaa maanta duhurnimadii mar kale dib uga qarxay magaalada Muqdisho ee caasimadda Somalia. Dagaalka ayaa dhex maray Ciidamada Ethiopianka ah iyo kooxaha kasoo horjeeda Joogitaankooda magaalada Xarunta ah ee Muqdisho. Sida ay sheegeen dad goob joogayaal ah dagaalka ayaa qarxay kadib markii ciidamo Ethiopian ah oo wata Taankiyo iyo Gawaarida kale ee dagaalka ay ku biireen Ciidamada ka tirsan kuwa Dowladda KMG ah ee Somalia oo Kooxaha Wax iska Caabinta ay isku horfadhiyeen agagaarka Isgoyska Fagax ee Degmada Yaaqshiid. Siyaasiga Cabdullaahi Sheekh Xasan, oo ka tirsan Guddiga Xabad joojinta Beelaha ******, kaasi oo shir Jaraa'id ku qabtay magaalada Muqdisho ayaa ayaa ku dhowaaqay in Xabad joojinta ka dhaqan galeysay Muqdisho ay gebi ahaanba bur burtay, ayna jebiyeen Ciidamada Ethiopian-ka ah sida uu hadalka u dhigay. Laakiin weli ma jiro wax hadal ah oo ka soo baxay ciidamada Ethiopian-ka. Dagaalka oo marba marka ka dambeysa sii qaraaraaday oo iminka kusii fiday deegaano dhowr ah oo ka tirsan degmooyinka is garab yaalla ee Yaaqshiid iyo Huriwaa. Dagaalka ayaa waxaa garab socda Madaafiic lagu garaacayo Deegaano ku dhow dhow Goobaha ay dagaalada ka socdaan, ayada oo inta badan madaafiicdaasina ay kasoo dhaceyso Xarunta Madaxtooyada Villa Somalia iyo Wasaaraddii hore ee Gaashaandhiga Somalia . Madaafiicdaasi qaarkood ayaa ugu yaraan sideed qof ku dishay tiro intaas ka badanna ku dhaawacay Xaafadda Carafaat ee Degmada Yaaqshiid, kadib markii ay ku dhaceen Boosteejo ay Gawaari ka raacayeen dad Xaafaddaasi ka qaxayay, si ay uga baxsadaan madaafiicda aan loo meel dayin ee kusoo dhaceysa. Waxaa jira Madaafiic kale oo ku dhaceysa deegano ay ku nool yihiin dad rayid ah, oo ay u badan tahay inay khasaare nafeed iyo mid maalba dhaliyeen. Waxaa adag in la ogaado khasaaraha dhabta ah ee dagaalka uu dhaliyay, in kasta oo ay jiraan Dhimasho iyo Dhaawac aad u tira badan, ayada oo Goobaha lagu dagaalamayana ay yihiin goobo rayid ay degan yihiin. Si Kastaba ha ahaatee, dagaalkaan ayaa mar walba la faliyay inuu dhaco maadaama Odayaasha Beelaha ****** iyo Saraakiisha Ethiopian-ka oo maalmihii ugu dambeeyay wada kullamo ay doonayeen iany ku heshiiyeen ay ku guul darreysteen inay kala qaadaan ciidamada weli is horfadhiya.
  10. Dagaalo xoogan oo ka soconaya Wadada Fagax ee Mogadishu 19, April.07 ( Sh.M.Network) Dagaalo xoogan oo la isku adeegsanayo nuucyada kala duwan ee hubka fudud iyo kan culus iyo madaafiic lagu tuurayo goobaha rayidka ay dagan yihiin ayaa barqo nimadii maanta ka qarxay caasimadda Somalia ee Muqdisho. Dagaalkaan oo ka qarxay isgoyska Fagax iyo deegaanada ku hareersan ayaa saameyn xoog leh ku yeeshay degmooyinka yaaqshiid iyo Huriwaa, iyadoo tobanaan madfac ay ku dhaceen xaafado ka baxsan halka lagu dagaalamayo. Lama oga sababta dagaalkaan uu u qarxay hasa ahaatee wararka qaar ayaa sheegaya in ciidamo Ethiopian ah oo wata Taankiyo iyo gawaari kale lagu biiriyay ciidamadii dowlada ee horey halkaasi kula dagaalamayay xoogagga diidan joogitaanka ciidamada Ethiopia ee gudaha Somalia inkastoo wali aan la soo sheegin qasaaraha dagaaladaasi ka dhashay hadana waxaa iska cad in madaafiicda goobaha rayidka ugu dhacaya si aan loo meel dayin ay sababeen qasaaro nafeed. Iska horimaadyadaan ayaa waxaa barbar socda madaafiic laga soo tuurayo wasaaradii hore ee G/dhigga, Kulyadda Jaalle Siyaad iyo xarunta Madaxtooyada. Wixii ku soo kordha kala soco warar keena dambe Shabelle Media Network Somalia E-mail us: info@shabelle.net
  11. Madaafiic qasaaro geysatay oo ka soconeysa Muqdisho Mogadishu 19, April.07 ( Sh.M.Network) illaa iyo 8 ruux ayaa ku nafweysay inta la ogyahay madaafiic xoogan oo wali ku dhaceysa qeybo ka mid ah caasimadda Somalia ee Muqdisho. 8 da ruux ee geeriyootay oo ahaa daryid ah kana qaxayay caasimadda ayaa waxa uu madfac kula dhacay Busteejo ku taala agagaarka Carafaat ee wadada Warshadaha ee magaalada Muqdisho sida uu shabelle u xaqiijiyay Goobjooge la yiraahdo Aadan Cumar. Waxa uu sheegay in madaafiicdaan laga soo tuuray dhanka Madaxtooyada iyo wasaaradii hore ee G/dhigga oo fariisin u ah ciidamada Ethiopia. Madaafiic xoogan ayaa sidoo kale wali ku socota qeybo ka mid ah magaalada Muqdisho, iyadoo wali aan la ogeyn qasaaraha ay geeysteen. Madaafiic BM ah ayaa maanta laga tuurayay xarunta Madaxtooyada, iyagoo ka jawaabaya weeraro hoobiyeyaal ah oo kaga yimid xoogagga diidan ciidamada Ethiopia. Wixii ku soo kordha kala soco warar keena dambe Shabelle Media Network Somalia E-mail us: info@shabelle.net
  12. 20 ruux oo ku nafwaayay dagaalo qaraar oo maanta ka dhacay caasimadda Somalia Click here to find Shabelle news in English Daawo Sawirada oo dhan Mogadishu 19, April.07 ( Sh.M.Network) 20 ruux ayaa ku nafweysay tiro ka badan 100 kalena dhaawac ayaa ka soo gaaray ka dib Dagaalo culus oo saakay ka qarxay deegaanada Fagax iyo Jamhuuriya oo u dhaxeeyay ciidamada Ethiopia iyo xoogagga diidan joogitaankooda dalka , iyadoo dagaaladaasina la isku maqribsaday. Daawo Sawirada dagaaladii maanta iyo qasaarihii ay geeysteen Dagaalkaan oo la isku adeegsaday hubka nuucyadiisa kala duwan, qoryaha darandooriga u dhaca iyo madaafiic ayaa xooggiisa waxa uu ka socday agagaarka Suuqa Jamhuuriya ee Magaalada Muqdisho. Dadka ku dhaawacmay dagaaladaan ayaa 70 ka mid ah waxaa la gaarsiiyay Isbitalka Madiina halka 24 kalena la dhigay Isbitalka Keysaneey. Daryanka madaafiic iyo rasaas culus ayaa si weyn looga maqlayay degmooyinka Yaaqshiid iyo huriwaa, iyadoo madaafiic ay ku soo dhacday dhismaha xarunta Idaacadda codka nabadda. 8 ruux ayaa mar qura ku geeriyooday Madfac BM ah oo ku dhacay wadada Carafaat, iyadoo madfacaasi laga tuuray dhanka madaxtooyada sida uu shabelle u sheegay Goobjooge Cumar Aadan. Sidoo kale waxaa jira madaafiic kale oo lagu garaacay qeybo ka mid ah xaafadaha rayidka ay dagan yihiin ee caasimadda, kuwaasi oo sababay dhimasho iyo dhaawac. Qasaaraha dagaalkii maanta oo aad u fara badan ayaa ah kuwo wali isis soo taraya, iyadoo isbitaalada wali la geynayo dad rayid ah oo dhaawacyo ay ka soo gaareen madaafiicdii maanta la isku weydaarsaday caasimadda Somalia. Dagaalkaan ayaa waxa uu saameyn ku yeeshay isku socodka gaadiidka iyo dadweynaha xaafadaha Muqdisho, iyadoo la arkayay dad hor leh oo ka baxaya caasimadda Somalia. Afhayeen u hadalay odayaasha Beelaha ****** ayaa ku eedeeyay ciidamada Ethiopia in ay burburiyeen heshiiskii xabad joojinta isla markaana weeraro ay soo qaadeen, isagoo sheegay in ay is difaacayaan. Xiriir aanu la sameynay dhanka dowladda KMG ah iyo waliba ciidamada Ethiopia ayaysan inoo suurto galin in aanu helno. Shabelle Media Network Somalia E-mail us: info@shabelle.net
  13. Dagaal xoogan oo ka qarxay magaalada Muqdisho. Warkii 19-Apr-2007 iyo Qormadii: Afnugaal News Desk Waxaa maanta Duhurnimadii uu dagaal xoogan uu ka qarxay magaalada Muqdisho dagaalkan oo ah mid la isku adeegsanayo dhamaan hubka noocyadiisa kala duwan oo dhinac kastaaba uu ridayo intii tamartiisa ah dagaalkan ayaa waxa uu u dhaxeeyaa ciidamada dalka Ethiopia iyo kooxaha wax iska caabinta. Dagaalakan ayaa ilaa hada aan la ogayn khasaaraha dhabta ah ee uu gaystay inkasta oo warar naga soo gaadhaya goobaha hore ee dagaalku uu sheegayo in uu dagaal uu gaystay khasaare badan oo ay ku jirto dad rayid ah oo madhfac ku dhacay. Dagaalkan oo ka qarxay isgoyska Fagax iyo deegaanada ku hareersan ayaa saameyn xoog leh ku yeeshay degmooyinka yaaqshiid iyo Huriwaa, iyadoo tobanaan madfac ay ku dhaceen xaafado ka baxsan halka lagu dagaalamayo. Hadaba dagaalkan ayaa waxa uu daba socdaa dagaalo goos goos ah oo inta badan ku dhex mara ciidamada dalka Ethiopia iyo kooxaha kasoo horjeeda joogitaankooda ee kusugan gudaha caasimada dalka Somalia ee Muqdisho. Wixii kasoo kordha kala soco wararkayaga danbe. Afnugaal News Desk info@afnugaal.com
  14. hahahah, the name even Shuttleworth, shuttleworthy? How did he make his money BOB.
  15. ^if a referendun was to be held, It would be held in the Somali republic and not only in parts of it, with your logic I can declare wardhiigley independant. Originally posted by Mj. bada Cas: mr. me, Nice attempt but that is the case of Somaliland which you are using to your advantage. What case am I using, haven't I proven that Somaliland has no case, hasn't Xiin proven that there is no case for Somaliland, hasn't che proven that there is no case for Somaliland, hasn't Centurion proven that there is no case for Somaliland, haven't all you seccessionist sympathizers ducked & dodged any question that came your way. So what case of yours am I using. Hometownboy this Somaliland project has already failed, you know, I know, everyone knows, the problem is that the secessionists have dug themselves so deep that they need some serieuse face saving. The ICU would have offered a great opportunity for surrender. We have ourselves a stalemate at the moment, lets hope we find a middle ground soon, because we know the alternatives.
  16. yes when you can't answer them discredit them Smart thinking nabadshe, but that won't get you of the hook, the questions remain and you not answering them can be a sign for the weakness of your already flimsy case.
  17. Originally posted by Mj. bada Cas: mr. me.. Hey sweatheart join the discusion or stay on the side lines. I am still waiting your little usual calalcal of we are Somalis who share the same culture, race crap. Now your getting silly, I can see we are almost near the breaking point, should I book you a holiday from SOL. As you suggested I will stay on the side lines. these tourists will leave soon, but I am a resident so I will spare my calaacal.
  18. ^^ No xiin, ii daa kuwan, anaa waligay iska lahaa, qandaraas ayaa laygu siiyay. Ana waxaan is lahaa ma jagadii ayuu odaygani kaa boobayaa.
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    The SNM was beaten

    Badacase why are you ignoring me on this thread? Nin rag ah been ma sheego, marka uu khalad galanaa wuu qirtaa, marka qiro badacase in aad khalad gashay ama been sheegtay.
  20. Originally posted by Che-Guevara: ^^^^^LoooooL@people Badacas waa lagu goobtay. Hal Hal u soo baxa I don't like you people stealing my punching bag, get your own!
  21. Originally posted by Mj. bada Cas: I do not expect to convince anyone. However one doesnt have the choice but to be convice when a whole population decide they want to try their own seperate life style. Hold up, you don't want to convince me? because if you don't convince me it means two things, 1. War, 2 you abbandon this project, the choice is yours. And who is this whole population that you are talking about? What whole population wants to seccede? because not all northerners want to seccede. I for one don't want to seccede from the Somali republic, so i ask you since you don't want to convince me, and I don't belong in your whole population, then what? Ethnic cleanse me? imprison me? maybe kill me? what then? What do you suggest for those who are against the seccesionist project?
  22. This is no fun at all, its like shooting lame ducks. i don't know where to start and which leg I should pull underneath you. Let me just pick few interesting ones. Originally posted by Mj. bada Cas: [QB] There was no somali nation under the colonial powers, however when they left they did grant Somaliland a nationhood status which was recognised by more than 30 countries. What 30 countries have 'recognized' Somaliland? please list those countries names. Are you refering to countries that sent congratulary letters? Is that recognition in your eyes? British Somaliland and Italian Somaliland were preparing thmeselves for a union when those congratulary letters were coming in. In the 4 days between the independance of British Somaliland and the union with Italian Somaliland, British Somaliland never functioned as an Independant government so there has never been a Somaliland government. But thats all academic now, Somliland will not be recognized untill Somalia proper gives the fiat for its independance and it doesn't look like thats gonna happen any time in the near future. Problem nr. 2 the people who live in the borders of 'British Somaliland' ( I don't even recognize the British colonialization of North-central-Somalia) Don't agree with the secession, a large portion of the Northern population are againt the secession and are willing to fight for the union. See with your own eyes. Problem nr. 3 The clan that inhabits Laas Caanood never signed a protection treaty with the British so they never were a part of 'British Somaliland' and their lands are sovergn, they have also had their own recognized state state the Darwiish state which has resisted the colonial expansion of their lands, their lands were briefly occupied by the British , but they were never colonized. Somaliland was always resided by the majority of one tribe. However as a result of '77 war displacement the city of Hargeysa saw many somali migrants from Somali galbeed who settled there. Other than the city had always been a city dominated by one tribe, though even today there are large group of people from all areas of Somaliland who reside there, yet they are with the cause of Somaliland. Majority maybe, but never exclusively, I think that my families history pre-dates yours in Hargeysa, so that gives me more rights ...I was there first There is no case for Somaliland other then we want to and who is going to stop us. So here I say it, we will stop you, Somalia proper will never recognize Somaliland and even if the world recognizes it it will be war and try winning that. I do not believe in reasoning with the secessionists, because there is nothing to reason about, and even if there was they don't get it, I know how they work, first you beat them then you negotiate with them on your own terms.
  23. Kow: Let it burn baby, I wanted this war for so long, I really did, I want the waqooyi to experience what the death traingle in the south experienced, then maybe we would become a bit more humble because it would indeed be a sobering experience and all you fadhi ku dirir captains, colonels and generals would feel it in your pockets too, when your cousins and uncles get on the phone screaming Yaman ayaan usoo dabaalanay ee lacag noo soo di-ra. Bari hore ayaa lay sheegay, soomaalidu waxay dirirtaa marka calooshoodu buuxdo, inta aduunyada kale ee dirirto marka gaajadu hayso, marka maanta reer waqooyiga caloosha ayaa u buuxda in ay isku dibir jabsadaan ayee rabaan, marka aan aragno ka laga hor daaciyo. Ta labaad: Arka bal odaygan Originally posted by Mj. bada Cas: My point would be: okay let us say that poeple in Sanaag aren't on the same boat with Somaliland, however what possibly would litttle aid brought to some areas in Sanaag do that is causing Puntland to gather up arms and resist it regardless? I wonder since when is 'aid' brought by technicals and jirri? And what aid are the secessionists bringing, ma rasaas ayee u qaybinayaan dadka? hadii ay arintu saas tahay, dee 'aid' dhanka kalena wey ka soo socotaa, Burco iyo Ceerigaabo bal bakhaaradoodii u sii diyaarida, meel la kala dhigo áid-kan' ayaa la waayayaa. Badacase I am glad that you are getting to see the whole picture, that the people of sanaag are not really on the same bandwagon as the secessionists. This is a positive development congratulations, too bad it took you this long.