Originally posted by Xudeedi: [QB] Mr. Somalia, the words of the elders that you undermine is the only ultimate authority in the land. Puntland was derived from the unification of the larger clan interest; nevertheless every family is responsible for its inherited land. Faroole himself draws his legitimacy from these same men, traditional elders who for long have assumed power. Faroole should learn from the mistakes of the previous administration, the failed Majiyahan project (Western Bari) after it’s course, the previous administration descended into a weak clan militia, and it’s orders contested by other communities in Bari region, the later (Qandala, Waaciye,etc). If Faroole decides to take course, it certainly will strengthen Mr. Atam and will further draw more support from the clan base. Petty platitudes, I say. These elders must be resolute enough to amass their support behind Faroole or Publicly renounce their allegiance to him...They cannot continue to want to remain stakeholders of Puntland and not back the elected head of that state. Now, if the elders, believe Atom is right, they should publicly proclaim this, denounce Faroole and live with the repercussions that such a decision will entail. Now, is that too much to ask of them?

Originally posted by Cowke: [...] Somaliland is different because they been always isolated from somalia politics their seems to be political discrimination against their clan for whatever reason it maybe. It might be historical reasons it might be they are not very strong clan!!! I don't know what it is but i do know there is discrimination against them at the official level and also in social level. What else can explain why they never allowed to get president? weligis ma dhicin from 1960 till today. Their must be reason for this. I hear a few reason for it. Some say they are not large clan therefore don't merit the presidency. Some even say way dhaqan xun yihin (what xoosh said). Cowke, go lay down for an afternoon nap and never get up again. That sh!t was hilarious.

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ Sax, adeer. Fariid baad tahay. Hadaba orodo xiniyaha eebe ku siiyaay ku ciyaar. Wow, told off by a Soomaali barbarad...things are really moving today.

^ lol Waa runtaa, aniga xiniinyo aad wax si toos ah aad igu tiraahdid Eebe kumuuna siinin ee dadka kale aad ku jeesjeesaysid ayaan u hadlayaa, marka taas hadal maka keeni doontaa?

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ Way to miss the point, son. Ngonge, I believe I missed nothing here. It's just that folks like y'all think finding fault in something is an intellectual accomplishment. It is not. It's easy to point at what's wrong with Puntland. It makes people like you feel distinguished when in reality that is a delusion. It takes character to point at what is right with Puntland. Pointing at what is wrong with Puntland is relevant when a Puntlander does it...somebody who actually has vested interest and insight and knows what makes Puntland the great place it is within Somalia, regardless of the issues of good governance and justice it has yet to resolve. I believe you, being from Marfishland, and yapping away about Puntland affairs illuminates an inadequate mind at work. That is, if you take it seriously. But know this...your snide comments have zero merit or substance. We've heard it all before from your fellow habros on SOL. Nothing new here. If I wanted to hear pretentious claptrap like that, I'd go poke fun at Oodweyne and read his mind numbing drivel till kingdom come...

^ Somaliland will NEVER get recognized, Ngonge; therefore I too, have no 'iota of doubt" about your "iota of doubt" ever materializing. But then again, la-la land is one heck of a place, right?

^ Nonsense. There can ONLY be one authority in the land; And that authority will be whoever becomes the victor between Atom or Faroole. Now I suggest that these elders you speak of should either renounce Faroole, their allegiance to Puntland and side with Atom publicly or they should help kick Atom's butt by supporting the government's agenda. They can't have it both ways and I believe they should not be allowed to do so, either. I'd just like to add that Faroole wasted valuable time early on in this whole Atom affair, thereby damaging his legitimacy on this matter. It made me wonder if the delays in containing this guy, not disbanding his small militia, not building the necessary support from the locals of those areas, etc., were deliberate and the inevitable emboldening of the ambitions of Atom would allow Faroole to say "See-- Al Shabab is setting up shop in Bari"--in the hopes of terrifying the population into going along with whatever capricious idea he fancies, like his recent attempt at creating a so-called court for the fight against terrorism, piracy and human smuggling, which was thankfully abnegated by the parliament(Or NOT!).

Lines Written Beneath an Elm in the Churchyard of Harrow by Lord George Gordon Byron Spot of my youth! whose hoary branches sigh, Swept by the breeze that fans thy cloudless sky; Where now alone I muse, who oft have trod, With those I loved, thy soft and verdant sod; With those who, scattered far, perchance deplore, Like me, the happy scenes they knew before: Oh! as I trace again thy winding hill, Mine eyes admire, my heart adores thee still, Thou drooping Elm! beneath whose boughs I lay, And frequent mused the twilight hours away; Where, as they once were wont, my limbs recline, But ah! without the thoughts which then were mine. How do thy branches, moaning to the blast, Invite the bosom to recall the past, And seem to whisper, as the gently swell, "Take, while thou canst, a lingering, last farewell!" When fate shall chill, at length, this fevered breast, And calm its cares and passions into rest, Oft have I thought, 'twould soothe my dying hour, - If aught may soothe when life resigns her power, - To know some humbler grave, some narrow cell, Would hide my bosom where it loved to dwell. With this fond dream, methinks, 'twere sweet to die - And here it lingered, here my heart might lie; Here might I sleep, where all my hopes arose, Scene of my youth, and couch of my repose; For ever stretched beneath this mantling shade, Pressed by the turf where once my childhood played; Wrapped by the soil that veils the spot I loved, Mixed with the earth o'er which my footsteps moved; Blest by the tongues that charmed my youthful ear, Mourned by the few my soul acknowledged here; Deplored by those in early days allied, And unremembered by the world beside.

One Word is Too Often Profaned by Percy Bysshe Shelley One word is too often profaned For me to profane it; One feeling too falsely disdained For thee to disdain it; One hope is too like despair For prudence to smother; And pity from thee more dear Than that from another. I can give not what men call love; But wilt thou accept not The worship the heart lifts above And the heavens reject not, - The desire of the moth for the star, Of the night for the morrow, The devotion to something afar From the sphere of our sorrow?

Sonnet #129 by William Shakespeare The expense of spirit in a waste of shame Is lust in action; and till action, lust Is perjured, murderous, bloody, full of blame, Savage, extreme, rude, cruel, not to trust; Enjoy'd no sooner but despised straight; Past reason hunted; and no sooner had, Past reason hated, as a swallowed bait, On purpose laid to make the taker mad: Mad in pursuit, and in possession so; Had, having, and in quest to have, extreme; A bliss in proof, and proved, a very woe; Before, a joy proposed; behind, a dream. All this the world well knows; yet none knows well To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell.

^ MMA is only pissed off at Al-Shabab, because they have refused to issue new building permits in Baidoa for Mud Huts to be constructed. So this has gotten personal for that poor soul. To MMA: C'mon man, get with the program, yo: Dhiiqada iska daa ee bulukeeti ku dhiso guryaha! I sympathizer with the building co-coordinators of Baidoa. You can't expect them to always clean after your mess every time the river flood its banks.

Arrests made in bomb attacks on World Cup fans in Uganda: KAMPALA, UGANDA -- Police have made several arrests in connection with the twin bombings Sunday that killed 76 people watching the World Cup final, Ugandan officials said Tuesday. Investigators also unearthed an unexploded suicide vest in a local discotheque -- suggesting that the Somali militants believed to be responsible for Sunday's deadly attacks had planned to bomb a third venue. The undetonated vest contained lines of ball bearings similar to material found after Sunday's bombings at an Ethiopian restaurant and a rugby club while hundreds of boisterous fans were watching the championship match between Spain and the Netherlands, police officials said. The discovery of the vest led investigators to believe that the deadly explosions were also carried out by suicide bombers, and that the bombings were an orchestrated effort. "What we found here is consistent with what we found on both scenes of crime. And so this is a very significant lead in our investigation," Kale Kayihura, Uganda's inspector general of police, told reporters. The tan vest, along with a white packet of explosives, a black carrying bag and detonator wires, were displayed on a table in front of him. Kayihura said the discovery of the vest suggested that there was a third bomber involved in the plot who had planned to attack the disco, but had become "a coward" and did not detonate his explosives. Kayihura did not provide the number of those arrested, but hinted that at least two were of Somali origin. He also raised the death toll from Sunday's explosions from 74 to 76. An American was killed, and a teenaged girl from Ellicott City, Md. was among several U.S. citizens who were wounded. Somalia's al-Qaeda-linked al-Shabab militia claimed responsibility for the explosions, saying they were in retaliation for the presence in Somalia of Ugandan and Burundian troops who form an African Union peacekeeping force that backs Somalia's weak transitional government. It was al-Shabab's first major transnational attack, triggering fears that Somalia's civil war could destabilize a region where Islamic militancy is growing. Al-Shabab has vowed to wage more attacks on Uganda, as well as Burundi , if they do not withdraw their troops from Somalia. Ugandan military officials have declared they would not pull out of the peacekeeping force, and instead would bolster their efforts against al-Shabab. In the wake of Sunday's attacks, however, opposition politicians are urging President Yoweri Museveni to withdraw the troops from Somalia. "This is a wake-up call for Uganda to realize that what our military does abroad has consequences at home," said Norbert Mao, president of Uganda's Democratic Party. Mao, who plans to run for the presidency of Uganda in the 2011 general elections, said other African countries are not contributing enough to the peacekeeping force. "If everybody does not pull their true weight, there's no reason for us to get stuck in Somalia in a quagmire," Mao said. Source: By Sudarsan Raghavan Washington Foreign Service Tuesday, July 13, 2010; 7:17 AM

Kambala:(Allpuntland)-Dawlada Ugandha ayaa shaaca ka qaaday in Qaraxyadii habeen hore gilgilay magaalada Kambala aysan waxba u dhimaynin howsha nabadeed ee ay Dalka Soomaaliya ka hayaan,waxaana ay Ugandha sheegtay inay sii siyaadinayaan howsha ay Soomaaliya u joogaan. Wasiiru-dawlaha Arimaha gudaha ee dalka Ugandha Matia Kasaija oo Warbaahinta kula hadlay magaalo madaxda dalkaas ayaa sheegey in Xukuumadiisu aysan walwal badan ka qabin Malayshiyaad ka Shabaab,waxaana uu intaas ku daray inay sii badin doonaan Ciidamada ka jooga dalka Soomaaliya. “Qaraxyadii kadhacay Kambala dawlada Ugandha & Beesha caalamku waa ay ka xumaadeen,laakiin taasi uma dhiganto inaanu joojinayno shaqadii aanu ka haynay dalka Soomaaliya,waxaanuna halkaas u diraynaa Ciidamo horleh si ay Walaalaha Soomaaliyeed u caawiyaan”Ayuu yiri Wasiiru-dawlaha Arimaha Gudaha e dawlada Ugandha. Mr,Kasaija wuxuu sheegey in Xukuumadiisu talaabo cad ay kaqaadan doonto dhibaatooyinkii dhawaan kadhacay magaalada Kambala,waxaana uu intaas ku daray in uu warbaahinta ka maqlay sheegashada Alshabaab,laakiin Xukuumadiisu ay si ka fiirsi leh uga jawaabi doonto Qaraxyadaas. Cabdiqani Xayir Allpuntland Source:

Originally posted by Maaddeey: Mr. Somalia, hadda ka hor sow kuma dhihin inaadan fahmo badneyn?, bal waxa aad igu heysato af Soomaali iigu sheeg! Maaddeey, Your post is typical in two ways: 1. Hatred of truth is evident. 2. An inability to understand the core message of Islam. For instance, you parrot isolated justifications for the Kampala carnage without understanding or even the remotest speck of insight. Do you even realize how contemptuous your reasoning is to the teachings of our Holy Prophet(p.b.u.h)? I suspect that you know nothing. Your mind is closed and blinded in your radical ideology. But I will enlighten you a bit by simply asking you to reflect on something. Do not provide simple platitudes without understanding, but think for a change: Now, your justifications for these Kampala murders were that, since Ugandan troops shell civilian neighborhoods in Mogadishu, it is just to kill Ugandan civilians in retaliation, all in the name of Islam, right??? Though I can understand your emotions in this are plentiful; it seems to me, the one that most dictates your point of view is Anger. Now as Muslims, we have been taught by our beloved Prophet (peace & blessings be upon him) that Anger is an evil emotion which leads to destruction and unwise reasoning. There's a reason why he (p.b.u.h) said "do not get angry" not once, not twice but THREE times. Islam is a religion of peace and as Muslims when we claim this, it should not be just lip-service but it should radiate in all our actions. That is why I do not believe the Kampala bombings, according to Al Shabab, to have been an act of worship or an act done in the defense of Islam because it clearly goes against every core principle of our noble religion. Allow me to remind you that Allah(S.W.T) has set us a criterion for what the correct conduct of a Muslim should be... In Surah Al-Furqan(Verses 63-70) The (faithful) slaves of the Beneficent are they who walk upon the earth modestly, and when the foolish ones address them answer: Peace; (63) And who spend the night before their Lord, prostrate and standing, (64) And who say: Our Lord! Avert from us the doom of hell; lo! the doom thereof is anguish; (65) Lo! it is wretched as abode and station; (66) And those who, when they spend, are neither prodigal nor grudging; and there is ever a firm station between the two; (67) And those who cry not unto any other god along with Allah, nor take the life which Allah hath forbidden save in (course of) justice, nor commit adultery - and whoso doeth this shall pay the penalty; (68) The doom will be doubled for him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein disdained for ever; (69) Save him who repenteth and believeth and doth righteous work; as for such, Allah will change their evil deeds to good deeds. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful. (70) Maaddeey, please point out to me where in the aforementioned verses lies instruction to kill, maim and bomb innocent civilian noncombatants EVEN in retribution? Or are you simply feigning ignorance of these divine commands? Or of the countless examples of our Holy Prophet(P.b.u.h) where he encourages mercy over vengeance; Love over hate; and patience over rashness? Do you easily forget when our Holy Prophet's blood was flowing profusely in Taif, and he was given the choice for each and every resident therein to be destroyed? Remember his noble and exemplary answer? Tell us Maaddeey, did he wrathfully say,"Off with their heads!" or didn't he show compassion to a people least deserved of it? I believe, Maaddeey, that you know the true answers to ALL the questions I've posed thus far, and I believe, it isn't necessary for me to repair your ignorance on this matter any further. We both know that Al Shabab are religious deviants who have opted for the usurpation of our blessed religion for their own selfish sublunary purposes by being a perfect example of a walking contradiction, i.e, their actions have ALWAYS belied their proclamations. In conclusion, Maaddeey... قَد تَّبَيَّنَ ٱلرُّشۡدُ مِنَ ٱلۡغَىِّ(Surah Al-Baqara 256) The ONLY true path is the one delineated, with wonderful power and patience, by The Almighty. So take it or leave it. Macsalaama.

^^ Hey, Maaddeey--Yours is the logic of a terrorist sympathizer, and no man can answer that. Your mind is warped by an innate principle of terrorist extremism, and therefore not accessible to the just teachings of Islam, or a desire to adhere to it's tenets regarding civilian noncombatants.

Work Without Hope by Samuel Taylor Coleridge ALL Nature seems at work. Slugs leave their lair— The bees are stirring—birds are on the wing— And WINTER, slumbering in the open air, Wears on his smiling face a dream of Spring! And I, the while, the sole unbusy thing, Nor honey make, nor pair, nor build, nor sing. Yet well I ken the banks where amaranths blow, Have traced the fount whence streams of nectar flow. Bloom, O ye amaranths! bloom for whom ye may, For me ye bloom not! Glide, rich streams, away! With lips unbrighten'd, wreathless brow, I stroll: And would you learn the spells that drowse my soul? WORK WITHOUT HOPE draws nectar in a sieve, And HOPE without an OBJECT cannot live.

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^ Yet the door to repentance remains wide open for all those misguided Somalis. Just like you seem to have forsaken those religious deviants-- which in the past you used to support-- many folks are slowly waking up to the reality of Al-Shabab.

^ The Al Shabab miscreants are on the precipice of defeat; if only we were blessed with a competent federal government in Mogadishu that could do us all a favor and push these religious deviants off the brink.

^

Originally posted by Nassir: Beeshu way haraado, hormood uma maqnee...... The rising star, Ikraan sings the above lyrics--in praise of Kulmiye--in sultry voice, donning on colorful traditional sarong . Her simple back-and-front slide may easily make a critic forget the sour taste underneath the message: a bleating cry for justice against the center, Hargeisa. The main clan of Bur'o, Togdheer region are today politically conscious and thus agitate for a democratic change. But Riyale is expected to prevail in this geographically and politically constrained election whose results (if it is announced in favor of the incumbent) might as well trigger in social unrest--and eventually the hard resolve by Silanyo's community to go their own seperate ways by ending an unholy marriage and the blind support of an implausible idea Make no mistake about it, the people of Bur'o are in many ways in favor of Somali unity. Many notable Somali nationalists whom we celebrate for their heroic struggle which liberated Somalia from the European colonialism of yore like Sheikh Bashir and Micheal Mariano both called Bur'o their home base. It is also the base of Northern al-Itihad group, a well-established business and religious community that is commercially linked to the booming North-eastern port town of Bosaso. Until the current euphoria subsides we might wait to witness how Bur'o is cracking it open the shell behind the kinship flag--the rallying cry for independence and of common grievances. The secession scheme has failed thus far only to create a political framework that resulted in a dominated position for the people of Bur'o during all these years of lawlessness and anarchy in Somalia. And it is ripe for manipulation unless tangible efforts are made to democratize the system and stanch the public bleeding Mr. Riyale and his power brokers instigated, a monumental task indeed. Silanyo now stands a slim chance of dethroning his rivals though he still has feverish supporters vowing to wreck the boat when Riyale gets re-elected. On the other hand, supporters of the incumbent governor are critical of Silanyo's ability to lead because of his age, fear of nepotism (recall how one of the esteemed elders of "Somaliland" spelled out his opposition to the Kulmiye out of clannish motivation), and alleged commission of past crimes against humanity during the SNM days. The new song promises stability, sustained rule of democracy and commitment to securing an international recognition once the Kulmiye party-led politician Mr. Silanyo can beat all predictions against his candidacy if he is allowed to freely and fairly thrash Riyale in the theatrical race to the presidency. But the fear of voilence within the secessionist block of former British Somaliland colony is for all intents and purposes undeniable cause for concern; it harks back to the structural set up of the political parties, engineered initially by late Mr. Egal after he was chosen by the clan Elders to form a government. The three parties were set up in a way that primarily excludes the major clan of Oodweyne for any meaningful role other than to throw in their weight in favor of either Udub - dominated by the folks of Saaxil region--or go with the party of their closest kith and kin, the Ucid frontrunner. At one time, Dr. Mohamed Abdi "Gabose" who hails from Oodweyne was arrested on July 28, 2007 for forming the political party, Qaran (The Nation). Amnesty International wrote, "The three Qaran leaders were charged with seditious assembly, on the grounds that they had held illegal public political meetings." Far from it, their case was to contest this election prior to its two-time suspension and to give political rights to the people of Oodweyne who felt that they had been deprived of the chance to compete and decide for their own interest. Their main political disadvantage is that they are spread out across several regions all of which they, geographically, constitute minority. However, there is a cry of hunger and thirsty in the minds of reer Bur'o today to defeat those who had already been dubbed as the "rightly guided" captain of this rickety seperatist boat--sailing into an uncharted territory--far away from its juridical harbour. Let's watch how the upcoming events unfold in the Triangle area... I am so glad you posted this right before I posted Nassir. You are definitely right!!!! The stars are in alignment for the mugged ones in Burco. Go Siilaanyo...

Originally posted by Oodweyne: ^^^ Che ,... Well, indeed, similarly, when you put aside your usual "suicide-admiring-ananchist-tendencies" of the "Taliban" sort of thing, in which unfortunately you may have been rather tragically "infected" during your sojournment, however brief it may have been, in the Pashtun's hinterland of Pakistan , one can see that you could really make immanent sense as well as a coherent logic of things, indeed... Regards, Oodweyne. ^ O.k, that was funny!

^ He knows very well. It just that he chooses to be arrogant about it, that's all.

Apology by Jason Whitmarsh That last love poem I gave you, I want to apologize for that. It was crudely put and several of the metaphors leaned too heavily on sea life. I love you so much more than that. The best part of the poem was the beginning, and that had nothing to do with you, or me, or how much either of us loves each other. It was just a line from another, better poem. Most of the poem sounds defensive, like I've been accused of not loving you, or you of not loving me. Not that I think I don't love you, or you me. I don't. Still, one could read a poem by someone else and it'd seem more authentic—you'd be more likely to think that poem was dedicated to you, I mean, than to think mine was. One could even argue, too, that by studiously avoiding your name or any identifying traits, I was making this poem fit for more than one person, like women in general, or a second wife, or your very attractive sister.

Originally posted by Rhazes: ^ Why is Puntland slow to follow suit? I think it is about time PL devised political parties and a voter registry. ^ I agree, though I personally believe Faroole isn't the man to take us there just yet. Unfortunately with some trepidation I say, we may have to wait until Faroole's tenure ends, before we can fully implement a multi-party system in Puntland. This is why I pray these elections in the north-west become a success. If they are; it will provide us proof that it is possible to implement a government by the people and for the people in all the regions of Somalia.