Salaamu Lah Let’s also remember brother SOS, that fatwas issued by ibn taymiyah(RA) during his time was considered against tradition and blasphemous and got him jail for the rest of his life, but today majority of the Muslim world follows many of his fatwas. This religion is raxmah, its not hard or extreme but raxmah to its followers. I don’t agree with many of Turabi's sayings, nor will I call them blasphemous since my knowledge is not equal to his, a little knowledge is dangerous they say. But show me where in Islam SOS, that it says a convert to Islam-a woman who has children and a husband….and no support in her community should get a divorce and break up her family? Again Al-Islam is raxmah, as long as she is not forced to abandon her religion she stay married to her husband, that is my understanding……please do share if u disagree.

My dear sisters think about this: "What I have forbidden for you, avoid. What I have ordered you [to do], do as much of it as you can. For verily, it was only the excessive questioning and their disagreeing with their Prophets that destroyed [the nations] who were before you". [Related by al-Bukhaaree and Muslim e.g bani Israel. All your questions have been asked by people stronger in intellect and more articulate then u, our ulma have answered each and every question. But people continue to raise baseless questions and Allah says: Their likeness is as the likeness of one who kindled a fire; then, when it lighted all around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness. (So) they could not see. They are deaf, dumb, and blind, so they return not (to the Right Path). [Al-Baqarah] If u are sincere in your questions then go to those who have knowledge, Proud_Muslimah did an excellent job, but u can't guide the blind or make hear the deaf. May Allah guide us all.

I agree with hodman, what do u know IB that we don't know? SO DO YOU HAVE A HERO, AND PLS TELL US WHO IT IS? Somali hero…..I don’t know…..I would say any of the men who fought the imperialist kufar Europeans…..paid their life with it…..and won independence for our nation. They are all heroes. And Aideed and his suckers trashed that nation. :mad: .....it is not necessarily a good things, not from my perspectives, because if it was not for him, Somalis would've still been using Arabic, and i would be having an easy life. IB we have our own culture and language of our forefathers, we share religion with the Arabs.....thats it....we have our own identity. whats up with you and arabs?

Scarface; this (IBtisam) is the independent women you use to here about and watch on MTV. Your card and you are worthless. Money cannot buy you Me; truth be told your taxi/security or even worse DSS money don't impress me. The daughter of a prince does not need to be a gold digger, especially with poor skinny farahs with yellow teeth!!! Now out of my way, I have given you more attention than you deserve. Ohhhh snap yo scarface you got played . Just back down dude you can’t beat me, I am a Prince the Romeo always gets the girl. My habeebti O she that is walks in beauty, your knight in armor has returned…..my lady scarface promises you khat, one gangasta card…part-time loving…..shopping and dinning at places which do not befit princesses smiley…….I promise to be there for you morning, noon, and night…..dinning under the starry nights…….diamonds, pearls and all that which is right…..baby if I am your prince never will you worry about anything……. girl I can do you like no other can…….. Come on scarface……now what? Gotta go peace out

She says: "I hate that stereotype of women." then says: "Cause I know that no faraax is either smart or has a cut body." now how u gonna do dat and sterotype brothas like that. How u know we aint cut, u haven't seen all of us. ladies stop the skinny jokes :mad: most brothas wouldn't be skinny if yall were doing your job and feeding us between those two choices vibe, beauty easy choice.

^^^^Respect is great trait to have Zarqa lol@ Red, nameless? come on. sis your cool but nothing coo about your name my fav name is Jawahiir most beauitful name by far. Jawahiir, Jawahiir, can make song out of that. special name. jawahiir, jawahiir, jawahiir did i mention i dig that name peace out

Hold up, hold up, hold up! Wait a minute! I Prince Khalaf decedent of a noble linage of Kings went to the wilderness for a day, and I return to see my princesses, my lady, my love, the flower of Somalia, quruxdi Africa surrounded by my enemy Scarface and his right hand man Yahoo_UK. I was advised to never leave thee alone O she that walks in beauty. Maddened by the sight of jerry curl khat in his right hand grabbing my habeebti I raise my sword high preparing for blood shed, but like the coward he is he signals his men to leave……before he leaves I warn him if I ever catch you near what is mine you will get an early death…..and as God is my witness a merciless death it shall be. I turn to my lady, look into her beautiful fake blue eyes, she looks at me for a long minute with an expression of grief and walks away disappearing into the castle. I stand there alone, many questions running through my mind. Have I lost her? Can I trust her? Is this her way of making me jealous by giving her noble attention to another man? I wish to tell her sorry my love for spending many nights away, for not being here to protect you and hold you, for taking your precious company for granted. I can not, how could she do this behind my back……how could she? Her attention is mine alone, doesn’t she know dat? My absence provided an opportunity but from now on I shall keep her close…….and watch out for the plots of Scarface and Yahoo_UK. ps: Jamilah sis lol@ funky sheikh, what are u going to call me now

Thanks for the offer but I would prefer to be Treasure of Somalia imagine with my future "business skills" how Somalia could be rich. With some females in the government Somalia could be a changed country for the better of course. ---Sis aight I put you to the test, as head of treasure department in Somalia how would you run the countries economy? Lets hear your policy. i have not even posted on this thread yet!!1 why oh why, these little boys;..... ---check again little girl, you did post on this thread. Question for u, I am the President of Somalia, you are the first lady how u gonna put it on me....I mean lets hear your policy as the first lady if you guys run somaliland/somali i would stay in London or go home sweet home, where there are no skinny farahs calling names!!! ---What u got against Somalis? Home sweeet home, in arabiya? Nah since I am president as the first lady of Somalia u most join me in our presidential sweet a strong brown hut in the outskirts of mogadisho. no room to run in here

Red its old song, um to sexy for my shirt. I aint fag don’t need hours in front of a mirror. nothing wrong with taking good care of yourself tho, look good, smell good, ladies dig it. peace out

LOL Red, fooled me bro. I knew some was up your internet access couldn’t be in Hargeysa. If it was at Hargeysa u be on SOL once every three months ps: bro don't mind what others say, your good brotha thats your hometown post pictures aint nothing wrong with dat.

Tough crowd. Facklexm ill play this game its like we back in high school. Sexy I couldn’t use that with muslims do to respect. um sure tho my pretty boy looks and good charm is hard to beat. Um to sexy for shirt, so sexy for shirt yeh…… King of SOL-brother Nur his posts are the most beneficial he’s good brotha Allah bless and keep up good work bro. Lotta gueens here, intelligent sisters but in my book one takes the price She has an ego equal to ten men.……she is not a flower…..... reading some of her posts I can just imagine her hollering at the screen mutha fcuka**** Waryaa saqajaan yo ho…..... she is fire She’s cool sista tho, if u still doob by the time your 27 holla at yo boy, you can rent my fine services. peace out

Red bro I would make a great President, Ill run for office one day inshallah. Homeland security dep and defense dep are not the same, I was kidding tho. If I was Amir I would introduce Islamic Rule, to practice or believe another law other then Allah’s Law is better is form of shirk I heard. And u can have the job of religion bro, you will be in charge of making sure girls like IB and nameless wear their full body armor, hijab or else face stringent justice. Kidding ladies, if I was Amir woman would honored and protected. Red bro in Hargeysa you familiar with MLK and the Prince? I did read that book, didn’t finish it tho I heard saddam read it not a good formula to lead a country. Another great book bro The Art of War by Sun Tzu. Peace out

Hey Sheikh Khalaf, do that in little more logical way and edit those Qabiil names,then I tell you my friend it would make a heck of a speech.Very unfunny otherwise. They say the khat part killed it, I say the Qabiil part killed it,you could have used regional terms instead of the qabiil names, also you expose your lack of knowledge of Qabiil, good for you brother. I am proud of you that you don't even know the qabiil names.We need to forget about the whole darn thing, it did more damage to us by using it, let it not be our identity, how is that sound? I say let us not call ourselves of our Qabiil names and see the results. ---Brotha Red, not a sheik man, great title not worthy of it. don’t let the avatar fool u. Speech is by MLK, if u are familiar with it then u would get why I put qabil. Regional terms, loool man what? Um telling all of you, do we want peace in Somalia? Elect us as the next cabinet to lead the country. Imagine yo, Me-President, Red-u can be vice-president, Scarface-Defense department, Nameless-Department of State, Lilly-Department of Education, Yahoo_UK-Department of Homeland Security, Diggy_Style-Department of Justice, Ibtisam-u get the best job-First lady like true nomads we will build hut in the outskirts of mogadishu peace

^^^ Peace is unattainable because Palestine is occupied, the people are denied and killed . If I come and take over your home by force and occupy your territory with brutal force, you have every right to defend yourself by any means necessary. Palestinians tried peace, they protested peacefully the world turned a blind eye the Jews slaughtered them thus they stopped throwing rocks, took up guns again they were overpowered and murdered, the only way they can defend themselves against a greater powerful enemy which continues to kill their people is to sacrifice their own bodies. If peace is desired then Palestine belongs to the Palestinians until that happens Jihad should continue.

^^^^^Relax bro joking, I am against Khat as a muslim, I c it as haram(intoxicant) but its part of somali Identity ignore khat part ppl. make it good peeps finish the speech. peace

Lilly sis don’t hate to remind me I appreciate it. its good to be humble and not arrogant or pridful. How u took it is not what I meant tho. What I was getting at was there is nothing wrong with being happy and proud of who you are: your race, ethnicity, religion, country. Again in islam intention is everything, if this is done to show off then its diff story. Yo I got an idea: let’s write I have dream speech for Somalia. Shot peeps. Here we go: I have dream that one day that the Maryooleey nation Horn of Arica will rise up and live out the true meaning of our creed: La illah illa-Allah wa ash-hadu anna Mohammedan abdulhu wa Rasulah. I have dream yes’sa'! that the sons of reer Darrod and the sons of reer hawiyee, yes’sa I have dreaaaaam that the sons of reer issaQ and the sons of reer MJeertaan, yes’sa I have dream that the sons of reer xamar and the sons of reer Bantu, yes’sa I have dream that all the sons of reer habel habel, subhabel habel can sit down at the table and drink some tea and chew some Khat in peace……………..take it away yo

According to what or whom? The Quraan teachs us that life began in paradise. Adam was created from mud taken from the four corners of earth and when he decended on earth - he landed somewhere in India (according to one group) or Taif. . The first to descend upon earth was shaytaan, he was the first of creation to make analogous conclusions (I am such, therefore I am better). Allah cursed him and forbidden him entry to jannah. Blessed I am confused by the bold the statements can u clarify sis. Landed on India? Thought it was Mecca. First to decend on earth was shaytaan, I thought it was the angles were here? :confused: salaamu lah

IB, no sister I don't. Isku xishood. salaam and good luck on your essay.

Somali people older people have strange views about it, for example whenever me and my family talk about it, the female always insist it is torture and a burden on women and men are selfish assholes, who only see their desires and nothing else. , yaaaa Raab! IB shhhhhhhhh! run away from this topic, not good for my virgin eyes Why would u want to talk about sex between the sexes, its bound to get dirty. We are Muslims!

IB, yaa habeebti u gotta alot learning to do Suji are somalis who are from der salaam Tanzania or in kenya, in my opinion we are the least qabilist and reer xamar, and those who make Islam their qabil. Lilly there is nothing wrong with pride for your own kind, as long as doesn't make u an oppressor and transgressor. Islam is our only cure.

Indeed we are the ambassadors of Islam to the public. A friend converted to Islam, alhamdu. Indeed only Alone guides but people will judge Islam from what they see in us. We play ball together and attend same school when time for prayer came we stopped and prayed salat, and the brother said that is what lead him to Islam. We never preached to him, our actions speak louder then words. he practices Islam with greater zeal then us today. All praise is to Allah, Muslims are good people, welcoming to others when non-Muslims meet us they see true Islam. we should reach out more. But not to compromise Islam. I joined this interfaith at my masjid, we went to a church right, all religious groups were there. Speaker from each group went up to podium to discuss the tenants of their faith, all the speakers talked about the similarities between religions, brotherhood and all that non-sense (Islam is peace Muslims are good people but come on, we know they hate the Muslims). At the end of ceremony, candles were light (didn’t get one its innovation), church choir sung people stood up, I sat (not our tradition), it was pity seeing some of the Muslims among our group signing psalms and hollaluya. That was the end for me with interfaith groups. We should follow the way of the companions-be the Qu’ran in action but we shouldn’t become softy softy to please our neighbors on issues we differ on. Ps: Nur JZK brother for taking time to taking these articles from archives. salaamu lah

hate is strong word brother, i don't think we hate each other its pride. want this to stop my people? let us sujis takeover . Simple solution. salaamu lah

^^^^^Allahu Akbar! "our governmnet" Bush and crew don't give shit about negros.

Blessed sister, being 99% Muslim, but what is Muslim though? becuase your name is Muhammad or Aisha or your forefathers are muslim doesn't make u ready for shariah. I don't think we are ready for shariah, true we are Muslims but there is no jamaat ul islamiya -first condition for shariah to be established like in Madinah. A Madinah first, then a Khalifah. Thus how do establish Madinah in this century? My answer: Jihad, against our selfs & against the kufars and hypocrites. Nur brother, my response would be what is best for my interest as the landlord, we are bani adam we look out for our own ends. But my brother in Islam, Allah is Most Merciful and Islam is Al-Raxmah, human beings don’t forget or forgive, But Allah is Most Great and Most Kind to His slaves.

6. Agree with people as much as possible Start off agreeing with a person. It will completely turn the tables on the discussion, as many people begin discussions on women in Islam assuming Muslims are completely against the notion of women's rights. --Wrong. Al-Islam can not be compromised to appease people or agree with them. Stay true to our teachings, despite disagreement or dislike from the people. Other then that, thanks sister for the reminder. Its hard as a Muslim to see the sisters not wearing hijab or behaving like kufars, but as brothers we don’t understand what they go through and I admit at times not sympathetic to it. Indeed the best speaker for Women in Islam-are the believing women who commit to Al-Islam may Allah give all of you strength and much kahyr in this life and in akhira, tho I don’t say salaam around campus, but by Allah I feel proud & happy as a Muslim seeing our sisters in hijab, the symbol of islam represented in the midst of Kafur, the beauty of Islam embodied. Kahyr, respect, & all that is good for the nisa al-mu'minin. Salaamu lah