Originally posted by Suleyman: The purpose of this thread was to address those who dishonestly or in ignorance vilify the character of another Muslim brother but yet do not have the slightest idea that Col. Barre Hiiraale is taking their hasanaat while they continue to spew these calumnious words. Know that it is the duty of a Muslim to defend his brother and warn his other brothers who are carrying out these acts or do some of you not consider Col. Barre Hiiraale as a Muslim? If I did not create this topic out of love for you as my brothers and my obligation to defend my brothers, your sayi`aat would have increased unknowingly. I am confused ninyahow, please explain to me why you are being selective here? If you are for justice as Muslim then shouldnt you make your apeal a general warning....ppl here talk about "leaders" rightfully or wrongfully not just Hiraale...arent the other "leaders" also Muslim brothers :confused: And you use the Quran and Hadith, ya Allah. Just admit ninyahow Barre is close to you in relation dont bring the Quran and Hadith in to this.

Shukran yaa muminah!!! I know sister.... just hurts to see thou. this is all the work of satan reminds me of this surah: He(satan) said: "Because You have sent me astray, surely I will sit in wait against them (human beings) on Your Straight Path. Then I will come to them from before them and behind them, from their right and from their left, and You will not find most of them as thankful ones (i.e. they will not be dutiful to You)." Quran AL-Araf One of the ways Satan leads human beings astray is by making evil look good. On this point, ibn al-Qayyim wrote the following: 'From his strategem is that he always bewitches the mind until he can deceive the person. No one is safe from his bewitching except whomsoever Allah wills. He makes good looking to him what harms him the most, until he imagines that it is the most beneficial act for himself. And he makes him flee from the most beneficial act until he thinks it is something harmful to him. Certainly, there is no god but Allah. How many humans have been tested by such sorcery. How many hearts have been kept from Islam, faith and goodness [by such sorcery]. And how many support and present falsehood in the best form and hate truth and present it in the worst form [because of his deception]. And how much falseness is adorned and shown in a desirious manner to the alert. And how much falseness is spread among the wise. He is the one who bewitches the mind until it follows different desires and various evil opinions. He makes them follow every path of misguidance. He leads them to actions, one after another, that cause their destruction. He makes appealing to them the worship of idols, the breaking of familial relationships, the killing of daughters, marrying one's mother and so on. And he promises them the victory of paradise with their infidelity, wickedness and acts of disobedience. He presents to them polytheism in the most honorable fashion. And he presents rejection of Allah's attributes, of His transcendence and of His speech in the guise of anti-anthropomorphism of Allah. He presents abandoning ordering good and eradicating evil in the guise of having mercy for others, behaving with others in a good manner, and applying the verse, "O believers, you are in charge of your own souls" (al-Maidah 105). And he presents turning away from what has come from the Messenger in the guise of blindly following the Imams (taqleed) and the sufficiency of following one who is more knowledgeable. And he presents hypocrisy and compromising with respect to Allah's religion in the guise of being flexible and mixing admirably with the people.' Lo! My faithful bondsmen over them you have no power and your Lord suffices as their guardian.” (Al-Israa 65). May we die as mumins. Amiin!!! peace out

I cant read what was written mostly af somali :mad: ...but I get the title. Xishood is rahmah from Allah and is required by both genders, Allah has also told us to lower our gaze, ect. But I know these girls excuse my language “hoes†what else are they? those who think its ilbax reer magal to dress and behave like the worst of kufar society you see them at weddings and acudi billah on the internet such as kufar websites like somaligate. :mad: Do they think they are beautiful? Noooooooo walaahi they are very ugly, and Allah’s curse is upon them!! I would never want girl like them!!!! They will only end up with the worst.....good men are for good women, and bad men are for bad women!!!! May Allah Guide Them!!!!! I got pissed off after all they are Somali "muslims". But then I thought yo whores have always existed ninyahow. To you be your way and to us be ours......damn look we got so called born Muslims like that ugly whore Ayan cursing the nabi pbuh, probably got Somali fags and porn stars somewhere, so man calm down these hoes posing for pictures is probably not the worst in this community. Qaxooti who are from a “muslim†history behaving like this acudui billiah. But Allahu Akbar ya Allah---, look for example at the beautiful blonde hair blue eyes white sisters who have entered Islam, who have left kufar ways, who dress with hijab some even niqaab, with good Islamic manners mashallah may Allah give you Jannah....truely Allah will replace the so called Muslims with better ppl!! Ahh wanted to get dat out!!! I meant no offense to the women!!!! Peace out!!! May Allah forgive me If I said anything wrong!!!!Amiin

I applaud the strength of black women for standing for their moral principles and voicing their objections to their spouses. this reminds me of BET comedy i watched while back about difereence between black and white women. Example: You have fight with your wife. White Wife You: Honey can we talk about this later, I am running late to work. Her: Okey honey we will talk about this later. She lets her husband go to work, and finds better time to talk to him. The Black Wife You: Baby I have get to work, lets talk about this later. Her: Hell nah nigga we gonna finish this now. You: baby i have to get to work., you drive off. you go to work, minutes later her is your wife, yelling and screaming, bringing that to work. For sure they are strong women ps: it was much funnier how he did it...black women as my boy said, is like living with another man lol peace out

^^^^lol but I dont need to hold my girl's hand in public to show love, love is natural it should flow, dont need to follow no to do list. Come from the heart, its not learned....some ppl cant do all dat its out of character but that don’t mean they don’t love. To the sisters curious not a saqjaan: what about kissing on the mouth, not mac on lips and dats it, but like tongue-long kissing? How many would do that be real.

^^^^ u dont believe that? If you do min fadlik check yourself to mental hospital ASAP. Imam Mahdi linage has been told to us, he will not come from Somalia nah I meant Somaliland-Land of Somalia , but Madina Arabiya ya dig Imam Mahdi

Originally posted by Valenteenah: Ok then. :eek: I know :eek: subhanallah :eek: :eek: aight now whats the translation summary? I want to be shocked too! :eek: :eek:

For those of us living in non-Islamic West and keep to Islam I remember the imam at my masjid explaining this Hadith, I can not explain well maybe inshallah Nur can help us: Narrated AbuTha'labah al-Khushani: AbuUmayyah ash-Sha'bani said: I asked AbuTha'labah al-Khushani: What is your opinion about the verse "Care for yourselves". He said: I swear by Allah, I asked the one who was well informed about it; I asked the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) about it. He said: No, enjoin one another to do what is good and forbid one another to do what is evil. But when you see niggardliness being obeyed, passion being followed, worldly interests being preferred, everyone being charmed with his opinion, then care for yourself, and leave alone what people in general are doing; for ahead of you are days which will require endurance, in which showing endurance will be like grasping live coals. The one who acts rightly during that period will have the reward of fifty men who act as he does. Another version has: He said (The hearers asked:) Apostle of Allah, the reward of fifty of them? He replied: The reward of fifty of you. And Allah knows Best

^^^right on brother i thought i was da only one bilan i do think mama i think Originally posted by ibtisam: Khalaf; My dear, take a chill bill, don't you know that that It is a wedding.!!! not a bin bag occassion or a Islamic Lecture. There is got to be a little something, something on display. p.s. She is not half naked only her hair and one arm is showing, which is saddaqa. :cool: [/QB] loooooooool wax walan...I know u are only joking and u know diinta yaa Ib. I don’t want to get into this again lool.....as the hadith says If you feel no shame then do as you wish!! Min fadlikum thou sister think about this ayat: "And whosoever opposes the Messenger, even after the guidance has been clearly conveyed to him, and follows a path other than that of the Believers, We shall leave him in the path he has chosen and land him in Hell, what an evil destination." [soorah an-Nisaa 4:115]. mida kalee every act IB wedding or not in a Muslims life is an act of ibadah-a Worship of Allah Most Great. Inshallah when its your day my sister resemble the noble women of sahbah the women of paradise not the kufar corrupt women whom the prophet said will never smell the fragrance of paradise, sing the Praises of Allah Most Great takbir iyo Allah Akbar, not munkar iyo music, start that day under the shade of the Quran with a farah of course. :cool:

Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool waraa u are mad funny kaftan badanaa. Pucca tell dem to stop nooh. tuuj homie think bigger my islamic teacher taught me to mix with the ppl to either increase your piety or your knowledge wherever you are. The sister may think I am all buuq cool but someone else may learn a point or two as I do from others....ya get me sxb. Also ninyahow gabdaha la shukansado wa gabdhaha hadal ka wanaagsan o qalbiga macaan nooh .

Before I answer those questions, I think its best if I ask you question to see where you are coming from cool? What is a Muslim? And how should a Muslim view/follow the Quran and Sunnah? I mean is the Quran a spiritual guide eg, what position should the Quran and Sunnah hold in a Muslims life? Shukran.

Naden. we know islam has been completed for us, we know with the Quran and Sunnah we will never go astray. What is missing is jammat islamiya. A community of believers-a group to lead the way. A mu’min doesn’t have nationality, his nationality is Islam, his country is darsalaam, his loyalty is to the Quran, these borders were craved out by colonizers. After the unity of a jammat, follow the footsteps of our nabi pbuh islam takes shape in the society, a living Islam-a Medina. Start small. this has alreadly been lived by earlier generation of Muslims. There is no big difference between back then and now, the challenges are the same. Do you agree? What is your opinion about the Muslim Ummah and how it can be revived, or is it beyond repair?

Originally posted by Tuujiyee: Khalafnaa wa khamiiranaa wa qash qashaadinaa....... Waraa adiga jileec nimada jooji nooh..Bajaqdaas wee kugu daadisay ku daadi adna nooh... Itaqu laah maku shaqeyneeso aan ku dhahay...bacdaa dhuuqso abaabiina..waa lagu dardaraa runtii..bajaq bajaq waaxid....... Wareer Badanaa!!! Yo tuuj joker man, parts that I understood it reminded me of the Hadith that one saxbah was telling another to stop being modest (shy), the prophet pbuh overheard and told them modesty is part of iman, same “softnessâ€-kindness in character to other muslims particular the woman is part of iman sxb, there is no shame in my game. Ninyahow it don’t matter the insults of women, hooyo always said gabdhaha lama caayo, excuse them they were created from the rib nooh. _____________________________________________ Amelia first an islaan :eek: now your pops :eek: when most here are older then me wa cajiib. Glade tidings to the strangers... there are many stranger then me in terms of thinking. I am the odd one in this post looooooooool.....a mark of genius. :cool: Amelia lets explore your pops theory its important, let the wise (me) school u at your level. Aight, example we use is SOL and the nomads are the population of this home SOL. Since SOL society is not an anarchy, it sets guidelines, rules, and laws which the nomads-population most follow. There will be many who obey these rules but there will be some who rebel and break these rules. They start cursing, insulting, no respect, posting pornography (the diseases). The "silent majority" will break into groups when faced with this situation: 1. Be those who say live and let live- mind yo business nooh 2.Insult back and participate, the environment is big influence. 3.Enjoy good and forbid wrong. It is trait of a Muslim that they dislike munkar! If group one and two are dominate in the population, the diseases spreads and affect larger portion of the population whom obeyed the law in the beginning. Only with group 3 are diseases controlled and can a society function healthily. Many times I heard live and let live, mind your business, faith is between me and Allah, ect. For example friends who have haram relationships, do drugs, club, behaving unIslamically, ect. If we the Muslims in our communities allow this and turn blind eye, we will be the worst and curse will be upon us. The Muslims are called the best of mankind is because of spreading good and forbidding munkar. That is what the sahbah did they advised and corrected the jahliyah ways, they didn’t say to themselves mind your business as many of us do today. The prophet was asked: "Shall we be destroyed though there are righteous people among us?" The Prophet said, "Yes, if evil increased." How many times have u seen a Muslim doing Islamically wrong did u correct him? There are many examples in Quran, Hadith that it is important part of being Muslim. I heard from imam “an era will come in the near future when Islam will exist mearly in name and Quran will exist merely in phraseâ€, this is our era for sure. Why because we have abandoned Amr bil ma’ruf wa nahi anil munkar....jahilnimo alien ways to Islam have become popular. Again glad tidings to the strangers, jannah is surrounded by hardship!

My brother, I know ninyahow its frustrating. Walaahi my brother, you are not on the same level as the somali culture cats ninyahow, we cant understand each other, dont get down and dirty with their politics....there is enough Slanders and Planders, Xlanders ect do that amongst themselves looool.....always my brother stick to justice....we slip at times because its natural. The reminder is for men of understanding...you are a good brother. Ramadaan Kariim.

looooooooooooooooooooooool@ this. I looked at the titles business man arrested in Hergeysa, Hargeysawi lady arressted in Bosaso.....come on brothers!!!! What do u gain from this, how does this help? :confused: it only divides us! Walaahi this is stup1d, we are muslims and these corrupt governemnts/police dont represent any one of us...world-over these governemnts dont represent the ppl...they are controlled. This is dumb.....I know some somalis are dumb and will blame entire qabiils for this like the wadaad who was suposdly abused blaming it on the qabiil! Cut this bull, we are brothers....there is no benefit in this for us nor for victims.

Tuuj ninyahow its cool, walaahi she had me laughing hard loooooool me and amelia are cool do I sound dat bad c’mon yaa Amelia istagfruallah, how u gonna do me like dat or is it something else ....what shouldve I said or sound like....I say what I learn from the learned of Islam-I am among the strangers . By Allah its disappointing that peeps here don’t find this wrong strongly....Muslim women are not for show Amelia, brothers should honor and respect their wives and sisters and not put them on public display for other dudes to talk about or watch videos of their women dancing and partying.. if that sounds like islaan ouch! to u my sister, then I am cool with that....It is Allahs pleasure and favor I seek. Alxamdu it aint ZU-Tuuj quit the jokes....lailah this thread is not deleted :mad: :confused:

North my brother no you don’t make sense, u confused me man walaahi. . Looking foward to what u trying to say. Brother Nur, your right. As you explained before in another thread the current situation is messy and confusioning. There is no single muslim entity, there is no unity, there is no leader.I read Qutbs may Allah be pleased with him Milestone, and Under the Shade of the Quran, and he described that we are in the meccan period. There is small group of Muslims wanting to set up an Islamic government and as the Quresh and superpowers Persia, Roma in the past, the superpowers of today including their “muslim†helpers will do everything they can to stop it. As those during the time of the Rasul pbuh called him madman, and his followers lunatics ect, the propaganda peeps today are doing the same. I quote Bush the leader of the “freeworld†about the current affairs: The terrorists who attacked us on September the 11th, 2001, are men without conscience -- but they're not madmen. They kill in the name of a clear and focused ideology, a set of beliefs that are evil, but not insane. These al Qaeda terrorists and those who share their ideology are violent Sunni extremists. They're driven by a radical and perverted vision of Islam that rejects tolerance, crushes all dissent, and justifies the murder of innocent men, women and children in the pursuit of political power. They hope to establish a violent political utopia across the Middle East, which they call a "Caliphate" -- where all would be ruled according to their hateful ideology. Osama bin Laden has called the 9/11 attacks -- in his words -- "a great step towards the unity of Muslims and establishing the Righteous… [Caliphate]." This caliphate would be a totalitarian Islamic empire encompassing all current and former Muslim lands, stretching from Europe to North Africa, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia. We know this because al Qaeda has told us. About two months ago, the terrorist Zawahiri -- he's al Qaeda's second in command -- declared that al Qaeda intends to impose its rule in "every land that was a home for Islam, from [spain] to Iraq. He went on to say, "The whole world is an open field for us." speech Quotes from Noble Quran: "How (can it be)! while if they prevail against you, they would not pay regard in your case to ties of relationship, nor those of covenant; they please you with their mouths while their hearts do not consent; and most of them are transgressors." "Their intention is to extinguish Allah's Light with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it)." We witnessed extreme opposition to Islamic Law-the Laws of Allah Most Great in Afganistan, Iraq, Algeria, acroos the Muslim World. Afgans were denied to call their republic "Islamic republic of Afganistan", Pual Bremer in Iraq refused shariah, only lip service to it. This is really not about extermists, but the Quran itself. 21st century I think will see big changes in the Muslim World, but what will it take to wake up the sleeping giant-the Muslim Ummah?

Ninyahow...I am only a young guy who is still learning and will make many mistakes, writing doesn’t always do justice to your tone or your intentions. I am not harsh person or seef labood I cant always convey the message in the best way tho. This is danbii still and its best if the thread was removed. Second, the ehlul deen somalis are the best of our ppl few wadaads are seef laboods who have lotta learning left marka don’t put everyone on the same list....nor think those with Islamic tones as wadaads. We are all simple muslims who will error much, none is above the other except those who Allah favors and forgives and may Allah forgive us all. Amiin. Salaamulah.

Tuckaale ninyahow your right, I didn’t think it was our brother or I wouldn’t have said that seef labode kii la sheeg jira...I too need wisdom. I apologize for my part. The prophet Nabi said: none of you truly believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself, I wish you and your family all the best in this life and in the hearafter my brother, may Allah forgive us all. Amiin. My fault. salaamulah

What is Islamism? We hear groups like bin ladans, Hamas, Jihad, Talban Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Jammat Islamiya, and now our own ICU being called Islamists, Jihadists. So what does this term mean? Why is the US a great superpower afraid of a rise of Islamism-poltical Islam? Why has been Islamism been called the greatest threat to western civilization? Heres how author Ullah Jan describes Islamism most important is the bolded part. According to the neo-cons ideology — embraced by the war lords in Washington and the neo-mods of Islam [1] — Muslims are in search of their past glory. In their view, Islam was a religion of success, a winners’ religion. [2] Proponents of this theory make the world believe that Muslims are divided because of their perceptions and the methodology they propose for regaining the past glory. The trauma of Muslims history is said to have begun with Napoleon’s landing in Alexandria. It is argued that there have been three main responses to this trauma: “secularism, which means openly learning from the West and reducing Islam to the private sphere; reformism, which means appropriating from the West, saying that the West really derives its strength by stealing from Muslims, therefore Muslims may take back from them, a middle ground; and Islamism, which stressed a return to Islamic ways but in fact takes hugely and covertly from the West — without wanting to, perhaps, but still very much doing so.†[3] Interestingly, the so considered responses are actually some of the basic causes of this trauma. The beginning of Muslims outward downfall actually started in 1492, long before Napoleon’s landing in Egypt, when the Amir of Granada, the capital of Muslim-ruled Spain, agreed to a treaty with King Ferdinand & Queen Isabella: that if the Muslims were to submit to the laws of the Church, all of their homes, mosques, madrassas, and institutions of education and learning would be preserved and protected. This was the beginning of Muslims’ shifting their focus and trust from where it should have been. Not surprisingly, within 15 years, every mosque was destroyed, libraries burnt, volumes of Islamic literature lost forever, houses ransacked, Muslim women raped, and entire families burnt at the stake for not professing the Catholic faith in what is now called the Inquisition! Similarly, the division among Muslims is not a recent phenomenon. It is not the result of responses to the so-called trauma. It is part of the overall strategy to keep Muslims traumatized and weak. The same way, secularism is not a response to the trauma. This is a disease spread among Muslims for what Daniel Pipes clearly calls “reducing Islam to the private sphere.†Muslims have seen over 500 years of Secular rule and they are now reaping its rotten fruits. What the neo-cons call Islamism and define as “an ideology that demands man's complete adherence to the sacred law of Islam†[4] is actually Islam. Living by Islam, which also includes adherence to the sacred law, is one of the basic obligations that make one a Muslim, not an Islamist. Full article an important note he makes is that groups which interpret extermism, ect...there action can be put up against the Quran/Sunnah and if contary then it is bidah. But this is true Islamism is only Islam....Islam is not a private religion...no seperation between Masjid and State.

Originally posted by Tuujiyee: Waraa waa quuq badan tahay........It was un islamic wedding anyways..taas maa ka hadashid? and why don't you talk about why ZU had to have such wedding... The man posted this on every site..even his soccer/football team's site nooh..... Pictures are taking to show it of, and once is public, is public abti..buuqa badan naga daa oo bax wacdigaada meel kale la raadso....Shukhul maxkamadees aa anaga noo bilaabee...Alle Ubaahne aan qaata bilaah ka joogne, adoo Khalafsan aa isa soo sharxeysid............. Wareer Badanaa!!! Adeer what you call quuq is wisdom that I got from the learned of Islam, how u quoted me out of context is misleading sxb....what I said and what any learned Muslim will agree to is that it is not right the practices our Somali breathen posting the pictures of their wife/women on the internet or recording videos...or as u said having unIslamic weddings.....and as a Muslim first and foremost my opinions are Islamically motivated and not culturally or western ways of thinking that its sign of da times no biggie....this is very wrong read the Quran, seerah of nabi or ask any learned Muslim. Second dont furthur danbii for ppl who dont know. Adeer I am not doing wacdii-its my opinions nor I am crazy like Ubaahne dude is in a league of his own. I am just a Muslim who wishes all of our akhlaaq iyo actions follows the way of the companions....the best community.

more jahliyah cultural Somalis...bantus :eek: :eek: . getting married in church with the cross instead of masjid and having a half-naked bride :rolleyes: music iyo munkar...weddings looking like hschool dances..........jahilyaaaah browing word my little sister yuuuuuuck!!!!!!!! istagfruallah peace out

Originally posted by Valenteenah: An overreaction, surely? The whole point of wedding photographs is to show them off. [/QB] No walaahshiis just pissed at somali culture thats all...not only this but all over. its cool to show wedding photos/videos but only to other females and family members....that is if u have taqwa and those who have taqwa are the best ppl. No brother or[ family] who has aqeeda, respect would want even his sisters and we are talking about WIFE for others to publically discuss good or badly. I have seen brothers watch wedding videos and talk about the women disrespectfully she ugly damn she fine oh look at her its show...your bride is not a show for others to enjoy........this is wrong and I would break necks if these females were related to me but it is the fault of the party getting marrired they are clear jahliyah cultural Somalis...plz learn and follow the religion. Dumb ppl walaahi! Ps: Seeker is right and may Allah forgive us....we don’t have bad intentions we are just ignorant....we think this is fun to make ppl laugh by making up stories but we should remember never to lie to make others laugh: The Prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam said, “Woe to the person who tells lies as jokes to make people laugh. Woe to him, Woe to him!†I know i sound strange I get that from our ppl lighten up nooh...but glad-tidings to the strangers. salaamulah

I hope this is not ZU or his bride inshallah I will say this, what respectable brother, family would want his bride in particular improperly dressed to be shown like this on the internet where many eyes will see and DISCUSS HIS WIFE!!!!!! THiS IS DISRESPECTFUL DISHONOR and UNISLAMIC! SUBXANALLAH!!.....THIS IS WRONG FEAR ALLAH THOSE WHO SHOW OFF THEIR WIVE ON PUBLIC INTERNET....HAVE RESPECT FOR YOUR WIFE U DON’T WANT OTHER MEN TALKING ABOUT UR WIFE!!!!!!!!!!!. SAD WALAAHI!!!!!!! To the poster I know it aint u who posted the picture on the internet....who ever is involved putting pictures of sisters or giving consent don’t know better brother....they are jahillyah....min fadlak lets not be contributors to sin remove this picture....this is increasing sin for those in the picture everytime someone comments on it or thinks about it. I may sound weird and ppl dont see it as problem but ask the learned Muslims....they wouldnt approve this is wrong!!!!

Originally posted by Northerner: But should the men and women be sitting together? JOKE! [/QB] loooooool dude Mashalllah! ppl back home value education more walaahi I watched videos my pops and uncles recorded from back home and the conditions they learning in put me to shame and education is #1 priority .....If I had the power I would take passports of dumb somalis cats here in da states and give it to ppl back who want to learn and succeed.