Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Khalaf , if you think good Fiqi made headways in justifying adeer Cabdulle’s rule on a sound theological base then you are utterly confused! I for one failed to see any new points that are worthy of a response. There is a valid point which many people in this site before him made; the question of how and with what strategy to oppose this occupation is valid and is worth of exploring! But to camouflage his support for this entity with prophetic sayings that were put in place to keep order and peace under the Islamic rule, is just a mere camouflage and for you to repeatedly refer it as a solid point is quite a disappointment adeer! There is no point to refute adeer! But good Fiqi can still help us help him by sharing with us what definition of Muslim ruler he has! The Muslim ruler whose behalf prophet Muhammad urged the faithful to support him that is! Till then i dont think there is a productive debate to be had here adeer! There are many reasons for one to support this tfg. Religion is not one of them, i say! [/QB] ^^^^He maybe trying to justify the tfgs rule (which has backing of international community) but that is not the point from where I am coming from. I do not care how corrupt, their methods forget ethio troops but if iblis himself aids the tfg! U c adeer they are not the ones who are claiming deenul islam! I don’t believe in lesser of two evils and look the icu is not corrupt as the tfg! There shouldn’t be anything shady or unjust about those who call to islam! The Army of Allah like that of Salahudeen ibn Ayubi is my vision. Putting aside his justification for the tfg rule can u refute his points against the about these movements. And at this stage it would only bring a "greater evil" to miltary resist no?

Originally posted by Abu_Geeljire: I don't know how anyone can go day in and day out to listen to lectures from Abu Osama, who preaches jihad and that muslims should not associate with non muslims from "Birmingham, U.K".You'l not find any of these sheikhs on the streets giving dawa or teaching youth how to stay away from crime because they are busy declaring how the "uk" will become a khalifa and that they will take over the world. lol i watched him on youtube crazy dude and other UK cats (hizb cool cats)........uk would be great place for me......in the states u never c that or have good programs.....i dont watch american news wa bullshit.

Originally posted by Devilangle: naa they arent.. coz if they do THAN, that would make u 1 too.. Khalaf nothing personal eh? just couldnt stand all that [/QB] i got u woman power sticking up for your girlfriends nothing personal mama. :cool:

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Originally posted by Al Burcaawi: Ouch, a little below the belt dont you think khalafow? I'm proud of my run for 3 charities saxib and of watching a game or two I see your using the go and fight kidology! i am proud of u too homie, but thats exactly the point! we live in peace and should want that for somalia....a war against the ethios(backed by US jets) even if all of somalia was united will only bring destruction cause the "international community" is against the icu and they are weak to fight....another decade, maybe more of bloodsheed? somalis aboard can bring about change in somalia but politically.......dont blame warlords or ethios but us (the somalis). Red, now that you have cleared things up with regard to Riyaale, do you think they (TFG Gaal Raac) will condemn the bombings of towns and villages where innocents died? Its been a week now. [/QB] sxb dont use the deaths of innocent muslims to score a political point.

Cooooooooooooooooool.....good job for da award big ups!!!!!!!!!!!! Go sujis da smartest somalis!!!!! tanzania, kenya have good education systems better then da states........what my cousins were taught in 6th grade math back home we took in HS here. u can teach yourself hacking lol.....its not hard!!

Originally posted by Mujaahid: Red Sea: quote:Originally posted by Khalaf: quote: Originally posted by Al Burcaawi: ^^Please make sense um sure the sister is not making sense to u like the flag avator before u need your glasses sxb! Mr.Khalaf, I always had concerned of your stance.You seem to be influenced from somewhere,becuase every time you come in here with different take on issues such as this.Why can't you be a man and for once look things from your own personal perspective instead of relying what perhaps adeero might have told you or hear from folks like Taako man etc.. If you are sincere with your faith,then you oughta appose these evil doers for what they are not for who they are.They are the enemy of Allah,thus they should be the subject of your hatred.I don't hate them,because they are reer hebel,I hate them for what they have done with their hands,Fear Allah and don't side with the evil doers. this isn't about the blue flag and who carries it or who doesn't,its' about who believes and whose positions on this issues is correct, forget where I am from or where Northerner is from, look at the idea and merits of our argument.If you have no idea of what you are talking about then simply keep it shut.I believe that suppose to be an advice. Thanks for your concern n advice my brother, but my islamic up bringing has alreadly taught me right from wrong.....no politics will change that ya heard.........the arguments of da fake nationalists (I dont include u) hold no merit......... mida kale I find it personally hypocritical to be a warmonger from the comfort of abroad.......one minute saying let the people fight to death against the xabashi, american jets and next minute running marathons, watching football games, laughing, joking, living life in peace! Any government ba ka ficaan having a war which our divided ppl can not win now!

Little i know muminah! All i know were the interest driven icu leaders I wonder what the good sheikhs u listed would say against the points fiqq brought up (about the methods) and Sh. Abdullah Azzam believed! Taliban the world is not black n white sxb...this conflict in somalia and what is happening in falistine even they are not united and are killing each other.......this so called "ummah"..... :confused:

Originally posted by Al Burcaawi: ^^Please make sense um sure the sister is not making sense to u like the flag avator before u need your glasses sxb!

Originally posted by Taliban: You aren't wrong. Surely, you can't suggest Muslims like Sheikh Dahir Aweys, Sheikh Sharif Ahmed and hundreds thousands (if not millions) devout Somalis have more faith in clan than in Islam. no i do believe many somalis love Islam more by Allah i do we are one brotherhood one ummah. but to get back to the courts sxb they were clan based no? that makes them clannish. And their leaders were one subclan no? they chased out other warlords from different subclans but not theirs (white eyes) no? How come they did not diversify their leadership and have well known scholars from Puntland, Somaliland, Gedo regions or at least have their support :confused: .....

The signs killed it, wtf :confused:

Originally posted by Castro: I always thought the claim that some Somalis have more faith in clan than in Islam to be utterly absurd. Boy was I ever wrong. Castro if it makes u happy.....what Fiqq said in the 1st post on page 2 refute it anyone about these movements methods (which i said from day 1 mths ago but never could put it as nicely) and fadlik ppl leave cheap shots aside and talk about the subject.

Xiin did not the old man want to sit down and talk peace in the beginning and the icu went on a rampage to "jihad".....and how is he any different then arab rulers who kill their own family for power and work for uncle sam, should they the people rise and depose of their unislamic rulers by any means neccessary? they are beside the point however.... u strongly support the icu now refute the points made by Fiqq in the first post on this page about these movements!

^^I am in agreement u make great points....move this to islamic section and debate brother Nur or others......they are strong icu supporters

Patriotic Somali s all over the WORLD SUPPORT THEIR GOV'T ! PICS Allah Bless u Taako Man!!!........majority of somalis except icda with only reer Hiralle subclan of abtiyasha and maybe geedi's folks who hope odayga dies soon and their son becomes president hate the TFG to da core ....my cousin a strong supporter of hiralle everyone calls him young barre was called a kufar by a wadaad shop owner after an argument and kicked out of da shop ......but then u can acusse them of following blood ties somali wareer badana.........i like your enthasium brothers tho.

Sheikh Fiqq u say: 'lets follow the sunnah and stop listening to individuals that only call for civil strife without an alternative........aight but should we then listen to indivduals who call for secularism, a government made by the enemies of islam, ect is that following the sunnah? c'mon man the icu methods were wrong mos def they were dumb, but u also support a wrong....ha we want the republic back, but can we trust a government heavily influenced by the "international community"(neocons) will have the interest of poor africans.......history tells me no, and more importantly the Quran says never will they be statisfied with u until u disbelief and they hate for good to reach you....we saw that recently xamar a hell hole for 16 yrs no one gave a shit and finally some peace and here comes the help of the civilized world huh....lotta wrong here but........ ps: there is always an alternative, but u know whats up man....aduunkan wa xoog.

good points brother Fiqq but you are talking about the methods of these groups use, not jihad u are not down playing that are u man? islam orders muslims to bow the heads and obey only Allah Most High not fear man also rulers are to be resisted when they committ open kufar/oppression/tyranny........what a dilema we face!

^sax and may Allah bless u with your good intentions, jzk brother Taliban!

^^c'mon brah edit that its not cool, its only kaftan ppl need to chill and talk ball.....NBA got nuttin on college hoops tho Originally posted by Northerner: Just a Brother, Admin has been made aware of your offensive remarks after a petty disagreement. then you talk of knowing the deen etc. Get a grip man! [/QB] Originally posted by abuu nuune: As Northener has said, enough warning was given to Just-A-Brotha who is using foul language and name-calling. Just-A-Brotha , show respect to others, and respect the rules of the FORUM. Mods be fair sxbs why u only calling out the homie? Ask everyone to respect he aint the only one involved but yall only call him out not cool.

Xiin its that simple.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Bro Fiqi, Inshaa Allaah indeed. If you remove the time factor from the equation, you’d find a very established pattern of Allah’s Sunnah in the past human events. I am predicting that Sunnah will be repeated. That's all. Explain adeer.

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That is a projectile problem.....n the key word is identified location all that matters is how strong the outside force is and u hit.....but who knows there could be friendly fire coming from the air also....odayga is smart miltary tho and he dont fear death.

Originally posted by Brown: Originally posted by Sheikh Fiqqikhayre: [qb] To Mr. Brown! By avoiding my posts, you're avoiding my questions---> And by avoiding my questions, you're avoiding me---> And by avoiding me, you're avoiding the truth---> And by avoiding the truth, you're avoiding the reality---> And by avoiding reality, you're avoiding to consult your sanity---> And by avoiding to conult you sanity, you will become disillusioned and fond to utopias---> And by becoming disillusioned, you will become mad---> And becoming mad results to you being institutionalised! ........walaalhi u are funny man....get your own show Duke adeer abdiqasin is a politican he is playing ball, Aweys n Turki dont have that chance since they are on a "terrorist list".....the courts shouldve played better politics before the entire country was at their finger tips. But the plan is Allah.