Salaamu lah and welcome back Safi, I was waiting for your feedback but glad you posted it and decided to rejoin us, there has been much talk about your other article which I am sure you are aware of and inshallah in due time we hope you shed light on it. This current article, I disagree with u that Somalis lack compassion, now I have never been to Somalia or live in a large somali community such as Minnesota lakiin I believe Somalis are very compassionate people with lot hospitality. Somalia has been a country ravaged by civil war, we know that dreadful history, and without a government for 17 years in anarchic poverty stricken society they have done quite well by building schools, wells, clinics, even without a government Somalia I hear ranks tops in Africa in telecommunications. Question is should we let the evils define who we are as a people and as a nation? And as for compassion and brotherly love sure we can always do much better but I also know that brotherly love is there, u witness it for example when u are at the airport and a somali, a stranger sees you how their face changes like you’re their family.

Originally posted by Puuja: Where is your prove Puuja lets use common sense aiiiiiit?........ as munira said no guarantees lakiin a marriage be it romantic/shunkaansi, mutual/friendship agreement, or family intros but is established by following the shariah ie you should marry most for character/deen/kindness a cat from good family instead of cat with big digits in his bank ect namean will be better/successful then one contrary to it hence why da many divorces in da states, Europe, and cultures that copy their styles. Aaliyah hahahahaha I knew u would say that............of course choice and the persons happiness is numero uno............tho there are many ways people reach that and it seems your idea of courtship/love is limited just picking it up from ur views......dilemma is when your choice goes against your families wishes and with good reason yaa ukhti......what cha u know bout dat? KoolKat, depends on da individual namean.....some ppl believe in honoring their parents while some don’t give a peace

Originally posted by : Sophistafuncated Times have changed mate. ^^^^^This your idea of marriage miss drama queens? hahahaha good luck wit it........but on da real u complaining too much against the one person who is dishing useful info, it’s a reminder namean and the wife guide post may have irritated u lakiin it was a teasing namean, she knows her rights as a muslim woman and rights of her husband wa qoof diinta taaqno u cant beat dat and her main message is treat your husband like a king and he should treat u like a queen.....not your version of nigga ironing yo underwear and changing baby diapers all day shiiiiiish........um sure da brothers would agree wit me that the sister understands men, and the nature and differences between the sexes.........unlike da drama queens that are in competition with men and toooo much nac nacs against da brothers its refreshing to see a supportive type of woman......lucky sun of gun ba cambarro heeleey.......we need to clone ya mama.

At an engagement dinner of one of my boys a Pakistani, we had a discussion about marriage ect. He’s 24 she is 20, they are first cousin and its their choice with their parents blessings. My two other friends whom also are engaged but will marry after 2-3 years inshallah, one will marry his cousins daughter (he’s her uncle), and the other within the family also. Say whaaaaaaaat? My eedos have been trying to hook me up within the family its coool lakiin for da females not for me, i am man i hook my own flesh namean. be Muslim, Hindi, Christian Arab, or just secular family set-ups, recommendations, family involvement in the choice of marriage partner plays a big role in the Asian culture more then the somali culture. Somalis have a high divorce rate in Diaspora, I don’t know but that’s what here and also I hear women get the wrong end of the stick in marriages they get played namean, to the somali females who keep complaining and talking bout “bad marriages” “bad fathers”, I recommend when u marry it is in your best interest to follow your family’s shura which is the islamic Sunnah, ull be better off. Illustration: Case 1: Our sweet Aaliyah, a nice girl from a good family. Umm lets say she meets and kicks with Johnny Boy, he spits good game on her and she “falls for him” aiit. The family finds and knowing the background of Johnny and see that he aint compatible or worthy of their daughter’s marriage, he don’t pray his not of “good character” ect. The family advices against this union its called shura. I wonder what most females would do in this case after watching the hindi movies, and hollywood movies hmmmmm. Case 2: Good Aaliyah is at the age of marriage aiit, and many cats ask for her hand, but the family would want the best for their daughter, since she hasn’t brought anyone home they know a brother of good character, from a good family, who prays, ect and would be a match for their daughter therefore they introduce Aaliyah to good Ameen. It will be their choice, physical attraction, love ect ect but the family shura/blessing is there namean. Facts on marriage show Case 2 are better and longer lasting marriages in particular for the female and she is protected and will be in good hands.

Hawa Aden Mohamed was motivated to establish the Galkayo Education Centre for Peace and Development by her own experience, particularly the opportunity to go to school at 14. "If I had not got that chance, where would I be now?" she asks rhetorically. "That is why I am a believer in second chances," she tells IRIN in Galkayo town, 700km north of the Somali capital, Mogadishu. Starting as a teacher trainer at Lafole College, Mohamed rose to become a senior officer in the Somali education ministry before retiring to set up the centre in 1999. "We started with 120 girls after a survey showed that very few girls in Galkayo were going to school," she explained. "At the time, all schools were fee-based. Only families with money or those who were getting help from the diaspora were sending their children to school - and it was always the boys." source _____________________ There is a lot of governmental money available in particular from da states also to assist with amazing programs as this. Education is the key to developing the country and making the people self-sufficient in particular our women. May Allah bless Hawa and the many others like her.

^^^Its her first child, s/he will have many names u know. Its Sheikh Salah Bukhatir. umm zak, ahh dont mention it ukhti. inshallah khayr yaa muslimah and to ur family.

Whether we like it or not, what Meles Zenawi had done is save us poor Muslims from our Islamic brethren whose main occupation today would’ve amounted to nothing more than flogging s and women in the dirty streets of Somalia, i.e. if Zenawi didn’t come when he did. May Allah forgive u yaa Saafi. Its very unfrotunate.

^^my dua's walaalshiis....... pick from my list aiiiiiiit or? jokes Jawahir, Amal, Azhar, Asyah, Ayman, Amira, Hodan, Hamdi, Hibo, Warda, Shukri, Istaahil, Samira, Jamilah, Yasmin, Mulki, Nasradeen, Zubaidah, Fardowsa, Iman, Abdillah, Abbas, Bilal, Khalaf, Luqman, Arafat, Ramadan , Hamza, Nooradeen, Salihudeen, Shamsadin, Warsame, Ali-Noor, Burhan, Shirwac, Mahdi, Hudayfa, Sayyid, Imran, Farhan, Mujahid, Ilyas, Idris, Qasim, Yasin, Khalid, Tawfiq, Jabril, Uthman,

Geelow, should we take it as good thing? No, but do u think there will be any change, real change not kufar boots off muslim lands, but the establishment of islam unless the ummah changes? Have you heard of the saying it takes years to build trust, and only seconds to destroy it? It took years, decades even centuries to makes the current “state of the ummah”, well planned, and executed, how do you fix it unless they follow the correct path in its rebirth? And Yes to Allah Alone will come help, and ull tell me 1st thing is 1st garthay. If no one replied it doesn’t mean ppl don’t listen yaa akhi, its good lecture, but I don’t agree with more war inside Somalia but reconciliation, removal of ethio soldiers asap and help of Arabs ect ect. And I think what we all can do, is help the maskiin back home, somalia is dirt poor, build schools to educate the ppl that will bring greater success. Originally posted by Nur: This argument fallacy is called " Fa maa baalul quruunil uulaa" its a distraction tactic from the core issue of aqeedah. Ali Radiyallahu canhu said : "Know men by virtue of Xaqq ( What is right), do not seek to know Xaqq ( What is right) by virtue of men", moral of saying, humans are not a reliable source of what is right, seek wisdom instead. If the indifference shows anything, its the low level we as a nation have descended as to be indifferent of the plight of our brothers and sisters, the Prophet SAWS was reported saying. " A Muslim is a brother to a Muslim, he never commits injustice against him, gives him away to an enemy, not does he betray. Seek wisdom instead, a good saying. And my brother u answered my question. Another good wisdom is to cure a diseases ( ie somalia) one must apply the correct medication following the correct procedure. It took decades, centuries to separate the muslims, you Iraqi, you Syrian, u are Saudi, you are Lander, u are puntlander, and so on, even w/out Ethiopia, America ect they would be fighting factions and not a brotherhood. And yes Allah Alone Will come Help. Imagine, a young Somali girl being raped by an Ethiopian soldier, her feet are tied up by a fellow Somali who is making just a dollar, and the rest of us are indifferent because they have relative peace in their regions( Balaayo kaa maqan, dad kaley ku maqan tahay", can we blame the girl who is struggling against the rape for being unreasonable? This metaphor doesn’t fit the scenario, because the victim in this case has no choice. Here’s a better a metaphor, in class you are given a schedule, and to be successful in the class you must devise a plan ( a strategy) to conquer those tasks (battles). The ICU didn’t do that, not a good strategy inside the country (no alliances secured in Somalia) or in foreign affairs we both know yaa akhi. Although what happens is by Allah’s Will this somali saying comes to mind lax kasto meesheey is dhigtey ayaa lagu bireya, the ICU brought the enemy right into its bed-rooms. Brother, I did not take your words out of context, the context was Xukum of being an ally with invading kuffar. Many Muhammads and Khadija's will go to hell if their action is contrary to Islam, while many Johns and Mary will go to heaven if their deeds are aligned with Islam, actions speak louder than names and words. My brother we agree Muslim is he who believes in Allah Alone and the Last Day, and who obeys the commandments of Allah in the Quran and Fears Allah Much. Hell and Heaven is though, is by Allahs Will and istafgfrullah hadaan qalaad iri. The Johns and Marys, have to have Iman first, Iman and deeds. ps: I am not confused lol, and I know my brother. But I have talked to various ppl since I got interested in Somalia, even men who were part of the early crew of the brith of calaanka in Somalia, I am askin questions and lookin at the picture from different angles-islamic perspective in particular, lakiin we may put that to side and adiga noo muxaaradeey about this saga. salaamun

Originally posted by Nur: the best we can do for our loved ones is to advice them not to oppose Allahs deen by siding with the TFG........ okey, laakin do you think the Muslims in Somaliland, Puntland, everywhere in Somalia whom are indifferent, not even a protest against this TFG are opposing Allah’s Deen? What do you make of their indifference yaa Nur? And why do you think this is the case, the good fight is limited to section of Xamar, the same section that were the key power holders in the old South? Brother these men are mercenaries ( Soldiers of Fortune) at work, ( a person who would kills others for money), I hope that your words are a misprint, because its shocking, wallahi, I am shocked, because justifying cold blooded murder by a mercenary who leads enemy to his own homeland to kill his own people is a major crime, never did I think a devout Muslim to be sympathetic to such a crime, my advice is to make tawbah from that stateement. Allah SWT says, " Wa man yatawallahum minkum fa innahum minhum" He who sided with them ( enemies of Allah), is counted one of them, both in judgement and in hellfire in te day of judgement. My brother you took my statement out of context, I mentioned the world over, there is no Dar al-Islam. You have so called Muslim countries that bend over backwards “yes sir” to uncle sam, hand over the al-guraba to be tortured in jails, provide them air spaces to shock and awe other muslim states, you even have the scholars in the Glorious Masjid giving fatwa’s to US troops to protect the Saudi state in baitul Islam, you have Zionists riba based companies doing bidness right behind the Glorious Masjid, the list goes on. On the flip side you have war torn country of Somalia, names called Muhammad and Ahmed committed the worst crimes imaginable against other muslimeen, hundreds of thousands of refuges resulted and were welcomed and sheltered by the kufar, and we live here freely and ummm pay taxes which in turn fund their wars against muslim states does that mean we have sided with the enemies of Allah? Marka looking at the world, this TFG and umm these mercenaries whom probably are jahiliya and cause of their environment (poverty) wanted to feed themselves “aint as bad” bad though and is a result because there is no Dar-al-Islam. And Allah Knows Best to each they will take their deeds to Allah Most Great. And mos def Allah Most Great forgive me for any wrong I say in ignorance. With no breath in between, you contradict yourself again, by saying: "There are actions which make one kufar no doubt, deeds and faith go hand and hand in the Quran, however in the Quran Allah says that He forgives Whom He Wills and Punishes Whom He Wills, except for shirk" Allah can also forgive Pharoah, Jenkhis Khan, Attila the Hun, Hitler, and Bush. Thes men have one thing in common, they slaughtered millions of innocent people as superpowers. They are all dead facing their crime, Bush is waiting his day in Allah's court, I pray for his poor Zionist possessed soul, may Allah guide him to Islam, while he still has a chance. Pharoah, Khan, Hitler, Bush are all Kufars they associate partners with Allah. The Quran says that is the only Sin that Allah doesn’t forgive is Shirk to set up partners in worship, any other sins Allah pardons Whom He Wills and Punishes whom He Wills. Therefore I don’t see how I contradicted myself brother. What is more disturbing is that your writing shows that you are well versed on Tawheed, walaa and baraa, how can you then justify actions of the TFG by equating them with the the actions of other Arab states? Do we follow the Sunnah or the example of Arab states? Yes Muslims should follow the Sunnah scw that is waajiib. And I am not justifying anything, I am only highlighting what is going in the Muslim world, and TFG is only part of that picture. They are all entities forced upon the Muslims because there is no Dar al-Islam. Khalaf bro. I am not worried for the little mercennary boy hired to kill for foreign intersts in Somalia, I am really woried for you now, let us get the aqeedhah issues straight first before we talk about stark facts on the ground. My brother we all can improve, no one is prefect or safe and one of my favorite du’as I used to have as a signature is O Allah make me those who return to You often in repentance, the prophet scw was guaranteed Jannah but always sought forgiveness, and I too follow his scw example. Lakiin my brother don’t judge my aqeedah simply because I am raising hypothetically questions in politics, or bringing a different perspective on a topic. Just think of it like as investigator or historian asking tough questions, really has nothing to do with iman or islamic values. Its only a discussion yaa akhi. Sharia law, in its most perfect way, will not be served on a silver platter, its through toil and struggle, errors and mistakes, that this deen will be established, the chinese say: The Quran says: this day I have completed my favor upon you, and have chosen Islam as your deen. Islam has been completed, all that is needed is a jamacat. Allah instructed the prophet scw and his companion’s ra on a particular method, the Islamic method to establish deenul Islam in the Lands. Therefore to enforce shariah the law of Islam, it can only be done by following this method faithfully and fully, which is the Sunnah of scw. I wrote that in a giiiiiify, inshallah it makes sense. Salaamun.

Yaa Kashafa I hear Barre Hiralle was going to rule Kismaayo with shariah law. Saay What? Hold up he’s a warlord no? Like I said brothers, there is a method that must be followed and conditions that must be met, if not met then the whole point of Shariah is lost and it is no longer the blessed system of haaq. Originally posted by Geel_Jire12: Do you actually believe these things yourself or are you hypothetically speaking. In other words do you believe that Ethiopia was only after a political organisation and nothing to do with Islam. Also that the I.C.U were wrong in opposing them thus they created or contributed to a fitna. [/QB] Geel, the US opposes any entity which its not under its sphere of influence be they islamic or atheist that is nothing new been going down for long time. It supported the Afghan resistances to serve its interests, and turned against it when it threatened its interests. They certainly don’t want to see an independent Islamic State, or a pan-Somalia nationalists State, independent is key here that much is clear. However my point is, since we are discussing the Islamic methodology and nothing else, regardless of the situation, Islam always places strict guidelines to be followed. For example the ICU kicked out the warlords in Xamar after hundreds of deaths, okey we say those warlords deserved to be fought they were working for the CIA and committing fitnah. However after the fact, the ICU shouldve stayed in xamar, make the people whom were 17 yrs were living in mushrik society enter the fold of islam completely, make it a Madinah. But of course that was not the case because of the divisions in their ranks and their gun-ho policy, the move to Kismaayo a peaceful city. I hear a warlord is there, the fear of IGAD ect. But like I said xamar=the entire country. You tell me or the others here: what made the blood of Barre Hirralle and his milita men (as u know probably like our muslim brothers like Horn or Allamagan) what made their blood halaal if they had decided to fight the ICU? Because they and like many others in Somalia wouldn’t recognize the authority of Aweys and Co? Is this the Islamic Way? You tell me akhi.

Naden, can you explain how you understand the two Quranic verses? jzk

Yaa akhi its not good to make assumptions, I stopped at assumption numero uno, if my points aren’t clear only ask and I will be more then willing to clarify. A recap: 1. I have the most respect for the scholars, but on the issue of “shaki laan’ who is going to hellfire I found somewhat problematic. When we look at the Muslim World there are no countries or rulers practicing the concept of al walaa-al baraa, we even witnessed the scholars of Islam in Mecca making fatwa’s to allow US troops into the holy lands of Islam, and more the many evils that those who claimed to be Muslim have committed, I think a poor Somali youngster who enlisted with this TFG to make a little change aint dat bad. There are actions which make one kufar no doubt, deeds and faith go hand and hand in the Quran, however in the Quran Allah says that He forgives Whom He Wills and Punishes Whom He Wills, except for shirk, and as human beings we don’t know the Will of Allah, Hadiths narrates people being punished for small sins, others forgiven for large sins ect. To say “shaki laan” one will enter hellfire, what if that person built an orphanage house, or has children, family that makes du’a for them is their du’a stopped according to you? or Hadith that says anyone with an atoms weight of faith will not enter naar? ect And Allah Knows Best. 2. Somalia is a wounded nation, divided along clan lines, 17 years of war, oppression of the poor, accumulation of wealth and power by a few, In 2004 it was agreed and the TFG was appointed to be a transitional government. After all that has occurred since then, this TFG is actively supported by some inside Somalia (and backing of major power players including the arabs-da world order), actively opposed by some, but the majority of Somalis are only idle observers as their country is played by world powers and interest groups , and most inside Somalia one of the poorest countries in the world, in which many don’t have the means to even feed themselves, I believe what they want most is peace and not prolong warfare which is in their interest and the country as a whole. 3. Which brings me to this point: Shariah in Somalia. Shariah is the law of Allah and is obligatory on the Muslims to set up the laws of Allah. And like Jihad, Shariah has conditions and guidelines that must be followed strictly, It is not possible to establish this religion without following its particular method, anything contary to this method will only result in abuses and oppression and not be the blessings and haaq of the Islamic System, the same way anything contary to the rules and methods of jihad will not be considered a jihad. salaamu alaykum

Walaalshiis um not sure i understand your last question. But succedeed was not the best word to use in my first post to connect the verses, however i tried to explain in my last post and connected the meanings of the three verses and their message. Apart from the term used, did u understand message?

SH. Nur is there a reason u didnt cover the main points of my post mainly what is the islamic way of establishing shariah in society? Two my brother there is no big difference between Eritrea and Ethiopia other then politics, Eritrea also has a tyrant in place which commits gross human violations, including the oppression of Muslims. If it comes to the fact that Eritrea has no soldiers in Somalia and neither is an aggressor, well that is due to the world order its on the side of TFG backed Ethiopia, and it could as well be said that TFG backed Ethiopia in somalia is not fighting Islam or Muslims but after a political group hence why all areas of Somalia are “peaceful” and the Muslims, their masjids, their salat is not under threat nor are they under oppression can freely practice their deen. Do u think if the appointed TFG government, no matter how corrupt it is ect had been allowed to rule from the beginning, would what transpired in Somalia (bombings, killings of civilians, fitnah) taken place? Since the ICU have/had no awood to rule with shariah in Somalia considering today’s reality not only world but inside somalia, do u think as the saying goes they awakened the fitnah and have a fault in what went down in Somalia? We are strictly discussing the Islamic way...... not nationalistic interests, or social interests, ect but what is the islamic way of establishing shariah in society? 1. What is the Islamic methodology? Do you agree this is the only way that shariah can succeed is by following this methodology hence why the Quran instructed the the nabi scw and his companions ra only towards this road? It is possible to establish this religion without following its particular method and entering it fully and faithfully? And do u think the ICU follow it according to you? Over to you bro. JZK.

Originally posted by Caano Geel: Khalaf, Xiin, just as Geeljire said, up until the perfect incorruptible all knowing, seeing people with the perfect understanding and knowledge of everything come around, i'll take the fallible and malleable man made law - defined and enforced by the peoples its there to govern. My brother Caano, I think Xiin said it best that Shariah was practiced by imperfect men before and succeeded. Also we should all realize, in particular those who make shariah to be “stringent” that what is forbidden in Shariah is very small. The lawful and Unlawful peace

^^^^You too Brown, have good day man.

Originally posted by Caano Geel: quote:Originally posted by Ms Dhucdhuc & Dheylo: I always wonder why the Somalis in Italy dont care much for their deen. I also wouldnt want a country being run on Sharia law .. shall we add london to the soulless too Shariah is the Law of Allah. Caano Geel do u prefer the laws of England, (US systems ect) over Shariah? I am not talkin about talibans ect, but the idea of Shariah itself vs the idea of other systems?

Come on people work with me here. come on sxbyall and ladies lets charge sexism here. I witnessed dat thread, it was innocent no different then exchanges between for ie: ME iyo Red. Originally posted by Hunguri: I've clear posts b/w him and the little Khalaf. That's why I gave up posting any thing there!. [/QB] Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool @ little Khalaf. Ya Rabi! Do I come across as immature horta? I try really hard to be an odey, a Garaad, but am always called little boy shiiiiiiish. Hungri respect me adeer, u know I learned af somali mahmah from u big ups akhi. But u saw that man, I got nothing against the brother and u saw it namean, its unfair....many “new bies” are easily cut, the “oldies” get slack. But Admin will bring back Ebyan and Wisdom. *** Hungri Admin is the da one dat bans not the moderator.*** Xanthus ukhti, u may not realize it but you support “your people” just as much as she does. Many ppl here misunderstood Ebyan, all she said was she loves her family, the idea of her family, that her family will be there for her and help her. Its no secret sxbyall everyone is born that way, the wrong part is when ppl mis-use qabil to commit haraams or discriminate ppl. Taan labaad, I am proud of my sister. U know why? Cause I c chicks that club, that act like kufars, hang with da niggas, don’t value their family, their history, their country, dont respect their parents, or help their poor relatives back home namean, here u got a young girl that has her priorities straight who knows her famiy, her history, and helps her people, and cats here made big deal bout dat. Give me a break yall.

^^^Red it was not heated exchange or "hostilities" why cause they females they must of been hostile miya?. How is it any different then u and brother me eh, or Duke and Abwaan exchanges? I think because they were females it was seen as "immature squabbels" miya? Both of those sisters i respected, and i dont give respect due to biasnimo as u seem here to bringing Ebyan's support for the TFG into equation. Sxbow everyone knows gabartaas was articulate and a heavy weight in political section. they were both intelligent and nice girls, I am doing my part do yours duuqa, private admin. Edit: i got cha Red my fault in what u meant by her support for TFG.

Originally posted by Castro: quote:Originally posted by Khalaf: and it seems Ebyan was banned And not a moment too soon. Too bad WS let the immature and incoherent ramblings of a teenager get under her skin. In chess they call this losing a queen to a pawn. ninyahow wa ku sidey? Duuqa Castro it aint cool to hold “grudge” against inanta because u had exchanges aiit. taan labaad u ever hear raagu aafaaraha dumarka ma dax gaalaan? Ka da bax labaada gabdaho, haaadaad rageedi thay. Here's the thread NG, the post of Ebyan when she said people back home are living in 4 world conditions was deleted, I saw no personalization of the topic whatsoever, other then saying calacal in which many do here including myself to be fair. Compare there little chit chat to SOL's own Moderator here. I was called confused, gallouble, easily diseaved, and more so my wadaadnimo, and religion was brought in to the topic? hmmm, more personal dont u think? Admin seems to be ignorning me, and told me they are fair, i am just telling it how i see it, since i consider myself a good and fair judge. SOL doesnt belong to Admin but the nomads who contribute to it. I think the whole set up is biased namean, i find it funny that how the only two sisters exchanges in the politics section are seen as “immature squabbles”, but when the fellas do the same, going back and forth duo's its all good. Sexism in this case? Giving slack to "oldies" who use qabil names ect and easily cutting the "newbies" that slip one time? Fair? I think Not.

Originally posted by me: [QB] Where is Admin? are qabiil names allowed and people got banned for saying potato yeah man, he used qabil names right infront of their eyes, MMA the mod makes topic personal, and it seems Ebyan was banned and for what because she was articulate and puting forth her ideas? Way to go administration, dats justice for ya. bullshit walaalhi. Libaax dat is bogus be fair man,

^^^Geel u hear this before who u think it refers to tolaw? 'Abd Allah ibn Mas'ud said: "The Prophet said, 'Islam began as something strange, and it will revert to being strange as it was in the beginning, so good tidings for the strangers.' Someone asked, 'Who are the strangers?' He said, 'The ones who break away from their people (literally, 'tribes') for the sake of Islam.' "This Hadith was narrated by Ibn Majah on the authority of Anas and Abu Hurairah And Allah knows best. "So are these the signs of the last days?" According to Islamic sources yes, the afflictions that will befall the ummah. Here's a good lecture: Short Version part 2 Entire lecture Shaykh Anwar Al-Awlaki i believe is held our du'as to him, his family and the others.

Salaamu alaykum my sister I will try my best to explain inshallah and ask for Allahs Forgiveness before hand if I say anything wrong. The passage you quoted said: only the people of Muhammad scw are inside it-jannah. The people of Muhammad are not those who are his family, his clan, or his nation (the arabs) but any of mankind who believed in him scw, and followed the message which was given to him by Allah Most Great. Same way the people of Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus and all messengers of Allah Most Great peace be upon them all, were not those whom they shared a linage, race, or culture with but any of mankind who believed in and followed the message which was given to them by Allah Most Great. The Quran tells us that messengers were sent to their people, and their message from Adam scw to the last messenger Muhammad scw was one and the same: Worship Allaah, for you have no god besides Him, and follow me in the path of righteousness in order you will be saved and enter jannah. Their message was all the same: “O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other god but Him” (Quran 7:59) "O my People! I am to you a Warner, clear and open. "That ye should worship Allah, fear Him and obey me”: (071.003) Say; Truly I am a warner: no god is there but Allah, the One, Supreme, and Irresistible." (Quran 38:65) "Say: Verily, I am commanded to serve Allah, and follow with sincere devotion his deen." (Quran 39:11). Therefore since the beginning there have been always a community of believers who believed in One God, and to believe in God means one most submit, obey, and follow the message given to the messengers by God, their names, their nations, their ethnicities may have been different throughout history however-they are all community of believers-they are the same people since they believe in Allah by following the Messengers and The Message they were given, and thus jannah was made for them. Lets take a look at that verses: “Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.” 2:62. “Surely, those who believe (in the Oneness of Allaah, in His Messenger Muhammad and all that was revealed to him from Allaah), and those who are the Jews and the Sabians and the Christians, — whosoever believed in Allaah and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve” 5:69 These verses 2:62 and 5:69 say whosoever believes in Allah or believed in Allah (regardless be they Jews, Christians, Sabians, ect) and the Last Day, and works righteousness on them be glad-tidings. Belief in Allah will include as I have highlighted before, believing in, obeying, and following the Messengers and the Messages they were sent with, and their message has been one and the same. Since the last messenger to mankind was Muhammad scw, it is obligatory to follow him (Islam verse 3:85) one can not call themselves a believer unless they obey the messenger and the last message given by Allah Most Great. Inshallah I made sense. peace

Salaamu lah Sh. Nur, yeh- yeh I can read af Somali kabax! but inshallah lets stick with English. I hope u can make sense of my “thoughts” and questions, I in no way am in the realm of those men or you in terms of knowledge or experience, but as a sincere Muslim would like to make “sense” of this saga. As ive said before, I am primly interested in was this movement truly Islamic meaning was it in the footsteps of the nabi scw and his companions ra, anything else is deemed bidah. The social, moral, national, ect aspects of it be it good or not I am not interested in, just the islamic aspect which means the way of nabi scw. As you know Nur, the time we are living in today wa Qarnigi (century) Gaalda. With Allah Alone rests Power, but if we look around the world xoog iyo xuukaan is not in the hands of Muslims, nor do they have “awood” to rule with Islam. Even in the land of the Kaba we witnessed the Scholars of Islam in Mecca give fatwa for US troops to “protect” the rulers of the Kingdom. Thus it is fair to say world over, the Muslim societies including somalia are far from xuukuunka deenul Islam and divided into many camps. Which brings me to this point, u said: Maxkamadaha Islaamiga ah ee Somalia wexey sheegteen iney wax ku xukumaaan Quraanka iyo Sunnada, inta awooddooda tahay. Nur, is it possible to establish this deen without following a particular method, the method that Allah has laid down for His Prophet scw? Is it possible to create a muslim community without following this method, or to be called a “Muslim Group” unless it fully enters in its trueness and complies with this prophetic method, and bases its entire way on Islam in every aspect? If yes tell me how the courts have honored the Islamic Method? Going back to the scholars statement, I would say Allah Knows Best, because to reach such conclusions means there are two clear camps, one based solely on the correct aqeedah and method, the other not, I don’t think that is the case in Somalia but u may tell how that is considering the ICU alliance with Christian Eritrea, and amongst its comrades in battlefront those who burned human corpses among other things. The blood of the Muslims is unlawful except in three cases I am sure u know, and there is Hadith that says when two groups fight that are muslims, the killer and killed are both in hell. And it begs the question when the ICU was fighting warlords that wouldn’t comply with their authority what made their (the warlords and their followers) blood halaal in xamar or in kismaayo? Did the ICU in those cases follow the prophetic method in implementing the islamic way as was done in Mecca, then in setting up a islamic community like in Madinah or as witnessed due to their hasty actions opened the flood gates to a greater fitnah?