^^^^^many of us fasted also, may Allah accept our ramadan, the kutaba today was great way to end ramadan..we celebrate tomorrow inshallah. . Originally posted by Northerner: Khalaf, yes we are Eiding today and so is most of the Muslims around the world. I know sxb, makes me wonder tho is because Suadiya celebrated? Istagfrullah tho...but some brothas were saying today the masjids that celebrated eid today were salafiya and financed by "wahabiya"......but what matters is they saw the moon.....and saudi does extensive searching for moon....but we go with our local masjids since deen is easy. Eid mubarak.

^^Could u edit sister, ur post messed up the screen. On the topic, we have to realize the vast majority of Somalis are refugees and have poor relatives to feed back home. How many times have I answered the phone from a relative back home that I aint never heard of, eedo Allah eedo saan iyo saan baa ii heysata, I don’t have anything to feed the children, send me money....... most of us have parents and relatives here whose focus is with their poor relatives back home and to help them, so we do spend in the Way of Allah like no other community. I don’t believe Somalis have apathy or careless about other Somalis, but they have their own plates full with many problems! My question has always been what do these handouts (sending money back home) really accomplish? Send them $1,000 or $100 they will be back at square one with the same phone call. This is not working, although calculate the money we send as a community in Diaspora, its in the hundreds of millions. What somalia needs is not nuking, and you are excused dear brother I don’t believe for one sec u believe what u said, but somalia needs is creating of resources/jobs for ppl to make their own livelihood. Much of this fighting and dib is due to lack of resources and population exceeding the carrying capacity. Somalia needs to create employment for ppl, where the ppl can make there own money, individual handouts although in the millions from those in Diaspora will not go a long way in minimizing the problems in somalia, but creating resources, and the institutions which cater to developing and improving ppls livelihood would be the way to solve problems facing our homeland and educating the populace, India is a great example. To do this law and order has to be established, the respect and protection of property rights, in order to attract investors ect. Inshallah things will change for better, they always do, every beginning has an end.

^^^Isn't it eid for u guys @ UAE North? walaalhi this is crazy........here's what it looks like here arabs/somalis/african- americans will eid tommorow, the hindis/pakistanis/asians/and others will eid saturday....qilaf Eid is on Saturday for most in North America and Europe.... http://www.islamicity.com/articles/Articles.asp?ref=IC0710-3387 Eid ul-Fitr will be on Saturday, October 13, 2007 Eid ul-Fitr 1428 AH: The astronomical New Moon is on Thursday, October 11, 2007, at 5:00 Universal Time (8:00 am Makkah time). Sunset at Makkah on October 11 is 6:00 pm local time, while moonset at Makkah is at 5:59 pm local time (1 minute before sunset). This does not meet the new criteria adopted by FCNA and ECFR. On Friday, October 12, 2007, sunset at Makkah is 5:59 pm local time, while moonset is at 6:32 pm local time. Therefore, first day of Shawwal, i.e., Eid ul-Fitr is Saturday, October 13, insha'Allah.

^^DANNNNNNNNNNNNG....i just got many calls that its friday everywhere.......istagfrullah i was hoping it was saturday......man dannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eid Mubarak everyone Eida Eida Eida....Kool cat party like a rock star....its halal on eid jks....... salaamun.

^^^the website Fiqhflash isn't working......and the rest it takes u to serviceinislam website...which doesn't contain much other then signing up to recieve emails, is that it? I have btw......jazakuallahu khayr. And eid mubrarak to the ummah of Sayidna Muhammad scw.

^ wa ii daafiwayso so ma ahaan....aiiit.... i forget in a thay a mrs...wa igu ceeb....saan dhaqan noo ma ahaan...marka googaal baan diigaanaya, wa saas talado....tolka baan ku yeyraya. in aa thay qoof walaan oo sheeikqaan miskeenka ah ka faraxbaxsanwayey....ceebtada waa baanaka hadaba. thepoint, inantaas is not nice...jiinyo bey qaabta.

mainstream rappers who are muslims umm or maybe some just by name but nonetheless claim Islam: the Lox, Nas, Beanie Sigel, Mos Def, Swiss Beats, Freeway, Mobb Depp, Stypes P, T-Pain, Common, A Tribe Called Quest, N.O.R.E, Ghostface, Akon, Everlast, Napoleon Oulawz, Public Enemy............ Islam is a beautiful religion. But right now, with my career and my life, I can’t live the Sunni Muslim way. I refuse to be a hypocrite and cover my head on Friday, go pray, and then the rest of the week I’m out cursing and drinking–and performing. So right now I’m just comfortable with God. - Eve, female rapper and member of Ruff Ryders, in an interview My heart in the faith I don’t practice, I still pray along, forgive me for my actions, Cause I still spit gangsta, think Muslim, act Kafir, I can’t go on this way. - Beanie Sigel from ‘I can’t go on this way’ (Album: B. Coming) God’s reppin’ with muslums keep Islam safe What’s your fate yo? What do you believe what do you know? -Noreaga (N.O.R.E.) (with Capone) on the song ‘Live on Live Long’ Might act up, but I still can pass dawah I’m usin’ new ways to try to reach these better days Instead of tryin’ to take you under I just make you wonder I still fast, make salaat, and pay zakat I didn’t make Hajj yet, but that’s my next project Livin’ two lives, one of turn and one with true lies Keeping up hope knowing He’s answering to my du’as. - The Roots from the song ‘The Spark’ (Album: Things Fall Apart) and my boy Nepolean the illist from outlawz: May Allah guide them and all of us.

We know for example Islam ruled Spain for 700yrs, India for more then thousand years, Middle East, East Africa, after all these thousands of years one will still find churches, synagogues, and as in India majority of followers are hindu. Islamic history of respecting others is a glorious history. Islam ensures religious freedom for all people. “There should not be any compulsion in religion” (Al-Baqarah: 256). People should be free to practice their religion, but they should not force their religion on others. Similarly Islam allows freedom of expression, but people should not utter falsehood and lies. Islam teaches political freedom so that people choose their leaders by their own consent, and if the leaders are dishonest or incapable then people remove them from their office. Islam allows economic freedom. People should be free to earn and to own as much as they want but without indulging in fraud, deception, and cheating. source This is true, but if there was shariah law then all people muslims and non-muslim would have to abide by the islamic religious law as we abide by the states law here for example. Would this not be forcing a religious code on others who don't follow or believe in the doctrine of the said religion, thus defeats the meaning of freedom? Why or why not? And what is the position of non-muslim minorities in an Islamic state?

^^^I guess Horn doesn't want to elaborate. but what's yamaarugley Che?

Originally posted by LayZieGirl: quote:quote: Originally posted by Khalaf: Koolkat exactly, toronto is more islamic then kuwaa islamka sheegta somalia or so called suadiya...u name it. Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax... Ok ok, sorry...I'll be back when I finish laughing... **Does he even know where Toronto is?** Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax...Kix Kix Kix...Kax Kax Kax... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha@KK How did I miss this? loooooooool@ how did i miss this.! War ya Ilheey yaqaan! Labadaan gabdaho wa igu af barteen, wheres my bookooraat edeeb aan uu yeleh....after i am done with both of u........i promise ull be acting straight.

Originally posted by umu zakaria: khalaf Illaahay ka baq. Toronto is not more islamic than any other msulim country. How many gayz n lesbians, porn acters, drinkers, athiests, kufaar and hypocrites, killers, liers, ill mannered poeple who act openly with out xishood and who never repent to Allah sw? Somalia is a muslim nation, yes they kill 4 no raeson, they loot and rape sometimes but the number of pple oo tawxiidka haysto outnumber any bad apple there. morever, tawbadaa u furan, u know Allah is qafuuru Arraxiim. how many pple pray daily and do acts that please Allah every minute in somalia for centuries, u compare that with a whole nation oo gaalo ah with very very few immigrant muslims. Kuwo masiixga somalida isku sheegayaa, KK n MMA said it right. Jzks sister for ur thoughts, I know all ur saying and agree .....the point I was trying to make the muslims are far Islam ie somalis in somalia are killing each other, the muslims have love more for tribe/nation/race then Islam. Originally posted by Zenobia: ^True, but there's a difference between a christian and an apostate, hon. Just an example, fellow nomads Cara and Johnny B were "muslims" and now faithless athiests, would u support their condemenation to death Zenobia? an honest question. Khalaf, This idea that Islam is in the west that some Muslims run with needs to be put to rest. It's lame. If you want to live with gaalo and have them tolerate you, be blessed. However great the west is, it still has nothing on a place where the Name of Allah is invoked 5 times a day. The entire world is the kingdom of Allah, the entire earth there will be someone who invokes Allah Most High 5 times a day. there is saying about the companions ra they went to all corners of the world, mixed with many ppl and cultures, religions ect but always carried islam with them. In my opinion, westerners at least americans are generally nice ppl, the muslims in the west are in unique position, ppl will witness Islam from us, i had friends convert to Islam, and non-muslims convert all the time because of our presence here. It is my opinion the true Muslims are here, our jihad will be greater because we don't live in Muslim lands.

Just take a brief moment and ask yourself how will Soomaalis will be like if diinta Islaamka wada heysan lahayn? the question should be how would somalis be if they practiced diinta islaamka, maxey tahey islamnimoda somaliya ka jirta, daadkaan daadka diigooda xalaaleysta oo iska caabo like a koob shah. somalida mel loo raaco ma leh. Koolkat exactly, toronto is more islamic then kuwaa islamka sheegta somalia or so called suadiya...u name it.

u guys think its fun and "cool" having da christian cross and calling urself after old european names lol......war Alle ha nii cafiiyo

Originally posted by Kool_Kat: quote: Unfortunately that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future. He is damnnnnn RIGHT...It will NEVER happen... Why? You enjoy freedom to practice ur religion in Toronto, why not grant that same freedom u enjoy to others? If i was ruler i would allow ppl to freely practice their deen, build their worship places, and worship freely, islam is mercy. What i would be against is immoral stuff, like brothels, clubs, prosutites, pron ect ect And Allah knows best.

Allaha u naxariisto dhaamantood iyo inti muslim ahh....what Allah wills will happen, we ask Allah to bring peace to our homeland and to unite the hearts of the muslims and deliver them from this fitnah. Ameen Puntland is home to many clans including the kismaayo subclans, but no revenage killings and hurting of innocent ppl because of clan, as often done in somali context. Big ups to the ppl of Puntland.

Koolkat aniga nin baan ahey, one finger and ur out mama marka no duel......but do me favor....beat up that layzie girl for me? Could u? She the one here in need of good whopping... Ill repay u great deal. um out salamun.

May Allah give her jannah. samir iyo iman sister. salaamun

^^^^We discuss issues like this all the time whats wrong with that?, matter fact i posted the topic, after a disagreement with brother the other day,was wearing erning, and we talked about it, i gave arguments above (which was my position), and his counterargument. I didn't make a fatwa here, but interpretations of scholors based on daleel. Mida kale, there is lots of misinfo online, there is no excuse for muslim not to know their deen, but ur right we should do our best when we discuss these sort of topics. Caano geel, sxb it is not my interpreation but interpretaion of many of the ulema, and this daleel is stronger as long as ppl stay within bounds of islam ie not be alone in room ect. Muminah sister, ur right loose clothing which doesn't show shape of ur body, my sisters wear pants and long shirts that cover the back ect which is Islamic. And Allah knows best. salaamun

^^^jazkuallah khayr sister, and may Allah accept ur fasting as well and all the mumineen. salaams

Originally posted by Hunguri: Now, the questio remains. Where are the brothers of these girls who were the pillers that they were accounting on ?????? [/QB] tsk tsk tsk.....brah may these so called brothers are liberal? You can find (thinking wise) many of them on this very thread. Koolkat ina adeer cadi ma thid........waxan ku ley yahey....miskeen ya hey mel iska fadiiso....naf aa daad ku diishiid maba heeysiid.

^^^Ameen ya Rabi^

Find part 2 ya-self aiit. Powerful du'a Ameeeeeeeen ya Rabi. salaamun

Questions: 1. Can brother braid his hair?. 2. Can brother wear earning? 3. Can Muslims wear wedding rings? 4. Can women wear pants? 5. Can Muslim have gay friend? 6. Can we shake hands with opposite sex? 7. Is my fast accepted if I don’t pray? 8. Is my fast accepted if I don’t wear hijab? 9. Is it okey to chew gum and still pray? 10. Is it permissible to talk to opposite sex u have no intention of marrying? Arguments for 1-4: Wearing earrings, wedding rings, jeans/braiding hair ect is a custom that developed and is generally prevalent among non-Muslim and imitating non-Muslims is not permissible. Counterargument: Many men wear earrings, wedding rings as a normal thing in current culture. therefore how can it be imitating women. And we also wear jeans, shirts, suits, baseball caps, ect ect and these are all prevalent amongst non-Muslims and part of their culture. So your point is? #5. No a muslim shouldn't have gay friend. yikes :eek: #6. Umm i have difficultly with this one, i have no intentions for example on my boss who is a woman and as old as my moms, just professional hand shakes as is important custom in this culture. Doesn't it do more harm then good, by refusing hand shake with someone who smiled and sticks their hand at u at job interview for example? #7/8. Up in the air. #9. Don't chew gum while praying, or have food in ur mouth. Wash with water, spit it out and make ur intentions directly to Allah. I wonder how many muslims prayers are correct..inshallah correct it. #10. I have heard sheikhs say this, u can't talk to opposite sex, u can only talk and mix if u have intentions of marrying them. but we friends, school mates, work with opposite sex, and keep within bounderies of islam just fine, marka i don't see this arguemtnt. Allah knows best. Any more halal or harams u heard, floor is urs. salaamun

some men do use and abuse their wives all in the name of religion fo sure brah...they can use that hadith u stated that i forbid u to leave the house, or see your walideen. Allah knows best about the hadith, considering the position of parents in Islam, take care of them in old age ect.

^^^^^Truely in the rememberance of Allah do hearts find rest. I've always wondered why some find it easy to be religious and practice Islam, while others find it difficult? Any theories?