jibril, u said that somali gurls r dumb, but u kept saying "don't start insulting cuz i only asked u guys a question". are u saying u r not insulting us when u call us "dumb" alot of ppl have answered u, but u r not satisfied. how can some1 answer u if everytime some1 answers u, u end up making fun of them or just starting the same argument. i don't get u. mohamed jamma, it is true ppl from differnet regions behave different, but y r u so obsesed with somaliland? lol. peace.

First of all, there is a saying "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". To me that is really something, I never have that racial though in my head. I grew up in country known as "The mixed Pot" (USA). Ever one whom lives here is most likely to have a mix up with a diffrent color. Basically i'm saying i never have the desire to control my heart, If i ever fall in love who knows my heart may even swing me to chinese women ot even a Aborginians or what ever. Although nteraciall dating is not an easy thing to do, but remmeber the other person is human just like you are, you may have a culture diffrences but still the other person has the abilty to understand. Personally, I've dated Spanish, White, Somali, Laos and even Afro-American. I'm really glad to have an experianced as far as interaciall is concern.

I am the romeo of Somali girls and no one makes then say "I LOVE YOU" to guy they've just met than me. I have been out with many Somali girls and what makes me sick is not me being played or disrepected by a Somali girl, but it is seeing brothers getting frustrated over the girls. Girls want them but they don't wonna show it and that leads them(girls) becoming GUUMEYSYAAL, lol. I did dated and even got many of the girls calling the perfect hubby,(not yet ready for it though) and i never felt insecure or even left out. So Girls, why refuse to talk to guys easily coz you know atlast you will end up with them. To the last sister, Hey Somali guys are so respectable and they do treat girls like queens, it only you girls who can't behave like you are treated. Realise how good Somali men treat you now or even treated for many centuries. The problems are being exagerated by the so-called feminine activists wannabe mis-educated ladies, leading the good girls to blind ambitions. I prefer those wannabe feminine activists to turn to themselves and get themselves husbands who are women lol. [This message has been edited by MrJibriiL (edited 02-10-2002).]

sister: that is not correct!! personally like those who before me, i dont care if they socialize non somalis who will leave them if they tell them they are married or not, or is that is true because i know the the truth about it .. it is call low self steem .. however what really amases me how ironic it is .. you can tell somali male you are married or have some body else , and at the same time you can tell in english or arabic e.tc.. to some body you just met you are married and leave you alone.. com on sis.. please.. let us add the insult into injury.. when ever i come across a somali lady who are carrying a bag or carrying som children i ask her a help and even if i ask her some thing i will first ask if she married of dating.. this problem really has nothing to do with girls fearing some thing .. it is some thing called a poor low self steem.. how ever, ALL SOMALI FEMALES ARE NOT LIKE THAT.. THIS ALSO APPLIES TO MALES WHO THINK THERE IS PASTURE ON THE OTHER SIDE.. THIS KIND OF BAHAVOUR IS CALLE A LOW POOR SELF STEEM.. IT IS PYSCHOLOGICAL PROBLEM.. IT CAN BE CURED AND IT AFFLICTS BOTH MALE AND FEMALE ALIKE..

Mr.Jibriil, When I smile or be nice to somali guy what do I get in return? the guy getting all flattered and standing on my foot steps or calling every day.He doesnt check whether the girl is married, engaged or dating someone else, not if she is interested or not. You guys are the reason we dont socialise much with you. So instead of blaming girls, GET YOUR ACTS TOGETHER. LF, I couldnt have said better.

loooooooooooool War sxb maxamadow, waan yara qanjiirin lahaa naagtaas edebta daran markaasaan hadana laad ku rafici lahaa lool Hey, Guys you see thats what i wa talking about before, you girls smile for non-somalis but no us, shame on you

Calan suubanoow samada u eekow Maalintii la suray saan udoonayoo Samo waarnayoo sucdi baan nahee Samo waarnayoo sucdi baan nahee Waa inaan u sara kacnaa salaan la hortagnaa markii la saarayo Waa inaan u sara kacnaa salaan la hortagnaa markii la saarayo Usacab tumaay! Usacab tumaay! Sideynu u dhanahay soomaliyey wadajir. It makes me feel nostalgic

Calan suubanoow samada u eekow Maalintii la suray saan udoonayoo Samo waarnayoo sucdi baan nahee Samo waarnayoo sucdi baan nahee Waa inaan u sara kacnaa salaan la hortagnaa markii la saarayo Waa inaan u sara kacnaa salaan la hortagnaa markii la saarayo Usacab tumaay! Usacab tumaay! Sideynu u dhanahay soomaliyey wadajir. It makes me feel nostalgic

Calan suubanoow samada u eekow Maalintii la suray saan udoonayoo Samo waarnayoo sucdi baan nahee Samo waarnayoo sucdi baan nahee Waa inaan u sara kacnaa salaan la hortagnaa markii la saarayo Waa inaan u sara kacnaa salaan la hortagnaa markii la saarayo Usacab tumaay! Usacab tumaay! Sideynu u dhanahay soomaliyey wadajir. It makes me feel nostalgic

HI EVERY 1 To me it doesn't really matter who u date as long as the person ur dating is muslim and genuine, although i find somali men less attractive, less talkative, (talk about fashion bo...........y they r out of date) Iam not saying all somali M r like that No offence that is my opinion 1 luv

jibriil: ilaa iyo intii somali jirtey waa laysku watey dhibaatooyin badan. iyaga wax noo dhaamaa ma jirto. si kasta haw dabac qalafsanaadeen . laakiin mid kale yaa jirta, ma joojin karo iyaga ama kuma qasbi karo inay bedelaan daba galka qariban ee shisheeyaha ee ay leeyihiin.. nin caraba ah oo cadan ka ahaa qaadi yaa yidhi beri .. waan waayey ama inyar baan arkaa nin soomaliyeed oo u xiisoonaya shisheeye.. laakiin adba waadiga yidhi naag shisheeye yaan qabanayaa.. gabdheheenu marka aad u samafasho yaad arkaysaa qaarkood inay si kale u qaataan.. kasoo qaad gabadh aad waxkasta siisay oo si kasta u soo dhoweysey yaa hadana modaysa inaad doqon tahay oo ay doqonimo kaa tahay inaad si fiican u soo dhoweysey.. maanta bas ayaan soo raacay gabadh soomaliyeed yaa saarayd baska .. sidii ay u qosleysey niman aanay hore u aqoon oo shisheeyey ah yaa aad iiga yaabiyey.. nimankii wayka degeen baska laakiin inamo yaa soo kkoray baskii gabadhii bay is yihdi mid la hadal.. what^^ yaa loogu jawaabey iyadoo huruuf iyo isjejebis loogu jawaabay.. adigaa yaan ku xusuustay oo maanta oo dhan waan qoslaayey .. yaa jibriil tan tusa ayaan is idhi hadaaa waa degdegayaa eed dib yaan sheeko kuugu soo dirayaa ..bye mj

Starlight, Beneath the faces he displays Buried is a brains to be avoided He lust for more but never loves To hold a girl close unless he beds A girl's heart is easily tempted To fall for actor and pretender That later leave her ever broken Be strong and avoid the temptations The winking man is just an illusion All he has in mind is penetration He wants to use your inner thighs Hold back your goods and treasures For the one who will love you forever You are worth more than you are selling Now breath deeper and look around you He is here and he is there he is near The man himself of your dreams is here xxxCry no more the tearsXX xxcrave no more for loveXX

War ninyahow maxamed-Jaamacow, sxb, hablahani waxey un iska jeclaadeen cayda ee wax murti ah marnaba kuma hayaan goobta.Swaxili ayaa waxey yiraahdaan "Aibu ya maiti ajuaye ni mwoshi" oo u dhiganta " ceybta meydka ninkii dhaqaa ogaada" Marka inaga unbaa ogaan kareynaa sida ay dumarkayaga u dhibaato badan yihiin, laakiin iyaga marnaba isma oga, oo waxey ismoodaan in ay noo fududeeyeen shukaansigooda. Run ahaantii Dumarka Soomaaliyeed waxey ka wanaagsan yihiin kuwo badan, marka sidaas darteen ayaa waxey maramarsiiyo ka dhigtaan wanaagaas yari ee ka sareysiiyey Dumarka kale. Mar marka qaarkood waxaa ku qabaneysa dib dambe haba ula hadlin balse hanada iyaga un baa nagu wanaagsan, inkasto ay wanaagsanaan laheyd in ay dabciyaan taakada ay nagu hayaan maalmaha shukaansiga. Waan la wada soconaa oo waa laisku baahan yahay, lamana kala maarmi karayo sinaba. Hablahagow, bal naga joojigiya dhibka aad nagu heysaan lol For those of you who cannot read the Somali, our brother Libaax sanka taabte will do the translation for his kindness. lol

lady faduma let me quote you please: "Also, Mohamed Jamac... It would be really nice if you don't turn this into Somaliland women Vs. Somaliwayne...it's not where you from it's how you 'conduct' yourself... as they say Lax walba kobtaye is dhigtaa lagu gawracaa!! we have the Good,the bad and EASY in every group of plp regardless of their Locations.. so plz stick with topic!!" really ??? i did not turn or say thinks are somaliland vs somali -- weyn .. what do you really meant somaliweyn.. well let me count you about different nature.. as somali male lived somaliland and somalia and travalled alot in the diasapora , I met a wide ranga of somali girls and women and i have a clear picture of their pyschological respond of males and how they respond differently, or conduct them selves with respect to where they came from.. more over, this topic is not probaganda politics, or political discussion .. this is social manners and behaviour.. jabuuti somalis behave differently than other somalis , itobiyan somalis behave differentlt than other somalis.. kenyan somalis behave differently than other somalis. like wise somaliland women behave differently than other somalis in terms of shukansi and how they conduct thier affairs.. no one was talking about somaliweyn thing.. i dont know what you mean that but i can guess, however, i dont want to ponder about that... poeple who live in a same village behave differently or dispaly different attitudes always with respect to other pple who live the other village.. even in regions, poeple have so called afguri and play different dances, and customs. we are men and we know our target and how to behave in certain manners as the women respond.. bye the way this proverb is wrong how you said it .. it seems you read from a wrong translation.. it is: LAX WALBA SHILALKAY IS DHIGTO AA LAGU QALAA.. . what do you mean "" conduct" ..it seems that is what jibriil is talking .. we dont have to put " a kob" si laysu qallo ..this is mind set the jibriil is talking .. SHAAALLOOW GIRLS, SHALLLOOOOW..... GET IT, NOT SMARTNESS........ 1. we are not shop. 2. this is dump.. this is not A PROXY war. 3. this a boy trying to seduce a girl... maaha lax kob lagu qalayo.. dabci aa laga hadlayaaa

Some Somalis have nuclear weapons? really?? It is a bit too expensive 4 them, isn't it?.....actually now that I think about it, since the collapse of the Soviet Union, nuclear weapons hav been sold cheaply....so they might hav them after all! u never kno.

People, this is getting really tedious. The boy obviously doesn't want to hear wat u hav to say.....so just leave him be. U kno wat they say "each to his own".....in this case I agree....If he doesn't like Somali girls THAT IS FINE, if he wants to date other nationalities.....THAT IS FINE also. It is a free world!

Hey guys, you know what? I aint the bad too. LF, resorted to desperate measures in describing the kind of level i am at. The truth it is, my main aim of bringing up this debate was solely based on creating a heated discussion in somaliaonline.com I am not that dump to abuse all Somali women(i only critisized) and go back to my words and read'em well enough. You wont find anything that can be considered bad mouthing, the words i have used a commonly used in day to day communications. I didn't said Somali women are "H*es" or "Bi*ches" and many other un-pleasant words. I have refrained from all those words coz of the respect i have for my Somali females lol. So Miss LadyFatima and all others girls, it is your turn to tell us (men) what needs to change. No hard feelings girls, we in the stage where we can all take critisims and jokes.

Everyone has their own definition of what true love is....there is no wrong or right answer to this question...Well in my world true love is when you have Happiness Laughter Enjoyment Trust Honesty Being there for one another through thick and thin, When your heart skip’s a beat every time you see that person, Butterflies in you stomach I could go on and on but I don’t want to bore you with my list. Salaamz

Well my friends describe me as Sweet, Talkative and Caring.

Originally posted by queens: salaama lady fatima i want 2 thank u 4 ur smart comments gir............l ur the best. Mr Jabril does the word (DOOQ) means anything to u if a girl doesn't want to go out with u it's probably ur not her type the sooner u get that into ur tiny brain the better, have u ever wondered y Somali girls are rejecting u ? i tell u y ur arrogant and attention seeker who has no respect whatsoever to any 1 including ur own family by saying all somali W ur stupid& dumb, it seems to me u were never taught to respect women/girls.so my dear bro until u change ur attitude towards SW u will never rest in peace, and one more thing learn how to play the shukaansi game,no hard feeling right; i do respect u though regardless of all the stupid things u said about us. nabad galyo iyo nooli kulan Some ol' shyt, blah blah blha, you ought to grow up girl and come up with better lines

Who's got them, who might hav them, who's had them and who could have them.... There r five declared nuclear weapons states in the world: The United States, Russia, Britain, France and China. Two more states, India and Pakistan have recently developed and tested nuclear weapons. Israel is described as a threshold state: although they have never admitted it, it is generally accepted that they have or r very close to having nuclear weapons. South Africa has now admitted that it did have nuclear weapons but has now scrapped them. Three other states, the Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan, formerly parts of the Soviet Union, had nuclear weapons but have now either scrapped them or sent them back to Russia. Iraq, Iran and North Korea have had, and may still have nuclear weapons construction programmes. Belgium, Germany, Greece, Holland, Italy and Turkey as well as Britain, as members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO), have US nuclear weapons based on their soil. On top of all this, nuclear weapons can in practice be found almost anywhere in international waters, as they r installed in surface warships and submarines. Source: Campaign for Nuclear Disarment (CND) www.cnduk.org [This message has been edited by BARWAAQO (edited 02-08-2002).]

salaama lady fatima i want 2 thank u 4 ur smart comments gir............l ur the best. Mr Jabril does the word (DOOQ) means anything to u if a girl doesn't want to go out with u it's probably ur not her type the sooner u get that into ur tiny brain the better, have u ever wondered y Somali girls are rejecting u ? i tell u y ur arrogant and attention seeker who has no respect whatsoever to any 1 including ur own family by saying all somali W ur stupid& dumb, it seems to me u were never taught to respect women/girls.so my dear bro until u change ur attitude towards SW u will never rest in peace, and one more thing learn how to play the shukaansi game,no hard feeling right; i do respect u though regardless of all the stupid things u said about us. nabad galyo iyo nooli kulan

Salaam Silent_Guy, Walaalo I agree wit u 100%. Homes should be peaceful, stress-free and respectful places where the family can take respite from the outside world. I haven't seen much of this in Somali homes...I think they must be more stressfull and frustrating than anything u encounter outside (my home included). There's too much arguing, shouting, disrespect and total disregard for other ppl's feelings. This of course has an impact on our society. Its not, however, the only factor. There are other factors (that I don't wish to go into now) which also play a role. As 4 weeping....I don't think it makes a difference whether u cry or not. Each person has a different way of handling their emotions. It is easier 4 some to cry than others.....but I don't think it reflects on their personality either way.

I didn't mean to talk about weeping for the lost ones!! but I said that was just an example. I might n't have put the topic in an understandable way. I meant to say WE SOMALIS SEEM TO BE LESS SENTIMENTAL and WHEN WE HAVE TO SHOW OUR FEELINGS WE DON'T. As far as I understood the woman who reffers her husband as the father of her kids SHE DOESN'T AT ALL WANT PEOPLE HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT SHE LOVES HER HUSBAND OR CARES ABOUT HIM. I'm talking about a typical Somali family back home. You may see a somali man who has been away of somalia for about 20 years and never thinks of going back to see his parents though he still helps them financially, so this is an example of how less sentimental we are!. A somali couple who haven't seen each other for a decade may not even shake hands at their first meeting let alone hugging each other!!! this shows how we hide our feelings when we have to show them. Honesista!! when we don't show our kids how much we love them we shouldn't expect them be good kids. I assure you if all the somali houses were well disciplined and the parents cared about each other and their kids WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD MANY YOUNGESTERS WITH GUNS IN SOMALIA.

well well well...what do we have here?..i guess it's about time nas fans woke up and realized that jigga had tha crown since biggie and now their new favorite rapper nas is trying too hard to snatch tha crown away from jigga... listen s.u.n.s.e.t u lucky me and you go way back dawg, so u know ama take easy on you man nah mean... aight this nas and jigga thing is kinda out of control nah mean...I can't believe u said jigga been in da game for 5 years...listen dawg jigga been in da game since '87 when he use to go by da name of jaz instead of jay-z...one more thing jigga had records comin' out since 91 aight...com'on what has nas done for hip hop lately?...what?...nas only dropped two hot albums and that was (illmatic, it was written) after that god knows how da phuck he fell off hard...i still listen to nas but is just everytime time he drops an album he is just gonna dissapear for three years and come back with some weak shit...let me tell y'all this if it wasn't for jigga nas wouldn't sell stillmatic...it's about time nas woke up and realized that jigga had da crown since biggie...i give nas credit for trying hard to go against da best rapper there ever was...jigga is da best rapper ask biggie...about jigga fakin' dats a pure joke so come up with some better stories...about that ether joint i heard that and nas took it to da heart and startin' cursin' and callin' out jigga's name for a boxing match....i mean com'on how a fake thug like him gonna destroy jigga?... look at how he took it to da heart...about jigga usin' nas beat?...jigga was showin' him how to flow on dat hot beat instead mumblin' and yellin' all over da track... oh yeah where was nas three months ago?...how come none of y'all mentioned him three month's ago?...i guess he was drinkin' himself to death while jigga was sellin' records on nas's hood...oh yeah look at r-kelly how many times did he did a track with nas and how many times he did one with jigga?....he knows jigga would outsold that fake thug......about jigga stealin' rhymes from biggie thats a pure joke...how many times did nas said pac's words(every thug shares a tear) and nobody went after him...and nas is trying too hard to hate on jigga and it all started when nas used weak memphis bleak to get at jigga but da king wouldn't let him...as a matter of fact go to new york and u will find out jigga is da king of new york since biggie.... oh yeah about that ja rule song(can I get a...) how could u say that?..what happen was ja rule came in da studio with that beat and he wanted jigga to feature in it(how come not nas?..think again)and jigga went in and destroyed da beat with hot flames so ja couldn't flow better on dat track so he ended up givin' it to jigga... remember why jadakiss got mad at jigga... when r-kelly did that fiesta remix with jadakiss and the song wouldn't sell... but instead he called jigga to do a new remix and guess what again da king of new york came in and layed nuthin' but hot flames on da beat... sometimes u gotta understand why rappers are mad at each other's... yo see y'all three years from now when nas drops another album... "jigga been rockin' y'all for six straight summers damn where's da luv?"(blueprint baby) ------------------ "Life is a test.. u either pass or fail" [This message has been edited by El~nino (edited 02-12-2002).]