Name one country not influenced by religion

Hey I wouldn't like to live in Italy for sure and it is not an islamic country. There is more corruption there than any country in Europe. If you do a little research on what Islam teaches instead of blaming all on Islam I am sure you would strive hard for a real Islamic state. Tell me do you blame on Christianity for all the Italian corruption? Do you blame on the international successfull countries for the illegal war by the Americans on Iraq? Do you blame Islam on the failures of other non muslim countries?

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Correct me if I am wrong 1. In your opinion we should praise and support Afwerki as long as he is helping the ICU including some former warlords and never condemn his crimes against Eritrean Muslims hey they are not ICU members hence don't apply the term muslim to them. 2. The TFG are not our brother because they don't want to implement the Saudi Sharia Law but Afwerki does? Therefore we will continue to fight from civilian places (against their will) and run leaving innocent women and children to be killed and raped by Ethiopians so we can call and scream the Ethiopians are raping our women. Why run why not stay and defend the innocent? You can't pick and choose the polical parallels from our Prophet sawas either you follow all including negotiations (which was the Prophet's sawas first choice) or you don't.

Like it or not against all odds Iran has shown the world they can thrive with the American sanctions. Why does it bother you so much about a muslim country's success. Why are you so angry about it? Is it because your theory is proven wrong by these successfull Ilamic countries?

peacenow you should get familiarized by the IMF and subsidies and international law and see how it is run? The same people who pretend to help the Africans are the ones vetoing all their chances of success.

Dude get out a little bit more instead of being glued to the "televisione". Iran has a democratically elected government (unlike bush). Women are part of the parliament (decision making). Unlike popular believe Ahmadinajad has the only parliament in islamic countries where the minority Jews are represented. It is the only muslim country who openly condems Zionism (bear in mind Zionism is different from Jews faith). That is more than the Italian mafia government and the amazing thing is THEY ARE MUSLIMS.

Iran is an almost successfull Islamic State.

Bunch of Saudi trained Sheikhs full of contradictions..... "Yuhuuda iyo Nasaarada Awliya ha ka dhiganinna oo ha jeclanina oo ha soo dhawaysanina oo ha ku raacina waxay wataan maxaa yeelay iyaga ayaa isu awliya ah.....kiina yeeli waaya ayaga ayuu ka tirsan yahay marna suurto gal ma aha in aad Islaam ahaato gaalna aad mabdaisa ku racdo aadna ku jeclaato wa wax aan dhici karin" Where are they? Who did they ask for help? Aren't they following the rules of their host countries? According to them they are the ones who took yuhuudda and nasara as awliya. People used to question even the Prophet sawas all the time I wonder why somalis never question these self righteous sheikhs about their own contradictions? Did anyone ever asked where these sheikhs income is coming from since most of them don't work at all such as the big sheikh in this video? Since they are the leaders of the community then shouldn't the community have the right to know where their paycheques is coming from? Talk about blind followers

From religious point of view she can just say I don't like this guy anymore and get her divorce

The sharia in place in Saudi Arabia has nothing to do with Islam. It was invented by two families to rule over the arabs. Unfortunately they brainwashed few somalis by teaching them their version of Islam and now these are calling for sharia law in Somalia and causing more violence. Are we ready for sharia? No Somalia is not ready for sharia cause the Saudi trained "sheikhs" will not allow them to follow the sharia unless it is their version.

Colonalization is better than anarchy I say. What liberation is there if the liberator is a character such as Indhacadde :confused:

You are right once I said Salam Alaykum to a sikh man cause I really thought he was wearing cimamad

Why are you talking to yourself General Holiday's getting to ya?

Why you suspect she is not muslim?

King Koya If Mary (peace be upon her) is the mother of God then who is the creator and who is the created? Wouldn't Mary (peace be upon her)be the one who will reward and punish her son?

Tell me when the Prophet SAWAS ever praise any muslim oppressor? First you praised Afwerki and second you said you had no clue of his atrocities and third you are saying forget about the Eritrean muslims as long as he is helping the ICU to continue fighting and ordering them never to sit and talk to their brothers the TFG. This is not a complex problems as you put it and there is no need to have a debate about it it is all out in the open. I like to talk straight without using the latest thesaurus. Why the ICU refuses to talk to their brothers?

Has any of the ICU member ever condemn this man? How can anyone believe these people under his command are fighting for Islam? He knows he will never be able to rule and enslave the people of shabelle so he decides to joint the only place were he will be welcomed and never see justice. All in the name of clan loyalties. http://www.ilaqosal.com/details.php?image_id=184

Somalia: A nation in ruins A year after Ethiopian soldiers ousted the Islamic Courts, chaos and bloodshed reigns on the streets of Mogadishu, the Somali capital [EPA] Al Jazeera's Mohammed Adow and Andrew Simmons travelled to different parts of Somalia to witness first-hand what is going on in the anarchic Horn of Africa nation. Moving through the chaotic capital of Mogadishu, one comes across a grisly scene: several artillery shells had just hit the capital's Bakaara market. Dismembered bodies, blood and severed limbs lie everywhere. And as is often the case, all the victims are civilians. Such scenes are not uncommon in this theatre of war, but they are rarely captured on camera. Those lucky to escape the attack run for dear life. But in this city, there is nowhere to hide. This is not a conventional war and no one is spared the violence. Here good Samaritans struggle to save the injured. They bundle them on to vehicles and hand-carts. They will join many others lying in the city's few and congested hospitals. "I was injured by a remote-controlled landmine targeting Ethiopian troops," says Hussein Issack, a recent victim of the violence. "A friend I was with died on the spot. I am really saddened by these attacks. Those targeted usually escape and it's [us civilians] who get hurt." Civilians 'targeted' Many Islamic Courts' Union fighters are still licking their wounds from the fighting with Ethiopian forces, but they remain bold enough to venture out into the streets. They have also become increasingly confident in recent months. Along with Ethiopian forces, they are also accused of targeting civilians, a charge they strongly deny. "We are the people and the people are us. We are not any different," one Islamic Courts' fighter told Al Jazeera. "We are victims of our enemies who attacked our land after Somalis enjoyed six months of peace and tranquility under the Islamic Courts. "They are the enemies of Allah, Muslims and the Somali people." 'Nowhere to run' Later, while travelling in to Mogadishu, less than 10km from the city, we can hear the sound of bombardments and shelling. It is also the road to the city where the displaced have set up camps. Hussein is severely disabled, a widower and has seven children to feed On either side, hundreds of thousands of people live in terrible conditions. They want to return home but cannot while the violence continues. Tens of thousands others also remain trapped in the city. Marooned by the fighting, they have no escape route. Physically disabled Hussein Osman Gessey is one of them. His wife died a few weeks ago, leaving him to care for his seven children, including a three-month-old baby. "I have nowhere to run to. I have nothing to transport them and no place to take my children," he said. "Should I worry about what they eat or where they will get safety? Most of my neighbours have fled. I now rely on what I am brought by kind friends who are aware of my problems." Hussein's misfortunes are shared by many Somalis today. Every tale you hear is more heart-rending than the other. Hospital overwhelmed Mogadishu's desperate situation is echoed in other parts of the country. In Galguduud, a town several hundred kilometres north of the capital, aid workers from Medicins Sans Frontieres Belgium struggle to treat those in need. The organisation's staff have strict procedures: they have security guards wherever they go, whether in the drive to work from the compound in which they live or to the hospital where they work. They are not allowed to venture anywhere else. The morning meetings have a common theme - where to put more admissions and what to do with those waiting to be assessed. The hospital's outpatients department is always absolutely inundated. The health needs in this conflict are unlike so many others, because there is no basic infrastructure and the children are the most in need. In one ward alone there have been 30 admissions in the past few days and Dr Carolina Batista Santos, the doctor in charge, rarely gets a break. Small successes In this hospital, we attract people from faraway places, sometimes hundreds of kilometres away. We see a lot of diseases that are preventable from immunisation that is not going on. Not only that, but many children arrive here too late because their parents often do not realise the importance of taking them to hospital. Many Somali children are sick with easily preventable diseases And in a country with no health service, traditional healing is followed by many parents. One three-year-old boy has a potentially fatal disease called kala azar. On his skin are welts from where a traditional healer burned him in a futile attempt at a cure. Left too late, all of his internal organs will fail. Nevertheless, with the hospital's care they are hopeful he will survive. It is not war that keeps the hospital full in Galguduud. There are domestic accidents, burns from spilled cooking oil, poor nutrition, neglected illnesses and ailments that come from poor sanitation and no running fresh water. Dr Santos is doing her best and she makes the most of her successes. But she knows that any gains are set against so many lives lost in a country with overwhelming needs. http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/B7E3E6D8-5C9A-4DBF-8C21-8D7347D2809C.htm

Somalia: A nation in ruins A year after Ethiopian soldiers ousted the Islamic Courts, chaos and bloodshed reigns on the streets of Mogadishu, the Somali capital [EPA] Al Jazeera's Mohammed Adow and Andrew Simmons travelled to different parts of Somalia to witness first-hand what is going on in the anarchic Horn of Africa nation. Moving through the chaotic capital of Mogadishu, one comes across a grisly scene: several artillery shells had just hit the capital's Bakaara market. Dismembered bodies, blood and severed limbs lie everywhere. And as is often the case, all the victims are civilians. Such scenes are not uncommon in this theatre of war, but they are rarely captured on camera. Those lucky to escape the attack run for dear life. But in this city, there is nowhere to hide. This is not a conventional war and no one is spared the violence. Here good Samaritans struggle to save the injured. They bundle them on to vehicles and hand-carts. They will join many others lying in the city's few and congested hospitals. "I was injured by a remote-controlled landmine targeting Ethiopian troops," says Hussein Issack, a recent victim of the violence. "A friend I was with died on the spot. I am really saddened by these attacks. Those targeted usually escape and it's [us civilians] who get hurt." Civilians 'targeted' Many Islamic Courts' Union fighters are still licking their wounds from the fighting with Ethiopian forces, but they remain bold enough to venture out into the streets. They have also become increasingly confident in recent months. Along with Ethiopian forces, they are also accused of targeting civilians, a charge they strongly deny. "We are the people and the people are us. We are not any different," one Islamic Courts' fighter told Al Jazeera. "We are victims of our enemies who attacked our land after Somalis enjoyed six months of peace and tranquility under the Islamic Courts. "They are the enemies of Allah, Muslims and the Somali people." 'Nowhere to run' Later, while travelling in to Mogadishu, less than 10km from the city, we can hear the sound of bombardments and shelling. It is also the road to the city where the displaced have set up camps. Hussein is severely disabled, a widower and has seven children to feed On either side, hundreds of thousands of people live in terrible conditions. They want to return home but cannot while the violence continues. Tens of thousands others also remain trapped in the city. Marooned by the fighting, they have no escape route. Physically disabled Hussein Osman Gessey is one of them. His wife died a few weeks ago, leaving him to care for his seven children, including a three-month-old baby. "I have nowhere to run to. I have nothing to transport them and no place to take my children," he said. "Should I worry about what they eat or where they will get safety? Most of my neighbours have fled. I now rely on what I am brought by kind friends who are aware of my problems." Hussein's misfortunes are shared by many Somalis today. Every tale you hear is more heart-rending than the other. Hospital overwhelmed Mogadishu's desperate situation is echoed in other parts of the country. In Galguduud, a town several hundred kilometres north of the capital, aid workers from Medicins Sans Frontieres Belgium struggle to treat those in need. The organisation's staff have strict procedures: they have security guards wherever they go, whether in the drive to work from the compound in which they live or to the hospital where they work. They are not allowed to venture anywhere else. The morning meetings have a common theme - where to put more admissions and what to do with those waiting to be assessed. The hospital's outpatients department is always absolutely inundated. The health needs in this conflict are unlike so many others, because there is no basic infrastructure and the children are the most in need. In one ward alone there have been 30 admissions in the past few days and Dr Carolina Batista Santos, the doctor in charge, rarely gets a break. Small successes In this hospital, we attract people from faraway places, sometimes hundreds of kilometres away. We see a lot of diseases that are preventable from immunisation that is not going on. Not only that, but many children arrive here too late because their parents often do not realise the importance of taking them to hospital. Many Somali children are sick with easily preventable diseases And in a country with no health service, traditional healing is followed by many parents. One three-year-old boy has a potentially fatal disease called kala azar. On his skin are welts from where a traditional healer burned him in a futile attempt at a cure. Left too late, all of his internal organs will fail. Nevertheless, with the hospital's care they are hopeful he will survive. It is not war that keeps the hospital full in Galguduud. There are domestic accidents, burns from spilled cooking oil, poor nutrition, neglected illnesses and ailments that come from poor sanitation and no running fresh water. Dr Santos is doing her best and she makes the most of her successes. But she knows that any gains are set against so many lives lost in a country with overwhelming needs. http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/B7E3E6D8-5C9A-4DBF-8C21-8D7347D2809C.htm

Somalia: A nation in ruins A year after Ethiopian soldiers ousted the Islamic Courts, chaos and bloodshed reigns on the streets of Mogadishu, the Somali capital [EPA] Al Jazeera's Mohammed Adow and Andrew Simmons travelled to different parts of Somalia to witness first-hand what is going on in the anarchic Horn of Africa nation. Moving through the chaotic capital of Mogadishu, one comes across a grisly scene: several artillery shells had just hit the capital's Bakaara market. Dismembered bodies, blood and severed limbs lie everywhere. And as is often the case, all the victims are civilians. Such scenes are not uncommon in this theatre of war, but they are rarely captured on camera. Those lucky to escape the attack run for dear life. But in this city, there is nowhere to hide. This is not a conventional war and no one is spared the violence. Here good Samaritans struggle to save the injured. They bundle them on to vehicles and hand-carts. They will join many others lying in the city's few and congested hospitals. "I was injured by a remote-controlled landmine targeting Ethiopian troops," says Hussein Issack, a recent victim of the violence. "A friend I was with died on the spot. I am really saddened by these attacks. Those targeted usually escape and it's [us civilians] who get hurt." Civilians 'targeted' Many Islamic Courts' Union fighters are still licking their wounds from the fighting with Ethiopian forces, but they remain bold enough to venture out into the streets. They have also become increasingly confident in recent months. Along with Ethiopian forces, they are also accused of targeting civilians, a charge they strongly deny. "We are the people and the people are us. We are not any different," one Islamic Courts' fighter told Al Jazeera. "We are victims of our enemies who attacked our land after Somalis enjoyed six months of peace and tranquility under the Islamic Courts. "They are the enemies of Allah, Muslims and the Somali people." 'Nowhere to run' Later, while travelling in to Mogadishu, less than 10km from the city, we can hear the sound of bombardments and shelling. It is also the road to the city where the displaced have set up camps. Hussein is severely disabled, a widower and has seven children to feed On either side, hundreds of thousands of people live in terrible conditions. They want to return home but cannot while the violence continues. Tens of thousands others also remain trapped in the city. Marooned by the fighting, they have no escape route. Physically disabled Hussein Osman Gessey is one of them. His wife died a few weeks ago, leaving him to care for his seven children, including a three-month-old baby. "I have nowhere to run to. I have nothing to transport them and no place to take my children," he said. "Should I worry about what they eat or where they will get safety? Most of my neighbours have fled. I now rely on what I am brought by kind friends who are aware of my problems." Hussein's misfortunes are shared by many Somalis today. Every tale you hear is more heart-rending than the other. Hospital overwhelmed Mogadishu's desperate situation is echoed in other parts of the country. In Galguduud, a town several hundred kilometres north of the capital, aid workers from Medicins Sans Frontieres Belgium struggle to treat those in need. The organisation's staff have strict procedures: they have security guards wherever they go, whether in the drive to work from the compound in which they live or to the hospital where they work. They are not allowed to venture anywhere else. The morning meetings have a common theme - where to put more admissions and what to do with those waiting to be assessed. The hospital's outpatients department is always absolutely inundated. The health needs in this conflict are unlike so many others, because there is no basic infrastructure and the children are the most in need. In one ward alone there have been 30 admissions in the past few days and Dr Carolina Batista Santos, the doctor in charge, rarely gets a break. Small successes In this hospital, we attract people from faraway places, sometimes hundreds of kilometres away. We see a lot of diseases that are preventable from immunisation that is not going on. Not only that, but many children arrive here too late because their parents often do not realise the importance of taking them to hospital. Many Somali children are sick with easily preventable diseases And in a country with no health service, traditional healing is followed by many parents. One three-year-old boy has a potentially fatal disease called kala azar. On his skin are welts from where a traditional healer burned him in a futile attempt at a cure. Left too late, all of his internal organs will fail. Nevertheless, with the hospital's care they are hopeful he will survive. It is not war that keeps the hospital full in Galguduud. There are domestic accidents, burns from spilled cooking oil, poor nutrition, neglected illnesses and ailments that come from poor sanitation and no running fresh water. Dr Santos is doing her best and she makes the most of her successes. But she knows that any gains are set against so many lives lost in a country with overwhelming needs. http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/B7E3E6D8-5C9A-4DBF-8C21-8D7347D2809C.htm

they just might be fighting on pure guts and adrenaline. Or they might be getting from the same source as everybody else. Except somalis anybody else would ask and investigate where are the weapons coming from their only supposedly ally is Eritrea so how is Eritrea bypassing the Americans and the Ethiopians? Are they all working together? Are they playing the same game Russia and America did play on the 6day war with the Arabs. Are Ethiopia and Eritrea doing the same thing with the blessings of America? who is benefitting the most in this conflict and why? You see guts and adrenaline don't provide bullets and bombs etc.

Why not comparing to Siyad Barre wannabes (leader of TFG and leader of ICU) he is quite a hero. For instance Siyad Barre build roads, schools, hospitals and started a nation wide literacy program and the wannabes what they do DESTROY the whole system. Siyad Barre killed you only if you ever dared questioning his way of governing. His wannabes kill you regardless. Comparing to them he definately looks like an angel

DAMN IT PEOPLE. What is wrong with us? The same that was wrong with as for almost two decades. What is this suddenly all somalis can remember only what is happening this last year as the rest never existed :confused: Wake up boys Ethiopians are here because we were and still are too busy fighting each other. Yes Ethiopians are raping and destroying our country but we raped and destroyed our country for so many years that they will ever be able to do. So get out of these selected amnesia and deal with the real problems.

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